Hearns, Benitez, Hagler and SRL in the 1940's

[Bokaj]

How would their careers panned out if you swap them with Robinson, Burley, Williams etc? Would all of them except Leonard been put on murderers' row?

And how would the careers of the 1940's crew pannned out in the 1980's?

[MrMarvel]

What do you mean when you say "all but Leonard"?

[Bokaj]

What do you mean when you say "all but Leonard"?

I've got a feeling that Leonard would be the one who would get the title shot, like Robinson. But I might be wrong, of course. It's just that his image seems like the thing that would give him a shot.

[PowerPuncher]

It really depends on if they can establish a big fan base and most black fighters then simply couldnt. I don't know why most were on the Row and Robinson/Armstrong/Galivan weren't because the Row fighters were just as good and exciting too. Sometimes its just luck

Lets say they were all on the Row. All would suffer more losses, be frozen out of championship fights, maybe be forced to go up in weight to find competition/get fights, have to take a dive to get bigger fights or make ends meat, which reminds me stirloin steak, chips and fried eggs for dinner :D

[turpinr]

hagler had to wait for a title shot as it was ,so he'd have been out of luck
back then.
i can never understand fighters of the modern era being compared to yesteryear.i always try and envisage somebody like burley born 25 years ago. he'd be at least 15lbs heavier for a start and with better standards in training who knows.at least he'd get a chance these days.

[Sweet Pea]

It'd be interesting to see if any of them were, in fact, better fighters than the original Murderer's Row. Can't say for sure, really.

[CottoDaBodykill]

i could see benitiz being the most successful with the other 3 having a habit of wanting to go toe to toe .. benitiz futureistic defenseive manuevers would be faaar to much for alot of the straight up sluggers of that day

[Sweet Pea]

i could see benitiz being the most successful with the other 3 having a habit of wanting to go toe to toe .. benitiz futureistic defenseive manuevers would be faaar to much for alot of the straight up sluggers of that dayWhat ill-advised nonsense you post sometimes.

[Bokaj]

i could see benitiz being the most successful with the other 3 having a habit of wanting to go toe to toe .. benitiz futureistic defenseive manuevers would be faaar to much for alot of the straight up sluggers of that day

A stylistical analysis wasn't really the point of the thread. But rather what opportunities they would get.

[Sweet Pea]

A stylistical analysis wasn't really the point of the thread. But rather what opportunities they would get.
Not to mention his "analysis" was completely half-baked.

[Bokaj]

Not to mention his "analysis" was completely half-baked.

Come on, cut him some slack ;)

I've been wondering, Pea. You write in a very mature and intelligent manner for someone so young. Are you way ahead of your peers in school as well? You seem to be a pretty smart kid.

Perhaps you don't want to toot your own horn, but I'm actually quite curious. In my experience 17-18 year olds rarely are as eloquate as you are.

[CottoDaBodykill]

benitez wasn't a defenseive wizard? ..leonard, hearns ,hagler all didn't have a penchant to slug it out and get caught at times?.. my what fights have i been watching cause i coulda SWORE all 3 were involved in some serious slugfests... maybe i've been watching the wrong ones tho!

[Bokaj]

benitez wasn't a defenseive wizard? ..leonard, hearns ,hagler all didn't have a penchant to slug it out and get caught at times?.. my what fights have i been watching cause i coulda SWORE all 3 were involved in some serious slugfests... maybe i've been watching the wrong ones tho!

For Hagler and Hearns, being caught in a "slugfest" was rarely a mistake.

As for Leonard, I suppose that you mean he was caught in one against Duran. We can argue endlessly about what his tactics were and why, but the simple fact remains that it's only in hindsight that it seems like a bad idea for a natural WW boxer-puncher like Leonard to go toe-to-toe with a natural LW.

In all other fights I've watched him, Leonard has been the quintessence of tactically sound. Especially against Benitez.

[timmers612]

I see Sweet Peas working at making friends again.

[redrooster]

How would their careers panned out if you swap them with Robinson, Burley, Williams etc? Would all of them except Leonard been put on murderers' row?

And how would the careers of the 1940's crew pannned out in the 1980's?

Was 140 around at the time? Hagler would definitely be champ. I have doubts about the other 3

[TIGEREDGE]

this would of been a shame. they would never have got the credit they deserve

[El Puma]

i could see benitiz being the most successful with the other 3 having a habit of wanting to go toe to toe .. benitiz futureistic defenseive manuevers would be faaar to much for alot of the straight up sluggers of that day
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