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jaycuban
08-17-2007, 01:06 PM
Who truly thinks Trinidad can beat Roy Jones Jr ?

Rumsfeld
08-17-2007, 01:06 PM
Who truly thinks Trinidad can beat Roy Jones Jr ?

I don't, but I'd love to see it happen!

:smoke

Scar
08-17-2007, 01:06 PM
I don't. At least RJJ has been active and can outbox Tito even now if his stamina doesn't fail him.

Alo2006
08-17-2007, 01:08 PM
Noboby with common sense do :lol:

klion22
08-17-2007, 01:08 PM
No chance at all. The only reason why Trinidad took this fight was for the money. If the fight were at 160, he might have a shot. But at 168 or 170 (catchweight?), he has no chance. He's going to look slow like Wright except a lot slower. Jones is going to pick him apart with his blazing hand speed and when Trinidad lands, Jones will laugh.

BewareofDawg
08-17-2007, 01:09 PM
I don't.

klion22
08-17-2007, 01:11 PM
If Roy plays the rope-a-dope theres always a chance of Tito breaking his glass jaw.

That's just the thing. Even if Trinidad catches Jones, it won't hurt Jones. So not only will Trinidad have no power but his hand speed will be amazingly slow when compared to Jones'.

Hey, i'm glad for Jones because i'm a big fan of him and he will just add another "name" to his legacy.

Jinx
08-17-2007, 01:11 PM
Tito definitely has a chance...he has always carried his power up because he knows how to get max leverage on his shots...so really more weight = more power for Tito...i'm giving Tito a puncher's chance, but i don't think he'll really pull it off...but don't write Tito off like he doesn't have a shot at all...

amunz81
08-17-2007, 01:12 PM
as hard as it is for me to admit it, being a fellow rican, i dont think he stands a chance either! however, i still give him that punchers chance!

Scar
08-17-2007, 01:13 PM
If Roy plays the rope-a-dope theres always a chance of Tito breaking his glass jaw.

If Jones plays the rope-a-dope then he loses, he'll give Trinidad a chance to land all the punches he wants and those punches will tire Roy late in the fight which will give Trinidad a bigger chance to land something huge and finish it. Roy needs to train and hard as he can to stay in the middle of the ring and boxing Tito for as long as he can. Jones has the size advantage here as well so he should know that his punch WILL hurt Trinidad and might even floor him early if he lands something huge. I'm a huge fan of RJJ and would hate to see him lose this one.

Stewbear
08-17-2007, 01:14 PM
He does not stand a chance, but though his power will not hold up at 170 like at 147, he could still crack jones' china chin

Caper
08-17-2007, 01:15 PM
There's always a slight chance both me have been known to underachive at moments in their career, no fighter is immune to mistakes and KO's. Though I would favor Jones in a wide UD.

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:16 PM
Even at this stage, RJJ will destroy Tito. On paper this is the worst style match up for Tito that one can possibly Imagine.:patsch

BewareofDawg
08-17-2007, 01:17 PM
Tito definitely has a chance...he has always carried his power up because he knows how to get max leverage on his shots...so really more weight = more power for Tito...i'm giving Tito a puncher's chance, but i don't think he'll really pull it off...but don't write Tito off like he doesn't have a shot at all...
WRONG. For two reasons, I say this.

Since he came back against Mayorga, his power has not been nearly as effective or strong. Just look how many CLEAN power shots he hit Mayorga with before the fight was finally stopped.

Winky Wright said he was shocked at how easily he could take Trinidads shots. He said early in the fight, he smiled to himself and thought "thats it, I thought this guy had power" :deal

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:18 PM
WRONG. For two reasons, I say this.

Since he came back against Mayorga, his power has not been nearly as effective or strong. Just look how many CLEAN power shots he hit Mayorga with before the fight was finally stopped.

Winky Wright said he was shocked at how easily he could take Trinidads shots. He said early in the fight, he smiled to himself and thought "thats it, I thought this guy had power" :deal

Tito never had much pop at 160. The Joppy mauling aside, he never really displayed much power there.

For most of his fights at 160, he came in at 157-158 anyway. He needs to go back to 154:deal

BewareofDawg
08-17-2007, 01:21 PM
Tito never had much pop at 160. The Joppy mauling aside, he never really displayed much power there.

For most of his fights at 160, he came in at 157-158 anyway. He needs to go back to 154:deal
I agree :good I also agree with what you posted about this being the worst possible style matchup for Tito :D

Jinx
08-17-2007, 01:24 PM
WRONG. For two reasons, I say this.

Since he came back against Mayorga, his power has not been nearly as effective or strong. Just look how many CLEAN power shots he hit Mayorga with before the fight was finally stopped.

Winky Wright said he was shocked at how easily he could take Trinidads shots. He said early in the fight, he smiled to himself and thought "thats it, I thought this guy had power" :deal

Mayorga could take a big shot before Tito ruined him that night, and Forrest landed monster shots on him in the 1st fight and he didn't blink...shots that had Mosley stumbling around the ring like a rag doll...and Winky doesn't get hit flush, or with punches he doesn't see...i'm not saying Tito will be some massive hitter at 170, but if he lands flush he can hurt anyone 168-below...

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:25 PM
I agree :good I also agree with what you posted about this being the worst possible style matchup for Tito :D

I am still in shock that anyone thinks this will be competitive. If Tito wanted money, he should have fought DLH. I am SURE he would get at least 15 million for it.

Instead, he will get a good payday to go along with this ass whuppin, and yet another retirement. :bart

amunz81
08-17-2007, 01:26 PM
first of all mayorga has one of the TOUGHEST, HARDEST chins in boxing! when he fought tito he had never been knocked out. tito came and knocked his ass out. for him to do that he had to have some kind of power! as far as winky, of course he would say that, tito hit nothing but forearm all night long.

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:26 PM
Mayorga could take a big shot before Tito ruined him that night, and Forrest landed monster shots on him in the 1st fight and he didn't blink...shots that had Mosley stumbling around the ring like a rag doll...and Winky doesn't get hit flush, or with punches he doesn't see...i'm not saying Tito will be some massive hitter at 170, but if he lands flush he can hurt anyone 168-below...

He landed flush on BHOP, and never hurt him. But BHOP is made of steel, I'll give you that.

Tito Time
08-17-2007, 01:26 PM
I'll be the lone ranger on this one... Just because I have to stick with my boy. Tito knocks Roy out in 7. Remember what Glen did to Roy, he campaigned at 160 or lower for at least 13 bouts. Anyone feel Glen will be faster\better then Tito at 170? Even though he fought Roy at 175.... Oh yea, 5-7 years ago, this would be easy RRJ=UD.

amunz81
08-17-2007, 01:28 PM
lol i got your back "tito time!" TITO TITO TITO!!!!!!!

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:28 PM
I'll be the lone ranger on this one... Just because I have to stick with my boy. Tito knocks Roy out in 7. Remember what Glen did to Roy, he campaigned at 160 or lower for at least 13 bouts. Anyone feel Glen will be faster\better then Tito at 170? Even though he fought Roy at 175....

Glen Johnson would kill Tito at 175 or 168. Tito is NOT a light heavy. He is a jr. Middleweight, and he can make some big fights there that he might have a prayer of winning. :deal

IntentionalButt
08-17-2007, 01:30 PM
I'll admit that I don't know shit about shit here, these guys' primes/glory years were part of my Dark Period between being a fan as a kid and then slowly rediscovering the sport as an adult (starting circa Barrera-Hamed). Seen their big marquis fights but never actually watched either guy live.

How is Trinidad any more or less a question mark right now than Jones was coming off his triplet of losses? Is it just the time away and the fact that he looked a little rotund in the jowels on 24/7? I know they fought a few weight classes apart in their primes, but if Tito's been ballooning with age and Roy's still plateaued at a peak fighting weight of around 175, that neutralizes any size advantage, so what makes Roy such a favorite now? Isn't the general agreement on his last couple of fights that he looked decent but nowhere near the speed or reflexes he had?

Excuse my ignorance, I am but a humble and empty vessel. :good

Tito Time
08-17-2007, 01:36 PM
Glen Johnson would kill Tito at 175 or 168. Tito is NOT a light heavy. He is a jr. Middleweight, and he can make some big fights there that he might have a prayer of winning. :deal

Mark my words, Tito KO within 7.:bbb

red cobra
08-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Whoever is guiding Trinidad is a fool or sadistic. If it is his father then shame on him. This fight isnt good for Tito or boxing for that matter. Big deal if Jones wins, but then this is a typical Jones fight. Always avoid whoever can hurt you and take on only has-beens, glue-horses, part time firemen, postmen or policemen. Then have all your halfwitted, ignorant fans and the Max Kellermans of the world jump up and down and rave about the "great" Roy Jones. Why dosen't he fight Hopkins, or Johnson, or even Tarver again? Try to avenge one of those defeats, or take on Pavlik (when he's done with Taylor) or the winner of Calzaghe-Kessler. Picking on a has-been like Tito aint gonna cut it. But it'll satisfy all the know-nothings that think he's still the greatest.

VIP
08-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Tito has a puncher's chance. People forget that Roy has been laid out twice. Also the fact that Roy has to cut another 5 pounds, it doesn't seem to healthy for him at this stage of his career.

That said, Roy should be able to win this one and win it comfortably. I really doubt Trinidad's motivation going into a fight like this because if his lacklustre fight against Winky and the fact he hasn't fought in a while. Roy has beaten decent fighters in Ajamu and Hanshaw in that time.

klion22
08-17-2007, 01:40 PM
first of all mayorga has one of the TOUGHEST, HARDEST chins in boxing! when he fought tito he had never been knocked out. tito came and knocked his ass out. for him to do that he had to have some kind of power! as far as winky, of course he would say that, tito hit nothing but forearm all night long.

It wasn't one punch that destroyed Mayorga but rather a compilation of punches. Mayorga lacked any ability to avoid Trinidad's punches. That's why he was KOed.

Boricua - TLH
08-17-2007, 01:41 PM
WRONG. For two reasons, I say this.

Since he came back against Mayorga, his power has not been nearly as effective or strong. Just look how many CLEAN power shots he hit Mayorga with before the fight was finally stopped.

Winky Wright said he was shocked at how easily he could take Trinidads shots. He said early in the fight, he smiled to himself and thought "thats it, I thought this guy had power" :deal

Winky was never cauhght clean by Tito... good for him! If he were to be caught by Tito clealy he wouldn't have won the fight. Tito should have kept throwing hooks to Winky's shoulders until he had to put his hands down... he just stood there waiting for Winky's jabs to hit him flat on the face... Then again, Tito is not well known as a boxer... Jones shouldn;t let his guard down for a second or he'll wake up next morning asking:WTF happened? :deal

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:42 PM
I'll admit that I don't know shit about shit here, these guys' primes/glory years were part of my Dark Period between being a fan as a kid and then slowly rediscovering the sport as an adult (starting circa Barrera-Hamed). Seen their big marquis fights but never actually watched either guy live.

How is Trinidad any more or less a question mark right now than Jones was coming off his triplet of losses? Is it just the time away and the fact that he looked a little rotund in the jowels on 24/7? I know they fought a few weight classes apart in their primes, but if Tito's been ballooning with age and Roy's still plateaued at a peak fighting weight of around 175, that neutralizes any size advantage, so what makes Roy such a favorite now? Isn't the general agreement on his last couple of fights that he looked decent but nowhere near the speed or reflexes he had?

Excuse my ignorance, I am but a humble and empty vessel. :good

It goes like this. Roy, stylistically, is a nightmare fight for Tito if there ever was one. Too much speed (even at this diminished state), reflexes, slickness, AND POWER. Tito has always had problems with boxers (BHOP, DLH, Winky, etc.), and Roy can outslick all those guys.

Roy is also natural at 175. Even when he fought at 160, he would come in the ring at damn near 180 lbs. He was the lineal champ, and one of the most dominant in the division's history. He also made the leap up to Heavy, and took a title there.

Sure Jones was stopped twice, but Tito was stopped at a lower weight class by an Old BHOP (he was old even then). He has also been dropped SEVERAL times at 147 and 154.

Tito, on the other hand, has fought at lower weight classes through the amatuers on to the pros (as low as 108 at one point). Sure he is MUCH bigger now, but his prime weight is still 154. In most of his bouts at 160, he never weighed more than 157-158.

Tito ate himself over the 200lb mark during his retirements, but that does not make him a light heavy now. He never would have beat RJJ prime for prime. RJ is not the smae, but he has been active and has won 2 fights in a row. Tito was last seen being used as Winky Wright's punching bag.

All of the above = Decimation of Tito. :good

Druid
08-17-2007, 01:45 PM
That's just the thing. Even if Trinidad catches Jones, it won't hurt Jones. So not only will Trinidad have no power but his hand speed will be amazingly slow when compared to Jones'.

Hey, i'm glad for Jones because i'm a big fan of him and he will just add another "name" to his legacy.

i don't believe that, if Trinidad catches Roy he will hurt him, that changes everything...I don't buy that Jones has a glass jaw though.

klion22
08-17-2007, 01:47 PM
i don't believe that, if Trinidad catches Roy he will hurt him, that changes everything...I don't buy that Jones has a glass jaw though.

Well, if Tito catches Jones with a perfect shot coming in, he will have a chance. But i'm talking just his overall power at this weight. It won't affect Jones that much.

Trinindad is simply fighting way above any weight he should be fighting in and it will show.

Tito Time
08-17-2007, 01:47 PM
How about this.. Anyone feel BHOP can KO Roy?

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:48 PM
How about this.. Anyone feel BHOP can KO Roy?

Yes!!!!!!

Caper
08-17-2007, 01:48 PM
It goes like this. Roy, stylistically, is a nightmare fight for Tito if there ever was one. Too much speed (even at this diminished state), reflexes, slickness, AND POWER. Tito has always had problems with boxers (BHOP, DLH, Winky, etc.), and Roy can outslick all those guys.

Roy is also natural at 175. Even when he fought at 160, he would come in the ring at damn near 180 lbs. He was the lineal champ, and one of the most dominant in the division's history. He also made the leap up to Heavy, and took a title there.

Sure Jones was stopped twice, but Tito was stopped at a lower weight class by an Old BHOP (he was old even then). He has also been dropped SEVERAL times at 147 and 154.

Tito, on the other hand, has fought at lower weight classes through the amatuers on to the pros (as low as 108 at one point). Sure he is MUCH bigger now, but his prime weight is still 154. In most of his bouts at 160, he never weighed more than 157-158.

Tito ate himself over the 200lb mark during his retirements, but that does not make him a light heavy now. He never would have beat RJJ prime for prime. RJ is not the smae, but he has been active and has won 2 fights in a row. Tito was last seen being used as Winky Wright's punching bag.

All of the above = Decimation of Tito. :good

Wow what a great summary of Roy and Tito......reading your assessment Roy should have been the greatest of all time and still can be, While Tito should have never stepped in the ring let alone become champ in three different weight classes. Roy should just get the win based on your analysis, why bother fighting when you have already told us the outcome. :p

compukiller
08-17-2007, 01:50 PM
Wow what a great summary of Roy and Tito......reading your assessment Roy should have been the greatest of all time and still can be, While Tito should have never stepped in the ring let alone become champ in three different weight classes. Roy should just get the win based on your analysis, why bother fighting when you have already told us the outcome. :p

Exactly, minus the alleged Tito Bashing:deal

Tito Time
08-17-2007, 01:52 PM
Wow what a great summary of Roy and Tito......reading your assessment Roy should have been the greatest of all time and still can be, While Tito should have never stepped in the rin g let alone become champ in three different weight classes. Roy should just get the win based on your analysis, why bother fighting when you have already told us the outcome. :p

:rofl :yep :rofl :yep :yep :rofl

Caper
08-17-2007, 01:57 PM
Exactly, minus the alleged Tito Bashing:deal

:rofl :rofl

IntentionalButt
08-17-2007, 02:09 PM
It goes like this. Roy, stylistically, is a nightmare fight for Tito if there ever was one. Too much speed (even at this diminished state), reflexes, slickness, AND POWER. Tito has always had problems with boxers (BHOP, DLH, Winky, etc.), and Roy can outslick all those guys.

Roy is also natural at 175. Even when he fought at 160, he would come in the ring at damn near 180 lbs. He was the lineal champ, and one of the most dominant in the division's history. He also made the leap up to Heavy, and took a title there.

Sure Jones was stopped twice, but Tito was stopped at a lower weight class by an Old BHOP (he was old even then). He has also been dropped SEVERAL times at 147 and 154.

Tito, on the other hand, has fought at lower weight classes through the amatuers on to the pros (as low as 108 at one point). Sure he is MUCH bigger now, but his prime weight is still 154. In most of his bouts at 160, he never weighed more than 157-158.

Tito ate himself over the 200lb mark during his retirements, but that does not make him a light heavy now. He never would have beat RJJ prime for prime. RJ is not the smae, but he has been active and has won 2 fights in a row. Tito was last seen being used as Winky Wright's punching bag.

All of the above = Decimation of Tito. :good

Good enough. I'll take your word.

ripcity
08-17-2007, 02:20 PM
Prime for prime Jones is to fast for Trinidad. Now I'm not sure what either guy can still do. The question is can not will Trinidad beat Jones. He has a beter chance now than before but I don't think he will beat Jones.

TheGreat
08-17-2007, 02:24 PM
Tito has fought 3 times since being raped by Bhops way back in 01, RJJ will easily win and he will likely stop tito as well. Everybody keeps saying what if Tito connects with this or that but let me ask this what happens when the much bigger and stronger Jones connects? This fight is a mismatch IMO.

jecxbox
08-17-2007, 03:26 PM
He landed flush on BHOP, and never hurt him. But BHOP is made of steel, I'll give you that.

He never really had decent punches land clean in that fight!..Bhop had him of balance so hard in that fight that Trinidad could never get his legs behind 1 single punch! If you think Trinidad ever hit Hopkins when 100% of his power behind it your sadly mistaken. Hopkins NEVER let him get his legs into a single punch. I think Trinidad has the power to hurt just about anyone, you just have to have a suicidal boxer whos going to sit in front of him and exchange punches..Not grapple maul headbutt and run! IM not taking ANYTHING away from Hopkins..He fought a masterful fight. If you all replay the Winky Wright fight..Trinidad still had A LOT of power on his hooks! Honestly replay the Winky/Tito fight and listen to the impact of some of the hooks that he was able to get his footing into..His power was there but his legs are S H O T ! ! ! If Roy sits on the ropes and lets Tito plant his legs and rip hooks...Roy will then quickly change his strategy because I know that Roy Jones is definitely underestimating Trinidads punching power. If you keep Tito off balance his power drops DRASTICALLY. But if you let him stand planted and you take a full blown shot you're dead and thats why at 147lbs he was a demon. If Roy tries to fight sloppy and careless like he likes to do I woudn't be suprised if he gets decked hard right on the chin.

Trinidads legs are definitely more shot than Roy Jones legs and thats why Roy is going to win..leg movement.

BewareofDawg
08-17-2007, 03:33 PM
first of all mayorga has one of the TOUGHEST, HARDEST chins in boxing! when he fought tito he had never been knocked out. tito came and knocked his ass out. for him to do that he had to have some kind of power! as far as winky, of course he would say that, tito hit nothing but forearm all night long.
Who gives a shit how tough he is. He is a natural 147lber!!!!

at1
08-17-2007, 03:37 PM
one thing about tito he comes to fight roy doesn't do good when people come to fight (glen johnson,tarver,grffin(1))he likes to box i think roy would look better vs winky tito puts alot of pressure on fighters winky and bhop have great D roy doesn't i say tito stops him tito is going to press the action all night long and stop him

jecxbox
08-17-2007, 03:42 PM
How about this.. Anyone feel BHOP can KO Roy?

Yes!!!!!!

If BHOP can KO Roy than Trinidad Definitely can KO Roy..I'm telling you Trinidad can punch harder than BHOP when he gets his legs planted..Compare what Hopkins/Taylor/Trinidad did to William Joppy...Tito Trinidad fucking raped Joppys soul knocking him down 5 times...

Tito Time
08-17-2007, 03:54 PM
If BHOP can KO Roy than Trinidad Definitely can KO Roy..I'm telling you Trinidad can punch harder than BHOP when he gets his legs planted..Compare what Hopkins/Taylor/Trinidad did to William Joppy...Tito Trinidad fucking raped Joppys soul knocking him down 5 times...

Exactly my point...

jecxbox
08-17-2007, 04:02 PM
well we know having punching power doesn't mean your gonna win the fight at all. I'm just saying Trinidad definitely has the punchers chance if Roy lets the man get his feet down. It just depends on how reckless and how much Roy underestimates Tito. And we know Roy Jones has too much Pride to give any boxer respect.

klion22
08-17-2007, 04:07 PM
Hey, did you guys know that this fight is going to be a 168 lbs? Just thought i would throw that in there in case people thought this was going to be at 154 or 160.

Tito Time
08-17-2007, 04:09 PM
well we know having punching power doesn't mean your gonna win the fight at all. I'm just saying Trinidad definitely has the punchers chance if Roy lets the man get his feet down. It just depends on how reckless and how much Roy underestimates Tito. And we know Roy Jones has too much Pride to give any boxer respect.

I just hope we don't see another Delachicken.... running for the last 4 rounds.... :lama

ayala
08-17-2007, 04:42 PM
but Mayorga has a chin of iron Tito just soften it up for Oscar Jones will find out if Tito can hit or not

TIGEREDGE
08-17-2007, 04:45 PM
WRONG. For two reasons, I say this.

Since he came back against Mayorga, his power has not been nearly as effective or strong. Just look how many CLEAN power shots he hit Mayorga with before the fight was finally stopped.

Winky Wright said he was shocked at how easily he could take Trinidads shots. He said early in the fight, he smiled to himself and thought "thats it, I thought this guy had power" :deal

Mayorga was a very tought mother fucker. but you could be right. Speed is power. when a guy loses it, his capability to knock guys out goes down

TIGEREDGE
08-17-2007, 04:46 PM
You never know. roy got destroyed a few years back by a very pedestrian fighter in glen johnson. but johnson was much bigger than tito

BigReg
08-17-2007, 04:48 PM
You never know. roy got destroyed a few years back by a very pedestrian fighter in glen johnson. but johnson was much bigger than tito

Glen Johnson is hardly pedestrian. Pay no attention to his record and actually watch the man fight. He's alot better than you think

Axe
08-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Who truly thinks Trinidad can beat Roy Jones Jr ?

Shot Tito has nothing more than a puncher's chance. But if that left hook lands on that chin of Roy's, who knows. :smoke

IntentionalButt
08-17-2007, 05:13 PM
You never know. roy got destroyed a few years back by a very pedestrian fighter in glen johnson. but johnson was much bigger than tito

If Glen Johnson is a pedestrian, eighteen-wheelers better roll with caution.

joito3
08-17-2007, 05:30 PM
Who gives a shit how tough he is. He is a natural 147lber!!!!

so is tito idiot

TIGEREDGE
08-17-2007, 05:31 PM
I APLOGISE. Its is wrong to call johnson ordinary
Johnson was Average in terms of speed and BOXING ability (COMPARED TO THE ELITE). he is very tough though and determined with good stamina and POWER

stillafan
08-17-2007, 06:45 PM
if i had to bet my house....HELL NO HE HAS HARDLY NO CHANCE!!!

but this is boxing, so i guess anything can happen...some people get hit with lightning many times in their lives...lol..but this fight is all RJJ...i cant beleive they signed it actually.....Totally wrong fight for Tito..

IntentionalButt
08-17-2007, 06:58 PM
I APLOGISE. Its is wrong to call johnson ordinary
Johnson was Average in terms of speed and BOXING ability (COMPARED TO THE ELITE). he is very tough though and determined with good stamina and POWER

Exactly, and it is those attributes that let him compete at the elite level with faster and more skilled boxers and hold his own. :good

BoxingGuru
08-17-2007, 07:33 PM
Beating Mayorga who doesn't belong at 160 and Glass Joppy doesn't mean jack shit. Tito has no power at 160. Did you see Glass Joppy run from Jermain Taylor when he got hit? That shows you, Tito has no power.

Tito is not even a middleweight much less a super middleweight or light heavyweight.

Jones by TKO.

jecxbox
08-18-2007, 02:28 AM
UGH , Trinidad is a total has been .. I wish he would just die so we could see Hopkins-Jones 2 ...

ORLY!!?!? Like everyone is dying to see Hopkins-Jones 2 so much more than Tito/Jones lmfao...none of it matters anyways!

C Money
08-18-2007, 02:54 AM
I'm shocked and amazed at a catch weight of 172:yikes All i can picture is a flabby and aged tito following Roy aimlessly and waving his hands for RJJ to come at him.

Trinidad is a prime welter and this would be a feat similar to something SRR or SRL would have attempted because they actually had the skill and styles to be competitive. Stylistically for Trinidad?? It's another NIGHTMARE for Tito, absolutely horrible!!! Jones is clearly at the advantage and the ONLY SHOT tito has is landing as Roy lays on the ropes, if he rope a dope's as he did with Hanshaw.

It seems Roy is choosing very wisely right now!!! This is an easy payday for him.

carras
08-18-2007, 03:24 AM
he has a puncher's chance, but it's unlikely

ayala
08-18-2007, 06:00 AM
I believe he has a chance Roy sits to much on the ropes and I still see Tito catching him.I don't think Tito is old and he hasn't gotten his head beat.Its understandable he got beat easy by Winky but I believe he took Winky lightly
and thought he beat him even if he didn't train because he rely on his power for that to much

Mundo
08-18-2007, 06:10 AM
WRONG. For two reasons, I say this.

Since he came back against Mayorga, his power has not been nearly as effective or strong. Just look how many CLEAN power shots he hit Mayorga with before the fight was finally stopped.

Winky Wright said he was shocked at how easily he could take Trinidads shots. He said early in the fight, he smiled to himself and thought "thats it, I thought this guy had power" :deal

yup. only the nuthuggers such as carlos and the_bitch thknk tito is still capalble of doing this. he isnt shit. his power was great at 147 and 154 and that was it. but sudenly his power is there regardless of the weight, cant wait to hear these faggots excuses.



"jones made tito go up in weight"




tons of bullshit





tito fough his balls out but seriously.....hes a fucking bitch. he loses and retires twice. he didnt get damaged. but he rather reitee just caue they were bad losses.



hes a fucking bitch. :good

joito3
08-18-2007, 06:39 AM
yup. only the nuthuggers such as carlos and the_bitch thknk tito is still capalble of doing this. he isnt shit. his power was great at 147 and 154 and that was it. but sudenly his power is there regardless of the weight, cant wait to hear these faggots excuses.



"jones made tito go up in weight"




tons of bullshit





tito fough his balls out but seriously.....hes a fucking bitch. he loses and retires twice. he didnt get damaged. but he rather reitee just caue they were bad losses.



hes a fucking bitch. :good

Mundo ? FTP !

Tito is going to thrash Jones ...Jones keeps his hands down to low and leaps in without throwing jabs ...Jones is an old man has no legs he is going to get tatooed by tito

Mundo
08-18-2007, 06:47 AM
Mundo ? FTP !

Tito is going to thrash Jones ...Jones keeps his hands down to low and leaps in without throwing jabs ...Jones is an old man has no legs he is going to get tatooed by tito

fuck you homo. you fucking tito fans think the moment he lands a clean shot its over. he aint shit. RJJ can keep his hands down and get hit CLEAN on the CHIN and you will see how overrrateD his power is.


people talk shit about how DLH RAN but he took clean shots and didnt go down. fuck tito. hes a fucking 1 dimensional fighter. thats it. hes going down. whoever want to bet money hit me up. im for real on this shit too




the_fag (the_what) wanna bet 100 on USC. vs UCLA?:deal

ironchamp
08-18-2007, 10:33 AM
I dont think its fair to undermine Trinidad in that way, calling him a has been, etc. He was a great Champion and he provided many exciting fights.

However, this is really a poor choice on Tito's behalf. If its money he should fight De la Hoya, Jermaine Taylor, Miranda - it would sell, but dont fight a stylistic nightmare. I applaud his mentality and for his sake I hope he has something up his sleeve but I dont expect him to win this fight at all.

koko of phil
08-18-2007, 11:11 AM
I don't. F**k I can't imagine.

Tito Time
08-18-2007, 11:22 AM
[quote=Mundo]fuck you homo. you fucking tito fans think the moment he lands a clean shot its over. he aint shit. RJJ can keep his hands down and get hit CLEAN on the CHIN and you will see how overrrateD his power is.


people talk shit about how DLH RAN but he took clean shots and didnt go down. fuck tito. hes a fucking 1 dimensional fighter. thats it. hes going down. whoever want to bet money hit me up. im for real on this shit too
:fuckoff ur such a hater...

Carlos Primera
08-18-2007, 11:56 AM
long shot, but it would be great if tito somehow manages to crack rjj's chin

jimmie
08-18-2007, 01:08 PM
I give him alittle chance like I would any fighter but its like a 2 percent chance.

tays001
08-18-2007, 01:25 PM
Not Me Tito Ko'd In 5

boxeo#1
08-18-2007, 01:31 PM
Noboby with common sense do :lol:

haha you're damn right dude

TheGreat
08-18-2007, 11:50 PM
RJJ by brutal stoppage in 7.

la-califa
08-19-2007, 12:49 AM
If Trinidad could last until the tenth round then go all out. Jones' stamina is gone as he in the late rounds is practically falling over his own feet. Also this is when Jones' jaw is at it's weakest point. A smart gameplan by Trinidad could pull it off. But Jones' natural strength advantage will be difficult to overcome.

jimmie
08-19-2007, 12:59 AM
If Trinidad could last until the tenth round then go all out. Jones' stamina is gone as he in the late rounds is practically falling over his own feet. Also this is when Jones' jaw is at it's weakest point. A smart gameplan by Trinidad could pull it off. But Jones' natural strength advantage will be difficult to overcome.

Trinidad smart gameplan ? :lol: Bro you know that wont happen.

chung
08-19-2007, 01:30 AM
whats the height difference?

1lehudson
08-19-2007, 01:32 AM
I don't. At least RJJ has been active and can outbox Tito even now if his stamina doesn't fail him.outbox my ass, he is going to stop Tito in the first half of the fight.:!:

Mind Reader
08-19-2007, 01:54 AM
Mayorga could take a big shot before Tito ruined him that night, and Forrest landed monster shots on him in the 1st fight and he didn't blink...shots that had Mosley stumbling around the ring like a rag doll...and Winky doesn't get hit flush, or with punches he doesn't see...i'm not saying Tito will be some massive hitter at 170, but if he lands flush he can hurt anyone 168-below...

I have to agree, I credit Mayorga's chin before I do Trinidad's loss of power.:good

Mind Reader
08-19-2007, 01:56 AM
If Trinidad could last until the tenth round then go all out. Jones' stamina is gone as he in the late rounds is practically falling over his own feet. Also this is when Jones' jaw is at it's weakest point. A smart gameplan by Trinidad could pull it off. But Jones' natural strength advantage will be difficult to overcome.


His best round of the Hanshaw fight was the 11th round.:good

Mind Reader
08-19-2007, 01:58 AM
If Trinidad could last until the tenth round then go all out. Jones' stamina is gone as he in the late rounds is practically falling over his own feet. Also this is when Jones' jaw is at it's weakest point. A smart gameplan by Trinidad could pull it off. But Jones' natural strength advantage will be difficult to overcome.

Allthough I have to agree with you, Roy's stamina is definitely not what it was.

chung
08-19-2007, 02:05 AM
will tito retire after th fight?