Quebec commission demands rule changes for UFC 97 [Archive]

scurlaruntings

02-13-2009, 10:53 AM

The report goes on to state that sources have indicated the commission may be looking to require "a much smaller cage than the UFC's patented Octagon, prohibiting elbow and knee strikes and requiring that the referee to halt a bout should a fighter get knocked down from a strike in order to ensure the downed fighter is OK to continue."

Guess Dana didnt realise the UFC isnt as popular as he thought.

LONE WOLF

02-13-2009, 11:12 AM

Wow, this would totally change the sport.

scurlaruntings

02-13-2009, 11:14 AM

Wow, this would totally change the sport.Nope just UFC97. Hmkay pumpkin. :thumbsup

WiDDoW_MaKeR

02-13-2009, 11:18 AM

They should move the event somewhere else. Those rule changes are completely ridiculous.

BoxingFanNo1

02-13-2009, 11:18 AM

Be good to see Dana getting put in his place. I'll bet he's furious:lol:
Mind you at the same time the prick might just say 'Fuck Canada, we won't be back'.
Yes I also think the request is stupid but hey, Fuck Dana.

scurlaruntings

02-13-2009, 11:20 AM

They should move the event somewhere else. Those rule changes are completely ridiculous.Let this be there first and last time i agree with you. :bart

Imagine that, a knockdown, and then check the downed fighter to see if he`s ok to continue? WTF?

ufoalf

02-13-2009, 11:32 AM

lol. Well UFC 97 is the last Canada show.

québecwarrior

02-13-2009, 11:39 AM

québecwarrior

02-13-2009, 11:41 AM

lol. Well UFC 97 is the last Canada show.
The show wont happen here, its simple.
Because of our gay commission:twisted::twisted::twisted:

sugarngold

02-13-2009, 12:12 PM

This is not going to happen. No way.

scorpy

02-13-2009, 12:56 PM

Rules NEVER changed, but the comission was letting a room for UFC, TKO and XMMA..Now with the bullshit of strikeforce titans whatever with Bossé and Thomson, and the nearly riot, they said its enough.
fuck that shit, gay country
im australian now

:lol:

Yeah. That is a sad joke for anyone living in Quebec and fan of MMA. UFC97 could easily be move to Vegas and that's that. The new head of the commission is terrible. He should be fired RIGHT NOW.

Makes me wanna puke.

dwilson

02-13-2009, 01:15 PM

Canada is so gay at times...French Canadia I mean.

BoxingFanNo1

02-13-2009, 01:18 PM

im australian now

Masochist.

québecwarrior

02-13-2009, 01:29 PM

:lol:

Yeah. That is a sad joke for anyone living in Quebec and fan of MMA. UFC97 could easily be move to Vegas and that's that. The new head of the commission is terrible. He should be fired RIGHT NOW.

Makes me wanna puke.
Yes, our commission are a JOKE, just a bunch of old senile dinausors who know NOTHING about MMA. That's a fuckin joke, fuck they still think that MMA is sport for dangerous animal..We have the best fighter of UFC coming from our province he would be the best ambassador, but they dont give a shit, if they were honest, they would change the rules, but they wont by pure stuborness, but check in one year or 2, we will have finally, the right rules for MMA. It's a goddamn joke.
Stephane Patry is a dumbass, him and his idea of puttin his show behind the back of the commission.

:fire:fire:fireThe sport will take a step back here, its a dame shame

scorpy

02-13-2009, 01:58 PM

Canada is so gay at times...French Canadia I mean.

Mate, MMA events are forbidden in many english provinces. Quebec is actually where MMA and boxing is most active.

scorpy

02-13-2009, 02:00 PM

Yes, our commission are a JOKE, just a bunch of old senile dinausors who know NOTHING about MMA. That's a fuckin joke, fuck they still think that MMA is sport for dangerous animal..We have the best fighter of UFC coming from our province he would be the best ambassador, but they dont give a shit, if they were honest, they would change the rules, but they wont by pure stuborness, but check in one year or 2, we will have finally, the right rules for MMA. It's a goddamn joke.
Stephane Patry is a dumbass, him and his idea of puttin his show behind the back of the commission.

:fire:fire:fireThe sport will take a step back here, its a dame shame

Actually, there might be hope.

Pour ce qui est de XMMA, le directeur des communications de l'organisation, Joey Benoit, a indiqué que le gala du 27 février aura bel et bien lieu et que les combattants respecteront les règles de la Régie. Il précise toutefois que le travail est déjà entamé afin de modifier certains règlements pour que les règles internationales d'arts martiaux mixtes puissent aussi prévaloir au Québec.

Maybe someone will wake up before it's too late.

québecwarrior

02-13-2009, 02:03 PM

Thanks for that text, but, it will be stupid that february 27th with the ''right'' rules of the comission..No elbow on the ground, ect ect..It will be hard for these athlete who are training that goddamn way for years, than need to make the change in about 2 weeks.
Its a joke.

Boyd

02-13-2009, 02:40 PM

fuck i bought tickets for this shit. what happens if they move it? i booked flights and everything.

boxingcar

02-13-2009, 02:46 PM

scorpy

02-13-2009, 02:49 PM

fuck i bought tickets for this shit. what happens if they move it? i booked flights and everything.

My guess is that heads will clear and everything will be alright. Everything will go on as planed and they will officialy change the rules in a few weeks.

Boyd

02-13-2009, 02:54 PM

My guess is that heads will clear and everything will be alright. Everything will go on as planed and they will officialy change the rules in a few weeks.
i don't know if i want to go with these fucked up rules. that shit is hella gay.

québecwarrior

02-13-2009, 03:06 PM

UFC will never accept to fight with those rules, and the commission WONT back down , i'm sure of it.
Bet on it that UFC 97 will not be in Montreal. I hope i'm wrong, but that's not the first times, mma fan are complaining about that commission, and nothing change. Maybe if Dana White is really pissed off, and throw the case in court , that could maybe change something..

québecwarrior

02-13-2009, 03:09 PM

Oh, maybe im too negative.
On a radio show here, CKAC, Jacques Therriault(I thought he was no more in the commission) said that now, they are more open minded and that will be a reunion between them and the UFC.
:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy

BoxingFanNo1

02-13-2009, 03:11 PM

They'll change.
They won't want to wave goodbye to the $$$$$$$ UFC brings to town.

scorpy

02-13-2009, 03:26 PM

scorpy

02-13-2009, 03:29 PM

i don't know if i want to go with these fucked up rules. that shit is hella gay.

The UFC would never have an event under those rules. What I mean is that things will go back to what they were for the last 15 years. They will close their eyes on this "rule breaking" and will change officialy the rules in a few weeks.

scurlaruntings

02-13-2009, 03:30 PM

Why bother if they're demanding these rules ? Why not organise a greco-roman competition or an adcc competition instead ? This is ridiculous.
:lol: Indeed.

québecwarrior

02-13-2009, 03:39 PM

Thériault is the radio show host. Latraverse is the former commissioner.
thanks you are well informed:good

Boyd

02-13-2009, 04:37 PM

The UFC would never have an event under those rules. What I mean is that things will go back to what they were for the last 15 years. They will close their eyes on this "rule breaking" and will change officialy the rules in a few weeks.i get ya. i'm very dissapointed GSP isn't fighting but the card is ok. TJ grant who is from nova scotia is making his debut, i am good freids with his cousin.

achillesthegreat

02-13-2009, 04:41 PM

Cancel it. These rules can spoil a fighters career. They shouldn't be made to adapt to these rules.

Wilhelm

02-13-2009, 06:28 PM

Wasn't GSP the Canadian athlete of the year last year? Isn't he the biggest sporting star they have right now? How can their athletic commission be so out of touch with their sporting culture?

ufoalf

02-13-2009, 07:50 PM

Wasn't GSP the Canadian athlete of the year last year? Isn't he the biggest sporting star they have right now? How can their athletic commission be so out of touch with their sporting culture?

I think Boxing has their own commission. MMA, unfortunately, fall into it.

codeman99998

02-13-2009, 07:56 PM

Putting the prick Dana White in his place? WTF! Those rules changes are absolutely HORRIBLE!

Hermit

02-13-2009, 10:42 PM

YThat's a fuckin joke, fuck they still think that MMA is sport for dangerous animal..

Fedor? :think

Rattler

02-13-2009, 11:35 PM

This is what happens when you let them Canadian pansy's decide how a fight's gonna go.

ShadowWorks

02-14-2009, 07:15 AM

This is what happens when you let them Canadian pansy's decide how a fight's gonna go.

Agreed, they should go back to Loving Moose's.

Maxime

02-16-2009, 05:22 AM

Wasn't GSP the Canadian athlete of the year last year? Isn't he the biggest sporting star they have right now? How can their athletic commission be so out of touch with their sporting culture?

The biggest sport stars in Canada are hockey players.

Even very popular combat athletes like GSP and Lucian Bute fall second to hockey.

Maxime

02-16-2009, 05:25 AM

I think Boxing has their own commission. MMA, unfortunately, fall into it.

It all falls under the same commission.

It's called " Régie des alcools, des courses et des jeux".

It translate to "Commission of alcohols, races and gambling".

fatcity

02-16-2009, 03:44 PM

Marc Ratner of Zuffa feels "very Confident" that all will work out fine in Montreal.That's good enough for me.

AJAX

02-16-2009, 04:39 PM

It's always some suit behind a desk trying to justify his job. Fuckin tools, they should ban alcohol while they are at it.

AJAX

02-16-2009, 04:41 PM

Hermit

02-16-2009, 04:43 PM

It's always some suit behind a desk trying to justify his job. Fuckin tools, they should ban alcohol while they are at it.

Oh great. Give them ideas.......:lol:

scurlaruntings

02-16-2009, 06:00 PM

wtf does that have to do with anything, your desparate in your stabs at poor Dana.:-(You UFC joyboys are so darn touchy. Your on Dana`s payroll. Why dont you tell him how we feel about Canada. Now run along.:good

AJAX

02-16-2009, 07:30 PM

You UFC joyboys are so darn touchy. Your on Dana`s payroll. Why dont you tell him how we feel about Canada. Now run along.:good

I did tell him but he said that Montreal had the quickest sell out in UFC history and the biggest live gate revenue to date. And if Ontario could get on board they would be just as big. Don't hate Canada because of 1 person that is trying to be a hero.

Beebs

02-16-2009, 11:47 PM

It's because of the "Strikebox" event that went completely to shit.

As Quebec warrior stated, the rules have actually been on the book this way since 1999, but there was a verbal agreement to allow MMA.

Strikebox was going to try to fight under a set of rules that basically amounted to Shootboxing, but with MMA gloves and elbows; basically all standup striking techniques would be allowed, plus throws, and standing submisssions.

At first the commision was going to legalize those rules, then they decided not to, and told the promoter to just have his fighters have a "gentleman's agreement" to fight under those rules while actually being in MMA rules.

The fighters did, except the main event, where James Thompson took his opponent down and beat the shit out of him, the fans basically went nuts and started a riot.

Kind of Ironic that the stupid fucking commission at first FORCED a promotion to fight under MMA rules, and now won't allow them to.

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MaliSlamusrex

02-17-2009, 06:56 AM

commissions are holding out for as long as they can, but in the end it's all going to end up Vale tudo,

Grievesy

02-17-2009, 09:03 AM

Fucking frenchies!!!:verysad

BoxingFanNo1

02-17-2009, 09:12 AM

Putting the prick Dana White in his place? WTF! Those rules changes are absolutely HORRIBLE!

Let me clarify for you...

Yes the rule changes are truely horrible but.... Dana White gets a big 'Fuck You!!!'

Every cloud has a silver lining type thing.:D

I see past this unlike you my friend. It's no big deal, they move it and Canada never gets another MMA event.

scorpy

02-17-2009, 11:02 AM

Fucking frenchies!!!:verysad

Yeah. One fucking idiot is trying to be the little king of the hill and everyone in Quebec is pissed off at that guy... but fuck those frenchies. :patsch

I hope you were kidding.

Grievesy

02-17-2009, 12:00 PM

Yeah. One fucking idiot is trying to be the little king of the hill and everyone in Quebec is pissed off at that guy... but fuck those frenchies. :patsch

I hope you were kidding.

Course I was. :yep

On a serious note, I hope this is sorted out. You have to wonder just how clueless the guy running that commision is though. How can he not know how much money a UFC event is going to bring in?

And changing the rules really isn't an option. You might aswell do a different sport.

scorpy

02-17-2009, 12:25 PM

Course I was. :yep

On a serious note, I hope this is sorted out. You have to wonder just how clueless the guy running that commision is though. How can he not know how much money a UFC event is going to bring in?

And changing the rules really isn't an option. You might aswell do a different sport.

Last I heard the event is going on as planned. The guy running the commission is a new guy and I guess he has this ill-conceived idea that he needs to let everyone know that he is the new sherif in town. Dumb cunt.

québecwarrior

02-17-2009, 12:44 PM

Grievesy is still bitter at the ASS WHOOPING, my french pussy gaved to his boy Fatty Penn:hey:hey:hey
He dont have that lovely avatar for nothing:yep

Boyd

02-17-2009, 03:48 PM

Let me clarify for you...

Yes the rule changes are truely horrible but.... Dana White gets a big 'Fuck You!!!'

Every cloud has a silver lining type thing.:D

I see past this unlike you my friend. It's no big deal, they move it and Canada never gets another MMA event.lots and lots of MMA going on in canada. UFC isn't the only org going you know.

Maxime

02-18-2009, 12:36 AM

Fucking frenchies!!!:verysad

If it wasn't for the "frenchies". There would be no boxing or MMA in Canada.

:tong

LB3000

02-18-2009, 07:37 AM

White said he wants to be a part of the meeting because he can’t conceive of a way that Quebec would turn its back on the millions the event would pour into the local economy. White said the UFC’s own studies indicated that UFC 84 injected between $12 million and $15 million into the Quebec economy; he said Bell Centre officials told him their estimates of the economic impact was up to $25 million.

“If they stop this show from coming there, they’ll get murdered,” White said. “Look at what the economy is like now and we’re talking about pumping more than $10 million into the economy from a single night. They won’t have a night like that for the rest of the year.

“They’re going to have all their restaurants, shops, malls, hotels filled. We’ve already been there and we’ve already done a successful event. There were no problems, not fights, no riots in the streets. How can they turn us away? I just don’t see how they can, which is why I’m so positive at the end of the day, the show is going to go off like we planned.”

White said the UFC has an alternate plan in case his confidence is misplaced. The show will remain on April 18, but White said it would come back to Las Vegas and be at the MGM Grand Garden.

Source: Yahoo

fatcity

02-18-2009, 01:22 PM

There is no way Montreal can afford to lose this event in this economy.Even the French know the value of a buck.

Grievesy

02-18-2009, 03:16 PM

Well they have sorted it now. And the fighter won't be able to foot stomp. Yes all that fucking fuss and you're not allowed to stand on the other guys foot. WOW.

Hermit

02-18-2009, 03:23 PM

Well they have sorted it now. And the fighter won't be able to foot stomp. Yes all that fucking fuss and you're not allowed to stand on the other guys foot. WOW.

I guess they just had to assert their authority some how. :nut

Boyd

02-18-2009, 03:31 PM

Well they have sorted it now. And the fighter won't be able to foot stomp. Yes all that fucking fuss and you're not allowed to stand on the other guys foot. WOW.that's some bullshit.....i want a refund.

Wilhelm

02-19-2009, 12:51 PM

Yeah, knees and elbows to the head aren't any big deal, but what if someone's toe gets dislocated? That would be the TRUE end of modern culture. WTF.

Hermit

02-19-2009, 01:03 PM

Yeah, knees and elbows to the head aren't any big deal, but what if someone's toe gets dislocated? That would be the TRUE end of modern culture. WTF.

Like I said earlier. Face saving. They have to make it look like they put their 'stamp' on it some how. Their 'stamp' was to eliminate the 'stomp'? :rofl

codeman99998

02-19-2009, 05:40 PM

Yeah, knees and elbows to the head aren't any big deal, but what if someone's toe gets dislocated? That would be the TRUE end of modern culture. WTF.

I think there is a good argument for the elimination of the foot stomp (not that I necessarily agree) over the elimination of knees and elbows to the head.

Knees and elbows to the head can end fights, but I've never seen a footstomp end a fight. I've never seen footstomps even truly impede a fighters performance in the fight, except to cause pain. The injury a foot stomp could bring to the fighter rarely affects a fight either way, except now someone has a fractured bone in their foot. It's not a worthless move, but at the highest level, it is a shitty move to watch, it doesn't end fights or bring an end to fights, and it can break bones.

There is a legit argument against the foot stomp I think. Not that they didn't save face. It's possible that they don't even want to stop knees or elbows, they only wanted to get rid of foot stomps and by leading out with something so big, they bargained the UFC down and got exactly what they wanted.

québecwarrior

02-19-2009, 05:42 PM

I seriously hate foot stomps. They could ban it and I wouldnt care.

Hermit

02-19-2009, 05:44 PM

I seriously hate foot stomps. They could ban it and I wouldnt care.

More restrictions equal less like a real fight.

québecwarrior

02-19-2009, 05:52 PM

More restrictions equal less like a real fight.
ive been in a couple of street fight and no one tried to footstomp me

Hermit

02-19-2009, 05:55 PM

ive been in a couple of street fight and no one tried to footstomp me

Amatures. :lol: Plus, with the proper heel, it would be way more effective in a street fight. Not having to guard against a groin shot or head but already makes MMA a lot different than a street fight.

Beebs

02-20-2009, 02:34 AM

Pretty silly and useless rule, I think they are just salvaging a little ego like other people have said.

Doesn't bother me much, it is sort of like small joint manipulation; it won't end a fight it will just cause some injuries that prevent guys from working for no reason.

I think the less rules the better and more pure the sport is, but this isn't the end of the world.