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Decebal
01-30-2009, 08:22 AM
The fight will take place in Montreal on the 4th of April. What are your thoughts?
Faetter_BR
01-30-2009, 05:38 PM
Fine example of how GBP takes care of their medium fighters - Andrade should have had a rematch strait away!

That said I think Andrade is too much for Tsypko - Late TKO for Andrade or pointwin - 2-3 points up.
heehoo
01-30-2009, 06:05 PM
The fight will take place in Montreal on the 4th of April. What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are Andrade and Lucian Bute should rematch.
Odo
01-31-2009, 03:26 PM
I will sail my boat against all flags and odds:Tsypko by point decision.
The capable Ukranian will be able to outbox his very one-dimensional foe.
Unlike Stieglitz Typsko knows how to cope with this kind of opponent+he has already fought some very good names.
Tsypko is as cool as cucumber who can hold the forth when being under heavy fire.Andrade will come up against stiff resistance and hardly be able to connect with some telling punches.At the end of round 7-8 he will be totally frustrated.At that point of time Tsypko will easily outpoint his foe winning a relatively wide point decision.
Besides Tsypko has a good chin.He also has more pop in his fists than Stieglitz who didnt look that bad against Andrade in the first 4-5 rounds.
Tsypko by point decision.
catasyou
02-01-2009, 04:20 PM
Andrade UD.Maybe late KO.On the other hand I haven't seen Tsypko fight in a while.
Jan(DK)
02-01-2009, 07:16 PM
The fight will take place in Montreal on the 4th of April. What are your thoughts?

Who is the ref?
catasyou
02-01-2009, 08:23 PM
Who is the ref?Does it matter?
TommyV
02-02-2009, 08:50 AM
All you need to know is Tsypko lost to a post-Calzaghe Lacy.

Therefore Andrade takes this fight.
catasyou
02-02-2009, 09:56 AM
All you need to know is Tsypko lost to a post-Calzaghe Lacy.

Therefore Andrade takes this fight.He didn't really lose.
TommyV
02-02-2009, 12:20 PM
He didn't really lose.

Haven't seen the fight, saw it was a majority but just took it officially.

What was your scorecard?
Decebal
02-14-2009, 12:37 PM
I noticed the date for this fight is yet to be agreed.
Claus Holmen
02-16-2009, 06:42 PM
Iīm going for Andrade on TKO 8. And I hope heīll fight Bute again - and win. And then letīs get Kessler vs. Andrade 2 !!!
catasyou
02-16-2009, 07:04 PM
Haven't seen the fight, saw it was a majority but just took it officially.

What was your scorecard?
I don't remmeber exactly but I had Tsypko winning.
Odo
02-18-2009, 07:07 AM
I don't remmeber exactly but I had Tsypko winning.

I had him ahead with two rounds.Tsypko would have won that fight outside the USA.Typical home town decision!
Ivo
02-18-2009, 08:26 AM
I had Tsypko winning the second Lacy fight as well. However, they say it was because Lacy fought injured for most of the fight.

In regard of the Andrade fight, I think that Tsypko could win it via a decision even though it would be hard on foreign soil. I am not that sold on Andrade. Yes he had 2-3 solid rounds against Bute but was completely outboxed by Mikkel Kessler. It was absolutely onesided. Besides, he relies too much on his chin and this is never a good sign. It takes its toll sooner or later. I will check his fights with Mack and Stieglitz for a better perspective on his abilities.
Odo
03-04-2009, 12:25 PM
I had Tsypko winning the second Lacy fight as well. However, they say it was because Lacy fought injured for most of the fight.

In regard of the Andrade fight, I think that Tsypko could win it via a decision even though it would be hard on foreign soil. I am not that sold on Andrade. Yes he had 2-3 solid rounds against Bute but was completely outboxed by Mikkel Kessler. It was absolutely onesided. Besides, he relies too much on his chin and this is never a good sign. It takes its toll sooner or later. I will check his fights with Mack and Stieglitz for a better perspective on his abilities.

He didnt look that convincing against STieglitz either,Ivo.

Stieglitz for sure is not elite fighter and tailor made for the slow American based Mexican.Nevertheless,Andrade had some problems with him.
Tsypko's style may cause big problems for the slow and predictable Andrade.Whats more Tsypko has a good beard.He can take some good punches.Furthermore, Tsyko has far more pop in his fists than Stieglitz.
Dont get me wrong though! Andrade is not the underdog in their upcomming fight.He is a hard hitting and experienced vet and surely on a par with Tsypko.
However,I cant quite put my finger on it,but Tsypko's got a flair for figuring out a one-dimensional opponent like Andrade and making him pay dearly for trying to get through with a decisve shot.Andrade wont be able to nip Tsypko's opposition in the bud so that he will have to go 12 long rounds with him which will turn out to be advantegeous for Tsyko as he wont take Andrade's attacks in his stride and will keep his composure slowly taking command of their encounter soundly outboxing his slower foe Andrade.
As soon as Tsyko has find out how to deal with Andrade he will punish him relentlessly round after round.Cant really see Andrade win a point victory over the capable Ukranian counterboxer.On top of that all I very much doubt that Tsypko will be knocked out.Well,Andrade has a puncher's chance,but Tsypko is a cagey and experienced fighter who knows the ropes
Decebal
03-22-2009, 02:25 PM
Any other views?
Decebal
03-23-2009, 04:00 PM
It is hard not too root for a guy like Andrade, going from being a manager at a fast food resturaunt(sp). Then a world title threat, coupled with being one of the toughest guys in the sport. However: I feel that Tsypko just may win a decision in this one.

...why?:think
Brickhaus
03-23-2009, 04:31 PM
...why?:think

Because Andrade gets outboxed by just about any decent boxer he faces? It's really just a question of whether Tsypko can handle the pressure, and work at a high enough rate to win rounds. I don't think he can and thus am picking Andrade to win, but I suspect Tsypko will win the early rounds.
Decebal
03-23-2009, 04:33 PM
Because Andrade gets outboxed by just about any decent boxer he faces? It's really just a question of whether Tsypko can handle the pressure, and work at a high enough rate to win rounds. I don't think he can and thus am picking Andrade to win, but I suspect Tsypko will win the early rounds.

Sure, anyone can outbox Andrade...but unless you do it for 12 full rounds...we saw what almost happened to Bute...

...this Tsypko fellow needs power, stamina, footwork and an inside game, as well as a hell of a game-plan, well implemented to beat Andrade. Hope he has a powerjab too.
Brickhaus
03-23-2009, 08:38 PM
Sure, anyone can outbox Andrade...but unless you do it for 12 full rounds...we saw what almost happened to Bute...

...this Tsypko fellow needs power, stamina, footwork and an inside game, as well as a hell of a game-plan, well implemented to beat Andrade. Hope he has a powerjab too.

The last thing you want when fighting Andrade is an inside game. If you have a good inside game, it might lead you to try going toe to toe. Popping Andrade with jabs and occasional combos off the back foot is tried and true, if you can sustain it for 12 rounds.
Decebal
03-24-2009, 08:56 AM
The last thing you want when fighting Andrade is an inside game. If you have a good inside game, it might lead you to try going toe to toe. Popping Andrade with jabs and occasional combos off the back foot is tried and true, if you can sustain it for 12 rounds.

Well, I think it's fair to say that it's a bad idea brawling with Andrade on the inside, but unless you do have at least a bit of an inside game, your movement, stamina, power, distance, timing, etc. have to be pretty good to keep the guy off you for 12 rounds, fighting on the outside. Just have a look at the problems Kessler had in the last rounds...and Kessler's a borderline elite fighter who wasn't at a disadvantage stylistically against Andrade...
Ivo
03-30-2009, 09:11 AM
I do not remember Kessler having any problems with Andrade in the later rounds. As far as I remember Kessler went for a KO in the last round. I will rewatch the final round.
Decebal
03-30-2009, 09:14 AM
I do not remember Kessler having any problems with Andrade in the later rounds. As far as I remember Kessler went for a KO in the last round. I will rewatch the final round.

No...he fought his heart out to keep Andrade off him; obviously, he was very successful...but it wasn't easy.
THN
03-30-2009, 12:26 PM
Well, I think it's fair to say that it's a bad idea brawling with Andrade on the inside, but unless you do have at least a bit of an inside game, your movement, stamina, power, distance, timing, etc. have to be pretty good to keep the guy off you for 12 rounds, fighting on the outside. Just have a look at the problems Kessler had in the last rounds...and Kessler's a borderline elite fighter who wasn't at a disadvantage stylistically against Andrade...
Kessler had no problem with Andrade in the last rounds, he actually went for the Ko. in round 12. You're mixing it up with the Bute fight.:yep:good
Decebal
03-30-2009, 12:40 PM
Kessler had no problem with Andrade in the last rounds, he actually went for the Ko. in round 12. You're mixing it up with the Bute fight.:yep:good

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He did go for the KO, you and Ivo are right...(but he also held a bit at times).

;):good
Decebal
04-09-2009, 12:30 PM
I was surprised that Tsypko was as tough as that. He also fought an intelligent, disciplined fight. Andrade's smaller gloves made him look more like a puncher than he really is. If both him and Bute will use those gloves in their rematch, Bute will gain more from it, in my view. Given Andrade's elbow problems and given that he can be hurt to the body, Bute should aim to target his body and elbows, even at the cost of getting roughed up somewhat on the inside. However, he shouldn't throw as many arm-punch combinations. They were ineffective and only led to him using up too much energy. More powershots, more body/elbow shots and as much movement as possible, to create angles and stay out of Andrade's grasp. If Bute does this, he should be seen as the slight favourite, notwithstanding an even better performance from Andrade.