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streetsaresafer
08-17-2007, 05:56 PM
Who wins this matchup and why?

I favor Tyson 2/1 oddswise but let me explain -

This would probably be one of the most brutal heavyweight fights in history (think Hagler-Hearns for heavies) - two of the most offensive minded heavyweights we've seen and both guys had real firepower. Tyson certainly had more one punch power than Bowe, and hit a bit harder, but Bowe had very good power nontheless. Bowe had every punch, particularly a great uppercut.

I have been working my way through Bowe's fights from 89-92 and am constantly impressed by how many punches Bowe throws per round and how aggressive he was. No doubt Bowe's weakness was his defense, he could definitely be hit. But he fought an aggressive style that allowed him to try and bomb off on the inside. And Bowe had an excellent jab when he used it. Bowe's fight against Tyrell Biggs I found particularly impressive - he was very agressive the whole fight coming forward, used his jab when needed, and eventually put Biggs out by the 8th round.

Bowe's win against Holyfield in 92 is certainly his peak, but he had quite a few fights before that where he looked impressive. I know the knock is he was not in with many big punchers, but Bowe's skills speak for themselves. Not only was he great offensively, but he had a really good chin. Bowe did bob and weave some, moved his head a bit so he wasn't completely oblivious to defense.

The Tyson of 88 certainly needs little explaining except to say that he was one of the most impressive heavy's I've ever seen and still believe 88 Tyson would have a live shot against any ATG heavy. Unbelievable combination of speed and power.

Now how does this matchup go? Like I said, I favor Tyson 2/1 odds wise. I'd say Tyson takes this by 6th round KO. Both guys would score big, both could take a punch, in fact I see both guys getting knocked down a distinct possibility. I just don't see this going to the cards. Bowe would give Tyson potentially a lot of problems on the inside, but Tyson at mid range would be deadly. Bowe's chin and Tyson's chin would make this a longer fight than the bombs landed would indicate. But overall Tyson's defense in his prime was significantly better than Bowe's, and Tyson would eventually decimate Bowe with a combination that puts him out.

So I say Tyson by 6th round KO in a fight that would be like Hagler/Hearns for heavies.

So what say you?

heerko koois
08-17-2007, 05:57 PM
:yep Tyson ko 3 RB.........

Sweet Science
08-17-2007, 06:01 PM
Tyson by spectacular 3rd round KO. I think Tyson would love Bowe coming at him attempting to trade. Tyson's superior combination punching and ferocious speed would be the telling difference between the two.

DamonD
08-17-2007, 06:05 PM
I would have to favour Tyson to score the knockout...simply for the fact that, while Bowe has the right tools to outbox Mike, I think he'd be looking to go toe-to-toe and trade.

I'm sure Futch would be trying like crazy to convince Bowe to stick with his jab and tie Mike up to begin with, before pouring on the heavy firepower in the second half of the fight. But Bowe would just want to slug, I feel.

And slugging with '88 Tyson is not a very good idea.

Tyson by stoppage in 6 rounds or so seems a pretty reasonable prediction to me. I just can't trust Bowe to fight the right way to beat Mike. While this should be a style matchup in favour of Bowe, it's his mentality that's the problem.

Marnoff
08-17-2007, 06:24 PM
Tyson. Knockout.

streetsaresafer
08-19-2007, 07:38 PM
bump

Bad_Intentions
08-19-2007, 07:56 PM
tyson KO 8th round

Jear
08-19-2007, 08:27 PM
Hm, Tyson had the habit to do nothing on the inside and Bowe was a great infighter. So, i wouldn´t count out the Bowe of the first Holy-fight completly but i would go with Tyson inside 5 rounds.


Got to agree with you regarding Tyson inside. He liked to fight at midrange.

Id back Tyson to get this one, but Bowe can beat him from outside or outwork him inside and Big Daddy threw great uppercuts which are Mikes kryptonite.
Tyson would probably land at mid range enough to shake Riddick but would have to finish him or it could be a tough night for him

Longhhorn71
08-19-2007, 09:17 PM
I see Tyson as the "constant" in the equation.

If Bowe is a bigger stronger version of Buster Douglas, then why wouldn't the result be the same with Tyson flailing around down on the canvas trying to put his mouthpiece back in?

mightyd40
08-19-2007, 09:46 PM
the tyson in 88 wasnt exactly lazy on the inside like u guys make it seem either...sure recently he was willing to hold but back then it seemed everytime mike was tied up he would shoot a nasty combination to the stomach and a huge uppercut between the guard.

about the topic though...i would pick tyson by ko within 5

brooklyn1550
08-19-2007, 09:59 PM
Tyson by KO

Holmes' Jab
08-20-2007, 03:36 AM
Tyson, by mid-stoppage. Bowe has a chance if he doesn't slug toe-toe, but I think he would.

fists of fury
08-20-2007, 04:20 AM
I always thought Bowe would give Tyson a lot of trouble with his size and inside game, but I think it was Nick Hudson who posted some of Bowe's opponents connect percentage, and most of them were above 50%. That was a rather startling statistic.

If Tyson was to land more than 50% of his punches vs. basically anyone, the fight would not last long.
Tyson, inside of 6 rounds.

Titan1
08-20-2007, 05:01 PM
Tyson fifth round TKO

anut
08-21-2007, 07:46 PM
Bowe Was Too Easy Too Hit........shit Peirre Coetzer Landed At Ease And Coetzer As No Tyson.....tyson By 7th Rd Tko

bigG
08-21-2007, 08:50 PM
bowe liked to brawl, was great on the inside and had no discernible defence, but a great chin...it all comes down to how hard mikey hits and how good bowes chin is.....tyson never was a one punch ko artist, it was speed x power x accuracy x volume with him...i doubt he would catch bowe with a barrage of shots...i think mikes come forward bobbing weaving style is made for bowes infighting prowess and would expect bowe to stop tyson around the 8th round in an exciting give and take war....

Lacyace
08-22-2007, 12:49 AM
Guess I'll be the only one taking Bowe (by UD) then.

bigG
08-22-2007, 06:31 AM
i pick bowe too bro.....just by stoppage..

godking
08-22-2007, 12:47 PM
Tyson Bowe has little to no defense and could be hit at will. Tyson for an infighter had very good defense .

Tyson by late Ko or wide ud .

redrooster
08-23-2007, 10:59 AM
Bowe by late round ko. This was no Pinklon Thomas. You all haven't seen the best of Bowe and Mike wouldn't be able to keep up with him. Besides, who ever knocked out Bowe?

Bummy Davis
08-23-2007, 11:10 AM
Tyson by KO

DamonD
08-23-2007, 11:53 AM
Bowe by late round ko. This was no Pinklon Thomas. You all haven't seen the best of Bowe and Mike wouldn't be able to keep up with him. Besides, who ever knocked out Bowe?
Considering Bowe fought exactly 1, count it, 1 puncher of genuine HW power in Herbie Hide...that's a bit of a hollow boast.

He got rocked to his boots and floored by Holyfield, wobbled by Biggs, hurt and staggered by Hide, just plain mashed to bits by Golota...you don't think Tyson can knock him out?

Muchmoore
08-23-2007, 04:19 PM
This is a horrible matchup for Bowe. His defense was average and he got hit quite a lot in most of his fight against contenders. If Tyson is able to land regulary you have no chance of winning. Bowe is a good inside fighter but Tyson was incredibly strong on the inside and clinched so they couldn't get off punches.

Bowe gets hurt by Tyson in the 2nd, or 3rd round and Tyson finishes him.

Executioner
08-23-2007, 09:28 PM
Tyson would really smash Bowe

Cojimar 1945
08-24-2007, 02:16 AM
I don't see why people would favor Bowe. Bowe avoided the divisions big punchers and was not great defensively or extremely durable.

redrooster
08-24-2007, 08:48 AM
Considering Bowe fought exactly 1, count it, 1 puncher of genuine HW power in Herbie Hide...that's a bit of a hollow boast.

He got rocked to his boots and floored by Holyfield, wobbled by Biggs, hurt and staggered by Hide, just plain mashed to bits by Golota...you don't think Tyson can knock him out?

its possible tho i've never seen it done.


88 was a good year for mike but i knew little mike spinks was no match for him so i'm not influenced into thinking he was any better than he was the year before or the year after. Mike didn't look so good in the Smith fight or the one he had with Tucker and Bowe, neither of them in the same class as Bowe.

redrooster
08-24-2007, 08:50 AM
I don't see why people would favor Bowe. Bowe avoided the divisions big punchers and was not great defensively or extremely durable.


Neither was Mike. Douglas ko 10 Tyson

streetsaresafer
08-24-2007, 08:06 PM
Tyson absolutely dominating the voting.

I wonder if this fight happened in January of 92 would the voting be closer.

Sonny Carson
08-24-2007, 09:44 PM
If Bowe wasn't durable why didn't Golota take him out.

The 88 Tyson would beat Bowe but it would be by decision.

streetsaresafer
09-04-2007, 04:50 PM
How about a 91 Tyson v. a 91 Bowe?

Result any different?

I imagine the voting would be closer but Tyson would still take it clearly