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NickHudson
08-17-2007, 03:06 AM
Who had mastery of all these fighting positions?
brooklyn1550
08-17-2007, 03:07 AM
Pernell Whitaker
Sizzle
08-17-2007, 03:09 AM
Bernard Hopkins - Can win a fight from any range, and every range (See Trinidad match)
Holmes' Jab
08-17-2007, 03:11 AM
The guy currently on my avatar would be up there :good
Senya13
08-17-2007, 03:21 AM
Rjj
fists of fury
08-17-2007, 03:23 AM
Joe Louis.
apollack
08-17-2007, 03:30 AM
Ray Leonard.
brooklyn1550
08-17-2007, 03:38 AM
Marco Antonio Barrera
Holmes' Jab
08-17-2007, 03:42 AM
Joe Louis.
Good call.
NickHudson
08-17-2007, 05:03 AM
I thought many posters considered him a mid-range specialist?
Joe Louis.
JohnThomas1
08-17-2007, 06:38 AM
Wilfredo Gomez in the early days was damn good from anywhere.
Sizzle
08-17-2007, 06:42 AM
Rjj
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Real inside slugger he was. I liked his work at close-range Vs Tarver who knocked him the fuck out.
Pat_Lowe
08-17-2007, 06:44 AM
Wilfredo Gomez in the early days was damn good from anywhere.
I'll have to get some Gomez fights, I've only got his match with Pintor and Sanchez. At close range he had it over Sanchez IMO but Sanchez's work rate and conditioning paid off as his punches took a toll on Gomez, closing his eye and busting his face up.
JohnThomas1
08-17-2007, 06:45 AM
I'll have to get some Gomez fights, I've only got his match with Pintor and Sanchez. At close range he had it over Sanchez IMO but Sanchez's work rate and conditioning paid off as his punches took a toll on Gomez, closing his eye and busting his face up.
Sanchez was too big and too good, just as Gomez was to Zarate i think.
Terrible Terry
08-17-2007, 06:53 AM
A young James Toney was about as a complete a fighter as you will ever see.
PowerPuncher
08-17-2007, 06:56 AM
Duran
Pat_Lowe
08-17-2007, 07:07 AM
Sanchez was too big and too good, just as Gomez was to Zarate i think.
Yes I agree but after almost being blown out Gomez made a good fight out of it. From what I've heard he trained poorly for the fight. Based on what I saw Gomez do when he got in range I think he has a chance vs Sanchez for the decision if he was prepared 100%.
JohnThomas1
08-17-2007, 07:15 AM
Yes I agree but after almost being blown out Gomez made a good fight out of it. From what I've heard he trained poorly for the fight. Based on what I saw Gomez do when he got in range I think he has a chance vs Sanchez for the decision if he was prepared 100%.
Unbelievably, i had already made up my mind to do a thread on this fight that might even have a poll about just this, Gomez's condition claims and if and how much they factored. I know one thing, the silly bugger struggled to make the weight even tho he was moving up!
Ray Leonard and Joe Louis are the worst choice. :patsch
JohnThomas1
08-17-2007, 07:28 AM
Ray Leonard and Joe Louis are the worst choice. :patsch
Why's that exactly? Give us your detailed assessment of the range they lacked in?
Pat_Lowe
08-17-2007, 07:52 AM
Unbelievably, i had already made up my mind to do a thread on this fight that might even have a poll about just this, Gomez's condition claims and if and how much they factored. I know one thing, the silly bugger struggled to make the weight even tho he was moving up!
You should make the thread I'd be interested in others opinions. As I recall Gomez struggled to make super-bantam, so he probably trained less and figured he didnt have to cut weight as he could make featherweight. Not a smart move. After this fight though he returned back down to super-bantam...weird.
Why's that exactly? Give us your detailed assessment of the range they lacked in?
Must be kidding,right?
JohnThomas1
08-17-2007, 08:04 AM
Must be kidding,right?
I thought you'd be stumped, thanks for the confirmation
:good
JohnThomas1
08-17-2007, 08:21 AM
Because he says so. Like everytime he makes such a statement.
Ask him a simple question and he's cactus
:rofl
I thought you'd be stumped, thanks for the confirmation
:blood
What is there to explain,assclown?
You donīt need to explain anything, boy. Youīre exposed and everybod knows that you arenīt to be taken serious.
Lewis worked pretty well on the inside also he prevered to stay on the outside.
Haha,YOU my friend are exposed! You idiot don't even know how to spell Louis' name. :rofl
Now c'mon,cush cush, go back to that stinky hole where you came from.
redrooster
08-17-2007, 02:58 PM
A young James Toney was about as a complete a fighter as you will ever see.
My favorites are Norris and Jones. :good
NickHudson
08-17-2007, 05:43 PM
A little bit of a consensus for Sweetpea, perhaps?
This is quite an accolade, as most boxers - even great ones - are much more comfortable and effective in 1 or 2 of these positions.
The tall, rangy guys probably never learn the infighting because they are so effective at a distance. Conversely, the stocky fellas don't apply themselves to outfighting as they are liable to get picked off so they work in mid-range and on the inside.
How come Pernell leaned his trade so well? If he is considered exceptional in each department it of course makes it very difficult to imagine a fantasy opponent that might beat him...
JohnThomas1
08-17-2007, 06:41 PM
My favorites are Norris and Jones. :good
They say Terry was stalking around searching the canvas just after the first Brown fight. Apon questioning from Jose Garcia he replied, "i'm looking for a stronger chin".
robert ungurean
08-17-2007, 07:14 PM
George Benton
Harold Johnson
Emile Griffith
Louise Rodreguez
robert ungurean
08-17-2007, 07:16 PM
A little bit of a consensus for Sweetpea, perhaps?
This is quite an accolade, as most boxers - even great ones - are much more comfortable and effective in 1 or 2 of these positions.
The tall, rangy guys probably never learn the infighting because they are so effective at a distance. Conversely, the stocky fellas don't apply themselves to outfighting as they are liable to get picked off so they work in mid-range and on the inside.
How come Pernell leaned his trade so well? If he is considered exceptional in each department it of course makes it very difficult to imagine a fantasy opponent that might beat him...
Pernell learned his trade from George Benton.
Sanchez was too big and too good, just as Gomez was to Zarate i think.
Yup, classic example of how three fighters, otherwise equal in all respects, are separated primarily by size and strength, if only a few pounds. Imagine the wars if all three were natural featherweights and not stretching beyond their peak size.
Oh, yeh, Evander Holyfield. Great jab and straight right. Brutal elbows, forearms, uppercuts and hooks at midrange and headbutts in close. :!:
JohnThomas1
08-18-2007, 05:31 AM
Yup, classic example of how three fighters, otherwise equal in all respects, are separated primarily by size and strength, if only a few pounds. Imagine the wars if all three were natural featherweights and not stretching beyond their peak size.
Top thought!
:good
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