GSP getting Vaselined Pics!! [Archive]

chimba

02-02-2009, 04:23 PM

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Again, Im not saying it would have changed the outcome, but man this shit is just not kosher. Rubbing in the neck shoulders and upper back..forget any high or rubber guard positions. Forget gogo or chokes as well.

Jackson said its a ritual but wow why not just touch GSPs crotch and not rub him this way, its weird and out of place

BewareofDawg

02-02-2009, 04:26 PM

With an avatar pic like that, I'd stay away from starting threads about vaseline and guys rubbing others :yep

chimba

02-02-2009, 04:29 PM

With an avatar pic like that, I'd stay away from starting threads about vaseline and guys rubbing others :yep

:lol:

Grievesy

02-02-2009, 04:32 PM

:lol::lol:

Looks like an accident to me. Forgot he had vaseline on his hands. It would have been a little bit anyway.

chimba

02-02-2009, 04:33 PM

:lol::lol:

Looks like an accident to me. Forgot he had vaseline on his hands. It would have been a little bit anyway.

True, look at GSPs face, what is this guy doing?

Grievesy

02-02-2009, 04:35 PM

True, look at GSPs face, what is this guy doing?
:lol: Looks like he's enjoying it.:hey

Dunno but they rub his back like that every fight.

ufoalf

02-02-2009, 04:36 PM

I wanna see a time on all those photos. Did he get vaseline before he greased the brows or after?

Grievesy

02-02-2009, 04:37 PM

I wanna see a time on all those photos. Did he get vaseline before he greased the brows or after?

Pretty sure it was after.

chimba

02-02-2009, 04:40 PM

I wanna see a time on all those photos. Did he get vaseline before he greased the brows or after?

It does look out of sequence, I think pouring water on his head is first. I think what the complaint was is they were doing this over and over. For someone to notice and bitch and complain to officials, it was definitely not a 10 second gaffe, it went on.

GSP seems like he doesnt know because if I recall, he was very comfy, confident and not even breathing hard in between rounds. Its just a stupid thing a corner would do.

younghypnotiq

02-02-2009, 06:34 PM

wait. im confused is it illegal to put vaseline anyere? or is only alowed on the face?

LB3000

02-02-2009, 06:55 PM

Im pretty sure its only allowed on the face. Whatever the outcome is, the NSAC need to have a person in each corner to check whats going on in between rounds.

Beebs

02-02-2009, 07:55 PM

Non issue, total diversionary tactic by Penns camp.

Here is the exact rule

"2. The excessive use of grease or any other foreign substance may not be used on the face or body of an unarmed combatant. The referees or the Commission’s representative in charge shall cause any excessive grease or foreign substance to be removed."

It was followed, to the letter, the commission removed what little grease may have made it.

It is a non issue.

Beebs

02-02-2009, 07:57 PM

Im pretty sure its only allowed on the face. Whatever the outcome is, the NSAC need to have a person in each corner to check whats going on in between rounds.

They have them, he wiped GSP with a towel.

They check the fighters before the fight, they watch them in between rounds, and there are cameras on them at all times, if somebody believes they are just going to intentionally try and rub vasoline on a guy and get away with it they are nuts.

chimba

02-02-2009, 08:00 PM

Beebs

02-02-2009, 08:02 PM

The problem is the grease between rounds 1 and 2 are the ones that didnt get wiped. The one after rd two got wiped because the official walked into the cage to do it himself

Thats because the official who gets paid to make it his entire purpose in life for 30 minutes to see if there is any illegal activity going on in the corner said there was no illegal activity going on in the corner.

There is an entire system in place to deal with this, they oversaw every second, they casually wiped him down once, thats it.

chimba

02-02-2009, 08:10 PM

Thats because the official who gets paid to make it his entire purpose in life for 30 minutes to see if there is any illegal activity going on in the corner said there was no illegal activity going on in the corner.

The same stupid officials that came short of calling GSPs victory tainted, check out the NSCA comments.

The point of this is GSP would have won anyway..30 lbs of pure muscle advantage for a guy thats very good all around is insurmountable to begin with.

Beebs

02-02-2009, 08:12 PM

So insurmountable that you made a bet it wouldn't happen.

Tuffnutz

02-02-2009, 08:17 PM

So insurmountable that you made a bet it wouldn't happen.
:lol:

chimba

02-02-2009, 08:18 PM

So insurmountable that you made a bet it wouldn't happen.

I stick with BJ, its a matter of taste, his style of fighting is my preference
win or lose.

Same with A. Silva, Machida and Fedor..

québecwarrior

02-02-2009, 08:24 PM

I stick with BJ, its a matter of taste, his style of fighting is my preference
win or lose.

Same with A. Silva, Machida and Fedor..
funny that your 4 favorite fighter, are the best fighter in their respective weight(Machida is for some;)).
High standard?
(

LB3000

02-02-2009, 08:24 PM

They have them, he wiped GSP with a towel.

They check the fighters before the fight, they watch them in between rounds, and there are cameras on them at all times, if somebody believes they are just going to intentionally try and rub vasoline on a guy and get away with it they are nuts. Yeah, I know they have them but my point was they need someone inside right away in both corners monitoring at all times. For example after round 3, there are 2 guys with GSP while the guy who is with BJ is just strolling around is isn't really close enough most the time. Bascially, some of them need to do a better job to avoid something from happening in the future.

But your right, they have guys in there and if there was serious concern they would have brought it up and dealt with the matter. Like how they did at the end of rd 2. You can hear one of the NSAC guys say you are rubbing his back, then before he goes he grabs the towel and wipes GSP's back.

RUSKULL

02-02-2009, 08:29 PM

The same stupid officials that came short of calling GSPs victory tainted, check out the NSCA comments.

The point of this is GSP would have won anyway..30 lbs of pure muscle advantage for a guy thats very good all around is insurmountable to begin with.

They both took the fight knowing that, it's also a non-issue.

chimba

02-02-2009, 08:30 PM

funny that your 4 favorite fighter, are the best fighter in their respective weight(Machida is for some;)).
High standard?
(

Second level favorites,
Cung Le, GSP, Wandy, Frank Shamrock, Diaz Brothers., Rashad, Sudo (retired?) Vera, Nover, Munoz and yes Im starting to like Lesnar

chimba

02-02-2009, 08:33 PM

They both took the fight knowing that, it's also a non-issue.

Yeah they did. Props to Penn for thinking he is good enough and had the balls to do so. He wasnt good enough. The reality is GSP is a much bigger guy and his specialty wrestling overrides BJs JJ(which I prefer).

The Wrestling discipline is still predominant in the sport, there will come a time though that taking someone down will a rare occurence

québecwarrior

02-02-2009, 08:33 PM

Second level favorites,
Cung Le, GSP, Wandy, Frank Shamrock, Diaz Brothers., Rashad, Sudo (retired?) Vera, Nover, Munoz and yes Im starting to like Lesnar
you should bea fan of Matt Hamill
Everyone should be

chimba

02-02-2009, 08:35 PM

you should bea fan of Matt Hamill
Everyone should be

Hammil nah man, you misread me. Hes in the Rampage, Forrest category for me, not a fan

québecwarrior

02-02-2009, 08:36 PM

and Lesnar is not in that category?

chimba

02-02-2009, 08:41 PM

and Lesnar is not in that category?

I like Lesnar, everytime he fights something special is going to happen, yeah he's brash and hes a wrestler. But hes a very exciting wrestler, coz he is top of the food chain. He throws people around and taunts them, I like that. At the end of the day this is entertainment and I want to be entertained. Everytime this guy steps into the ring he punches in the face and knocks them down viloently and hes a wrestler, see I like that

codeman99998

02-02-2009, 11:35 PM

chimba

02-02-2009, 11:57 PM

The reality is Georges St. Pierre is a better fighter than BJ Penn.

You just repeated what I said. He is a much bigger man. Thats a fact. Everyone knows that.

codeman99998

02-03-2009, 12:26 AM

Yeah they did. Props to Penn for thinking he is good enough and had the balls to do so. He wasnt good enough. The reality is GSP is a much bigger guy and his specialty wrestling overrides BJs JJ(which I prefer).

The Wrestling discipline is still predominant in the sport, there will come a time though that taking someone down will a rare occurence

It wasn't just wrestling. GSP dominated the striking landing crisp jabs and good kicks while BJ couldn't land anything significant on the feet.

GSP is a more skilled more versatile fighter than Penn. Penn is only better than GSP at BJJ, and submission defense is a lot easier than submission offense.

Hermit

02-03-2009, 12:43 AM

I wanna see a time on all those photos. Did he get vaseline before he greased the brows or after?

Don't need times, we need to watch the thing in 'real time'. But would that make him any more slippery than working up a good sweat? I mean if it was just a minimal amount left over from when he did the face.

chimba

02-03-2009, 12:45 AM

It wasn't just wrestling. GSP dominated the striking landing crisp jabs and good kicks while BJ couldn't land anything significant on the feet.

GSP is a more skilled more versatile fighter than Penn. Penn is only better than GSP at BJJ, and submission defense is a lot easier than submission offense.

What?? The first rd was barely GSP. 2nd round BJ came out with a 1-2 then got taken down and it was done, no one to blame but BJ. The difference was BJ couldnt secure his guard, due to GSPs sheer brute strenght and size. The guy is an incredible athlete, miles ahead of BJ, strong and explosive. Skillwise they are even, its his athletic attributes that pushes him over.

enzo

02-03-2009, 03:32 AM

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fatcity

02-03-2009, 10:06 AM

GAY avatar ALERT!

Hermit

02-03-2009, 10:33 AM

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Shit article. He says some things that aren't backed up by stills. Nothing is CLEAR from those photos. While what he says MIGHT be true, using stills simply do not back up his claims. How do we know he went straight to the body after going to his hand in the second picture? We don't. He could have been wiping excess back onto his hand for all we know.

PH|LLA

02-03-2009, 11:41 AM

at the end of the day GSP is twice the fighter BJ Penn is and he proved it on that night

That's what really matters

BewareofDawg

02-03-2009, 11:51 AM

at the end of the day GSP is twice the fighter BJ Penn is and he proved it on that night

That's what really matters
Twice the fighter? No. GSP proved that he is a Professional Athlete, and BJ Penn is a talented fighter.

québecwarrior

02-03-2009, 12:11 PM

Twice the fighter? No. GSP proved that he is a Professional Athlete, and BJ Penn is a talented fighter.
No
GSP proved he is a talented fighter and a professional athlete:good
:deal:deal:deal

BewareofDawg

02-03-2009, 12:58 PM

No
GSP proved he is a talented fighter and a professional athlete:good
:deal:deal:deal
No, I didn't mean that. I wasn't trying to say GSP ISN'T a fighter. I was saying that the disparity between the two is professionalism and athleticism. It's not that GSP has better fighting instincts or even skill for that matter, although he may. I wasn't insulting GSP at all.

québecwarrior

02-03-2009, 01:04 PM

oh okay
me and my english:yep

BewareofDawg

02-03-2009, 01:07 PM

oh okay
me and my english:yep
he is though. You can tell how much that guy sacrifices for this sport and it shows. He is essentially the perfect Mixed Martial Artist, and it isn't ALL natural ability because we have all seen the huge improvements.