View Full Version : Working the same muscle groups on consecutive days.
Brady
02-11-2009, 05:12 PM
I have always been told that rest is needed in order to build muscle, but what if the trainee is not trying to build muscle? Are there any positive benefits from training everyday or does overworking the muscles just an injury risk? Say I train every muscle group for 4 days and take 3 days off where I only do light cardio and stretching. Are there any strength or endurance gains there, or is it just better to alternate the muscle groups?
cockneyhardman
02-11-2009, 11:54 PM
I have always been told that rest is needed in order to build muscle, but what if the trainee is not trying to build muscle? Are there any positive benefits from training everyday or does overworking the muscles just an injury risk? Say I train every muscle group for 4 days and take 3 days off where I only do light cardio and stretching. Are there any strength or endurance gains there, or is it just better to alternate the muscle groups?
hypertrophy or max strength training should not be done on consecutive days
but endurance can and also power training(light/medium weights without going to failure)
boxbible
02-12-2009, 01:37 AM
If you keep strength training muscle tissue everyday, it'll begin to cannibalize itself, reducing muscle size, strength... everything.
Which is what maybe Chris Byrd and DLH did to reduce weight in their last fights.
Brady
02-12-2009, 03:43 PM
Interesting. Thanks guys. I got the idea from reading about James Braddock who, during his first retirement, greatly strengthened his left arm by working at the docks. I figure he worked it every day and wondered if that could be duplicated.
smellmyfinger
02-18-2009, 05:13 AM
It can have some merit if done right. But u can only do it for short periods of time to shock yuor body.
But dont do something like a full chest workout and then back it up the next day. It needs to be more of a full body weights session, or just upperbody. A 50 minute pump of chest/shoulders/back followed up the next day, then rest day, then do it again can rip u up. But only do it for 2 or 3 weeks max to shock yourself. And the second day should be a little lighter and higher reps.
boxingtactics07
02-18-2009, 02:04 PM
Hmm. In my opinion I would classify manual labor as GPP training rather than strength training. This kind of training is way more beneficial for a boxer than just pure strength training. That's why all of the oldschool boxers didn't have to lift barbells and dumbbells, because they were too busy lifting all of these random heavy ass awkward objects for 8+ hours a day. IMO I think that still stands for today too. If you work somewhere lazy or light, strength training becomes a necessary add-on (not replacement) for your boxing training. If you do manual labor for 40+ hours a week, the oldschool basics are all you really need. As for James Braddock - he had a broken right hand (didn't he?) and had to use his left hand primarily (despite being a righty). Frequency + Specificity of an exercise (any exercise) will get you stronger in that department (IE: using his left hand all the time for work). My 2 cents.
I work the muscle group between my toes and my neck nearly every day :D
boxbible
02-18-2009, 09:01 PM
I work the muscle group between my toes and my neck nearly every day :D
You can work that muscle out 2-3 times a day, at least...
Or so I've been told... :oops:
You can work that muscle out 2-3 times a day, at least...
Or so I've been told... :oops:
:lol: :lol:
scurlaruntings
02-19-2009, 07:03 PM
If you keep strength training muscle tissue everyday, it'll begin to cannibalize itself, reducing muscle size, strength... everything.
Which is what maybe Chris Byrd and DLH did to reduce weight in their last fights.Bingo. Infact its counter productive. Im sure both DLH and Byrd were on carb free diets to get that low aswell.
And they both got their asses kicked as well :)
JMonster
03-23-2009, 03:20 AM
honestly...i had physical therapy and my orthopedic doctor told me that working out everyday is ok and should be done for people around my age (20). he explained to me that the reason y most ppl usually say to not do it everyday is because that rule was made for ATHLETES who sometimes train for 6-8 hours everyday. i asked him what about w/ lifting weights for 2 hours every work out and he said go for it everday.
PERSONALLY
don't work out until you are uncomfortable!!!! test your body and push it lightly. until the age around 24-25 (sometimes younger or even older) your testosterone levels and everything decrease and u won't be able to. PLUS the fact that around that age most of us will have 40 hr a week jobs and possible kids PLUS possibly wife/husband (for u amy since i KNOW ur a girl lol) so my view is sort of work it while u have it so u won't be shit out of luck when ur older worrying about ur gut
atleast do body weight exercises in between the days of weight lifting and i'm sure u will still have a great work out the next day
MrSmall
03-23-2009, 09:13 AM
If you keep strength training muscle tissue everyday, it'll begin to cannibalize itself, reducing muscle size, strength... everything.
Which is what maybe Chris Byrd and DLH did to reduce weight in their last fights.
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalse.
Primadonna Kool
04-02-2009, 02:27 PM
hmmmmm
Rakim
04-30-2009, 07:38 AM
I've got a question on the same subject. I've bodged myself together a pull-up bar at work, will it do me any good to do 3x5 pullups for 5 days in a row? Or would I develop quicker by leaving a days rest between each lot?
Primadonna Kool
04-30-2009, 07:50 AM
Trainning is a damaging proccess, so....
Smash it for 1 day, and then have a rest day.,."recovery and repair"
You could string together 5 days of average trainning, but i would rather go mental for one day.
Then recover...
I'm gonna go mental today..
GPater11093
04-30-2009, 05:25 PM
Hmm. In my opinion I would classify manual labor as GPP training rather than strength training. This kind of training is way more beneficial for a boxer than just pure strength training. That's why all of the oldschool boxers didn't have to lift barbells and dumbbells, because they were too busy lifting all of these random heavy ass awkward objects for 8+ hours a day. IMO I think that still stands for today too. If you work somewhere lazy or light, strength training becomes a necessary add-on (not replacement) for your boxing training. If you do manual labor for 40+ hours a week, the oldschool basics are all you really need. As for James Braddock - he had a broken right hand (didn't he?) and had to use his left hand primarily (despite being a righty). Frequency + Specificity of an exercise (any exercise) will get you stronger in that department (IE: using his left hand all the time for work). My 2 cents.
yeh he broke his right hand. but he was a boxer who was right hand happy. He then retired because of his hand but couldnt make money in the depression so kept fighting with a bad right hand which forced him to use his left which he did. and it helped him become a HW champ
GNARL
05-01-2009, 04:21 AM
For an average strength workout, it takes 24-48 hours to fully recover. This time can be spent working on other body systems, drills, endurance training, full rest, or some easy light activity. But in no means should you back to do a maximal strenght workout for your lower body two days in a row. That is asking for injury.
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