How do you beat Machida?

[Polymath]

:huh

[Kairos]

Get inside and test his chin.

[Polymath]

Thiago was trying, and its not as though hes a scrub with no striking ability. WHen he clinched up with Tito and threw him I thought shit...this guys going to be hard to beat. His striking is different and fking...good. I think he'll destroy the likes of Evans if he ever gets a chance.

[RocK24]

I hated this guys style until tonight. If he continues to step up and bang and be more aggresive he will draw more attention. I thought he did very well tonight....props!

[ozziebattler]

Thiago was trying, and its not as though hes a scrub with no striking ability. WHen he clinched up with Tito and threw him I thought shit...this guys going to be hard to beat. His striking is different and fking...good. I think he'll destroy the likes of Evans if he ever gets a chance.


I like Machida..Seems to have some personality to..

I feel he would clearly defeat Evans which wouldnt be a bad thing..He doesnt do much for me as a fighter and im sick of hearing his wife screaming like she is taking a 12inch up the rectum.

[Polymath]

I hated this guys style until tonight.

I love his style.

Cung Le fans should get on the Machida express :yep

[Kestrel]

Anderson Silva better not go anywhere near Machida. I can see Machida KOing Silva the way Silva comes forward. Machida is hard to catch and can bang when he needs to. I can't believe he has not gotten a title shot yet, does he have to clean out the division before Dana gives him a shot?

[Dynamite Kid]

:huh

Very tough to say, noone can even get close enough to land a descent shot. When you move towards him he's moving away then when he hits you he hurts you. His movement is also tough to figure out cause he's really good at switching directions. It's also tough to test his ground game because he defends so well. He's complete in every area. He made my guy look like total sh** tonight. I think Machida beats Rashad also.

[Polymath]

Anderson Silva better not go anywhere near Machida. I can see Machida KOing Silva the way Silva comes forward. Machida is hard to catch and can bang when he needs to. I can't believe he has not gotten a title shot yet, does he have to clean out the division before Dana gives him a shot?

For sure. He's in a strong division but nobody has ever beaten a better string of fighters and not even fought for a title.

[Koa]

Way to beat Machida is to force him to fight aggressive and fight off the back foot, being wary of a shoot and looking to catch him jumping in.

[bulakenyo]

"Lyoto.. The Dragonnn.. Machiiiidaaa!!"

[bulakenyo]

The man's a sniper.

[Polymath]

Way to beat Machida is to force him to fight aggressive and fight off the back foot, being wary of a shoot and looking to catch him jumping in.

Easier said than done. These guys hes beating up dont go in there planning to chase him around and get countered to death like they do. The way he controls distance, comes into striking range, feints and engages then retreats and counters is amazing to watch.

[Dynamite Kid]

Anderson Silva better not go anywhere near Machida. I can see Machida KOing Silva the way Silva comes forward. Machida is hard to catch and can bang when he needs to. I can't believe he has not gotten a title shot yet, does he have to clean out the division before Dana gives him a shot?

Anderson said they would never fight because they are friends and is rooting for Machida to win the title. Secondly how can you see Machida koing Silva the way Silva comes foward? Anderson Silva is mainly a counter fighter and has never been knocked out, Wanderlei Silva comes foward he could get KO'D by Machida. So you mean Wanderlei. And I heard tonights fight was for the #1 contender spot. Machida is gonna beat Evans.

[AJAX]

Anderson Silva better not go anywhere near Machida. I can see Machida KOing Silva the way Silva comes forward. Machida is hard to catch and can bang when he needs to. I can't believe he has not gotten a title shot yet, does he have to clean out the division before Dana gives him a shot?

They are actually good friends and a big reason why Anderson hasn't made noise at 205 is because of his friend Machida.Too bad Most want to see what Anderson can do at 205

[bulakenyo]

Serious question here.

Why are there lots of people who love to watch defensive minded, elusive and smooth boxers like Whitaker and Mayweather, but many people hate Machida's fighting style?

I enjoy watching him patiently break down his opponent, like someone precisely chipping away a huge rock using a chisel and a hammer, instead of swinging away and using a sledge hammer.

[Kestrel]

Way to beat Machida is to force him to fight aggressive and fight off the back foot, being wary of a shoot and looking to catch him jumping in.

Machida knows everyone wants to force him to fight their game, but they can't, he been breaking them down everytime, he just master at this chess match. It's like fighters are used to fighting a certain way but no one has face a type of fighter like Machida, so when they get in the ring they seem umcomfortable when he shoots in out of no where. Machida probably learn how to read a fighter's movements to judge the perfect moment to pop in. And Machida is pretty fast so by the time the opponent tries to catch him he is already wraps around them and going a different direction or he toss them to the ground.

[Polymath]

Serious question here.

Why are there lots of people who love to watch defensive minded, elusive and smooth boxers like Whitaker and Mayweather, but many people hate Machida's fighting style?

I enjoy watching him patiently break down his opponent, like someone precisely chipping away a huge rock using a chisel and a hammer, instead of swinging away and using a sledge hammer.

:good

[Sweet Pea]

I'd take Machida over anyone at 205.

[Tuffnutz]

:huh
Ask Anderson. ;)

[Tuffnutz]

Anderson Silva better not go anywhere near Machida. I can see Machida KOing Silva the way Silva comes forward. Machida is hard to catch and can bang when he needs to. I can't believe he has not gotten a title shot yet, does he have to clean out the division before Dana gives him a shot?

Anderson can beat Machida.

There is also no way that Machida could crack Anderson's iron chin.

[Kestrel]

They are actually good friends and a big reason why Anderson hasn't made noise at 205 is because of his friend Machida.Too bad Most want to see what Anderson can do at 205

I give respect to their friendship. I would not fight a friend either no matter what's on the line.

[Kestrel]

Anderson can beat Machida.

There is also no way that Machida could crack Anderson's iron chin.

Now that I know they are friends, if they ever fight, Machida won't go for the KO but will just decision him. Anderson gets hit, Machida doesn't and just outpoints him easily.

[bulakenyo]

Anderson and Machida are my top 2 favorite UFC fighters.

I hope they never fight each other.

Just dominate their respective divisions.

[Tuffnutz]

How can any MMA fan not wnat to see them fight each other, and for Anderson to get out of the pointless 185lb division? :huh:

[bulakenyo]

How can any MMA fan not wnat to see them fight each other, and for Anderson to get out of the pointless 185lb division? :huh:

I dunno.

I also don't like it when 2 of my favorite boxers face each other.

It's OK if I just admire or respect the other fighter, but it doesnt feel good to see 2 of your actual favorite fighters bashing each other's faces in.

You don't know who to root for.

Maybe I'll change my mind, later in their careers.

[sugarngold]

Way to beat Machida is to force him to fight aggressive and fight off the back foot, being wary of a shoot and looking to catch him jumping in.

I was thinking something similar. You have to counterpunch Machida. Make it a boring fight where he has to be aggressive. Wait for Lyoto to make a mistake or overextend and catch him coming in.

Sad to say - but Rashad Evans seems the best suited to do exactly that.

[Tuffnutz]

I just want WAR! :d

[Polymath]

I was thinking something similar. You have to counterpunch Machida. Make it a boring fight where he has to be aggressive. Wait for Lyoto to make a mistake or overextend and catch him coming in.


That's like trying to outwrestle Mark Kerr or trade kicks with Schilt.

[Polymath]

I dunno.

I also don't like it when 2 of my favorite boxers face each other.

It's OK if I just admire or respect the other fighter, but it doesnt feel good to see 2 of your actual favorite fighters bashing each other's faces in.

You don't know who to root for.

Maybe I'll change my mind, later in their careers.

I know what you mean.

Cotto and Margo are two of my favorites, that was hard to watch :-(

[sugarngold]

That's like trying to outwrestle Mark Kerr or trade kicks with Schilt.

No. If you do the opposite and attack him - you play into Lyoto's hands.

[Fedor Em]

You're BJ Penn with a much larger frame. Good luck finding that

[Koa]

Machida knows everyone wants to force him to fight their game, but they can't, he been breaking them down everytime, he just master at this chess match. It's like fighters are used to fighting a certain way but no one has face a type of fighter like Machida, so when they get in the ring they seem umcomfortable when he shoots in out of no where. Machida probably learn how to read a fighter's movements to judge the perfect moment to pop in. And Machida is pretty fast so by the time the opponent tries to catch him he is already wraps around them and going a different direction or he toss them to the ground.

He controls the distance he retreats and constantly moves. However, if you hold your ground, or even retreat yourself, you force him to take an offensive style. Its something that we don't know about as far as his ability to fight out of.

There are some things that are predictable in his style.. One is that if you chase him around, he circles left (to his right). If he gains enough of an oblique angle, he will throw left round house kicks to whatever opening seems to be most open, head or body.

He seems to like to go for the body because it takes away the legs, which makes his movement that much more effective.

He is a southpaw, so instead of trying to throw overhand rights, it is best to work with the jab and left hook as an orthodox fighter, in that he heavily relies on his own left cross.

He is very fast on the ground and recovers very quickly to his feet. Trick is to allow him to make the mistakes.. It is hard to feint when you are the one retreating, and dealing with feints yourself.. Not sure how it would work, just saying, using his own game against him is the best place to base a game plan from.

[Kestrel]

He controls the distance he retreats and constantly moves. However, if you hold your ground, or even retreat yourself, you force him to take an offensive style. Its something that we don't know about as far as his ability to fight out of.

There are some things that are predictable in his style.. One is that if you chase him around, he circles left (to his right). If he gains enough of an oblique angle, he will throw left round house kicks to whatever opening seems to be most open, head or body.

He seems to like to go for the body because it takes away the legs, which makes his movement that much more effective.

He is a southpaw, so instead of trying to throw overhand rights, it is best to work with the jab and left hook as an orthodox fighter, in that he heavily relies on his own left cross.

He is very fast on the ground and recovers very quickly to his feet. Trick is to allow him to make the mistakes.. It is hard to feint when you are the one retreating, and dealing with feints yourself.. Not sure how it would work, just saying, using his own game against him is the best place to base a game plan from.


For some reason I am picturing a fight where Machida starts circling away in one direction and the other fighter decides he will circle away in the opposite direction, the fights ends in a draw with no one making any contact. LOL

[OuterDrake]

Takeout out the body with rather kicks or body punches,working up to his chin.


Thiago landed a body shot at one point but his did not attempt it again.

[HyperBone]

He controls the distance he retreats and constantly moves. However, if you hold your ground, or even retreat yourself, you force him to take an offensive style. Its something that we don't know about as far as his ability to fight out of.

There are some things that are predictable in his style.. One is that if you chase him around, he circles left (to his right). If he gains enough of an oblique angle, he will throw left round house kicks to whatever opening seems to be most open, head or body.

He seems to like to go for the body because it takes away the legs, which makes his movement that much more effective.

He is a southpaw, so instead of trying to throw overhand rights, it is best to work with the jab and left hook as an orthodox fighter, in that he heavily relies on his own left cross.

He is very fast on the ground and recovers very quickly to his feet. Trick is to allow him to make the mistakes.. It is hard to feint when you are the one retreating, and dealing with feints yourself.. Not sure how it would work, just saying, using his own game against him is the best place to base a game plan from.

easier said than done though

[RocK24]

I love his style.

Cung Le fans should get on the Machida express :yep


His style was very boring up until tonight. It works for him but people want to see 2 guys go in there and bang. Machida is known for moving around backing up then cracking. Tonight he showed a different side and it was good. I think this guy could be untouchable for a long time. Look at his face I have never seen a mark on his face after a fight. I want to see him fight a top 5 205 pounder!

[Tyga]

Keep attacking. Don't get frustrated.

[MaliSlamusrex]

his stance is amazing, he more or less stands straight on so you can't really leg kick him, he is fast in and out, and keeps his distance always moving away from the strong hand. good takedowns

he could beat anyone

[The Phenom]

Anderson Silva should fight the winner of Jackson-Jardine and Lyoto Machida shoulkd fight Rashad Evans.

[LB3000]

Serious question here.

Why are there lots of people who love to watch defensive minded, elusive and smooth boxers like Whitaker and Mayweather, but many people hate Machida's fighting style?

I enjoy watching him patiently break down his opponent, like someone precisely chipping away a huge rock using a chisel and a hammer, instead of swinging away and using a sledge hammer. Well said. How can a guy get critisied when his style is clearly working for him? Thiago Silva's style made Machida look exiting, but he was a bit more aggressive. There was only a few seconds of the round remaining and Mach went in for some GNP and took Silva out. :yep

Here is an interesting article I read the other day about Machida. I posted it in a thread yesterday but some of you may have missed it.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Polymath]

No. If you do the opposite and attack him - you play into Lyoto's hands.

You don't seem to understand how much subtelty and nuance and technical skill is involved in fighting on the counter like Machida does; if youre going to say 'make him come forward' - fair enough, but how? He's been fighting like this for 20 years, you can't just turn up and decide to outdo him at his own game. You wouldn't say, the way to beat Mark Kerr is to outwrestle him, would you? It would work, but how do you do it if you're not a better wrestler than he is? In the same way you can't out counter strike Machida if he's a thousand times better at that particular style of fighting than you are.

[sugarngold]

You don't seem to understand how much subtelty and nuance and technical skill is involved in fighting on the counter like Machida does; if youre going to say 'make him come forward' - fair enough, but how? He's been fighting like this for 20 years, you can't just turn up and decide to outdo him at his own game. You wouldn't say, the way to beat Mark Kerr is to outwrestle him, would you? It would work, but how do you do it if you're not a better wrestler than he is? In the same way you can't out counter strike Machida if he's a thousand times better at that particular style of fighting than you are.

We're not talking about Mark Kerr or wrestling. Take him out of his gameplan which means to make him come forward. Period. He wants to counterstrike - which is his wheelhouse. Charging him would only play to his strengths. Make the fight boring where he has to commit and counter him.

Ummm. . . times infinity plus one - because we keep saying the same things to each other.

[chimba]

There are two names who are advancing MMA into a level of a refined sport called the Sweet Science. The names are Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida.

[Spunik]

Rashad Evans will show the way to defeat him

[Polymath]

Rashad Evans will show the way to defeat him

Tito > Rashad

[chimba]

Rashad Evans will show the way to defeat him


I love Rashad, believe me read my earlier posts. When he Koed Griffin we cheered in a bar full of Forrest fans.

Now in saying that, Ill be shocked if Rashad lands one punch on Lyoto.

The betting line would be, If Lyoto gets hit, you win $100 bucks, If he loses a round its $1,000

[sugarngold]

We're not talking about Mark Kerr or wrestling. Take him out of his gameplan which means to make him come forward. Period. He wants to counterstrike - which is his wheelhouse. Charging him would only play to his strengths. Make the fight boring where he has to commit and counter him.

Ummm. . . times infinity plus one - because we keep saying the same things to each other.

Perhaps the proper boxing analogy would be to compare the fight between Pernell Whitaker and Diosbelys Hurtado. Hurtado moved away from the counterpunching wizard Whitaker all night long - forcing the normally defensive minded Sweat Pea to take the initiative to press the attack. Whitaker - used to slick counterpunching - was awkward with his attack and almost entirely ineffective against the moving Cuban. In the eleventh round, Sweat Pea caught Hurtado on the ropes and unleashed a series of left handed ghetto whoppers to end the fight. Hurtado was frighteningly draped across the ropes. That final outcome notwithstanding - Hurtado had the right gameplan against Whitaker. He could very well have been on the verge of scoring a unanimous victory were it not for Whitaker's eleventh round KO.

Conversely, take the fighter arguably considered the greatest agressive fighter of the past twenty years - Julio Cesar Chavez - and look at his performance against Whitaker. Chavez charged Sweat Pea all night long and found himself outboxed, outmaneuvered and effectively rendered impotent by the counterpunching master Whitaker.

That's the way I see it anyhow. It's entirely possible that no one would be able to counter Machida in that manner - or outgrapple him. The guy is undefeated and I'm certainly interested to see where he goes from here. In theory, he could eventually clean out the division.

[TheSweetScience]

I think someone like Rampage has a shot of beating him. Thiago Silva tried to be aggressive and passive at the same time. He never really tried to just crowd him and shoot for atake down. IMO noone would beat them if they just follow him around trying to strike. Hes definitely going to go down as one of the all time greats

[chimba]

I think someone like Rampage has a shot of beating him. Thiago Silva tried to be aggressive and passive at the same time. He never really tried to just crowd him and shoot for atake down. IMO noone would beat them if they just follow him around trying to strike. Hes definitely going to go down as one of the all time greats

Rampage needs to beat a guy like ForrestGriffin before he can dream of beating Lyoto.

Rampage really is not even Top 5 in this division IMHO

[québecwarrior]

Rampage needs to beat a guy like ForrestGriffin before he can dream of beating Lyoto.

Rampage really is not even Top 5 in this division IMHO
W.H.A.T????
Rampage isnt top 5?
Who is?

[Spunik]

Tito > Rashad

irrelevant to this thread and Tito's face doesn't agree:yep

[Tuffnutz]

W.H.A.T????
Rampage isnt top 5?
Who is?
Chimba lost the plot a bit after Penn got whooped. :D

[chimba]

Forrest - Already beat Rampage
Machida - Lets not go there
Rashad - Too Fast and way better wrestler
Manhoef - Can we say Comatose
Sobral - This is the easiest fight for Rampage but Babalu will likely choke him out

Rampage is the most overrated fighter in the UFC. This guy Koed a Chuck that is way way past it, Rashad did it better. Lost to a prime but limited fighter in Forrest and defeated another way past it fighter in Wand (Who brutalized him in his prime twice!)
Rampage has really nothing extraordinary except his persona, tell me one thing he's very good at?

[chimba]

Chimba lost the plot a bit after Penn got whooped. :D

Penn sucked ass but Machida was the best fighter last night.

[québecwarrior]

Forrest - Already beat Rampage
Machida - Lets not go there
Rashad - Too Fast and way better wrestler
Manhoef - Can we say Comatose
Sobral - This is the easiest fight for Rampage but Babalu will likely choke him out

Rampage is the most overrated fighter in the UFC. This guy Koed a Chuck that is way way past it, Rashad did it better. Lost to a prime but limited fighter in Forrest and defeated another way past it fighter in Wand (Who brutalized him in his prime twice!)
Rampage has really nothing extraordinary except his persona, tell me one thing he's very good at?
:lol:
Rampage beat Forrest in a rematch, just wait and see
Rampage beat Manhoef, lol Manhoef has shitty wrestling, bad ground game, and always gass, Rampage will fight smart and wear him down, than GnP the shit outta him
He would beat Sobral, please...
For god sake, Rampage is a top 5 at 205. Saying otherwise is silly, sorry

One thing he is very good at?
Rampage is a fuckin good complete fighter

[chimba]

lol funny Rampage looked gassed in the second round against Griffin,

I agree Rampage is good

[Polymath]

irrelevant to this thread and Tito's face doesn't agree:yep

Course its relevant - Tito is a better GNP fighter than Rashad and got dominated by LM. Wait, you dont mean Evans is going to outstrike Machida?

[Koa]

easier said than done though

Absolutely. In no way am I saying any decent fighter could use such a strategy and come out victorious. I'm just saying that my strategy is ground zero on how to beat the guy, since everyone seems to go at him the same way..

If you just stand your ground, he is going to lunge in, pop in and out with strikes. A fighter is going to need to be a sharp counter striker to take advantage of that.

If you retreat and make him close, its harder for the stalker to work with feints if they are dealing with feints themselves. Forcing a guy into something unfamiliar is usually going to yield the best results.

[bulakenyo]

Absolutely. In no way am I saying any decent fighter could use such a strategy and come out victorious. I'm just saying that my strategy is ground zero on how to beat the guy, since everyone seems to go at him the same way..

If you just stand your ground, he is going to lunge in, pop in and out with strikes. A fighter is going to need to be a sharp counter striker to take advantage of that.

If you retreat and make him close, its harder for the stalker to work with feints if they are dealing with feints themselves. Forcing a guy into something unfamiliar is usually going to yield the best results.

I don't think being agressive is something that's unfamiliar to him, though.

Karate is a pretty offensive minded combat sport too, in short, quick bursts. One shot at a time. A very patient offensive style.

[Cameron]

ive been sayign it for a while this guy fucking ownes he should be the ufc lhw champ already and hes going to be by years end

[rusty nails]

ive been sayign it for a while this guy fucking ownes he should be the ufc lhw champ already and hes going to be by years end

i agree. ive been praising him for a while now..


the key to beating machida is alot of feinting.. you have to use his superb reflexes against him.. hes so alert that you cant hit him with one shot. its only when he REACTS that you go after him and when he moves or lifts his hands you hit him to the body or kick his legs and slowly chop away at his movement.. and forget takedowns.. the thai clinch is the weapon against this guy because once he stops you need to keep him stopped..
only once he stops will the fight be there for the taking.. hes one of these fighters that wont lose until he slows with age or cops a fluke shot..

[Kestrel]

Absolutely. In no way am I saying any decent fighter could use such a strategy and come out victorious. I'm just saying that my strategy is ground zero on how to beat the guy, since everyone seems to go at him the same way..

If you just stand your ground, he is going to lunge in, pop in and out with strikes. A fighter is going to need to be a sharp counter striker to take advantage of that.

If you retreat and make him close, its harder for the stalker to work with feints if they are dealing with feints themselves. Forcing a guy into something unfamiliar is usually going to yield the best results.

It will work only if Machida was using any other style besides karate. Boxers has to get close, muy thai fighters fight close, all the stand up guys fight close, all these type of fighters make countering someone easier, but Karate doesn't allow that. Machida stance is what separate his attacks. He can pop in and out and just outpoint you with his kicks and he'll be out of range from your counters if you want to punch him. So if your tactic is to make him come at you, then you'll just going to end up being a kicking bag for him.

[HyperBone]

ive been sayign it for a while this guy fucking ownes he should be the ufc lhw champ already and hes going to be by years end

he SHOULD be.. but that dumbass dana white still seems hesitant to give him a title shot.. politics i s'ppose

[LB3000]

I've always said the winner of Machida vs Silva (I was always confident Machida would win but wasn't expecting a 1st rd KO) should get the title shot ahead of Rampage. After his 1st round KO he now has a stronger case but Dana has said he will have to wait. The only way he will get a shot next is if Rampage messes up against Jardine, which I don't see happening.

[Shogun_12]

future lhw champ. wanna see him fight shogun

[unitas]

easy. bring a fuckin gun..............then just point and spray.

outside of that........................no idea.

[coog]

Anderson said they would never fight because they are friends and is rooting for Machida to win the title. Secondly how can you see Machida koing Silva the way Silva comes foward? Anderson Silva is mainly a counter fighter and has never been knocked out, Wanderlei Silva comes foward he could get KO'D by Machida. So you mean Wanderlei. And I heard tonights fight was for the #1 contender spot. Machida is gonna beat Evans.
They are work out partners as well

[BewareofDawg]

He looks like he has Down Syndrome

[LB3000]

Here is a good little article on Bloody Elbow I found and its spot on.

Lyoto Machida Hates Vaseline

by Brent Brookhouse

UFC 94 was the event that seemingly had broken Machida through the "boring" label in the eyes of many of the haters. Now we're two days removed from the event and no one cares about "The Dragon." As Yves Levine pushed Machida off the stiffened Thiago Silva I smiled, ready to teach the newly converted the secret handshake and welcome them into the Star Chamber that is the Lyoto Machida Fan Club.

The story I was getting ready to write early Sunday morning was the one that most interested me coming out of the event: the myth of Machida's inability to connect with the mainstream audience.

Machida received a nice reaction at the weigh-ins, certainly not the kind of reaction one would expect after reading the message board talk of mainstream hatred leading up to the fight. Then Machida received a warm reception at the fight, and Silva was lightly booed as he was introduced. Finally Lyoto fought the perfect fight, turning Thiago's aggression against him, working from the outside with strikes and if distance was closed he threw a few strikes and used a trip takedown to further dictate the pacing and location of the fight. As the crowd erupted at the devastating knockout I was confident that Machida had just become a star.

But now I have spent 48 hours plowing through news about Vaseline, witch doctors, and greasy Canadians. It's obviously a major story, but by focusing so much on this one aspect of the card we are cheating Machida (and Jon Jones) out of the attention they deserve after their performances. So here's to a push for a little love for the guys who did their jobs impressively and without controversy.

[chimba]

easy. bring a fuckin gun..............then just point and spray.

outside of that........................no idea.

Thats about it because no ones going to beat him. He looks a couple of years ahead of the competition. Itll take a fully developed Jon Jones type to beat him. Which is a future scenario to say the least.

Anderson Silva is in the same category assuming that he is trying to improve his TD defense. Lyoto certainly has a stronger base.

[québecwarrior]

Rashad Evans will beat him, and i'm gonna bet a shitload of money on that.

[Mob]

Any of you clowns see Machida.......you tell him that I'm looking for his ass.

Chickenshit motherfucker!:lol:

[Polymath]

Well :think

[Kestrel]

Well :think

Read my previous post. I call it that if a fighter tries to lure Machida to come, he'll end up being a kicking bag. Evans tried to do that and that's what happen. Karate loves fighting in distance... and nobody is the UFC has the tools to fight in distance.

You will need a guy who is also good with kicks and I think Cung Le will pose a good fight with Machida.

[Addie]

Rashad Evans will beat him, and i'm gonna bet a shitload of money on that.

...Owned.

[Polymath]

When you watch him tie up with Tito or Evans and throw them around, shrug them off etc, thats when he looks unbeatable imo.

[bachatu]

When you watch him tie up with Tito or Evans and throw them around, shrug them off etc, thats when he looks unbeatable imo.

Yeah, its the way he does what he does. He does things so naturally and makes it look easy. What was interesting is that if you notice the warm up differences between the fighters. Rashad was warming up maybe 1hr before hand, seemed more warmed up and intense walking into the ring, while Machida was so relaxed and even looked cold (no sweat) up to the point that they touched gloves.

[chimba]

The man is so ahead, Lyoto, Anderson and JDS are probably laughing at how behind the rest of MMA is to them.

Like I said, the man to beat him at 205 is just probably starting to train. A Jon Jones, if he fulfills his promise 5 years from now can compete with him. An bonafide young Olympic champ like an Ishii certaily is a candidate in the near future.

The gap is so wide, him losing is unthinkable

[AJAX]

Rashad Evans will beat him, and i'm gonna bet a shitload of money on that.

Hahahahhahaha:deal

[SkillsSoSmooth]

The man is so ahead, Lyoto, Anderson and JDS are probably laughing at how behind the rest of MMA is to them.

Like I said, the man to beat him at 205 is just probably starting to train. A Jon Jones, if he fulfills his promise 5 years from now can compete with him. An bonafide young Olympic champ like an Ishii certaily is a candidate in the near future.

The gap is so wide, him losing is unthinkable

It's interesting that you mention Jon Jones (btw didn't he have a fight tonight?) because he's just as unpredictable with his strikes as Lyto is but with the added bonus of having a massive height and reach advantage, in an ideal world Jon would just pick Lyto off from the outside and frustrate him until he feels compelled to engage, once Lyto comes forward Jon could possibly take it to the ground where he'd possibly have an advantage with his wrestling background, the way Jon is developing i can see this fight happening within the a year and a half or so.

Back on topic and what can you say about Machida? he was on top form tonight but to be honest basic fighters like Rashad don't have a prayer against the likes of Lyto, the only man i think could beat Machida is Anderson because Lyto likes to keep things standing and i honestly don't believe anyone can live with Silva in that department, Anderson would hit him from angles he's never seen before, it's a pity it's not likely to happen though as they are good friends and train together, but can anyone imagine what their sparring sessions must be like? my word i'd pay to see that :D .

[radab]

shot gun?

[Totomabs]

Rashad Evans will beat him, and i'm gonna bet a shitload of money on that.


:think :roll: :lol: :rofl :deal

[Ubersteve]

A lhw Cro Cop?

Probably not but it's tough now!

[elixirvtec]

Rashad Evans will beat him, and i'm gonna bet a shitload of money on that.


lmao. You are a joke now. First you said chuck would beat rampage, then you said chuck would beat evans, then you said evans would beat machida. what kind of false mma prediction are you going to come up with now?

[MaliSlamusrex]

no idea whatsoever.

[Blue145]

Kick him in the balls and stamp his head in and take the DQ

[OuterDrake]

any former k1 fighter turn mma,not an ex wrestler turn striking or bjj/strikers


he did shitty against the last kick boxer he fought.

Mirko Crocop should go to lhw

[MaliSlamusrex]

You would need a world class kickboxer to beat Machida, and there is no one with world class muay thai in mma

any former k1 fighter turn mma,not an ex wrestler turn striking or bjj/strikers


he did shitty against the last kick boxer he fought.

Mirko Crocop should go to lhw

[LB3000]

The man is so ahead, Lyoto, Anderson and JDS are probably laughing at how behind the rest of MMA is to them.

Like I said, the man to beat him at 205 is just probably starting to train. A Jon Jones, if he fulfills his promise 5 years from now can compete with him. An bonafide young Olympic champ like an Ishii certaily is a candidate in the near future.

The gap is so wide, him losing is unthinkable JDS = Junior Dos Santos? :lol:

Yeah, Jones has a lot of potential and could pose problems if they meet in the future. Cane is another, but I want to see him in with a top 205 after a fight or 2 so we can see how he does. A few people in the 98 thread mentioned Shogun. I read a interview he did recently saying he is friends with Machida but he would be willing to fight him if he had to. Ideally, it would make sense to have Shogun vs Rampage and the winner fight Machida. If that happens it would leave Machida on the sidelines without an opponent, so it looks like Rampage will get the next shot and Shogun will fight someone else.

[québecwarrior]

hey bunch of fucker, I changed my prediction saying Machida would win on UD, check the prediction thread you idiots.

[Grievesy]

hey bunch of fucker, I changed my prediction saying Machida would win on UD, check the prediction thread you idiots.

Sure you did.

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Found this randomly mooching about the internet.:yep

[québecwarrior]

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[Grievesy]

Lies!!!!!

[québecwarrior]

ahaha, even if I predicted the right guy, I got fucked by that wonderfull performance by Machida. I would have never he would KTFO Evans in 2. Damn, even Tito did ''better'' than Evans

[Grievesy]

ahaha, even if I predicted the right guy, I got fucked by that wonderfull performance by Machida. I would have never he would KTFO Evans in 2. Damn, even Tito did ''better'' than Evans

You only get it right when it's GSP. Anyone else and you're fucked.

[québecwarrior]

You only get it right when it's GSP. Anyone else and you're fucked.
You did the same predciton as me : Machida UD
:yep

[Grievesy]

You did the same predciton as me : Machida UD
:yep

Except I had that from the beginning. You picked Evans by KO, got cold feet and changed predictions.

[québecwarrior]

Except I had that from the beginning. You picked Evans by KO, got cold feet and changed predictions.
:DI was just underrating Machida, but I saw the light at the good momment.

[bachatu]

Sure you did.

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Found this randomly mooching about the internet.:yep


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[HyperBone]

any former k1 fighter turn mma,not an ex wrestler turn striking or bjj/strikers


he did shitty against the last kick boxer he fought.

Mirko Crocop should go to lhw

:lol:

[Bill Butcher]

If Shogun is back to his best, him & Machida could make magic vs each other.

WOW !

[chimba]

JDS = Junior Dos Santos? :lol:

Yeah, Jones has a lot of potential and could pose problems if they meet in the future. Cane is another, but I want to see him in with a top 205 after a fight or 2 so we can see how he does. A few people in the 98 thread mentioned Shogun. I read a interview he did recently saying he is friends with Machida but he would be willing to fight him if he had to. Ideally, it would make sense to have Shogun vs Rampage and the winner fight Machida. If that happens it would leave Machida on the sidelines without an opponent, so it looks like Rampage will get the next shot and Shogun will fight someone else.

JDS is the biggest kept secret in MMA. Machida himself had mentioned how he couldnt do shit against JDS in sparring. You see this guy in two fights, he is nothing but an animal in that cage. He has it all technique, power and incredible speed for his size. He will be the future of the HW division.

[Vitor Belfort]

Keep trying for the takedown. Tito Ortiz almost submitted him in the 3rd round. You gotta get on top of him and try to ground and pound his azz. It's hard to do it cuz it's hard to take him down but if somebody can take him down then he has the best chance of beating him.

[Vitor Belfort]

If Shogun is back to his best, him & Machida could make magic vs each other.

WOW !


true the shogun in pride was unbelievable. Shogun vs machida might be next.

[Vitor Belfort]

hey bunch of fucker, I changed my prediction saying Machida would win on UD, check the prediction thread you idiots.


is that after you saw the 1st round:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[LB3000]

JDS is the biggest kept secret in MMA. Machida himself had mentioned how he couldnt do shit against JDS in sparring. You see this guy in two fights, he is nothing but an animal in that cage. He has it all technique, power and incredible speed for his size. He will be the future of the HW division. There is no denying the guy is a exciting addition to the HW division, but saying he is laughing at how far the rest of MMA is behind (and putting him in the same group as Machida and Anderson) is a bit too much considering he still has a lot to prove.

[québecwarrior]

is that after you saw the 1st round:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
are you retarded? cant you see the date of my post.

[achillesthegreat]

He is not invincible but he is bloody good. Firstly his chin is up in the air and someone has to clock that eventually. He also pulls back so someone has to be aggressive enough to go for it. Evans managed to counter once with some nice right hands but you need more than that. Rampage might be the man for the job.

[bulakenyo]

I think the octagon helps his defense immensely. It is perfect for his defensive movement. He'll be much more vulnerable inside a boxing ring. The angles will make it easier for him to get cornered and get trapped.

Even if he has his chin up and exposed, the octagon's so wide open and his distance and posture's so far away from the "strike zone" that it doesnt matter so much.

The only way he gets hit is off an opponent's counter on the inside, if Machida gets too excited and stays too long striking inside the pocket.

[bachatu]

I think the octagon helps his defense immensely. It is perfect for his defensive movement. He'll be much more vulnerable inside a boxing ring. The angles will make it easier for him to get cornered and get trapped.

Even if he has his chin up and exposed, the octagon's so wide open and his distance and posture's so far away from the "strike zone" that it doesnt matter so much.

The only way he gets hit is off an opponent's counter on the inside, if Machida gets too excited and stays too long striking inside the pocket.
Good point, I think he was in the pocket the couple times he had Rashad hurt.

[Chud]

cant see any 205ers around beating him. if this was pride he might come up against a huge HW GnP wrestler in a novelty fight or in an open weight tourney, then he'd be in trouble.

[achillesthegreat]

I think the octagon helps his defense immensely. It is perfect for his defensive movement. He'll be much more vulnerable inside a boxing ring. The angles will make it easier for him to get cornered and get trapped.

Even if he has his chin up and exposed, the octagon's so wide open and his distance and posture's so far away from the "strike zone" that it doesnt matter so much.

The only way he gets hit is off an opponent's counter on the inside, if Machida gets too excited and stays too long striking inside the pocket.

This is true. The cage makes it better for a mover. It's huge and lacks the harsh corners in a ring.

[coog]

Anderson Silva better not go anywhere near Machida. I can see Machida KOing Silva the way Silva comes forward. Machida is hard to catch and can bang when he needs to. I can't believe he has not gotten a title shot yet, does he have to clean out the division before Dana gives him a shot?
these guys are work out partners and know each other well I wonder if they will ever fight?

[québecwarrior]

these guys are work out partners and know each other well I wonder if they will ever fight?
Dana White said thats a possibility