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TBooze
06-22-2007, 04:27 PM
Think I posted this before, but as everything has gone here is my 'best of the 90's'
100 Iran Barkley
99 Vassily Jirov
98 Jorge Castro
97 Joe Calzaghe
96 Meldrick Taylor
95 Vinny Pazienza
94 Simon Brown
93 Gianfranco Rosi
92 Frankie Liles
91 William Joppy
90 Ray Mercer
89 Dingaan Thobela
88 Crisanto Espana
87 Eloy Rojas
86 Robert Quiroga
85 Nana Yaw Konadu
84 Juan Martin Coggi
83 Orlin Norris
82 Ronald Wright
81 Kennedy McKinney
80 Tim Austin
79 Julio Cesar Vazquez
78 Steve Collins
77 Al Cole
76 Lorenzo Barber
75 James Douglas
74 James McGirt
73 Miguel Angel Gonzales
72 Tony Lopez
71 Sharmba Mitchell
70 Lonnie Bradley
69 Antonio Esparragoza
68 Jake Matlala
67 Mike Tyson
66 Fernando Vargas
65 Tommy Hearns
64 Wilfred Vazquez
63 Orzubek Nazarov
62 Dave McAuley
61 Arturo Gatti
60 Harry Simon
59 Joichiro Tatsuyuhi
58 Michael Moorer
57 Julian Jackson
56 Kevin Kelley
55 Sung Il Moon
54 John John Molina
53 Manuel Medina
52 Maurice Blocker
51 Daniel Zaragoza
50 John David Jackson
49 Reggie Johnson
48 Myung Woo Yuh
47 Zack Padilla
46 Jeff Fenech
45 George Foreman
44 Henry Maske
43 Genaro Hernandez
42 Ike Quartey
41 Johnny Tapia
40 Vuyani Bungu
39 Vitali Klitschko
38 Freddie Pendleton
37 Mike McCallum
36 Michael Carbajal
35 Mark Johnson
34 Humberto Gonzales
33 Frankie Randall
32 Steve Johnston
31 Junior Jones
30 Yuri Arbachakov
29 Erik Morales
28 Tom Johnson
27 Chris Eubank
26 Gerald McClellan
25 Virgil Hill
24 Nigel Benn
23 Saman Sorjaturong
22 Kostya Tszyu
21 Azumah Nelson
20 Floyd Mayweather Jr
19 Marco Antonio Barrera
18 Bernard Hopkins
17 Shane Mosley
16 Riddick Bowe
15 Brian Mitchell
14 Dariusz Michalczewski
13 Kaosai Galaxy
12 Orlando Canizales
11 Lennox Lewis
10 Julio Cesar Chavez
9 James Toney
8 Felix Trinidad
7 Naseem Hamed
6 Terry Norris
5 Pernell Whitaker
4 Evander Holyfield
3 Ricardo Lopez
2 Roy Jones Jr
1 Oscar de la Hoya
George W Hedge
06-22-2007, 06:00 PM
Delahoya was a good fighter & kind of still is but I can never think of him as no1, he just seemed to lack something that enables great fighters to become legendery fighters.
I would say there are at least 3 boxers who were better in the 90s....
Roy Jones, who, like oscar enjoyed all of his prime yrs in this decade & JcChavez & Whitaker who were still magnificent in the 90s but probably had their absolute peak performances in the late 80s, nonetheless still were both too good for oscar on a p4p level & in the early 90s imo.
The Whitaker who fought Chavez at 147 lbs would have beaten oscar at that weight (oscar`s best weight imo) & Pernell`s best weight was 135... that tells you about my opinion of oscar being at no1.
:good
George W Hedge
06-22-2007, 06:04 PM
I almost forgot......
NO WAY should morales be 10 places behind mab, he should be 3 or 4 places in front imo.... erik only started losing (like all great boxers) when he started to erode, barrera got stopped twice while he still had plenty left in the tank vs guys defeated by morales.
Ps. there was nothing in those wars between the 2 except the 2nd fight were erik won hands down... just my opinion.
:good
My dinner with Conteh
06-22-2007, 06:18 PM
No way is De La Hoya #1. :huh
TBooze
06-22-2007, 06:37 PM
No way is De La Hoya #1. :huh
IMO he was the standout Icon of the 90s...
He was perhaps the last 'American superstar boxer' to be a worldwide name amongst general sports fans. His only rival to the crown (Jones) suffers though his inability to put the names of his resume like de la Hoya did.
On top of all this, from a distance it seemed de la Hoya, along with Chavez, started the 'mainstream' Latino revolution in boxing in the USA.
My dinner with Conteh
06-22-2007, 06:40 PM
IMO he was the standout Icon of the 90s...
He was perhaps the last 'American superstar boxer' to be a worldwide name amongst general sports fans. His only rival to the crown (Jones) suffers though his inability to put the names of his resume like de la Hoya did.
On top of all this, from a distance it seemed de la Hoya, along with Chavez, started the 'mainstream' Latino revolution in boxing in the USA.
Icon? This is meant to be a poll based on ability isn't it? Not how many magazines he appeared on the cover of. Is Beckham the 'best' footballer of the 1990s too? There's only two contenders for me: Jones or Whitaker.
My dinner with Conteh
06-22-2007, 06:42 PM
And Tyson was the only real 'worldwide' icon from the decade anyway. Grab a photo of Oscar and ask the first 100 people you see who it is- I bet about only seven people get it right.
My dinner with Conteh
06-22-2007, 06:47 PM
I'm talking in UK of course. I can't see how a Brit can see someone with only 'moderate' fame over here as an 'icon', unless you've spent time in the States. It's like saying Garth Brooks is an icon.
jimmie
06-22-2007, 06:54 PM
I could see DLH at 1 because he dominated that decade only 1 of his 5 losses was in the 90s and he was robbed. Im not sure id stick Vargas in so high as he didnt do much in the 90s 85-100 could be ok.
bladerunner
06-22-2007, 06:59 PM
Galaxy is way to high his best work was in the 80´s.
and how can you put journeyman Pendleton at 38.
Probably are the 100 top fighters, but they're in a shit order...
rekcutnevets
06-22-2007, 10:09 PM
Pernell Whitaker was the best of the 90's.
Let's compare his career with Oscar's.
In the 90's, Whitaker continued cleaning out the lightweight division he had started washing in the 80's. He defeated Freddie Pendleton, who later went on to claim a world title. All time great, Azumah Nelson. Juan Nazario, Anthony Jones, Policarpo Diaz, and Jorge Paez.
Oscar picked up his first legitimate world title at lightweight against Rafael Ruelas. At lightweight, de la Hoya fought fighters who had mostly excelled at weights below the lightweight division. He defeated, amoung others, John John Molina, Genaro Hernandez, and Jesse James Leija.
Whitaker gets the nod in their lightweight competition.
Oscar fought Julio Cesar Chavez, and Miguel Angel Gonzalez. Whitaker defeated Rafael Pineda for his world title.
Advantage Oscar.
Whitaker fought Buddy McGirt to win the welterweight title. McGirt was considered to be the best 4th or 5th pound for pound at the time. He then defended againt Chavez, who was considered the best pound for pound. He was robbed of victory against Chavez, but gained recognition as boxing's best afterwards. Defeated #1 contender, Santos Cordona. Gave McGirt a rematch, because some questioned McGirt's performance with a shoulder injury. Defended against #1 contender Gary Jacobs. Took a gimme fight againt Jake Rodriguez. Won a disputed decison over Wilfredo Rivera, and gave him an immediate rematch. Fought undefeated Diosbelys Hurtado. Then lost a disputed decision to de la Hoya. When he couldn't get a deserved rematch with Oscar, he fought a title eliminator against WBA top contender Andrei Pestriaev. He then tested positive for Cocain, and his title shot against Quartey never materialized.
Oscar de la Hoya won his title against Whitaker. Instead of given the man who gave him a shot a chance to regain his title, he fought the following. David Kamau, who earned his shot by losing to Chavez at 140. Hector Camacho, such a great welterweight at the time:?. Wilfredo Rivera, who had already lost to Whitaker. Patrick Charpentier, his #1 contender. Julio Cesar Chavez, a little too late. Then Ike Quartey. After winning a disputed decision against Ike, Oscar was asked about a rematch. His response, " You think it was a good fight, Larry? I don't think it was a good fight Larry." It was the best fight of of Oscar's career at that point. He defeated Oba Carr. He then got robbed against Trinidad.
I think Whitaker was the better welterweight champion.
Whitaker fought and won the junior middleweight title from Julio Cesar Vasquez. Oscar did not enter this division in the 90's. Advantage Whitaker.
Whitaker, best of the 90's.
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