View Full Version : Sweet P vs. PBF-Lowest Punch Output in history
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 08:25 PM
Thankfully these two competed in different eras otherwise we would have been treated to the most boring fight in history. Would combined punches landed exceed 10?
Amsterdam
08-17-2007, 08:30 PM
Sorry to inform you, but Pernell wasn't the type to pot shot his way to victory, he threw combinations in high number and often stood in the trenches utilising his incredible defence always.
Whitaker WIDE UD also, it would be entertaining.
Pimp C
08-17-2007, 08:30 PM
You're a fucking idiot PBF-Sweet Pea would have been a fan of the sweet science's dream. To watch these two great technicians square off would have been a treat.:deal
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 08:41 PM
You're a fucking idiot PBF-Sweet Pea would have been a fan of the sweet science's dream. To watch these two great technicians square off would have been a treat.:dealThe sweet science of dancing you mean? It would have been a treat to insomniacs everywhere. sorry to upset you though Pimp.
kg0208
08-17-2007, 08:54 PM
The sweet science of dancing you mean? It would have been a treat to insomniacs everywhere. sorry to upset you though Pimp.
Actually they have you pegged. Whitaker threw over 1000 punches in a fight multiple times. You obviously don't know much about Whitaker, so you shouldn't post about him.
Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 08:54 PM
Thankfully these two competed in different eras otherwise we would have been treated to the most boring fight in history. Would combined punches landed exceed 10?
You've obviously never watched Pernell fight and are only buy what you assume, since he was known for his defense.
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 09:07 PM
A lot of angry people on the forum at the moment. surprising how people can take it so personally that someone dislikes a fighters style. And i said punches LANDED, they could throw 5000punches but i doubt they could connect very often. And does living in a trailer make my opinion any less valid??
Rollo
08-17-2007, 09:10 PM
Thankfully these two competed in different eras otherwise we would have been treated to the most boring fight in history. Would combined punches landed exceed 10?
:-(
Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 09:11 PM
A lot of angry people on the forum at the moment. surprising how people can take it so personally that someone dislikes a fighters style. And i said punches LANDED, they could throw 5000punches but i doubt they could connect very often. And does living in a trailer make my opinion any less valid??
Actually your thread says OUTPUT..not landed.
EIther way, did you make this thread simply to get people to respond in anger or something? :huh
The sweet science of dancing you mean? It would have been a treat to insomniacs everywhere. sorry to upset you though Pimp.
I guess you prefer the sweet science of throwing 100 punches a round for 4 rounds, gassing out, and getting knocked out. Or the even sweeter science of headlining in your home town for the first time in your career and getting knocked out by a journeyman.
Posters like you make people think Europeans here are retards.
puga_ni_nana
08-17-2007, 09:14 PM
A lot of angry people on the forum at the moment. surprising how people can take it so personally that someone dislikes a fighters style. And i said punches LANDED, they could throw 5000punches but i doubt they could connect very often. And does living in a trailer make my opinion any less valid??
your thread title is misleading. but you are correct that there would be few punches landed. the more apt match-up for your thread title would be mayweather vs spinks.
DoumB
08-17-2007, 09:15 PM
Huh, did u ever watch sweet pea fight? he could throw more then 1000 punches a fight and floyd if the fight was at 140 wouldnt pot shot like he does at higher weights, would be a great fight
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 09:18 PM
Actually your thread says OUTPUT..not landed.
EIther way, did you make this thread simply to get people to respond in anger or something? :huhUhhuh, must have been confused about the meaning of output, i'm not so great at english, meant landed. but to answer you're question, i wasn't looking for only angry responses, i really do think it is a stylistically terrible fight. two big name fighters does not always make an amazing fight. and i have seen them both fight numerous times, and i don't like to assume anything.
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 09:22 PM
I guess you prefer the sweet science of throwing 100 punches a round for 4 rounds, gassing out, and getting knocked out. Or the even sweeter science of headlining in your home town for the first time in your career and getting knocked out by a journeyman.
Posters like you make people think Europeans here are retards.actually both of those fights were very entertaining, and i don't cry or lose sleep if klitschko loses i prefer to see a great fight. i won't assume all californians are retarded based on you're apparent lack of intelligence, despite the fact that arnold is your governor
Ramshall1
08-17-2007, 09:23 PM
You can easily tell how entertaining a boxer is by imagining what a fight with his mirror image would look like. . . .
example. . . Tyson vs Tyson, Chavez Vs Chavez, Duran vs Duran would all be awsome. . .
FMJ vs FMJ would be damn boring, Pernell Vs Pernell? FMJ Vs Pernell? Id rather watch Marion Jones run around the track, at least she's supposed to have a pussy.
The sweet science of dancing you mean? It would have been a treat to insomniacs everywhere. sorry to upset you though Pimp.
PBF has outhrown and outlanded his last 5 opponents, WTF are you all talking about?? PBF throws the WW average and lands well above that.
And Whittaker, he has had plenty fight with 100+ punches per round.
Watch the fights, don't just read the hype, and maybe learn something about boxing.
Ramshall1
08-17-2007, 09:29 PM
Pitter pat and run, pitter pat and run.
Not saying anything more than: PBF and Sweet Pea both had average or above average punch output.
It may be a boring fight, it may be a great chess-match, who knows...but whoever posted this thread is a fucking boxing newbie who don't know shit about either fighter.
There were rounds Oscar landed 8 punches, landed 8 PUNCHES, but you ain't hear shit about that. Floyd out-threw every round against Oscar, but "Oscar pressed the action"
Fuckin idiots.
Pitter pat and run, pitter pat and run.
sounds like stick and move, stick and move...
it's called boxing, not lets punch each other concussively.
it's been around for a few centuries, you should learn about it.
kg0208
08-17-2007, 09:33 PM
Not saying anything more than: PBF and Sweet Pea both had average or above average punch output.
It may be a boring fight, it may be a great chess-match, who knows...but whoever posted this thread is a fucking boxing newbie who don't know shit about either fighter.
There were rounds Oscar landed 8 punches, landed 8 PUNCHES, but you ain't hear shit about that. Floyd out-threw every round against Oscar, but "Oscar pressed the action"
Fuckin idiots.
Actually De La Hoya threw 100 more punches than PBF. But he didn't land as much.
As for the pitter patter run reference by the other poster...well if that's all he is doing, then no one should have a problem beating him. How pathetic that they can't.
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 09:37 PM
its difficult to call them punches when it looks like mayweather is swatting away a mosquito. even if oscar threw only 8 punches im sure he was at least trying to HURT pbf with them.
Ramshall1
08-17-2007, 09:37 PM
sounds like stick and move, stick and move...
it's called boxing, not lets punch each other concussively.
it's been around for a few centuries, you should learn about it.
Most of us would rather watch Vasquez Vs Marquez. . .than FMJ Vs Malagnagi anyday.
kg0208
08-17-2007, 09:38 PM
its difficult to call them punches when it looks like mayweather is swatting away a mosquito. even if oscar threw only 8 punches im sure he was at least trying to HURT pbf with them.
Exxagerating. PBF threw power shots. And he often sat down on them. He is much smaller than DLH.
kg0208
08-17-2007, 09:39 PM
Most of us would rather watch Vasquez Vs Marquez. . .than FMJ Vs Malagnagi anyday.
Not as exciting doesn't equate to the exxagerrated opinion that you have the PBF ran the whole night. It was clearly not the case.
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 09:40 PM
PBF-Magic man, how exciting watching two guys who can't hit hard enough to mess up eachothers hair.
its difficult to call them punches when it looks like mayweather is swatting away a mosquito. even if oscar threw only 8 punches im sure he was at least trying to HURT pbf with them.
i dont think you understand the art of punching. It's not how strong you are. His speed and accuracy makes blows very painful. It's accurate sharp blows to vulnerable areas of the body, liver, temple, nose, eyes, jaw, etc.
PBF hurt Oscar more than Oscar hurt PBF. Period. Rounds 5 and 11 Oscar's knees buckled.
PBF-Magic man, how exciting watching two guys who can't hit hard enough to mess up eachothers hair.
and both would knock your ass unconscious, so show some respect.
Ramshall1
08-17-2007, 09:43 PM
Not as exciting doesn't equate to the exxagerrated opinion that you have the PBF ran the whole night. It was clearly not the case.
not in every fight, and to be fair he wasnt half bad in most fights 135 and below. . . he was brilliant in the Gatti fight. He also ran from Castillo after deserving a loss in the first, he ran from Baldomir for 12 rounds - thats just sad.
kg0208
08-17-2007, 09:45 PM
not in every fight, and to be fair he wasnt half bad in most fights 135 and below. . . he was brilliant in the Gatti fight. He also ran from Castillo after deserving a loss in the first, he ran from Baldomir for 12 rounds - thats just sad.
And I completely disagree. He ran from Baldomir AFTER he hurt his hand. Prior to that, he just simply dodged and hit him.
And he decided to stick and move to frustrate Castillo same as Leonard adjusted to Duran,
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 09:48 PM
and both would knock your ass unconscious, so show some respect.would still have to be an accumulation TKO
Ramshall1
08-17-2007, 09:49 PM
And I completely disagree. He ran from Baldomir AFTER he hurt his hand. Prior to that, he just simply dodged and hit him.
And he decided to stick and move to frustrate Castillo same as Leonard adjusted to Duran,
again with the "hurt hand" excuse. :dead
Ramshall1
08-17-2007, 09:50 PM
and both would knock your ass unconscious, so show some respect.
what a great argument to prove your point. :roll:
would still have to be an accumulation TKO
no really, they both would knock you unconscious.
brooklyn1550
08-17-2007, 09:51 PM
Whitaker threw a lot of punches, especially at 135.
kg0208
08-17-2007, 09:51 PM
again with the "hurt hand" excuse. :dead
Do you know his hand was not injured? If you don't, then you are simply not buying it because you don't like the fighter. He clearly hurts his hand, the commentators mention it during the fight and PBF mentions it later. You have no argument here and we both know that.
If you don't believe it, thats on you. But the truth is always a valid defense.
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 09:51 PM
no really, they both would knock you unconscious.Oh you mean REALLY , sorry i didn't understand the first time
Mind Reader
08-17-2007, 09:53 PM
I would pay big time to see those two prime for prime.... I think it would be very intertaining.
Ramshall1
08-17-2007, 09:54 PM
Do you know his hand was not injured? If you don't, then you are simply not buying it because you don't like the fighter. He clearly hurts his hand, the commentators mention it during the fight and PBF mentions it later. You have no argument here and we both know that.
If you don't believe it, thats on you. But the truth is always a valid defense.
BS, pitter pat and run was his gameplan from the opening round. . . he was so afraid of losing his precious DLH fight that he ducked Margarito and ran from Baldy. . . then he made a pretty boring match with DLH. great. :blood
what a great argument to prove your point. :roll:
this coming from mr "i never heard of stick and move" i called it "pitty pat and run?"
Here's my point. I've been boxing longer than you've been a fan. A professional or top amateur boxing has trains as many hours a week as you work to land powerful accurate blows to vulnerable parts of your body. It takes a harder punch to KO the best PROFESSIONAL fighters in the world, because of skill of defending vulnerable areas of the body, and a resistance of training their bodies to absorb harder shots from heavier-handed PROFESSIONALS whom they spar and fight with.
A mere chump like Wladimir nuthugger over here, regardless of weight, can land a powerful enough punch to render them unconcious to vulnerable body parts. Period. This argument happened when Carlito said he could take shots from pro fighters.
BS, pitter pat and run was his gameplan from the opening round. . . he was so afraid of losing his precious DLH fight that he ducked Margarito and ran from Baldy. . . then he made a pretty boring match with DLH. great. :blood
go watch MMA and do us all a favor.
kg0208
08-17-2007, 10:01 PM
BS, pitter pat and run was his gameplan from the opening round. . . he was so afraid of losing his precious DLH fight that he ducked Margarito and ran from Baldy. . . then he made a pretty boring match with DLH. great. :blood
Well then thats your opinion. Most articles about the fight say that Mayweather was more active earlier on. Mayweather says he hurt his hand and it made him reluctant to engage as often. I believe him more than I believe someone who hates him, especially when it corraborates what I saw.
How did Baldomir get cut in the early rounds if PBF was not hitting him?
Irländsk
08-17-2007, 10:01 PM
go watch MMA and do us all a favor.seems like you assume you are the only one on this site who has ever boxed, and everyone else is a wide eyed novice who needs your "professional" advice and instruction. I'm willing to bet that quite a large number of readers on this site actively train in boxing, they just don't feel the need to blab on about it in every comment to make themselves feel superior.
istmeno
08-17-2007, 10:38 PM
Thankfully these two competed in different eras otherwise we would have been treated to the most boring fight in history. Would combined punches landed exceed 10?
learn about a fighter before spouting idiocy.
The sweet science of dancing you mean? It would have been a treat to insomniacs everywhere. sorry to upset you though Pimp.
Man, you've obviously never seen Mayweather fight at his prime weight or Whitaker fight period. STFU poser.
sues2nd
08-18-2007, 12:50 AM
Thankfully these two competed in different eras otherwise we would have been treated to the most boring fight in history. Would combined punches landed exceed 10?
WOW, you have OBVIOUSLY never seen Sweet Pea fight. He regularly threw in excess of 1000 punches a fight.
Seriously, how old are you, 12???
Dumbest post of the week!!! Congrats....:good
tays001
08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
Thankfully these two competed in different eras otherwise we would have been treated to the most boring fight in history. Would combined punches landed exceed 10?:rofl :? :think
ACTUALLY I THINK IT WOULD OF BEEN AN EXCITING FIGHT:hey
jecxbox
08-18-2007, 12:58 AM
The sweet science of dancing you mean? It would have been a treat to insomniacs everywhere.
That is the silliest thing I've ever read in my life. Floyd Mayweather wasn't a runner at his prime weight...Physically he is out of his league at 147 and this is clear because he has to run his way to victory since his power doesn't carry up to 147+. And Sweat Pea the sweet science of "dancing"...What the hell is that supposed to mean because I honestly can't think of any kind of way that applies to Pernell Whitaker. Seems like your post was typed out without much thought behind it at all because you need to go watch some prime Floyd and prime Pernell fights honestly lol. :bbb
tays001
08-18-2007, 01:04 AM
That is the silliest thing I've ever read in my life. Floyd Mayweather wasn't a runner at his prime weight...Physically he is out of his league at 147 and this is clear because he has to run his way to victory since his power doesn't carry up to 147+. And Sweat Pea the sweet science of "dancing"...What the hell is that supposed to mean because I honestly can't think of any kind of way that applies to Pernell Whitaker. Seems like your post was typed out without much thought behind it at all because you need to go watch some prime Floyd and prime Pernell fights honestly lol. :bbb
why even respond to such an icompetant statement:-(
Thread Stealer
08-18-2007, 02:22 AM
Whitaker had a pretty high workrate and Mayweather has been more aggressive against lefties.
The fight wouldn't be that bad.
jecxbox
08-18-2007, 02:32 AM
Judah vs Mayweather was a good fight. I think its safe to say that Mayweather vs Whitaker would have been in a whole different league in terms of skill vs skill and excitement as well.
MJRJJ23
08-18-2007, 02:55 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how you run/dance and outland and knockout opponents. If your close enough to land punches then your close enough to receive punches, so blame Baldo, ODLH, and whomever else could not capatilize on opportunities
bigtime9
08-18-2007, 03:24 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how you run/dance and outland and knockout opponents. If your close enough to land punches then your close enough to receive punches, so blame Baldo, ODLH, and whomever else could not capatilize on opportunities
that's pretty much it in a nutshell...floyd is a runner with a 62% ko ratio:lol:
digiram
08-18-2007, 03:43 AM
It's a good thing Wlad and Vitaly are brothers, or we'd have an all night jab jab hug fest.
MrSmall
08-18-2007, 08:48 AM
Oh no he didn't.
achillesthegreat
08-18-2007, 02:02 PM
At 135 Pea throws about 100 punches a round. He continously jabs, lets off combos and works the body.
Floyd doesn't hold back against people that can't really punch i.e. Corley and Mitchell.
I think you'd be suprised how good this fight would be.
nervousxtian
08-18-2007, 08:26 PM
Wow, another thread that judges Floyds whole career off the Hoya and Baldomir fights.
This bitch has no credibility, zero. He's probably never seen Sweet Pea fight as well.
PH|LLA
08-18-2007, 08:41 PM
it wouldve been a one sided beatdown. no chance for pbf
pipe wrenched
08-18-2007, 08:42 PM
Go watch UFC you retarded 13 year old trailer trash redneck noob.
:lol: Man I love ESB! :lol:
skunk
08-18-2007, 09:03 PM
if floyd mayweather put more pressure in the late rounds against dlh i think he would ave been able to stop him. he just didnt do it. like roy he doesnt like getting hit.
Toopretty
08-18-2007, 09:06 PM
it wouldve been a one sided beatdown. no chance for pbf
No boxer in history would beat down floyd other then Hearns...nobody..:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:nut:nut:nut:nut The guy never been outboxed..lol and barely loses rounds. And the powerless sweat pea of all people beat down floyd. Like floyd cant take his punch..Wow..just wow...
nervousxtian
08-18-2007, 11:06 PM
I think it'd be a great fight, that Pea would win. What it wouldn't be is a what the initial poster said, it'd be a fight for the ages.
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