Is Kessler another Lacy??

[Clearly Cool]

Yay or nay?

[KO Boxing]

Nay

[kg0208]

Nay

[Kess]

Nay

[Brand]

nay

[hellblazer]

Nay

[Korn_06]

Nay.

Kessler might loose that is a possiblility, however it will not be a shotout like Lacy.

[Half-Dane]

Nay.

Kessler might loose that is a possiblility, however it will not be a shotout like Lacy.
What he said

[nrgetic]

Kessler has a mean jab whereas Lacy just walked up to Calzaghe without any jab so there is a huge difference. Kessler is painfully patient and conservative whereas Lacy fought without a plan. However, Calzaghe's lateral movement confounded Lacy and the same thing could happen to Kessler as Kessler is a little linear and rigid in his movement. The answer could be either yay or nay but for the reasons I have stated

[*BOX_FAN*]

Nay

[satyriion]

Nay

[pecks]

No (I refuse to say nay). I'm fairly confident that even if Kessler loses, he will get another couple of world titles down the track, and he should still eventually get into the top 10 p4p list.

[Decebal]

No (I refuse to say nay

:lol: why?:think

[Amsterdam]

Nay.

Kessler might loose that is a possiblility, however it will not be a shotout like Lacy.


Kessler is better suited for a long and impressive career, which will in turn look better on Calzaghe's resume, but Kessler will be brutally dominated and stopped late.

[PeterNielsen70]

Lacy was way to slow and no-dimensional. He tried for 12 rounds to come in on Joe with pathetic delivered left hooks. A lot of credit to Calzaghe, of course, for fighting very smart. First delivering a couple of fast combos and then some clinching and spinning Lacy around in a dance - leaving Lacy all bewildered. But in his next fight, he will face a moving target that strikes back. :bbb

[Scar]

This will be a tough fight and nothing even close to the Lacy fight, I assure you that. To those who think it'll be easy for Calzaghe you're in for a shock, Calzaghe will emerge victorious in my opinion but in a tough war.

[Amsterdam]

Lacy was way to slow and no-dimensional. He tried for 12 rounds to come in on Joe with pathetic delivered left hooks. A lot of credit to Calzaghe, of course, for fighting very smart. First delivering a couple of fast combos and then some clinching and spinning Lacy around in a dance - leaving Lacy all bewildered. But in his next fight, he will face a moving target that strikes back. :bbb

Lacy was not totally ineffective, he did get in some of his best shots and some well placed counters to the body and head, no combo's granted, because nobody has landed combinations flush on Calzaghe, but some good shots.

Lacy did try to jab his way in, you just don't understand that Calzaghe is excellent at neutralising a jab and that a counter lead right is what he's really vulnerable to, which Lacy did land, to no effect I might add and we all know Kessler is an even lesser hitter punch for punch than Lacy.

Kessler will land some of his best, but Calzaghe has a great chin, he's eaten massive shots and has fired back with his best, it will be no different here. What amazes me though is how everyone discounts Calzaghe stunning and dropping Kessler, when Kessler has shown that he doesn't like being hit and that he doesn't like pressure and we know very little about his actual chin. What we do know is that Calzaghe at his best can hit pretty decent, he was stunning Lacy all night and I believe those same shots would have at least put Kessler on the floor.

The more and more heated it becomes, the more and more it goes into Calzaghe's game and Kessler becomes more overly cautious and therefore opens himself up to allow the thrashing to commense until the fight is stopped.

[pecks]

Lacy was not totally ineffective, he did get in some of his best shots and some well placed counters to the body and head, no combo's granted, because nobody has landed combinations flush on Calzaghe, but some good shots.

Lacy did try to jab his way in, you just don't understand that Calzaghe is excellent at neutralising a jab and that a counter lead right is what he's really vulnerable to, which Lacy did land, to no effect I might add and we all know Kessler is an even lesser hitter punch for punch than Lacy.

Kessler will land some of his best, but Calzaghe has a great chin, he's eaten massive shots and has fired back with his best, it will be no different here. What amazes me though is how everyone discounts Calzaghe stunning and dropping Kessler, when Kessler has shown that he doesn't like being hit and that he doesn't like pressure and we know very little about his actual chin. What we do know is that Calzaghe at his best can hit pretty decent, he was stunning Lacy all night and I believe those same shots would have at least put Kessler on the floor.

The more and more heated it becomes, the more and more it goes into Calzaghe's game and Kessler becomes more overly cautious and therefore opens himself up to allow the thrashing to commense until the fight is stopped.Kessler will beat Calzaghe so bad, that afterwards people will be asking...what if Thysse fought Calzaghe? :p

[Amsterdam]

This will be a tough fight and nothing even close to the Lacy fight, I assure you that. To those who think it'll be easy for Calzaghe you're in for a shock, Calzaghe will emerge victorious in my opinion but in a tough war.

No, this will probably even make Lacy's attempt against Calzaghe look better, because while he got brutally shutout, he made a valiant attempt, Kessler is just going to go into a shell against the speed and awkwardness and then get thrashed until either he falls or the corner throws in the towel after he's bruised, cut and bloody.

This is a mismatch stylistically, I am excited for it because it's yet another deserved legacy win and then we can maybe set up a meeting with Chad Dawson(which your prediction above is probably on target with Dawson-Calz). Dawson is a 50/50 fight, an awesome fight at that, win or lose I want it.

[Scar]

No, this will probably even make Lacy's attempt against Calzaghe look better, because while he got brutally shutout, he made a valiant attempt, Kessler is just going to go into a shell against the speed and awkwardness and then get thrashed until either he falls or the corner throws in the towel after he's bruised, cut and bloody.

This is a mismatch stylistically, I am excited for it because it's yet another deserved legacy win and then we can maybe set up a meeting with Chad Dawson(which your prediction above is probably on target with Dawson-Calz). Dawson is a 50/50 fight, an awesome fight at that, win or lose I want it.

I'd love to see him fight Dawson as well, very good fight for Calzaghe. Would love to see how he'll do against someone like Dawson at this stage of his career.

[ozziebattler]

Nay.......Kessler is white european

Lacy is african american


Oh and kessler is going to beat calzaghe....It will be great...

[Amsterdam]

I'd love to see him fight Dawson as well, very good fight for Calzaghe. Would love to see how he'll do against someone like Dawson at this stage of his career.

That is a fight that I'd not bet on, because it would likely be 'controversial decision' going in either direction. The good news is that ****** and Showtime both expressed interest in Calzaghe/Dawson when the Kessler fight is over, so maybe that would happen.

If not, then I'd like to see a final unification with the IBF guy(probably Bute) and then a farewell match against a P4P level guy, maybe Taylor, but I doubt that DiBella signs over Taylor for this one stylistically. Or maybe it's Pavlik at that time, who knows mate.:good

[ozziebattler]

Lacy was not totally ineffective, he did get in some of his best shots and some well placed counters to the body and head, no combo's granted, because nobody has landed combinations flush on Calzaghe, but some good shots.

Lacy did try to jab his way in, you just don't understand that Calzaghe is excellent at neutralising a jab and that a counter lead right is what he's really vulnerable to, which Lacy did land, to no effect I might add and we all know Kessler is an even lesser hitter punch for punch than Lacy.

Kessler will land some of his best, but Calzaghe has a great chin, he's eaten massive shots and has fired back with his best, it will be no different here. What amazes me though is how everyone discounts Calzaghe stunning and dropping Kessler, when Kessler has shown that he doesn't like being hit and that he doesn't like pressure and we know very little about his actual chin. What we do know is that Calzaghe at his best can hit pretty decent, he was stunning Lacy all night and I believe those same shots would have at least put Kessler on the floor.

The more and more heated it becomes, the more and more it goes into Calzaghe's game and Kessler becomes more overly cautious and therefore opens himself up to allow the thrashing to commense until the fight is stopped.

Have you and joe dated???

Or atleast had sex with eachother??

[Stickandmove]

Nay. I will be shocked if Calzaghe dominates Kessler in the same way as he dominated Lacy who believed in his own hype, was over reliant on his left hook power and seemed unable to change his gameplan or fight style.

Kessler seems to have no weaknesses as such; the only question is whether he can deal with Calzaghe's speed and style.

I find it easier to identify weaknesses in Calzaghe actually; frequent hand trouble, allowing himself to be drawn in to brawls, and being open to right hands.

Also, Calzaghe is older than when he fought Lacy and has been through that war with Sakio Bika.

It is possible to imagine a situation where Calzaghe gets decked by a Kessler right hand, gets up, fires back but damages his hand in the process. Kessler is no Evans Ashira - Calzaghe will never beat him with one hand. Calzaghe will bravely fight on but, falling behind on points and taking too much punishment, his Dad Enzo will pull him out between rounds as Joe protests that he wants to continue. Afterwards, he'll realise that his Dad did the right thing and he'll have to decide whether to retire or go for the rematch. His pride will say rematch but retirement will be the smart and right option.

Well, it's a definite possibility! You heard it here first!

[Amsterdam]

Have you and joe dated???

Or atleast had sex with eachother??

Give me a reason why my analysation is wrong, other than the fact that you don't like Calzaghe and want to see him lose.

[Scar]

That is a fight that I'd not bet on, because it would likely be 'controversial decision' going in either direction. The good news is that ****** and Showtime both expressed interest in Calzaghe/Dawson when the Kessler fight is over, so maybe that would happen.

If not, then I'd like to see a final unification with the IBF guy(probably Bute) and then a farewell match against a P4P level guy, maybe Taylor, but I doubt that DiBella signs over Taylor for this one stylistically. Or maybe it's Pavlik at that time, who knows mate.:good

I'd rather see Calzaghe call it quits after Kessler even though I'd love to see him continue, but enough is enough in my opinion and if he was able to succeed for this long then he's better off quitting before he does the hard painful way. We can both agree on this fact, if Calzaghe loses one fight he's instantly called an overrated bum by the majority so any Calzaghe fight is risky for his reputaiton, not to forget that he's not that young anymore either. Either a fight with Dawson or retire if he beats Kessler next, I know a fight with Hopkins is possible, if that can happen then he can go for that and retire a champion after it.

[Scar]

Have you and joe dated???

Or atleast had sex with eachother??

Wow, what a reply there. Desperate or something? :huh

[Half-Dane]

Being a complete amateur here, but couldn't this fight turn out like Hamed - Barrera in 2001. The awkward fighter being Calzaghe

[Half-Dane]

Being a complete amateur here, but couldn't this fight turn out like Hamed - Barrera in 2001. The awkward fighter being Calzaghe

Sorry there is all ready a thread for that topic [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Amsterdam]

I'd rather see Calzaghe call it quits after Kessler even though I'd love to see him continue, but enough is enough in my opinion and if he was able to succeed for this long then he's better off quitting before he does the hard painful way. We can both agree on this fact, if Calzaghe loses one fight he's instantly called an overrated bum by the majority so any Calzaghe fight is risky for his reputaiton, not to forget that he's not that young anymore either. Either a fight with Dawson or retire if he beats Kessler next, I know a fight with Hopkins is possible, if that can happen then he can go for that and retire a champion after it.

He said he only wants 2 more after Kessler, if he trashes Kessler badly like I am predicting and looks great, why not?

He's been in no wars and the guys a freak physically in terms of reflexes and takes care of himself well. If he looks great and feels fine, he should take two more legacy fights and really define himself as one of the best of the generation.

A unification with Bute would be a good start.

[Stickandmove]

Being a complete amateur here, but couldn't this fight turn out like Hamed - Barrera in 2001. The awkward fighter being Calzaghe

Calzaghe throws combinations while Hamed was generally looking for the one big shot against Barrera.

Calzaghe is better than Hamed (although Hamed a much bigger puncher), and Barrera is better than Kessler.

So, I'd be amazed if this is anything like Hamed - Barrera.

[dumdane]

Kessler is better suited for a long and impressive career, which will in turn look better on Calzaghe's resume, but Kessler will be brutally dominated and stopped late.

Damn youre working yourself into a corner on this one Amsterdam:D

[Stickandmove]

He said he only wants 2 more after Kessler, if he trashes Kessler badly like I am predicting and looks great, why not?

He's been in no wars and the guys a freak physically in terms of reflexes and takes care of himself well. If he looks great and feels fine, he should take two more legacy fights and really define himself as one of the best of the generation.

A unification with Bute would be a good start.

If Calzaghe beats Kessler, he should fight Hopkins for the light heavyweight title and then retire.

That would be the perfect end in my opinion - he's always wanted to be a 2 division champion, fight a big name legend like Hopkins, get the credit he deserves and retire undefeated.

Why fight Dawson, Bute etc? Potentially great fights - maybe. But it's too late in his career and not worth the risk.

Hopefully he'll have the same good sense as the man who preceded him - Steve Collins. Collins wanted Roy Jones, but ended up being offered the fight against Calzaghe. He made the right decision and retired. Hopefully Calzaghe will get the dream fight he wants (Hopkins) but, if not, he should retire rather than fight anyone too dangerous and unknown like Dawson or Bute etc.

[UndisputedUK]

Collins was there at the right time. His toughness and ring savvy was enough for Eubank and Benn at that point in their careers. Collins would have liked a really big money fight, but a few hundred grand for losing to Calzaghe would have been pointless.

[Decebal]

If Calzaghe beats Kessler, he should fight Hopkins for the light heavyweight title and then retire.

That would be the perfect end in my opinion - he's always wanted to be a 2 division champion, fight a big name legend like Hopkins, get the credit he deserves and retire undefeated.

Why fight Dawson, Bute etc? Potentially great fights - maybe. But it's too late in his career and not worth the risk.



It is precisely not big names that JC should fight - it is the dangerous, live opponents, not the have beens with resonant names...that he should fight...it might not help him get further up the Ring rankings, but..who cares - boxing fans will know the difference and an unbiased history will judge him much more kindly, than if he just ticks off another old, big, beast.

[Stickandmove]

Collins was there at the right time. His toughness and ring savvy was enough for Eubank and Benn at that point in their careers. Collins would have liked a really big money fight, but a few hundred grand for losing to Calzaghe would have been pointless.

Agreed :cool:

[Stickandmove]

It is precisely not big names that JC should fight - it is the dangerous, live opponents, not the have beens with resonant names...that he should fight...it might not help him get further up the Ring rankings, but..who cares - boxing fans will know the difference and an unbiased history will judge him much more kindly, than if he just ticks off another old, big, beast.

I totally see your point. But, I think it's too late for Calzaghe to start fighting young, hungry, dangerous unknowns. Apart from Kessler of course :smooch

How many of those fights does he have left in him? Is it worth the risk?

Hopkins is still a dangerous, creditable opponent (Hopkins might even be the favorite?) and it would be worth the risk.

[UndisputedUK]

I remember during one of Calzaghe's fight, it may have been the Bika one, that Kessler unified the title against Beyer and that it was shown on TV.

Kessler looked impressive in that fight, but Beyer looked really poor. I know Catley knocked out Beyer, but exactly how much better is Calzaghe than Beyer in every department?

[Amsterdam]

You starts to sound a bit nervous!;)

Not at all, I'm digging myself in a nasty hole if this isn't the case, but I am doing so calmly and arrogantly, I'm not even the least bit concerned.:yep

...I just got tired of objectivity, it got old.

[Odo]

Yay or nay?

Lacy is a quite one-dimensional and predictable fighter whereas Kessler is fairly good in almost all departments.

[PeterNielsen70]

Kessler resembles Lacy a lot – but that is only in his sleep, and not in the boxing ring. :hey

[THN]

No way! even if Kessler loose there will be no similarities to Lacy.
Kessler is doing it perfect in boxing style, and i am sure he will stay cool, when Calzahge begin with he's pub style figthing.
Then he will take Calzaghe apart with straight punches, Calzaghe will be more and more desperat and the punishment will increase, until he gives up sitting in he's corner.

[eltabarnacos]

nay

[brooklyn1550]

Nay

[thewoo]

All I can say is if Calzzage spanks kessler the way he spanked lacy, people better give him his respect and not come out with the same shit saying that Kessler was overhyped and never that good to begin with and Calzage only took the fight because he knew it would be an easy win.

[dumdane]

All I can say is if Calzzage spanks kessler the way he spanked lacy, people better give him his respect and not come out with the same shit saying that Kessler was overhyped and never that good to begin with and Calzage only took the fight because he knew it would be an easy win.

IF Calzaghe spanks Kessler as bad as he did Lacy, ppl WILL say Kessler was all hype. I just doubt very much that will happen.
Calzaghe might win. He might even TKO Kessler, if things really go his way - But how i see it, no way is he gonna dominate Kessler as easily as he did Lacy while it lasts.

[Smazz20]

NAY

Calzaghe comfy UD. I'm even willing to say that both men will visit the canvas at some stage.

[Max Molyneux]

No, but Kessler's still getting a whoopin.

[PolishPummler]

Nay.

Kessler is much more disciplined and balanced as a fighter all around.

[Astola]

No, this will probably even make Lacy's attempt against Calzaghe look better, because while he got brutally shutout, he made a valiant attempt, Kessler is just going to go into a shell against the speed and awkwardness and then get thrashed until either he falls or the corner throws in the towel after he's bruised, cut and bloody.

This is a mismatch stylistically, I am excited for it because it's yet another deserved legacy win and then we can maybe set up a meeting with Chad Dawson(which your prediction above is probably on target with Dawson-Calz). Dawson is a 50/50 fight, an awesome fight at that, win or lose I want it.


Amsterdam - youre seriously loosing it.

Kessler is hell for Calzaghe stylistically. yet - Calzaghe is hell for anybody because hes so awkward and unpredictable.

Still - Kessler will bring something to the ring that Joe havent faced before.

Flawless orthodox style with power, speed, ring generalship, intelligence, stamina, workrate, combinations that none of Joe's previous oponents had.

Kessler is a boxing God.

(Eubank was over the hill and tried to showoff and got tagged in the 1'st influencing the fight.)

Lacy is half the fighter of MK.

[Amsterdam]

Amsterdam - youre seriously loosing it.

But I'm having fun while I'm at it.:D


Kessler is hell for Calzaghe stylistically. yet - Calzaghe is hell for anybody because hes so awkward and unpredictable.


Kessler is not hell for Calzaghe stylistically, cautiousness is death against a swarmer. Aside from that, he doesn't struggle that badly with stand up fighters considering he's thrashed everyone that he has fought, the Reid comparison is not valid because Reid is not a stand up boxer.


Still - Kessler will bring something to the ring that Joe havent faced before.


If it's a competitive war, so be it, that brings better legacy points to both guys in the eyes of dumb boxing fans and the dumb media, rather than either totally thrashing the other, isn't that stupid?:yep


Flawless orthodox style with power, speed, ring generalship, intelligence, stamina, workrate, combinations that none of Joe's previous oponents had.


I agree, I love watching MK.

Kessler is a boxing God.

And Calzaghe is supernatural.


(Eubank was over the hill and tried to showoff and got tagged in the 1'st influencing the fight.)


Calzaghe was very green, thus why the win is impressive.


Lacy is half the fighter of MK.


I'd say 2/3rd.:yep

[Astola]

But I'm having fun while I'm at it.:D



Kessler is not hell for Calzaghe stylistically, cautiousness is death against a swarmer. Aside from that, he doesn't struggle that badly with stand up fighters considering he's thrashed everyone that he has fought, the Reid comparison is not valid because Reid is not a stand up boxer.



If it's a competitive war, so be it, that brings better legacy points to both guys in the eyes of dumb boxing fans and the dumb media, rather than either totally thrashing the other, isn't that stupid?:yep



I agree, I love watching MK.



And Calzaghe is supernatural.



Calzaghe was very green, thus why the win is impressive.



I'd say 2/3rd.:yep

Nope (hell is a strong word)but I'll say that a stand up fighter with good reflexes, strenght and an excellent ability to keep opponents at distance is as close to a difficult style for Calzaghe as can be.

Lacy was tailor made for Joe.


The rest of your post:
Good to see you totally redeem yourself right away. :D :D :D

[Astola]

BTW I agree that Kessler coud become too cautios. if so - it will be his downfall. Thats one of the things I fear for MK 3/11.

[DanePugilist]

Yes, of course he is another Lacy.

They are both black.
Their best weapon is the left hook.
They are both equally green behind the ears.
Both use thier physic to pressure their opponents.
Neither use boxing smarts to win fights.
Both are easy to tag.

Actually they are one and the same. Jeffkel "Viking Hook" Lacssler

[Astola]

Yes, of course he is another Lacy.

They are both black.
Their best weapon is the left hook.
They are both equally green behind the ears.
Both use thier physic to pressure their opponents.
Neither use boxing smarts to win fights.
Both are easy to tag.

Actually they are one and the same. Jeffkel "Viking Hook" Lacssler


:good

[compukiller]

Yes, of course he is another Lacy.

They are both black.
Their best weapon is the left hook.
They are both equally green behind the ears.
Both use thier physic to pressure their opponents.
Neither use boxing smarts to win fights.
Both are easy to tag.

Actually they are one and the same. Jeffkel "Viking Hook" Lacssler



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[Amsterdam]

BTW I agree that Kessler coud become too cautios. if so - it will be his downfall. Thats one of the things I fear for MK 3/11.

Well, that's why I am so confident of the victory on my side mate, because I know it's going to happen against someone like JC if anyone.

Kessler even has a better chance against the more paced Chad Dawson... anyway, he beats everybody else around 160-175 except for JC and Dawson in my opinion, the loss won't be a big deal at all.

But you had to like my comment on the dumb boxing fans, if it's a close competitive war, winner doesn't even matter because both get credit, if JC or MK both blow one or the other out, dumb boxing fans over here will discredit that win as lesser than the war, that's how fucking dumb they are at times.

Imagine if Jermain Taylor jumped up and beat Lacy in a razor thin fight after he got the decisions over old man Hopkins, he'd be P4P # 1.:rofl

But JC's annihilation is lesser.:yep

Hell, Jermain Taylor wouldn't beat Lacy, Bute, Mundine, Andrade and especially not MK and JC, yet that joker is in the P4P rankings for having close fights with two guys that have a fantastic reputation, two guys who would also be destroyed at this point by the top SMW's.

That's why JC vs. MK is fantastic, ignore my bias, I'm hyped up and having fun, winner takes all!:good

[Astola]

Well, that's why I am so confident of the victory on my side mate, because I know it's going to happen against someone like JC if anyone.

Kessler even has a better chance against the more paced Chad Dawson... anyway, he beats everybody else around 160-175 except for JC and Dawson in my opinion, the loss won't be a big deal at all.

But you had to like my comment on the dumb boxing fans, if it's a close competitive war, winner doesn't even matter because both get credit, if JC or MK both blow one or the other out, dumb boxing fans over here will discredit that win as lesser than the war, that's how fucking dumb they are at times.

Imagine if Jermain Taylor jumped up and beat Lacy in a razor thin fight after he got the decisions over old man Hopkins, he'd be P4P # 1.:rofl

But JC's annihilation is lesser.:yep

Hell, Jermain Taylor wouldn't beat Lacy, Bute, Mundine, Andrade and especially not MK and JC, yet that joker is in the P4P rankings for having close fights with two guys that have a fantastic reputation, two guys who would also be destroyed at this point by the top SMW's.

That's why JC vs. MK is fantastic, ignore my bias, I'm hyped up and having fun, winner takes all!:good

I agree - and there will be no "hypejob" or "shotfighter" come 3/11.

Its war and both will have glory in their next fights (maybe rematch:think )

Your bias is allright fun though - keep up the good subjective style mate. objectivity btw has always been dead :D

[Amsterdam]

I agree - and there will be no "hypejob" or "shotfighter" come 3/11.

Its war and both will have glory in their next fights (maybe rematch:think )

Your bias is allright fun though - keep up the good subjective style mate. objectivity btw has always been dead :D

You should come on more often, always tied up with driving around in your highline cars and what not, you could see all types of good discussion that has nothing to do with objectivity. It's even taken over Decebal's life a bit.:yep

If Calzaghe does thrash Kessler in the way that I describe, are you going to leave forever, after paying me of course?

There's always a spot for Astola in the JC mafia, DanePug too.

[IntentionalButt]

Good to hear you give MK some credit Rosenkratz. Top 3 at 160-175 is very fair. :good

And I definitely see him as a stylistic underdog against Joe, which is a major contributing factor to my support swaying in his favor. If he wins it will be in very dramatic fashion and will not look the least bit easy.

[DanePugilist]

Just like Lacys tactics works vs lesser fighters, but not against elite, the same applies for JC in this fight. His swarming tactic overwhelms lesser fighters, but not elite.

No doubt in my mind that Kessler will make JC bleed alot. Still it will be an exciting match for the history books. Kessler by TKO 9. Kessler will be KD'd in 6th by an upper cut.

[DanePugilist]

You should come on more often, always tied up with driving around in your highline cars and what not, you could see all types of good discussion that has nothing to do with objectivity. It's even taken over Decebal's life a bit.:yep

If Calzaghe does thrash Kessler in the way that I describe, are you going to leave forever, after paying me of course?

There's always a spot for Astola in the JC mafia, DanePug too.I am already in the JC mafia - just not in this particular fight.

[Amsterdam]

Good to hear you give MK some credit Rosenkratz. Top 3 at 160-175 is very fair. :good

And I definitely see him as a stylistic underdog against Joe, which is a major contributing factor to my support swaying in his favor. If he wins it will be in very dramatic fashion and will not look the least bit easy.

JC's unreal guys, I am not being biased, he's truly a physical phenom. He's past his prime in terms of handspeed, not even 60% of the Mitchell fight for example(that was fucking awesome!!!:D ), but his footspeed is at 95%, so it evens out well.

I expect another showcase performance. Kessler is not done if he loses badly, he's really a masterful fighter and I like his class personality and he brings in charisma that boring jokes like Jermain Taylor fail to do, I could see Kessler cleaning the remnants of SMW and even having a trilogy with Chad Dawson, establishing a great resume, but I really don't feel he defeats JC and it's not from my bias.

You guys have to remember that I was on here doing this same deal months before the Lacy bout, saying that Lacy wouldn't win a single round and was going to get brutalised, jesus what a masterpiece, it was one sided but it was fucking beautiful, they all laughed at me though before the fight and praised guys like Jermain Taylor and discounted Joe as nothing, especially Deram.

It's going to be great, I'm sad that I can't go to it live.:-(

[Amsterdam]

I am already in the JC mafia - just not in this particular fight.

What if the Blocky prediction comes true and it really happens? Are you going to bug out of here for good or continue winding up these biased yanks with our new and first undisputed SMW supernatural deity?:D

Deram said if JC trashes Kessler badly, that JC deserves a ranking like RJJ has, I disagree, but Deram sure likes to swallow MK's load.:think

[DanePugilist]

JC's unreal guys, I am not being biased, he's truly a physical phenom. He's past his prime in terms of handspeed, not even 60% of the Mitchell fight for example(that was fucking awesome!!!:D ), but his footspeed is at 95%, so it evens out well.

I expect another showcase performance. Kessler is not done if he loses badly, he's really a masterful fighter and I like his class personality and he brings in charisma that boring jokes like Jermain Taylor fail to do, I could see Kessler cleaning the remnants of SMW and even having a trilogy with Chad Dawson, establishing a great resume, but I really don't feel he defeats JC and it's not from my bias.

You guys have to remember that I was on here doing this same deal months before the Lacy bout, saying that Lacy wouldn't win a single round and was going to get brutalised, jesus what a masterpiece, it was one sided but it was fucking beautiful, they all laughed at me though before the fight and praised guys like Jermain Taylor and discounted Joe as nothing, especially Deram.

It's going to be great, I'm sad that I can't go to it live.:-(Why can't you go to it live? I am currently saving up like a madman.

If JC is not 100% of his best - he will definately loose. This will be his biggest fight, and anything less than at his best will promise his demise.

[DanePugilist]

What if the Blocky prediction comes true and it really happens? Are you going to bug out of here for good or continue winding up these biased yanks with our new and first undisputed SMW supernatural deity?:D

Deram said if JC trashes Kessler badly, that JC deserves a ranking like RJJ has, I disagree, but Deram sure likes to swallow MK's load.:thinkI really thought you knew me by now. I don't leave just because some boxer loses.

If Blocky is right, I'll tip my hat off for his analysis, and will give him kudos when the talk comes up for this fight. However, I still think he has displayed bad manners on this forum.

After that I will still discuss boxing, because I love boxing, not Kessler.

[Amsterdam]

Why can't you go to it live? I am currently saving up like a madman.

If JC is not 100% of his best - he will definately loose. This will be his biggest fight, and anything less than at his best will promise his demise.

He'll be like he was vs. Lacy, that's 100% enough mixed with experience. A peak JC fully focused like he was against Lacy obliterates most guys, save for RJJ, who has an extreme stylistic advantage with that speedy lead right and matched footspeed, as well better skills overall...

Did you ever see the Byron Mitchell fight? Mitchell was a 1 punch KO hitter, hits Calzaghe with a temple shot that Calzaghe walked right into and Calzaghe drops, up at 3 and then finishes the poor bastard off after he obliterated him in 1st round, it was amazing. I love JC's entertaining fights.

I'll tell you what though DanePug, MK beats a peak James Toney 10/10 times, that's the type of quality I am talking about with Kessler, he's definitley quality in every sense of the word.

[Amsterdam]

I really thought you knew me by now. I don't leave just because some boxer loses.

But you didn't give me credit for calling Margarito shit, even though he lost wide to Williams, who's overrated as hell also.:|

That's okay, I deserve a smack for picking Judah.

If Blocky is right, I'll tip my hat off for his analysis, and will give him kudos when the talk comes up for this fight. However, I still think he has displayed bad manners on this forum.

Fuck Blockbot, CHJ and I didn't work out all of the bugs with him.


After that I will still discuss boxing, because I love boxing, not Kessler.


:good

[Astola]

You should come on more often, always tied up with driving around in your highline cars and what not, you could see all types of good discussion that has nothing to do with objectivity. It's even taken over Decebal's life a bit.:yep

If Calzaghe does thrash Kessler in the way that I describe, are you going to leave forever, after paying me of course?

There's always a spot for Astola in the JC mafia, DanePug too.

Kessler will win the fight - Im very sure he will. In fact Im getting more and more convinced each day.

I wouldnt join the JC mafia though - just as I seriously dont like to be considered member of the MK ditto.

But because I drive alot in highline motorized vehicles (:roll: ) and stuff like that (I work alot)- I simply dont have the time to be a member of any mafia. Im busy enough managing my own:D :D :lol: :lol:

Good night gents.

JC is supernatural.
MK is the God of boxing God's.

[Amsterdam]

Kessler will win the fight - Im very sure he will. In fact Im getting more and more convinced each day.

I wouldnt join the JC mafia though - just as I seriously dont like to be considered member of the MK ditto.

But because I drive alot in highline motorized vehicles (:roll: ) and stuff like that (I work alot)- I simply dont have the time to be a member of any mafia. Im busy enough managing my own:D :D :lol: :lol:

Good night gents.

JC is supernatural.
MK is the God of boxing God's.

Goodnight.

I am trying to pin point why Calzaghe fans are so immensely arrogant and prideful.:think

[DanePugilist]

But you didn't give me credit for calling Margarito shit, even though he lost wide to Williams, who's overrated as hell also.:|

That's okay, I deserve a smack for picking Judah.
You deserve kudos for your accurate analysis of the Margo-Williams fight(even if I think you underestimate Williams worth), and I am sorry that I haven't been on here to confirm that.

You weren't completely wrong in the Judah fight. Judahs best chance, as you said was in the early rounds, and that was correct. He just didn't put Cottos lights out. That is boxing.


Fuck Blockbot, CHJ and I didn't work out all of the bugs with him.



:good:rofl :rofl

[DanePugilist]

He'll be like he was vs. Lacy, that's 100% enough mixed with experience. A peak JC fully focused like he was against Lacy obliterates most guys, save for RJJ, who has an extreme stylistic advantage with that speedy lead right and matched footspeed, as well better skills overall...

Did you ever see the Byron Mitchell fight? Mitchell was a 1 punch KO hitter, hits Calzaghe with a temple shot that Calzaghe walked right into and Calzaghe drops, up at 3 and then finishes the poor bastard off after he obliterated him in 1st round, it was amazing. I love JC's entertaining fights.

I'll tell you what though DanePug, MK beats a peak James Toney 10/10 times, that's the type of quality I am talking about with Kessler, he's definitley quality in every sense of the word.Yes, I have seen the Mitchell fight delayed(much delayed). JC has a strong will along with his unique and top quality fighting skills. He is definately a natural born kill.. erh fighter - no doubt.

However, as you say, Kessler is top notch and it will take more than the usual swarming to take Kessler. Not saying that it can't be done, but JC must be at his very best.

[dave82]

nay

[precision]

nay

[dragosuhail]

no way. kessler is far superior to lacy in every department from power to skills. im not sure kessler could take as many shots as lacy and still see the final bell, but kessler isn't the type of fight who'll ever get hit that much.

the only possible way anyone could potentially ko kessler is with a one punch ko he didn't see coming or a sweet power combo. even then i think his beard is pretty solid. never seen him blink let alone wobble from a punch.

guys like kessler and mayweather are cold blooded operators. they don't let ANYTHING take them out of their gameplan. they set their own plan and shut down what ever the opponent tries.

whether or not this will work against calzaghe is another matter altogether, BUT you never know