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andyZOR
02-06-2009, 01:49 AM
So Boytsov is fighting tomaorw night in Germany on the same card as Chagaev and Drummond vs
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Denis should be able to KO him I think. I haven't seen the Madallone fight tho.
Off topic, Mariusz Wach is also making a appearance.
Can't wait to see Boytsov!
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Priglashenie!
avk47
02-06-2009, 05:17 AM
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"Garcia has a really funny ring name - King Kong. We'll see in the ring if it fits him. My trainer Fritz Sdunek has helped me get in excellent shape for this fight, so I am not affraid of King Kong!"
catasyou
02-06-2009, 11:04 AM
Honestly andy he ain't nothing special.I really didn't like him in the Maddalone fight altough he won 7 ou of 8.He will never be champion.
kenmore
02-07-2009, 01:16 AM
I'm not impressed with Boytsov, and I doubt he'll ever emerge as a top tier heavyweight. I've been wrong before though, so we'll see.
andyZOR
02-07-2009, 05:53 PM
Denis KO!
Boxing Fanatic
02-07-2009, 06:31 PM
Boystov is over-rated.
Grecorussian
02-09-2009, 03:05 AM
What exactly is this WBA heavyweight intercontinental title he won ?
PaddyD1983
02-09-2009, 05:41 AM
Boystov is over-rated.
By who exactly?
He's no more overrated than say Arreola...
Boystov has lost his way a little over the last couple of years and hasnt really kicked on to take on opposition of a higher quality. Garcia's record was better than most of his other opponents but I'd like to see Boystov against someone who is at least European level. Say Skelton or Sprott. He can then follow Haye's lead by fighting someone genuinely dangerous like Barrett. But he needs to kick on. From what I've seen of Boystov, I think he's talented. But we wont know until his level of opposition is increased.
11player
02-09-2009, 03:21 PM
Boytsov should be good enough to beat guys like Sprott and Barret already, but I think he loses to Skelton.
He still needs to develop his game.
Kraven
02-09-2009, 07:01 PM
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02-09-2009, 07:07 PM
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boubacar
02-12-2009, 04:43 PM
There are some parallels between Boytsov and Alekseev; both are incredible hype jobs - with the only differences, that Alekseev is a very gifted boxer (and so the hype is in a way justified) - and got exposed by a totally unknown and underrated guy from argentina.
Boytsov has a lot of power, but some weak points as well. Even better european fighters like Sprott are able to disclose the points, and the guys on world level will take Boytsov to school (particulary the taller guys).
There are some parallels between Boytsov and Alekseev; both are incredible hype jobs - with the only differences, that Alekseev is a very gifted boxer (and so the hype is in a way justified) - and got exposed by a totally unknown and underrated guy from argentina.
Boytsov has a lot of power, but some weak points as well. Even better european fighters like Sprott are able to disclose the points, and the guys on world level will take Boytsov to school (particulary the taller guys).
The jury is still out on him,mate! He is a skilled young lad who has impressive pop in his fists.
We will see which way the cat jumps if he has to fight a mean spitting street cat and no purring cat who are not of tough stock.You never know! An impressive victory over a good name with a good reputation can catapult Boytsov into the limelight,all of a sudden.The audience will sit spellbound watching his next fights and his past few lacklustre performances will soon be forgotten.
Still no need to rush him into big fights though.I am getting impatient with his progress as a lot of my fellow posters here on esb are,but he is a diamond in the rough.I guess his promoter thinks that he is easily marketable in the German market so that he could be a future cash cow.His promoter surely wont like to watch his golden boy to take a pasting before he has made some good bucks with him.
Farmboxer
02-15-2009, 03:26 AM
He would beat Haye.
Kampioni
02-15-2009, 02:57 PM
Boytsov is very precise with his punches, dont count him out. He has lots of potential to be a top class fighter.
Farmboxer
02-16-2009, 12:05 AM
I think he will become a world champion in the future. At this time, so many are claiming that Haye is the best heavyweight in the world, which is bullcrap. Vlad will knock Haye out cold like Vitali did Hide.
Alcaldemb
02-16-2009, 12:56 AM
I think he will become a world champion in the future. At this time, so many are claiming that Haye is the best heavyweight in the world, which is bullcrap. Vlad will knock Haye out cold like Vitali did Hide.
Watch Haye vs Fragomeni, Boytsov could take Haye out.
Kampioni
02-16-2009, 02:38 PM
Watch Haye vs Fragomeni, Boytsov could take Haye out.
Oh yeah some flush shots from Boytsov and Haye goes to the canvas.
ramalinga
02-16-2009, 03:54 PM
Boytsov is too short in today's HW division. He can punch and is a solid boxer, but a fighter who is 6'1 would need Tyson - level movement these days to beat the Klitschkos.
This is one reason why all the bitching about the supposedly weak HW division is one - sided. Boytsov probably could have been champion in the times of Marciano, Patterson, Frazier, but not with the modern Bowe, Lewis, Klitschko - behemoths who can box.
boxeo#1
02-19-2009, 05:43 AM
I saw his last fight and I couldn't ignore the fact that he has VERY short arms.
Furthermore I think he is average and nothing special at all.
Alcaldemb
02-19-2009, 08:42 AM
I saw his last fight and I couldn't ignore the fact that he has VERY short arms.
Furthermore I think he is average and nothing special at all.
Actually if anything Boytsov appears to have long arms for his height, it is his height that is the issue.
Mendoza
02-19-2009, 08:27 PM
Actually if anything Boytsov appears to have long arms for his height, it is his height that is the issue.
I agree. Boystov has long arms for a 6' tall person. My question on him is, will he learn the bob and weave offense, and let his hands go more often?
I agree. Boystov has long arms for a 6' tall person. My question on him is, will he learn the bob and weave offense, and let his hands go more often?
He used to go out with blazing guns trying to decapitate his opponents early in his pro career. I have no clue what has happened to him in the meantime.He now tries to outbox his foes.His coach Sdunek is a very known and successful trainer,but he should know that Boytsov wont win his fights with his jab.If you have a knife in your hand you should use it and go for blood instead of dreaming of other guns.
andyZOR
03-22-2009, 03:39 PM
WBA #6 and WBO #7 ranked heavyweight Denis Boytsov (24-0, 19 KOs) will defend his WBA intercontinental title for the first time on June 6 in Germany. Boytsov, who impressively stopped Puerto-Rican Israel Garcia in February, will take on slick American stylist Leo ‘Paco’ Nolan (27-1, 10 KOs). Nolan was earlier scheduled to face New Zealander Shane Cameron but that fight was scratched due to visa problems suffered by Nolan.
Thats a pretty good step up in competition imo
TommyV
03-22-2009, 06:20 PM
Watch Haye vs Fragomeni, Boytsov could take Haye out.
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I like the early Boytsov. He was far more exciting. I don't like what Sdunek is doing with the boy. There is no point in trying to box as a heavyweight when you are vertically challenged! His old style was more impressive and got better results.
WBA #6 and WBO #7 ranked heavyweight Denis Boytsov (24-0, 19 KOs) will defend his WBA intercontinental title for the first time on June 6 in Germany. Boytsov, who impressively stopped Puerto-Rican Israel Garcia in February, will take on slick American stylist Leo ‘Paco’ Nolan (27-1, 10 KOs). Nolan was earlier scheduled to face New Zealander Shane Cameron but that fight was scratched due to visa problems suffered by Nolan.
Thats a pretty good step up in competition imo
If I am not wrong,I have never seen Nolan fight-neither live nor on tv.
Nolan is better than Pala,Andy? Slick fighter? Puncher?
11player
03-24-2009, 05:12 PM
Does anyone know anything about this Nolan guy? is he any good, does he have any chance of an upset win or is this another safe fight for Boytsov just like Garcia?
In here you have another one backing up the idea that Boytsov as a boxer will only hurt his chances of sucess. He's got some decent lenght but he is too short for a HW, he's gotta go with an explosive puncher style, similar to Tyson.
In fact, it there is a fighter today who should hold the nick name of "White Tyson" it should be Boytsov and not Chagaev.
andyZOR
03-25-2009, 02:28 PM
If I am not wrong,I have never seen Nolan fight-neither live nor on tv.
Nolan is better than Pala,Andy? Slick fighter? Puncher?
I never seen him buddy. Im only judging of what I see on boxrec, and it seems like a boost in comp. He beat Lou Saverese by UD like Boytsov as well.
Should be a cracking fight.
I like the Boystov of old, very exciting fighter. He seemed to return to that form against Garcia in his last fight.
I like the Boystov of old, very exciting fighter. He seemed to return to that form against Garcia in his last fight.
the Garcia fight gave me some hope ,too.
A cat in gloves cant catch any mice.Boytsov is no tactical mover or outstanding jabber.He has to go out with blazing guns trying to overpower his foe early and hurt him badly.He has to pounce onto his opponent beating him black and blue waging war the way faith has ordered him to fight.
It seemed that he and his coach lost track-gradually-of their goal to impress the audience and catapult his boy into the limelight.Money is the name of this game.Boytsov is a banger.I dont mind watching his coach try to teach some new tricks to his boy ordering to take it easy once in a while,but Boytsov had shown some less than stellar performances in a row.Time to up your :goodgame and win in spectacular fashion,Denis!!
Kraven
04-19-2009, 01:54 PM
I don't understand because it waits so much time to dispute a new match...:roll:
11player
04-20-2009, 11:44 AM
Heard that Boytsov is supposed to fight Nolan next. Is Nolan any better than Garcia or Hawkins?
I think Universum should match up Boytsov with Krasniqi next, that is the right matchup for Boytsov, IMO.
Heard that Boytsov is supposed to fight Nolan next. Is Nolan any better than Garcia or Hawkins?
I think Universum should match up Boytsov with Krasniqi next, that is the right matchup for Boytsov, IMO.
Good idea,player,but Krasniqui wont fight Boytsov for little money.He knows his stable mate and his firepower quite well.He wont take a huge risk for a handful of bucks.
Nolan! Hm! I would rather see him take on Nolan's far better known compatriot Brian Minto.
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