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ripcity
08-17-2007, 11:04 PM
I know Mayweather has a lot of detractors on ESB. What I want to ask is what dose he need to do tobecome an all time great? He is extremely talented. I realy don't think there is anyone at his skil levil boxing today, and his skils are up there with the best in history. He is all ready as acomplished as any boxer in history. He has won world tittles in five weight classes. In my opinion his compotition could be better but it is not as bad as some people think. He is cerntly not the best all time but I think he deserves to be in the conversition when we talk about top 10 ATG lists.

Kostya Zoo
08-17-2007, 11:08 PM
That COMPLETELY ruined the credibility of not only your obviously nonexistent knowledge of boxing but of your entire ludicrous thread. Good bye.

As a Mayweather fan, I'm going to have to agree with your post.

BobDigi5060
08-17-2007, 11:10 PM
As long as he goes through the years undefeated fighting guys like Hatton and Cotto/Mosley winner he will get there. He doesn't need to go to MW which would be suicide for somebody with his frame. If he retired after DLH.. I'd place him in the 15-30 range. Years down the road, his accomplishments are going to mean that much more.

Fighting P4P division leaders like Hatton is a step in the right direction.

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:10 PM
I know Mayweather has a lot of detractors on ESB. What I want to ask is what dose he need to do tobecome an all time great? He is extremely talented. I realy don't think there is anyone at his skil levil boxing today, and his skils are up there with the best in history. He is all ready as acomplished as any boxer in history. He has won world tittles in five weight classes. In my opinion his compotition could be better but it is not as bad as some people think. He is cerntly not the best all time but I think he deserves to be in the conversition when we talk about top 10 ATG lists.All Mayweather needs to do to become an ATG is sit down and wait ten years -fullstop-

Kostya Zoo
08-17-2007, 11:13 PM
All Mayweather needs to do to become an ATG is sit down and wait ten years -fullstop-

He needs 2-3 more fights after Hatton so he can just leave NO question marks and solidify it.

Winner Cotto/Mosley would be a great start after he beats Hitman.

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:16 PM
It is all about how high in the top 15 he will place now

jlrivera81
08-17-2007, 11:17 PM
winner of cotto/mosley, one more of the tope welters like williams or cintron, and move up to fight a bigger man in maybe middle, like roy jones did. although he won a belt at 140, he never fought anyone significant and he hasnt defended a title since 140.

maximumsg
08-17-2007, 11:19 PM
What do you mean idiots he has to clean out the divisions that he wins these belts in. Beating the number 5 junior middle in oscar doesnot cut it. look at all the competition sitting out there for him to prove himself against. Mosley,cotto,williams,margarito, even winky at junior but he backed off of that challenge he put out there when winky said lets do it. I'm not saying he is'nt a great fighter but in his weight class he has the ability to fight for 2 or three more years and shut up all the people that don't think he is an all time great. Instead I think he will take the route of roy jones and talk about it but not seek the best available competition in his prime so in the end he will not make the top 15 or 20.

jlrivera81
08-17-2007, 11:20 PM
well said maximumsg

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:23 PM
:rofl


And where does Joe place now?
Calzaghe
Robinson
Jones
Whitaker
Mayweather

brooklyn1550
08-17-2007, 11:25 PM
Mayweather is already an ATG

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Calzaghe
Robinson
Jones
Whitaker
Mayweather

I'm sure you don't even believe that. :lol:

badger6
08-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Mayweather is already an ATG
So is the Easter bunny !!!

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:30 PM
I'm sure you don't even believe that. :lol:I admit I may have placed Robinson so high just to be politcally correct -fullstop-

bigtime9
08-17-2007, 11:30 PM
So is the Easterbunny !!!

the easterbunny didn't just beat hoya, and is not fighting hatton in december

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:31 PM
I admit I may have placed Robinson so high just to be politcally correct -fullstop-

Naw, you're either taking a piss or a total idiot, no offense. Joe C himself would not rate himself like that. He's not as ridiculous as his fans..:-(

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:32 PM
People denying Mayweather's status as an all time have zero foresight -fullstop-

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:32 PM
the easterbunny didn't just beat hoya, and is not fighting hatton in december
Gop answer my question bitch.

badger6
08-17-2007, 11:32 PM
the easterbunny didn't just beat hoya, and is not fighting hatton in december
And your point is what you fucking goofy jackoff ???? I see you haven't changed much in my absence !!!

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:33 PM
Naw, you're either taking a piss or a total idiot, no offense. Joe C himself would not rate himself like that. He's not as ridiculous as his fans..:-(Do you think Jones, Mayweather and Whitaker rate themselves that highly mate -questionmark-

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:34 PM
Are you drunk again Lance?

No, but I will be in about 4 hours.:D

bigtime9
08-17-2007, 11:35 PM
And your point is what you fucking goofy jackoff ???? I see you haven't changed much in my absence !!!

did I touch a nerve:rofl next time keep your fucking mouth closed:deal

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:35 PM
Do you think Jones, Mayweather and Whitaker rate themselves that highly mate -questionmark-

We can get to that later. Why would yo list Joe C as #1? Based off what? If it';s his SprMW reign, sorry, Ottke did it first w/ actually a better resume.

badger6
08-17-2007, 11:36 PM
No, but I will be in about 4 hours.:D

4 hours, wtf you drinking, water ???

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:38 PM
4 hours, wtf you drinking, water ???

:lol:

It's only 7:30 AK time Cut me some slack, I gotta eat first. Then it's drinky time with my friends from Wales. :good

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:38 PM
That's 4 hours too late for me. I'm already hammered ;-).

:lol:

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:38 PM
We can get to that later. Why would yo list Joe C as #1? Based off what? If it';s his SprMW reign, sorry, Ottke did it first w/ actually a better resume.They are all listed according to how good at boxing I judge them to have been -fullstop-

badger6
08-17-2007, 11:39 PM
did I touch a nerve:rofl next time keep your fucking mouth closed:deal
You don't bother me at all you idiot. By the way "BOY", you shouldn't tell someone to "keep your fucking mouth shut", if you are not physically capable of backing it up you fucking gimp.

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:41 PM
What happened to the inventive/witty avatars. This one is mundane and boring.Look closer at the belt mate -fullstop- I doubt the Danes will even notice though -fullstop-

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:41 PM
They are all listed according to how good at boxing I judge them to have been -fullstop-

And you've seen them enough to make an honest assessment w/o any bias? You're also basing how good they have looked on their opposition I hope.

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:42 PM
And you've seen them enough to make an honest assessment w/o any bias? You're also basing how good they have looked on their opposition I hope.Yes, I base it on their opposition to what I consider an appropiate extent -fullstop-

badger6
08-17-2007, 11:43 PM
Whats with the "-fullstop-" shit ???

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:44 PM
Yes, I base it on their opposition to what I consider an appropiate extent -fullstop-

Then doesn't JOe C's inferior opposition hurt his chances at being #1 over Robinson or Whitaker? Not to mention he's not as skilled as either as well.

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:47 PM
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Doh! You truly are a genius of sublety. Can't believe I actually fell for it and thought you've resorted to an ordinary av.Longcount, the photoshopping guy actually came up with this one -fullstop-

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:48 PM
Whats with the "-fullstop-" shit ???I am back on my broken keboard and despise improper punctuation -fullstop-

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:50 PM
Then doesn't JOe C's inferior opposition hurt his chances at being #1 over Robinson or Whitaker? Not to mention he's not as skilled as either as well.He opposition aren't legends admittedly, but still of sufficiant quality for such brilliant performances to indicate a sure placement amongst the very best fighters in history -fullstop-

badger6
08-17-2007, 11:51 PM
I am back on my broken keboard and despise improper punctuation -fullstop-

errrrrrrrr, Ok .,!?';,":&

Lance_Uppercut
08-17-2007, 11:52 PM
He opposition aren't legends admittedly, but still of sufficiant quality for such brilliant performances to indicate a sure placement amongst the very best fighters in history -fullstop-

Sorry, no one but you goes by that criteria. I guess anyone's fave can be the best if they make the criteria themselves. Bigtime9 sure has it down pat. :smoke

rr94
08-17-2007, 11:53 PM
Still can't figure it out though despite acknowleding that it's been tampered with. Seems like a map of Wales on the belt...or is that Britain

does JC have the WBC belt or does Kessler? hmmm


get it now?

China_hand_Joe
08-17-2007, 11:56 PM
Sorry, no one but you goes by that criteria. I guess anyone's fave can be the best if they make the criteria themselves. Bigtime9 sure has it down pat. :smokeMy criteria is basically based on who has displayed the highest level of ability to box -fullstop- I of course consider many factors including opponents when judging there -fullstop-

As I have a perfect tipping record (never made an incorrect pick ever) I am possibly the most qualified person in the world to make these assesments -fullstop-

Toopretty
08-17-2007, 11:59 PM
Oh i get it. It is Kesslers belt on Calzaghe..go ahead china. Yeah, Calzaghe is going to whoop kessler.