View Full Version : who stands the best chance?
mbrockett
02-12-2009, 01:56 AM
With 4 of England's marquee names set up for big fights where arguably they are all underdogs - who if any has a chance of winning? or do u think this could be a terrible few months for english boxing?
Hatton v Pacquiao
Haye v Klitschko
Froch v Taylor
Khan v Barrera
Hate to say it, but i think Khan stands the best chance, and i think hatton could do it too. haye and froch are the 2 guys i would like to see win but i dont think they will.
9Ball
02-12-2009, 02:05 AM
Hatton v Pacquiao
I see Hatton losing this valiantly on points
Haye v Klitschko
Haye to win by huge KO in the mid rounds
Froch v Taylor
Froch on points or possibly a late KO
Khan v Barrera
Barrera by KO and it could be in round 1 thru 12 (is it a 12 rounder??)
jamie30002000
02-12-2009, 04:40 AM
Three of them have a high chance of being KO'd or stopped were as Froch as near enough no chance of been stopped by Taylor who I feel isn't a big puncher at Super Middleweight. Would have to say Froch as the best chance on that basis.
Really looking forward to these 60/40 or 50/50 matchups....
Power
02-12-2009, 04:47 AM
im gunning for all our boys to win except hatton, hope he pulls a massive upset though.
what a great year for english boxing though. imagine if jennings wins as well!
In order of best to least chance...
Khan
Haye
Froch
Hatton
I don't think much seperates them. Khan seems like a 50/50. Haye and Froch are probably 60/40 underdogs. Hatton's a 70/30 underdog IMO. :smoke
SteelTownCobra
02-12-2009, 05:50 AM
I think it's possible to argue a case for all 4 British winners in all 4 fights.
They are all pick em fights.
If I had the time I would present an argument for each but I'm presently far too busy working for truth and justice, doing good deeds to others, and trying to turn this countries woeful economic situation around.
robpalmer135
02-12-2009, 05:56 AM
I think we will win all 4. Froch and Haye have to much for Taylor and Wlad. There to up for the fight and Taylor and Wlad are not. taylor and wlad also think haye and froch are just bangers, but in truth there very skilled fighters. they totally under estimate them. also taylor has only had 1 fight at SMW, and Froch has been there his whole career, taylor has fougth allot of guys smaller than him, frochs a beat.
hatton will beat manny pac, i rate manny high and dont rate hatton but this is a total mis match due to the size of hatton. dont let the diaz and de la hoya fights full you, diaz is c class fighter and de la hoya is shot to shit especially at welter.
khan vs barrera, this is 50-50, whats barerra got left. barerra can bang and if khan has not seriously improved since gomez (same size as barrera) then Khan will get destroyed. but as allot of you know i rate khan.
dwilson
02-12-2009, 06:04 AM
Hatton will probably get stopped.
Haye will get KTFO early.
Taylor is not like by anyone but me so I pick Froch to lose on points.
Barrera is old and will get a a dodgy save giving Khan an amazing win.
Decebal
02-12-2009, 06:05 AM
In my view, here's the chances of the British lads:
Khan v Barrera: 60%
Haye v Klitschko: 35%
Froch v Taylor: 20%
Hatton v Pacquiao: 20%
Hatton will probably get stopped.
Haye will get KTFO early.
Taylor is not like by anyone but me so I pick Froch to lose on points.
Barrera is old and will get a a dodgy save giving Khan an amazing win.
Excellent predictions :good
Benjiabc
02-12-2009, 07:51 AM
khan and hatton both win,
the other two will lose
TommyV
02-12-2009, 07:54 AM
With 4 of England's marquee names set up for big fights where arguably they are all underdogs - who if any has a chance of winning? or do u think this could be a terrible few months for english boxing?
Hatton v Pacquiao
Haye v Klitschko
Froch v Taylor
Khan v Barrera
Hate to say it, but i think Khan stands the best chance, and i think hatton could do it too. haye and froch are the 2 guys i would like to see win but i dont think they will.
Khan should be the favourite. Barrera's a natural super-bantam/feather and is completely shot, Khan get's absolutely no credit from me if he wins. The fact this is being talked up as a title eliminator is a joke.
Hatton will beat Pacquiao. I'm sure of it. Haye also stands a great chance of upsetting Klitschko. Froch probably has the least chance, but Taylor's been stopped before.
All have a good chance of pulling of some great wins (apart from Khan).
SouthpawSlayer
02-12-2009, 07:57 AM
in order
khan
hatton
froch
haye
brickfists
02-12-2009, 05:03 PM
froch
MightyLondoner
02-12-2009, 07:51 PM
In my view, here's the chances of the British lads:
Khan v Barrera: Barrera looks like he could be well and truly shot so Khan is definately a favourite in this one. He has a excellent chance.
Haye v Klitschko: As much as I like Haye I can't see him winning this one, He does have a chance but if Wlad lands it could be lights out.
Froch v Taylor: Great opportunity for The "Cobra" can he do it? well had this took place in the UK then i would say yes, he would have the crowd behind him and i think that would of affected Taylor but i don't fancy him in this one.
Hatton v Pacquiao: I genuinely have this as a 50-50, Pacman is still unproven at the weight and i think Hatton has the power to hurt the filipino, This is the Hitmans final chance to shut the doubters up (Mainly Yanks) and show the world that he really is a boxing legend.
tonysoprano
02-12-2009, 07:54 PM
Hatton v Pacquiao
Haye v Klitschko
Froch v Taylor
Khan v Barrera
Pacquiao, Hatton allways had trouble getting out of the way of shots against southpaws, Pacman is to fast and powerfull, i hope Hatton proves me wrong, i hope Mayweather sr can come up with a good strategy.
Klitschko, Too big for Haye, will stop him from round 5 onwards.
Froch, Too powerfull and too Hungry for Taylor.
Khan and Barrera is a tough one, Barrera is past it and never boxed up at lightweight competitivly but has lots more experience. Khan is fast but has a glass jaw. If Barrera has anything left he could knock Khan out at any time.
icemax
02-12-2009, 08:12 PM
Khan, Hatton, Froch IMO are shoe-ins....take that to the bank:deal
Khan will stick on the outside and run Barrera to a standstill...either a fairly humiliating wide UD for Khan or lateish sympathetic stoppage.
Pacs career over the past 18 months has been all smoke and mirrors, and he certainly hasn't proved himself above 130 against a live opponent. The first body attack by the much stronger Hatton will show us all we need to know....shockingly early stoppage for the Hitman.
Froch will win by sheer force of will...he has the power to trouble Taylor, and the chin so as not to be troubled himself. Late stoppage for the Notts Bod.
Haye/Wlad is way too close to call...both have supposedly suspect chins but I think that chinnage in this fight is a moot point as both have immense power and are capable of knocking even the most granite chinned fighter out. The first to land properly wins...if you are going, make sure that you are back from the bar or bogs at the opening bell because you may miss it.
Realspitts
02-12-2009, 09:00 PM
khan
hatton
haye
froch
thespecialone
02-13-2009, 08:03 AM
I think Froch has a really good chance of stopping Taylor
Hagler/Pryor
02-13-2009, 08:25 AM
Khan by a long way, in my view.
Realspitts
02-13-2009, 05:53 PM
I think Froch has a really good chance of stopping Taylor
of course you do. froch has looked absolutely fantastic shining off of C+ level fighters and has never faced a high caliber fighter like JT.
and at the same time JT seen everything froch has to offer before.
tonysoprano
02-13-2009, 07:20 PM
of course you do. froch has looked absolutely fantastic shining off of C+ level fighters and has never faced a high caliber fighter like JT.
and at the same time JT seen everything froch has to offer before.
JT is no superstar, he was good against Hopkins and thats it
icemax
02-13-2009, 08:28 PM
and at the same time JT seen everything froch has to offer before.
He has...and Pavlik was looking down on him when he saw it.:hey Taylor isn't all that now, and never has been.....christ, the man wouldn't even get on a plane to take a fight that you and others think he wins "easily". Mark my words by insisting on fighting in the US it is obvious that Taylor is looking for a hometown decision.....if its got feathers, clucks, and eats corn its a chicken :deal
Realspitts
02-13-2009, 10:05 PM
He has...and Pavlik was looking down on him when he saw it.:hey Taylor isn't all that now, and never has been.....christ, the man wouldn't even get on a plane to take a fight that you and others think he wins "easily". Mark my words by insisting on fighting in the US it is obvious that Taylor is looking for a hometown decision.....if its got feathers, clucks, and eats corn its a chicken :deal
froch=pavlik :nut
dont even try and compare the level of competiton between the 2. JT is a proven fighter and froch is a dud without a wick.
and btw, taylor bounced back from that brutal KO, made adjustments and went 12 rounds in the 2nd fight. many (including myself) thought that he was done and would ever be the same after. and based on that performance along with the lacy blowout is all i need to know....... TALYOR WIDE UD.
Realspitts
02-13-2009, 10:06 PM
JT is no superstar, he was good against Hopkins and thats it
and froch is international icon :nut
Dunky McCafferty
02-13-2009, 10:31 PM
Khan & Haye have the best chance of winning.
Now anyone who seen Barreras last fight knows hes a bloated shadow of the fighter he once was, couple that to to Khan now training with the legend that is Freddie Roach, Khan will win.
As for Haye, if he fights the weaker Klit, his speed & power could be enough to see him through against Wlad. he wouldnt have stood a chance against vitali though.
Froch? I like the big fucker, I really do. got massive respect for him calling out Calzaghe, who despite being the better man in my eyes has bottled a fight with the big Nottingham lad.
As for Hatton? Expect him to be blown away pretty quickly. He cant & wont deal with Pacs in & out style. Hes simply too one dimensional.
Max Molyneux
02-14-2009, 03:26 AM
With 4 of England's marquee names set up for big fights where arguably they are all underdogs - who if any has a chance of winning? or do u think this could be a terrible few months for english boxing?
Hatton v Pacquiao
Haye v Klitschko
Froch v Taylor
Khan v Barrera
Hate to say it, but i think Khan stands the best chance, and i think hatton could do it too. haye and froch are the 2 guys i would like to see win but i dont think they will.
Hatton will easily destroy Pac, hope Ricky does too.:happy
Khan wins too but the other two lose bad. Froch hasn't fought real world class yet and Is horribly overrated.
icemax
02-14-2009, 09:59 AM
froch=pavlik :nut
dont even try and compare the level of competiton between the 2. JT is a proven fighter and froch is a dud without a wick.
and btw, taylor bounced back from that brutal KO, made adjustments and went 12 rounds in the 2nd fight. many (including myself) thought that he was done and would ever be the same after. and based on that performance along with the lacy blowout is all i need to know....... TALYOR WIDE UD.
FFS :-( You bite so easily...its like shooting bass in a barrel :yep
Mookhound
02-14-2009, 12:25 PM
Haye-Klitschko. Haye wins this and wins this big. The Americans are going to be shocked at the talent haye actually possess, but doesn't always use. He is a nightmare for anyone who doesn't have great powers of recovery, because he is an absolute expert finisher. Nothing against Wlad, but this is a terrible match up for him
Froch-Taylor. Froch has too much power and determination. Taylor is very, very talented and what he did in the BHop fights should be appreciated more than it is, but so Froch is very skillful and accurate - you don't win a medal in the world ams if you lack skill.
Hatton-Pacman. Extremely close fight. Much will depend on Hatton getting back his pre-Tszyu head movement. If Pac keeps catching Hatton, he's in big trouble. If not, i believe Hatton's size, equal workrate and darting footwork will wear down Pac. P4P, Pac is definitely better, so I don't mean this rudely to the Pacman.
Khan-Barrera. At first I though Khan walks this, just the sort of fight he needs. the trouble is, all Khan seems to have now is speed and reasonable heavy hands. a lot of what made him such fun to watch as an amateur seems to have gone. Not every fighter needs to change dramatically their styles from am to pro, and I think he might be one of those guys. Barrera, unfortunately.
Realspitts
02-14-2009, 02:43 PM
FFS :-( You bite so easily...its like shooting bass in a barrel :yep
well you get owned so easily i cant help it :hey
you and your fake ass just*n timberlake avatar :lol:
toffeejack
02-14-2009, 03:23 PM
Khan
Hatton
Haye
Froch
Khan will stop Barrera late on but we all know this is just genius matchmaking by ****** to fool the general public.
Hatton will get stopped late but the more I think about this fight the more I'm starting to fancy Hatton's chances.
Haye will get knocked out but he's capable of doing the same to Wlad.
Froch will lose a close but comfortable UD.
IMO.
trotter
02-14-2009, 04:34 PM
My honest assessment of their respective chances of winning...
Khan 65%
Hatton 50%
Froch 45%
Haye 35%
I hope they all win. I will actually be disappointed if Khan, Hatton or Froch lose.
Whereas I'll be quite surprised if Haye wins ... but it would give me the biggest buzz of all four if he did. It would be fucking fantastic.
toffeejack
02-14-2009, 04:38 PM
My honest assessment of their respective chances of winning...
Khan 65%
Hatton 50%
Froch 45%
Haye 35%
I hope they all win. I will actually be disappointed if Khan, Hatton or Froch lose.
Whereas I'll be quite surprised if Haye wins ... but it would give me the biggest buzz of all four if he did. It would be fucking fantastic.
If he weren't such a cocky and arrogant tosser then I would agree with you because it's about time the Heavyweight division had some shaking up.
I just can't bring myself to like the guy because of his attitude. Likewise Froch.
Haye winning would be the biggest one. It would likely be in dramatic fashion too when we consider all elements.
Cruiser > heavyweight champion.
It would be big. I think that would really send shockwaves around this board.
trotter
02-14-2009, 04:49 PM
Haye winning would be the biggest one. It would likely be in dramatic fashion too when we consider all elements.
Cruiser > heavyweight champion.
It would be big. I think that would really send shockwaves around this board.
Oh it would be huge, absolutely huge
After the 100 or so year wait for a British heavyweight champ, when we finally got one it felt like a damp squib... the Canadian-accented Lennox getting awarded a belt that Bowe had dumped in a bin, if I remember rightly
The closest we got to that pivotal moment of glory was the Ruddock win I guess
I was thrilled for Bruno but that didn't feel like we had the best heavy in the world either did it?
I think Haye KO'ing a Klit would almost be the first bona fide 'British heavy going out proving he's the best' moment in living memory
He'd have to beat Vit to get the full acclaim but still...
The boards of ESB would go 'Hayewire' (sorry)
box-now
02-14-2009, 05:03 PM
I think Froch has the best chance followed by Haye Khan and Hatton.
icemax
02-14-2009, 05:07 PM
well you get owned so easily i cant help it :hey
you and your fake ass just*n timberlake avatar :lol:
Owned?,just1n Timberlake?, what the fuck are you talking about knobcheese?
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