What would Mosley's record be if he fought PBF's level of comp? Where would he rank?

[sweet_scientist]

I take it it's a consensus choice that Mayweather is the greater fighter p4p between the two.

But let's imagine Shane had to fight Mayweather's level of competition throughout his career. How would he fare?

Would he have a loss? Would he now be considered as good as Floyd is?

It's quite obvious who has taken the path of least resistance between the two. Does that account for the gap in regard between the two?

[Russell]

Well, you can easily argue that Mosley beat Hoya cleaner, in Hoya's prime none the less, then Floyd managed to a Oscar who was slightly afterwords slaughtered. That's just to begin with.

Mosley also smashed Genaro Hernandez's nose in sparring, a damned good version of Genaro as well as opposed to the one Floyd fought. That was actually what managed came back to haunt Genaro against De La Hoya as well. So it's hard to argue that Mosley wouldn't steamroll through Genaro.

Hatton holds no advantages over Mosley. Not the strength to bully, not better/ more effective, not better bodywork, or power or a size advantage.

Judah gets outhustled down the stretch as he usually does against elite competition.

Baldomir is unfathomably limited and makes Margarito look multi-faceted.

I really do think Mosley could go 39-0 against Floyd's comp now that I think about it.

[Maxmomer]

I think Mosley would beat everyone Floyd did, and in most cases, in more impressive and exciting fashion.

[Thread Stealer]

I don't see Mosley losing to the guys Mayweather fought.

But then again, I don't see Mosley being able to make 130 either.

[sweet_scientist]

To make the thought experiment a little more relevant (given their weight differentials) let's say he had to take on a natural (though past prime) 135 pound Genaro Hernandez, a natural 135 pound Diego Corrales, a natural 140 pound Jose Luis Castillo, and a natural 147 Zab Judah and Ricky Hatton with the fights occurring at 154 (a weight class both had proved to be less than at their best), and say a natural (though past prime) 140 pound DLH with the fight occuring at 160.

I still see Mosley undfeated - and I see him knocking them all out most likely.

[PowerPuncher]

Well firstly Mosley is allot bigger than Mayweather, Shane weighed 160lb for some lightweight fights. Lets imagine a Corrales and Castillo that outweighed Mosley by 14lbs, a Delahoya who outweighed him by around 14lbs, at least 2weight classes above his best weight (so maybe a 160lb version of Delahoya where Delahoya weighs 170 and Mosley weighs 156)

Mosley still maybe takes the lot, however Mayweather would have beaten Mosley, who turned him down twice. If they squared off and he wouldn't have lost to Forrest, and I'd give him a good shot against Winky.

[196osh]

I'd give him a good shot against Winky.

Really? I would give Mayweather Jr next to no chance against Winky at 154.

[Unforgiven]

If Mosley is being rated BENEATH Mayweather because he fought a HIGHER level of opponent then the method of rating is total bullshit.

I hear it all the time on this site "X was a bit inconsistent", "Y had a short reign", "Z lost too many fights", but in many cases on further inspection we all know those were the guys who fought a high level opposition.

[PowerPuncher]

Really? I would give Mayweather Jr next to no chance against Winky at 154.

Why FMJ has much more speed, better skill, better defense and Winky is somewhat predicatable. Winky despite being bigger was hardly a big puncher at 154. The only advantage Winky has is around 4inches in height and a few inches in reach. But Quartey who's a similar size to FMJ gave Winky all kinds of problems

[sweet_scientist]

Mayweather hasn't shown me anything at either lightweight or welterweight to suggest that he beats Mosley or Forrest. Given the DLH performance I can't see how he'd have a chance in hell against Winky.

[sweet_scientist]

Why FMJ has much more speed, better skill, better defense and Winky is somewhat predicatable. Winky despite being bigger was hardly a big puncher at 154. The only advantage Winky has is around 4inches in height and a few inches in reach. But Quartey who's a similar size to FMJ gave Winky all kinds of problems

Your whole paragraph is hilarious but that last line was definitely the punch line.

[PowerPuncher]

Your whole paragraph is hilarious but that last line was definitely the punch line.

Nah the punch line is your nose, Quartey displayed better skills landed his work cleaner and lost on size/workrate

[sweet_scientist]

Nah the punch line is your nose, Quartey displayed better skills landed his work cleaner and lost on size/workrate

What is extra specially hilarious is that you spend a previous post telling us how huge Floyd's opponents like Castillo and Corrales are compared to him and then you tell us Floyd was a similar size to Ike Quartey. That my friend, is comedic GOLD :good

[PowerPuncher]

Mayweather hasn't shown me anything at either lightweight or welterweight to suggest that he beats Mosley or Forrest. Given the DLH performance I can't see how he'd have a chance in hell against Winky.

Mayweather having skills a league above Mosley and Forrest would be a good indication, Mosley wouldn't know defense if it hit him in the mouth and Forrest wouldn't know lateral movement if Mayorga was shouting 'move to your right' as he threw the left hook.

Delahoya didnt even land any clean shots in the whole fight, plus Winky isn't as aggressive or fast as Hoya

[PowerPuncher]

What is extra specially hilarious is that you spend a previous post telling us how huge Floyd's opponents like Castillo and Corrales are compared to him and then you tell us Floyd was a similar size to Ike Quartey. That my friend, is comedic GOLD :good

Quartey - 5-7, 71inch reach
Mayweather - 5-8, 72inch reach :deal

And yes FMJ was outweighed heavily but obviously he got bigger and stronger himself as sometimes fighters do as they mature

[sweet_scientist]

Mayweather having skills a league above Mosley and Forrest would be a good indication, Mosley wouldn't know defense if it hit him in the mouth and Forrest wouldn't know lateral movement if Mayorga was shouting 'move to your right' as he threw the left hook.

How many leagues were his skills above Castillo when he lost in AT LEAST half the people's opinion in the first fight and when he had to absolutely stink the house out in an unimpressive display in the rematch to get the win?

As for Floyd taking the fight to Forrest like Mayorga did, LMFAO@that. Floyd is about as different from Mayorga as you can get.

Delahoya didnt even land any clean shots in the whole fight, plus Winky isn't as aggressive or fast as HoyaWinky throws 1000 punches a fight, and against Floyd he can do so with his hands down because he has NOTHING to fear with Floyd's shitty punches. He will walk him down and stick that southpaw jab onto him all night long. Everyone bar you can see that.

[sweet_scientist]

Quartey - 5-7, 71inch reach
Mayweather - 5-8, 72inch reach :deal

And yes FMJ was outweighed heavily but obviously he got bigger and stronger himself as sometimes fighters do as they mature

Quartey has a MASSIVE weight advantage on Floyd. Bigger than Castillo's and Corrales' on Floyd, you can bank on that. I won't even mention the strength differential.

[Minotauro]

Quartey - 5-7, 71inch reach
Mayweather - 5-8, 72inch reach :deal

And yes FMJ was outweighed heavily but obviously he got bigger and stronger himself as sometimes fighters do as they mature

Quartey is a lot bigger then Mayweather and using height and reach to justify which man is bigger makes no sense in that case Floyd is bigger then Baldomir even if he was out weighed by 20+lbs according to your logic.

Baldomir - 5-7 68" reach
Mayweather - 5-8 72" reach

See it doesn't work like that.:deal

[PowerPuncher]

1. How many leagues were his skills above Castillo when he lost in AT LEAST half the people's opinion in the first fight and when he had to absolutely stink the house out in an unimpressive display in the rematch to get the win?

2. As for Floyd taking the fight to Forrest like Mayorga did, LMFAO@that. Floyd is about as different from Mayorga as you can get.

3. Winky throws 1000 punches a fight, and against Floyd he can do so with his hands down because he has NOTHING to fear with Floyd's shitty punches. He will walk him down and stick that southpaw jab onto him all night long. Everyone bar you can see that.

1. Most people can't score fights, Mayweather dominated the first 5rounds of FMJ-JLC 1 and scored the cleaner punches throughout the fight, your really going to struggle to give him less than 7rounds. Not to mention it was his first real fight at 135 (Augustus years earlier aside). Plus he fought with an injured rotator cuff in his shoulder and reportedly suffered broken ribs and as we know.

You make JLC sound like a journeyman he has wins over all the best LWs of the era in Stevie Johnston (no1), Corrales (no1), Cassamayor (future no1), Lazcano (no2), Bazan (ex no1), Diaz (top5). If you really want to give him an FMJ win that gives him 1 of the best LW resumes of all time.

2. Who said Mayweather would walk Forrest down, the point is Forrest has defensive and movement frailties that would be exploited.

3. Hatton, Delahoya, Corrales thought they had nothing to fear from Mayweather's 'shitty punches' and we watched them all got rocked to their boots time and again from flush well placed shots. What happened to Winky throwing 1000punches a round against Hopkins, Simon, Vargas?

[PowerPuncher]

Quartey has a MASSIVE weight advantage on Floyd. Bigger than Castillo's and Corrales' on Floyd, you can bank on that. I won't even mention the strength differential.

You think Quartey would put more than 17lbs on after the weight in? I wouldn't debate Quartey been stronger but he was never as good a boxer or as athletic as Mayweather. Plus he was old and rusty when Winky got to him and you could see Quartey's greater skill gave Winky problems. A aquiantance of mine knows Quartey and he took so much time off from boxing and wasn't keen on coming back because he was 'enjoying drinkin brandy and smoke cigars too much' according to him.

[Senya13]

Mosley was much too predictable and easy too hit, compared to Floyd. I would see him tasting the canvas against adjusted-for-size Judah, Corrales and Castillo, and quite probably losing to them. Mosley, while was draining to 135 lbs, wasn't very impressive.

Winky wouldn't be throwing 1000 punches a fight vs Floyd, even if he had nothing to fear for power, but he would have, as speed and accuracy a lot of times tamed supposedly tough and aggressive customers. There are too many examples in history that prove this point. Winky also didn't show the ability to adjust if the fight wasn't going the way he planned, he kept doing the same things that were not working anymore.

[sweet_scientist]

1. Most people can't score fights, Mayweather dominated the first 5rounds of FMJ-JLC 1 and scored the cleaner punches throughout the fight, your really going to struggle to give him less than 7rounds. Not to mention it was his first real fight at 135 (Augustus years earlier aside). Plus he fought with an injured rotator cuff in his shoulder and reportedly suffered broken ribs and as we know.

You make JLC sound like a journeyman he has wins over all the best LWs of the era in Stevie Johnston (no1), Corrales (no1), Cassamayor (future no1), Lazcano (no2), Bazan (ex no1), Diaz (top5). If you really want to give him an FMJ win that gives him 1 of the best LW resumes of all time.

Mayweather dominated 3 of the first 5 rounds, the other 2 were close. After that only a few more rounds were close. Give him all the close ones and he wins the fight. If you don't, he loses it.

As for Castillo's great resume, yeah it looks ok, until you also notice that he also lost to Corrales and arguably lost to Johnston (thought he did twice) and Casamayor (had Castillo by a point) as well. Then the resume doesn't look oh so impressive.

2. Who said Mayweather would walk Forrest down, the point is Forrest has defensive and movement frailties that would be exploited.Mayorga exploited his defensive weaknesses by bum rushing him. Better boxers with more standard styles were not able to. Mayweather does not box anything like Mayorga so what makes you sure he will exploit the same weaknesses in Forrest?

3. Hatton, Delahoya, Corrales thought they had nothing to fear from Mayweather's 'shitty punches' and we watched them all got rocked to their boots time and again from flush well placed shots. What happened to Winky throwing 1000punches a round against Hopkins, Simon, Vargas?He probably threw 1000 against Simon as it is, and against Vargas he actually had somehting to worry about on the way back to him. Against Hopkins his workrate came down, but he was also fighting way outside his best weight class and in any case, he was past his prime by them, as he was for Quartey fight might I add.

[sweet_scientist]

You think Quartey would put more than 17lbs on after the weight in? I wouldn't debate Quartey been stronger but he was never as good a boxer or as athletic as Mayweather. Plus he was old and rusty when Winky got to him and you could see Quartey's greater skill gave Winky problems. A aquiantance of mine knows Quartey and he took so much time off from boxing and wasn't keen on coming back because he was 'enjoying drinkin brandy and smoke cigars too much' according to him.

I'm not sure, your'e the expert on how much a fighter gains after a weigh in, I just know that Quartey looks much bigger and stronger than Castillo and Corrales.

Quartey presented problems for Winky because he had a very strong guard, but in any case, Winky won that fight without leaving second gear. I thought the fight showed that Winky was past it a little as well though, his timing was off more than it was in previous fights. Really, Wright started slowing down around the time of the Soliman fight. His last trully elite showing was against Jermain Taylor. I thought he still pushed Hopkins close, but Hopkins just did his usual punch and grab crap and basically killed the fight.

[sweet_scientist]

Mosley was much too predictable and easy too hit, compared to Floyd. I would see him tasting the canvas against adjusted-for-size Judah, Corrales and Castillo, and quite probably losing to them. Mosley, while was draining to 135 lbs, wasn't very impressive.

Winky wouldn't be throwing 1000 punches a fight vs Floyd, even if he had nothing to fear for power, but he would have, as speed and accuracy a lot of times tamed supposedly tough and aggressive customers. There are too many examples in history that prove this point. Winky also didn't show the ability to adjust if the fight wasn't going the way he planned, he kept doing the same things that were not working anymore.

Mayweather tasted the canvas against Judah anyway, and Castillo as well for that matter, even though it wasn't counted as a knockdown when Castillo rattled and broke his ribs when Floyd fell to the canvas.

Mayweather obviously has the better defense, but Mosley has power and strength advantages.

You're right Winky wouldn't throw 1000 punches against Floyd because Floyd would be doing his darnedest to run and potshot.

As for Winky not showing the ability to adjust if a fight wasn't going his way, in which fights were they? And how do they relate to a fight with Floyd Mayweather?

[PowerPuncher]

1. Mayweather dominated 3 of the first 5 rounds, the other 2 were close. After that only a few more rounds were close. Give him all the close ones and he wins the fight. If you don't, he loses it.

2. As for Castillo's great resume, yeah it looks ok, until you also notice that he also lost to Corrales and arguably lost to Johnston (thought he did twice) and Casamayor (had Castillo by a point) as well. The the resume doesn't look oh so impressive.

3. Mayorga exploited his defensive weaknesses by bum rushing him. Better boxers with a more standard styles were not able to. Mayweather does not box anything like Mayorga so what makes you sure he will exploit the same weaknesses in Forrest?

4. He probably threw 1000 against Simon as it is, and against Vargas he actually had somehting to worry about on the way back to him. Against Hopkins his workrate came down, but he was also fighting way outside his best weight class and in any case, he was past his prime by them, as he was for Quartey fight might I add.

1. Allot of the rounds of FMJ-JLC 1 were close after 5, JLC had about 4 clear rounds in the fight

2. He still fought the best of the best, no shame in having close wars with the very best of your time. TBH though I'd be suprised anyone would have Cassa and Johnston beating JLC and not FMJ in fight 1.

Should it be mentioned 2 of the men who beat him also lost to Mayweather?

3. Forrest didn't face any other top boxers other than Quartey, most had Quartey winning that and called it a robbery. Forrest is exploitable although a very good Hearnsesque fighter none the less. Who knows though maybe FMJ does walk him down, he walked Judah, Corley Mitchell down.

4. Winky's workrate came down because BHOPs set traps and threw counters, which is what FMJ would most likely do. Obviously Hopkins is bigger, far stronger but FMJ would have youth, speed, stamina on his side. Winky was past prime against Hops but at 154 he would have been a little drained at the weight. Winky at 154-60 isn't as proven as hes maken out to be. He hasn't fought that many top names, loses to Vargas/Simon (close fights), beats Mosley twice, beats an old predictable Tito, has unimpressive fights with Quartey and Soliman, draws with Taylor (who he wouldn't rematch)

FMJ did seem pretty serious about the fight in 2005 until Winky wouldn't budge on 50-50 cut

[PowerPuncher]

I'm not sure, your'e the expert on how much a fighter gains after a weigh in, I just know that Quartey looks much bigger and stronger than Castillo and Corrales.

Quartey presented problems for Winky because he had a very strong guard, but in any case, Winky won that fight without leaving second gear. I thought the fight showed that Winky was past it a little as well though, his timing was off more than it was in previous fights. Really, Wright started slowing down around the time of the Soliman fight. His last trully elite showing was against Jermain Taylor. I thought he still pushed Hopkins close, but Hopkins just did his usual punch and grab crap and basically killed the fight.

Ofcourse Quartey is bigger than Corrales/Castillo, but FMJ added 17lbs to his frame in that time so hes bigger himself

I don't think Winky faded that much against Quartey/Soliman, he was just in with trickier opperators. I just think Tito and Mosley were made for his style, just as I think both would be made for Mayweather. If truth be told I had Winky beating Taylor 7-5 though but it could have gone either way

[PowerPuncher]

Mayweather tasted the canvas against Judah anyway, and Castillo as well for that matter, even though it wasn't counted as a knockdown when Castillo rattled and broke his ribs when Floyd fell to the canvas.

Mayweather obviously has the better defense, but Mosley has power and strength advantages.

You're right Winky wouldn't throw 1000 punches against Floyd because Floyd would be doing his darnedest to run and potshot.

As for Winky not showing the ability to adjust if a fight wasn't going his way, in which fights were they? And how do they relate to a fight with Floyd Mayweather?

FMJ did have a flash off balance KD, I don't remember a legit KD against JLC though :huh

I see the fight the same way Floyd potshotting, moving, shoulder rolling and landing cleaner

[sweet_scientist]

1. Allot of the rounds of FMJ-JLC 1 were close after 5, JLC had about 4 clear rounds in the fight

They both had about 4 clear rounds each.

2. He still fought the best of the best, no shame in having close wars with the very best of your time. TBH though I'd be suprised anyone would have Cassa and Johnston beating JLC and not FMJ in fight 1.

Should it be mentioned 2 of the men who beat him also lost to Mayweather?

The best of his time were not all that great though. A lot of very good fighters nonetheless. Castillo was a very good fighter. Not as good as Mosley though. That is clear.

3. Forrest didn't face any other top boxers other than Quartey, most had Quartey winning that and called it a robbery. Forrest is exploitable although a very good Hearnsesque fighter none the less. Who knows though maybe FMJ does walk him down, he walked Judah, Corley Mitchell down.

Forrest spent the best years of his career in obscurity. He was pretty clearly past it after the Mayorga fights, and even in the Mayorga fights he looked average compared to what he had looked like before them.

I don't think Mayweather could walk him down and break him down, but he will get brave in patches, like he did against a faded Oscar.

4. Winky's workrate came down because BHOPs set traps and threw counters, which is what FMJ would most likely do. Obviously Hopkins is bigger, far stronger but FMJ would have youth, speed, stamina on his side.

Winky went after Hopkins and wasn't holding back his punches. Hopkins simply held him after every punch he threw though. Obviously you can't set a high workrate when you're bieng held half the fight.

Winky was past prime against Hops but at 154 he would have been a little drained at the weight. Winky at 154-60 isn't as proven as hes maken out to be. He hasn't fought that many top names, loses to Vargas/Simon (close fights), beats Mosley twice, beats an old predictable Tito, has unimpressive fights with Quartey and Soliman, draws with Taylor (who he wouldn't rematch)

FMJ did seem pretty serious about the fight in 2005 until Winky wouldn't budge on 50-50 cut

Winky is pretty well proven. He hasn't fought a real slick type boxer (unless you want to call Hopkins that) but he has taken on most other styles and at least held his own. To me he's only lost one fight in his career, against Vasquez when he was rather greenish, and had a couple of draws. Anyone he has officially lost to hasn't been a mug either.

[sweet_scientist]

Ofcourse Quartey is bigger than Corrales/Castillo, but FMJ added 17lbs to his frame in that time so hes bigger himself

I don't think Winky faded that much against Quartey/Soliman, he was just in with trickier opperators. I just think Tito and Mosley were made for his style, just as I think both would be made for Mayweather. If truth be told I had Winky beating Taylor 7-5 though but it could have gone either way

Mayweather might have added weight, but that doesn't make him a natural at those weights, as we was at the weights against Corrales and (to a lesser extent) Castillo.

As for Wright not bieng past it against Quartey and Soliman, well agree to disagree.

[sweet_scientist]

FMJ did have a flash off balance KD, I don't remember a legit KD against JLC though :huh

I see the fight the same way Floyd potshotting, moving, shoulder rolling and landing cleaner

I can;t remember what round it was but Castillo clubs Floyd to the body and then they sort of tangle and Floyd goes down, in the first fight. Wasn't called a knockdown but it could have been. I think Floyd's riib was broken right there in that body shot.

[Senya13]

What happened when Mosley increase the tempo? Winky didn't change anything. What happened when Hopkins completely took away his jab? He didn't know what to do. Winky doesn't know how to adjust.

As for Mosley, yeah he had all those stoppages, but looking at actual fights, he wasn't a KO puncher, he stopped by quantity, not by quality. And he was pretty durable fighting smaller men, so he could win actual wars. He wasn't outboxing, he was outpunching them using handspeed. People are making too much out of Margarito fight, thinking him more clever than he really was (based on 15-20 his fights I've seen).

[sweet_scientist]

What happened when Mosley increase the tempo? Winky didn't change anything. What happened when Hopkins completely took away his jab? He didn't know what to do. Winky doesn't know how to adjust.

Winky beat Shane comfortably both times. That he even put his hands down to give Shave a free swing let's you know how interested he was in that fight. He was totally in control, even though Shane had his moments.

Against Hopkins he still outlanded him, and would have done more so if Bernard wasn't holding him after each exchange. The problem was that he was out of his weight class more than anything , and was sluggish with his punches.

As for Mosley, yeah he had all those stoppages, but looking at actual fights, he wasn't a KO puncher, he stopped by quantity, not by quality. And he was pretty durable fighting smaller men, so he could win actual wars. He wasn't outboxing, he was outpunching them using handspeed. People are making too much out of Margarito fight, thinking him more clever than he really was (based on 15-20 his fights I've seen).I'm not. Never rated Margarito myself, and I thought Shane looked average against him, even though he won. Shane has been past it for years now, it's just that the current 'stacked' welterweight division is so lame that they are allowing him to survive and thrive.

[Xplosive]

Against Floyd's comp? LOL please! Shane would have been unbeaten!

I loved Chico Corrales, but had he fought Mosley at 135... Shane might have ended his life before that accident did.

[DINAMITA]

I take it it's a consensus choice that Mayweather is the greater fighter p4p between the two.

But let's imagine Shane had to fight Mayweather's level of competition throughout his career. How would he fare?

Would he have a loss? Would he now be considered as good as Floyd is?

It's quite obvious who has taken the path of least resistance between the two. Does that account for the gap in regard between the two?

I think Shane would've lost to Carlos Baldomir. :-(






Floyd's resume is horribly overrated.

[SteveO]

Mosley would be ranked higher than PBF based solely on being more engaging in his personality.

[sweet_scientist]

I think Shane would've lost to Carlos Baldomir. :-(






Floyd's resume is horribly overrated.

Ain't it the truth.

[SugarRay]

Shane would be undefeated if he fought Floyd's level of competition. The other way to look at it is how would floyd have stood up if he fought the same guys Shane did? I'm convinced Floyd wouldn't be undefeated.

[Flea Man]

I haven't bothered answering the question as I rate Mosley above Floyd. Simple as that.

[Flea Man]

Winky beat Shane comfortably both times. That he even put his hands down to give Shave a free swing let's you know how interested he was in that fight. He was totally in control, even though Shane had his moments.

Against Hopkins he still outlanded him, and would have done more so if Bernard wasn't holding him after each exchange. The problem was that he was out of his weight class more than anything , and was sluggish with his punches.

I'm not. Never rated Margarito myself, and I thought Shane looked average against him, even though he won. Shane has been past it for years now, it's just that the current 'stacked' welterweight division is so lame that they are allowing him to survive and thrive.

Whether or not you rated Margarito, Shane was awesome in that fight. Some of his punches could not be seen without the aid of slo-mo, for a 37 year old man to do that, you can't look average surely.

[sweet_scientist]

Whether or not you rated Margarito, Shane was awesome in that fight. Some of his punches could not be seen without the aid of slo-mo, for a 37 year old man to do that, you can't look average surely.

I think he looked a couple rungs below prime form, so he didn't impress me with what he showed. Was it still outstanding FOR A 37 YEAR OLD? Yeah, sure.

[Calroid]

Mosley would be 39-0 with a better KO percentage.

[faisal]

mosely vs prime 2001 castillio wouldv been interesting

[MAG1965]

I take it it's a consensus choice that Mayweather is the greater fighter p4p between the two.

But let's imagine Shane had to fight Mayweather's level of competition throughout his career. How would he fare?

Would he have a loss? Would he now be considered as good as Floyd is?

It's quite obvious who has taken the path of least resistance between the two. Does that account for the gap in regard between the two?
He would be in the same place Floyd is at. A guy who did not fight the best, but beat them all and looked dominant. This is a very good question actually. I think Shane would dominate all the guys who Floyd beat, and probably stop some of them which Floyd didn't. Shane might look a little more worn out after the fights, but get earlier stoppages.

[KOTF]

41-0, he'd even beat himself

[Addie]

Shane Mosley would be undefeated and we'd have to listen to him going, "Well it's like this...40 have tried...and 40 have failed. There's no blueprint to beat me".

[Boxed Ears]

Shane Mosley would be undefeated and we'd have to listen to him going, "Well it's like this...40 have tried...and 40 have failed. There's no blueprint to beat me".

I don't think Shane would be that obnoxious. Or have a gay lover hanging around named Leonard always behind him, every step of the way.

[anarci]

[quote=Russell;3437644

Mosley also smashed Genaro Hernandez's nose in sparring, a damned good version of Genaro as well as opposed to the one Floyd fought. That was actually what managed came back to haunt Genaro against De La Hoya as well. So it's hard to argue that Mosley wouldn't steamroll through Genaro.
.[/quote] Ive seen Shane and Genaro spar with Zack Padilla and around that same time Genaro and Shane were sparring i never did catch those 2 but according to some of the guys i know that did witness it, they say those 2 would go at it pretty even. Genaro just got caught with a great shot.

I do agree with you though that Shane would be undeafeated against Floyds foes.

[lefthook31]

Zab Judah would have given Mosley hell in my opinion.

[Godfather]

Zab Judah would have given Mosley hell in my opinion.

Maybe for 3 rounds. After that Mosley stops him

[Popkins]

I take it it's a consensus choice that Mayweather is the greater fighter p4p between the two.

But let's imagine Shane had to fight Mayweather's level of competition throughout his career. How would he fare?

Would he have a loss? Would he now be considered as good as Floyd is?

It's quite obvious who has taken the path of least resistance between the two. Does that account for the gap in regard between the two?

Mosley would be undefeated IMO. And if Floyd had fought Shane's comp, he would have two losses to Winky Wright, and perhaps a loss or two to Oscar De La Hoya. I rank Mayweather higher than Shane, but I see the TS's point for sure.

[emallini]

Dela Hoya outboxed Mosley at 154

[emallini]

id give castillo a shot at running mosley close on points

[Popkins]

Zab Judah would have given Mosley hell in my opinion.

For a few rounds yes, until Zab Judah remembers he is Zab Judah and mentally implodes. No way is he going to go 12 rounds with a relentless prime Shane Mosley without submitting at some stage in the fight.