Leapai,Haumon,Demori,Briggs or Hoppa vs Botha WBF title

[melbboy]

botha won the WBF title,who do you think should take on Botha for the WBF World title & have it in Australia?

My choice is Leapai & 2nd Haumono,if alex trains the house down & be superfit he'll beat botha by KO & a good way to gain more confidence & experience.
we need a promoter & backings to bring it to OZ & what a way to boost the media of our heavies .

[JOE COOL]

Where is nigmanuns he would want Briggs for the title!

[Anenigma]

Where is nigmanuns he would want Briggs for the title!

Do you really want to continue down this path J or do you want to grow the fuck up:good

[buster007]

all of them probably lose to botha.

[Jambo]

I haven't seen Botha in a while, but you would have to assume even well past it, he would just be too experienced and too skilled for someone like Lepai.

[roscoe]

Botha would crush all of them even at his age now. He never fell easy in his prime & has way loads of experience over the lot of the Oz fighters.

[Jambo]

Mark de Mori could give it a decent crack, depending on how much he has progressed in his past few fights. Botha is 40 keep in mind and has been very inactive over the past few years.

[melbboy]

he's not the same as he was 8yrs go & if mirovic an go the distance with botha then our aussie boys can match him or btter.

[roscoe]

I'll be very surprised if any of them defeat botha, even if he is 40ish. None of them have had any career defining fight to put them in with a fighter of his experience.

[Jambo]

he's not the same as he was 8yrs go & if mirovic an go the distance with botha then our aussie boys can match him or btter.

Big Bob is very experienced but. There is also a big difference between surviving the full 12, and losing a massively wide decision, to actually beating a fighter of that calibre.

Pressure, which is how Lepai fights certainly wouldn't be the answer IMO. An experienced guy like Botha would just eat him up both inside and on the way in.

Someone who can make him move though, and keep a pace up that makes him uncomfortable would stand a very real chance. Botha's biggest weakness at this stage of his career would be his movement and workrate, which is what really needs to be exploited.

[melbboy]

Big Bob is very experienced but. There is also a big difference between surviving the full 12, and losing a massively wide decision, to actually beating a fighter of that calibre.

Pressure, which is how Lepai fights certainly wouldn't be the answer IMO. An experienced guy like Botha would just eat him up both inside and on the way in.

Someone who can make him move though, and keep a pace up that makes him uncomfortable would stand a very real chance. Botha's biggest weakness at this stage of his career would be his movement and workrate, which is what really needs to be exploited.what about haumono & briggs?

[ashley]

what about haumono & briggs?

Mate lots of great HW fights....as the title shows....I think Sol could win if he catches Briggs early...if not Briggs could come back and outwork him over 10 or 12 rounds.

I think the battle of the NRL would be a war...for a few rounds until someone got KTFO.

[Jambo]

what about haumono & briggs?

I think both could do very well, as well as De Mori.

Would be a tough fight for all three though. They would need to come in great shape, and work a tight gameplan.

The reason i picked De Mori out of the bunch was because of his recent big win against a slower yet more experienced guy, and what would appear to be great conditioning in recent times. I think realistically the guys you mentioned would also have a good shot.

[Jambo]

Mate lots of great HW fights....as the title shows....I think Sol could win if he catches Briggs early...if not Briggs could come back and outwork him over 10 or 12 rounds.

I think the battle of the NRL would be a war...for a few rounds until someone got KTFO.

I don't think Briggs has THAT bad a chin to be honest. Times i've seen him KD, its been more to do with conditioning than anything else. If Briggs can come to the ring in superb shape every time, i guarantee he will be much harder to hurt. That said, we haven't really seen Sol tested either. Maybe he can lift another level??

Great matchup.

[melbboy]

I don't think Briggs has THAT bad a chin to be honest. Times i've seen him KD, its been more to do with conditioning than anything else. If Briggs can come to the ring in superb shape every time, i guarantee he will be much harder to hurt. That said, we haven't really seen Sol tested either. Maybe he can lift another level??

Great matchup.well said :good

[Anenigma]

I don't think Briggs has THAT bad a chin to be honest. Times i've seen him KD, its been more to do with conditioning than anything else. If Briggs can come to the ring in superb shape every time, i guarantee he will be much harder to hurt. That said, we haven't really seen Sol tested either. Maybe he can lift another level??

Great matchup.

In 45 pro k/boxing fights and 25 pro boxing fights Briggs has never been knocked out cold, he has been dropped a few times in boxing but all late in the fights because of conditioning.
He came out of the same womb at the same time as Paul Briggs why would he have a weaker chin, he turned up fit against Wilson in his last fight and was never hurt in 12 rds.

Sol in the gym is the best Heavyweight in Australia but he has yet to show that in the ring yet, his next fight with Wilson will show if he can take it from the gym to the ring.

[JOE COOL]

i thought Briggs had 42 kick fights >

[Anenigma]

Botha isn't the same fighter he used to be, I think Leapai, Haumona, Briggs and Demori would give him a run, he doesn't take a punch the same as he used to either all of our guys are young and hungry, Botha is setting up his retirement fund.

[Anenigma]

i thought Briggs had 42 kick fights >


Touché, I stand corrected grasshopper:patsch

[BIG FELLA]

Why would any decent fighter fight for the WBF shit belt. Its a disgrace of an organisation and a real blemish on the sport.

[JOE COOL]

Big Fella if you are or arent or never were a fighter this organisation gives the guy who would never win a normal title a chance to win one of these WBF world champ they can never take that away what ever you or i think.

[JOE COOL]

i think leapai would be the most exp to take on botha.

[melbboy]

In 45 pro k/boxing fights and 25 pro boxing fights Briggs has never been knocked out cold, he has been dropped a few times in boxing but all late in the fights because of conditioning.
He came out of the same womb at the same time as Paul Briggs why would he have a weaker chin, he turned up fit against Wilson in his last fight and was never hurt in 12 rds.

Sol in the gym is the best Heavyweight in Australia but he has yet to show that in the ring yet, his next fight with Wilson will show if he can take it from the gym to the ring.:good

[melbboy]

Botha isn't the same fighter he used to be, I think Leapai, Haumona, Briggs and Demori would give him a run, he doesn't take a punch the same as he used to either all of our guys are young and hungry, Botha is setting up his retirement fund.ur on the money, botha reading on reports he isn't the same,overweight,doesn't pack the punching power he once had & his last fight was slow sloppy with the ref boiling over both of them holding constantly in each round also he has lost 4 times via KO in K1 from right overhangs,could be advantage to our boys to use the right or left overhangs if connected well to the temple i think haumono does the overhangs i'm sure of it:huh

[melbboy]

Big Fella if you are or arent or never were a fighter this organisation gives the guy who would never win a normal title a chance to win one of these WBF world champ they can never take that away what ever you or i think.
JOE COOL thats 110% right,if they've trained hard for it & win it doesn't matter the organization then they deserve it:good:good:thumbsup:thumbsup:happy:happy

[LeonMcS]

Those big overhangs to the head sure can be devastating.

[bushboy]

Nothing like a hard overhang

[LeonMcS]

True, but sneaky upperpunts can be quite effective as well.

[ipswich express]

Unless you've been left booked, you wouldn't know.

[Phil Austin]

Means nothing if you don't have a good left tab to set it all up

[LeonMcS]

I want to see melbboy and kronky here at the same time, this shit cannot be for real...

[stingray7]

maybe i'm going senile but i'm sure i saw nathan briggs ko'd in a televised kickboxing tournament a number of years back.He looks a whole heap better since paul has been training him

[melbboy]

maybe i'm going senile but i'm sure i saw nathan briggs ko'd in a televised kickboxing tournament a number of years back.He looks a whole heap better since paul has been training himyeah i agree he's done very well with paul as his trainer:good, but can he beat botha at this present time with paul?

[BIG FELLA]

JOE COOL thats 110% right,if they've trained hard for it & win it doesn't matter the organization then they deserve it:good:good:thumbsup:thumbsup:happy:happy

Well WBF = WBC IBF WBA Does it

Thats like comparing a shit sandwich and 5 course Meal. :patsch:patsch:deal

[melbboy]

Well WBF = WBC IBF WBA Does it

Thats like comparing a shit sandwich and 5 course Meal. :patsch:patsch:deal:lol::lol::lol::lol: why don't you say that to francois botha:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: thought so he'll probably give you this :!:.

[JOE COOL]

i was looking at dexter dunworth at 53 he would give all aussie heavyweights a run.

[melbboy]

Question - Do we rate bowie tupou as an aussie heavy because he fought under lewis for 8 solid months?
&
- Who would of trained Haumono if bowie was still with lewis?

[BIG FELLA]

You 2 are dead set idiots, Dunworth is a joke. And Botha is shit also.

WBF is the most laughed about belt in boxing, Amongst fighters it is laughed about as a dud. And fans all now it is a dud also. It is just a stain on the sport of Boxing. Only a fighter who has no faith in his own ability to win a legit title would fight for it.

[ipswich express]

I disagree...it's above the food chain than the IBC and WBB :)

[BIG FELLA]

I disagree...it's above the food chain than the IBC and WBB :)

Barely above them:roll::roll:

[ipswich express]

And the IBA. :)

[melbboy]

I disagree...it's above the food chain than the IBC and WBB :)
it pisses all over the IBC & WBB having more former champs like tarver,jones,bugner,calloway,thunder etc Lewis & Morrison fought for the IBC:good

[old man]

I can,t see what all the fuss is with Francois Botha he is rated 51 in the world.... and 40 years old

[ipswich express]

I suppose cos he still has a name, and he represents a good pay day.

[melbboy]

in papers botha got $150 000.00US plus a lump pay from sth-afrca sponsor

[old man]

Big Bob got sweet FA for going over there and fighting .
Why would others want to go?
I remember reading how Gary St Clair was treated when he also went over to fight for a wbf titlle he said he was ill treated and starved and couldn,t wait to leave.I know of plenty of our fighters that have fought in South Africa and I have never known one that has had a good outcome... If you'se do..........Name one

[ipswich express]

John Tate and Mike Weaver...

[old man]

Talking about Australians Ippy
Ali got a better outcome than your two.

[melbboy]

Big Bob got sweet FA for going over there and fighting .
Why would others want to go?
I remember reading how Gary St Clair was treated when he also went over to fight for a wbf titlle he said he was ill treated and starved and couldn,t wait to leave.I know of plenty of our fighters that have fought in South Africa and I have never known one that has had a good outcome... If you'se do..........Name one100% they should bring it to Australia get treated better:good & generate more money than in sth-afrca they might shoot you if KO botha

[ipswich express]

Talking about Australians Ippy
Ali got a better outcome than your two.

Muhammad or Funeka? :huh

[ipswich express]

I thought we were talking South Africa.

[ipswich express]

Talking about Australians Ippy
Ali got a better outcome than your two.

Jimmy Carruthers twice.
St Claire once.
I know Les Sherrington loved his time over there and would go back in a heart beat.

[old man]

Ippy name me one Australian born fighter that has won a proffessional fight in Sth Africa in the last 50 years?

[ipswich express]

How many times are we going to shift the goal posts :)

[11player]

Hey mates, just tell me this, out of these prospects, Tupou, Leapai, Haumono, DeMori, who's got more upside?

[melbboy]

Hey mates, just tell me this, out of these prospects, Tupou, Leapai, Haumono, DeMori, who's got more upside?i think all of them are good & evenly matched:good

[bushboy]

Haumono-Best natural talent

Leapai-Tough bastard

Tupou-Shown the best improvement considering his experience

De Mori-Shown the best initiative by fighting in US

Hard to put one ahead of another but I'd say Leapai and Tupou have the best prospects, Bowie has the best competition and a great training team while leapai seems willing to fight anyone

[melbboy]

Haumono-Best natural talent

Leapai-Tough bastard

Tupou-Shown the best improvement considering his experience

De Mori-Shown the best initiative by fighting in US

Hard to put one ahead of another but I'd say Leapai and Tupou have the best prospects, Bowie has the best competition and a great training team while leapai seems willing to fight anyone:good 100% m8

[11player]

Thanks a lot.

Haumono - His career is still going slow it seems.

Leapai - Reminds me a lil bit of Tua, could add something else to his arsenal bc he is looking rather one dimensional, would be nice for his career if he managed to land a fight with Hoppa next, for the Aussie title.

Tupou - Guy is physicaly very imposing, but isn't he crossing the line a litle and putting on too much weight? 270lbs plus on a 6'2" frame seems a bit excessive. Is there a video of him fighting somewhere?

De Mori - Has improved quite a lot, body, footwork, quickness, would be helpfull if he could work some more on his power.

[JOE COOL]

I agree what a fight Leapai vs Sol or Hoppa KO time!

[JOE COOL]

i think if Demori could step up it would make it interesting and to see if he can make the next step against the likes of Wilson,Leapai,Briggs,Sol ,Hoppa,Bob,Kirby i know he is rated quite high but hasnt fought any of our top liners yet .

[ipswich express]

Melbboy, I guess Kim Heta would be chasing a rematch with ****** Whitehead after being dusted over 10 rounds? Close scrap apparently.

[melbboy]

Melbboy, I guess Kim Heta would be chasing a rematch with ****** Whitehead after being dusted over 10 rounds? Close scrap apparently.yep not happy :-(& didnt perform to his ability he'll bounce back, honestly cruiser is his weight division but won't get pass tauasa, vea, withers etc he'l bounce bk

[LeonMcS]

What happened, not enough overhangs?