View Full Version : could prime liddell ko fedor
brandon9624
02-14-2009, 02:25 AM
If Liddell was in his prime or just simply regained his power, could he have beaten Fedor? This is not too far fetched when you consider prime Liddell has a two inch height advantage, reach advantage, great counter puncher to wide shots, and perfect takedown defense. This is really not even a fantasy matchup when you consider the UFC guys tended to cut more weight than the Pride fighters.
Big T
02-14-2009, 02:28 AM
I would say no..and for this fact. A prime Liddell couldn't be a prime Jackson, and I woudn't take Jackson over Fedor. This is a logic that has flaws, but this is what a arm chair guy like myself thinks. Good fight? Yes, but I don't think He would beat him.
Could he KO Fedor? Sure, I think Liddell could KO just about anyone on the planet if he caught them. Would he KO Fedor? Doubtful. Fedor's faced better and more well-rounded strikers. His ground game would overwhelm Liddell.
brandon9624
02-14-2009, 03:13 AM
I considered the same thing about the Jackson losses before posting, but that's what makes boxing and MMA so interesting, any fighter can win at any time. Everyone thought Liddell was washed up, and he destroys wanderlei, everyone thought wandy was washed up and he destroys Jardine (who IMO lost decision to Chuck). Fedor no doubt destroys Rampage in 1st round, makes loss to Shogun look like a tickle fight.
ufoalf
02-14-2009, 04:56 AM
Could he KO him? Yea, he has all the tools. Would he beat him? You can't bet against someone who's faced best in the world and never lost. Everyone Fedor faced that were top10 had/has a shot at beating. That's the bottom line.
Polymath
02-14-2009, 05:33 AM
No, he was always pretty slow and Fedor is pretty fast.
robert ungurean
02-14-2009, 10:17 AM
If Liddell was in his prime or just simply regained his power, could he have beaten Fedor? This is not too far fetched when you consider prime Liddell has a two inch height advantage, reach advantage, great counter puncher to wide shots, and perfect takedown defense. This is really not even a fantasy matchup when you consider the UFC guys tended to cut more weight than the Pride fighters.
Your kidding right?
As soon as the UFC put Chuck in with guys that had some good Boxing skill he got beat.
québecwarrior
02-14-2009, 11:01 AM
Fedor's hand are too fast for even a Prime Liddell. But its no disrespect to Liddell, I mean, its fuckin Fedor!
I hate these woulda , coulda, can he, threads. Fact is we will probably never know but odds are Fedor cliches, chucks Chuck to the matt then pummels him for 10 seconds until he is out cold.
RUSKULL
02-14-2009, 12:43 PM
Very unlikely but anything's possible with Liddel's power & unorthodx style.
Cameron
02-14-2009, 03:13 PM
no as we have seen and known for years his striking is very loopy and slopy. the only reason he was doing so well a couple years back was because he was fighting only grapplers. if AA with his very technical and fast striking couldnt do it liddel with his sloppy strikes would get fucking dumbied
jsalerno
02-14-2009, 07:49 PM
If Liddell was in his prime or just simply regained his power, could he have beaten Fedor? This is not too far fetched when you consider prime Liddell has a two inch height advantage, reach advantage, great counter puncher to wide shots, and perfect takedown defense. This is really not even a fantasy matchup when you consider the UFC guys tended to cut more weight than the Pride fighters.
Fedor has faught choi and shilt who may as well had a 1 metre height advantage - and Zulu who had a tonne weight advantage look where it got them. These 'hypotheticals' are always flawed but I look at it this way - do you think prime Lidell could beat prime Cro Cop - I doubt it very much - I think it woudl be a fight similar to a cross between sylvia and arlovski.
SouthpawSlayer
02-14-2009, 10:43 PM
yes of course sure chuck is the heardest hitter in all of the ufc, he hits so hard fedor wouldnt have a chance, chuck wins 100 times out of 100
scurlaruntings
02-15-2009, 07:20 AM
This is a bit of a pointless thread. You may as well ask could Kermit Cintron KO Fedor. He is after all human. Such analogies are pointless as all being equal of course theres a possibility. But is it probable? I thnk we know the answer to that..
MaliSlamusrex
02-15-2009, 09:09 AM
can he = yes, would he = no
HomicideHenry
02-15-2009, 04:21 PM
Just because Liddell knocked out heavyweight Couture, doesnt mean he could knock out Fedor, unless Fedor let him do it! Fedor would stop Liddell, prime or present, inside the first round.
rydersonthestorm
02-15-2009, 05:19 PM
i could ko fedor, would it happen of course not but nobody is un ko-able not even hunt or a boxer like mccall
brandon9624
02-16-2009, 01:19 AM
Sorry, this thread should have been "anyone think prime Liddell would have ko'd Fedor?". I think in '04, after ufc 47's destruction of Ortiz, and ufc 52's severe beating of Couture, Liddell's momentum could have helped him beat anybody. I think if it turned into a melee like the CroCop fight, Liddell would catch him.
The inevitable will happen eventually, Fedor will stay in the game too long, lose by knockout to someone he should beat, and they'll want to pair him up with other great fighters past their prime to keep him marketable, i.e. Liddell vs. Shogun.
What's the chance a Liddell/Fedor fight would happen if 1.Liddell gets another good knockout win 2. Fedor loses by knockout to lesser opponent. I would rather see this than Couture vs. Fedor imo
Beebs
02-17-2009, 12:33 AM
Could he KO Fedor? Sure, I think Liddell could KO just about anyone on the planet if he caught them. Would he KO Fedor? Doubtful. Fedor's faced better and more well-rounded strikers. His ground game would overwhelm Liddell.
Yea.
Could he as in "does he have the power to?" Yes.
Could he as in "would he do it in a fight?" Not likely, possible, but not likely.
Vitor Belfort
02-17-2009, 02:34 AM
No i think liddell striking is overrated. Yes he has power to hurt fedor but i dont think he could knock him out. When Liddell was on top of the world during his championship reign. He was fighting against wrestlers and BJJ fighters. Horn-babalu-Coture-Ortiz are all ground fighters (Wrestler-BJJ)
That's why he look so good against them. They try for a take down and he stopped them. So now they have to strike with him. Couture striking was not as good back then. Ortiz-horn-babalu are not known for their striking.
You put him against a beast who has no weakness in fedor and he will get KTFO. Look at what fedor did to the last 2 UFC heavyweight champion. He knock them out in less than 4 minutes combined:good
FEDOR IS NOT HUMAN :shock::D:D
Aniki
02-17-2009, 05:57 AM
Fedor wins anywhere by anything. Fedor by meatslap.
ozziebattler
02-18-2009, 12:44 AM
I dont know why people bother starting threads like these...
Until Fedor actually loses a bout without any cut stoppage bullshit etc no1 will go against the notion that Fedor is unbeatable...
He is the current god like figure who's nuts all us mma followers ride so lets not bother with could this guy beat,ko whatever fedor...
Bill Butcher
02-20-2009, 01:28 PM
Could he KO Fedor? Sure, I think Liddell could KO just about anyone on the planet if he caught them. Would he KO Fedor? Doubtful. Fedor's faced better and more well-rounded strikers. His ground game would overwhelm Liddell.
Yep, this post just about covers what I had to say. :good
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