George Foreman "I love the UFC. I love it,"

[demzor]

"I love the UFC. I love it," Foreman said. "If they had had that back when I was coming up, in 1966, it would have been my sport. Man, I love it. And you know what? Nobody would have pulled the rope-a-dope on me."

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[nulty]

I love old school UFC, and I bet that is what George was on about. It got pussified with rules and time limits etc. It was better before, no time limit, no weight class, only 2 rules no biting and no eye gouging; now that I liked. I hate the UFC today and all MMA as it is.

[geppy]

I agree with George. I have no doubt Foreman would of crushed Ali if they fought in MMA gloves. Ali let Foreman punch himself out , no way anyone could of survived those type of shots from George in MMA gloves.

[nulty]

I agree with George. I have no doubt Foreman would of crushed Ali if they fought in MMA gloves. Ali let Foreman punch himself out , no way anyone could of survived those type of shots from George in MMA gloves.

Yep but with MMA gloves Ali wouldn't have used those tactics. He would have used the tactics the world expected and danced, although he would have adapted somewhat.

PS. If the world depended on a guy taking a power shot from a ferocious alien I'd pick Ali anywhere from his debut until well hell until the end, even when the man was so far past it he was almost back at the beginning and clearly ill, he still took shots from holmes and berbick.

[brooklyn1550]

If only baseball pitchers used golf balls...Hank Aaron would have 3000 home runs. If only MMA gloves were used? They weren't George, stop dwelling on the Rumble in the Jungle. Ali wouldn't have done the rope a dope, he would have moved more.

But its cool Foreman likes MMA - boxing fans can be MMA fans too without bashing it and putting MMA down

[geppy]

Yep but with MMA gloves Ali wouldn't have used those tactics. He would have used the tactics the world expected and danced, although he would have adapted somewhat.

Ali had a chance to fight a MMA fight, but he bitched out at the last second and changed the rules. Ali was a great boxer, but that was not his greatest moment.

[nulty]

Ali had a chance to fight a MMA fight, but he bitched out at the last second and changed the rules. Ali was a great boxer, but that was not his greatest moment.

When was that then? And if MMA was a decent option back then, why is george saying it would have been his sport? Surely is it was established it would have been?

[geppy]

When was that then? And if MMA was a decent option back then, why is george saying it would have been his sport? Surely is it was established it would have been?

It was a Japanese wrestler that wanted to fight Ali. Ali agreed, but then totally changed the rules right before the fight.

He sat on the ground and kicked the shit out of Ali all night, while Ali done nothing.

[Scar]

Moved to the MMA Forum.

[nulty]

It was a Japanese wrestler that wanted to fight Ali. Ali agreed, but then totally changed the rules right before the fight.

He sat on the gound and kicked the shit out of Ali all night, while Ali done nothing.

Oh shit. I knew that was what you'd refer to to. That was a worked match. You know pro wrestling isn't real right. Ali sat up on the ropes etc that was called working the crowd. It was pre arranged publicity stunt.

[geppy]

Oh shit. I knew that was what you'd refer to to. That was a worked match. You know pro wrestling isn't real right. Ali sat up on the ropes etc that was called working the crowd. It was pre arranged publicity stunt.

Ali's legs took a beating, those were real kicks. Inoki is considered a pioneer of MMA's in Japan. He started shoot wrestling (real fighting promoted by wrestling organizations) in Japan , which led to the start of Pancrase ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).

[younghypnotiq]

nulty i agree i like the old UFC better.

[Beebs]

It was a Japanese wrestler that wanted to fight Ali. Ali agreed, but then totally changed the rules right before the fight.

He sat on the ground and kicked the shit out of Ali all night, while Ali done nothing.

It was a work, with a trilogy supposed to be set up.

[geppy]

It was a work, with a trilogy supposed to be set up.


No! Where do you get this information? Everyting I read indicates that it is was just a really bad shoot fight , with way too may rules, and the action really lacked.

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[demzor]

if it was a work... why the hell was it so boring?

[Stenna]

The wrestler was antonio inoki

[nulty]

You're fucking ridiculous.

It's just an opinion mate. I'm not having a go at the guys who do like it, just saying I don't.

[Relentless]

george foreman is not a real boxing fn! he knows nothing about the sweet science!!!!

[Beebs]

No! Where do you get this information? Everyting I read indicates that it is was just a really bad shoot fight , with way too may rules, and the action really lacked.

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That website sums up what I thought was generally accepted as having happened

"As Arum put it, “Professional wrestlers are performers. The thing is a fraud.”
However, Inoki had not planned to put on a show. To him and his manager, it was a serious fight between a boxer and a wrestler. "

Basically it was supposed to be 3 pro wrestling matches, then Ali's camp either found out or suspected Inoki (who is a complete fucking tool, just for the record) would make it a shoot (which he did). Ali's camp came for a pro wrestling bout and didn't want to get into an NHB match with a multi million dollar investment in a country they didn't care about, so they came up with the rules that made it so awful.

I don't know if this is 100% true, but thats pretty much the sum of what I've heard on the subject.

[geppy]

That website sums up what I thought was generally accepted as having happened

"As Arum put it, “Professional wrestlers are performers. The thing is a fraud.”
However, Inoki had not planned to put on a show. To him and his manager, it was a serious fight between a boxer and a wrestler. "

Basically it was supposed to be 3 pro wrestling matches, then Ali's camp either found out or suspected Inoki (who is a complete fucking tool, just for the record) would make it a shoot (which he did). Ali's camp came for a pro wrestling bout and didn't want to get into an NHB match with a multi million dollar investment in a country they didn't care about, so they came up with the rules that made it so awful.

I don't know if this is 100% true, but thats pretty much the sum of what I've heard on the subject.

Yeah, that is right . Inoki really wanted to fight.