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TIGEREDGE
02-14-2009, 08:40 PM
i think foster has more chance at the lower limit
i go with haye around the 7th

Jear
02-14-2009, 09:35 PM
At 190 I think Foster takes Haye. He is the same height and reach as Haye. At around 190 Foster was able to cut Ali and stun Frazier. Add to this the fact that Haye has to sweat another 10lbs out. Foster has a great jab and his right can wreak havoc.

At 200 it becomes a lot closer but i still think Foster is good enough to beat Haye.

riggers
02-15-2009, 07:20 AM
I don't recall him stunning Frazier at all.

Ted Spoon
02-15-2009, 03:35 PM
The gap in experience is the keystone in this encounter.

It is a common opinion that Haye would steamroll Foster. Frazier did just that, but look at the difference in fighting posture, pressure and short punches.

Haye stands up-right, relying on the turn of his left shoulder, that is where Foster would look to sink in that viscous counter right. Haye is also guilty of lunging and applies a readable combo of left hook-straight right.

These are aspects that a man of the stature of Foster should pick up on and punish. Now there is always the potential of Haye rushing Foster's weakness of giving ground, but with those whipping shots, Foster was far better at slugging with success.

Foster stood very similar to Haye with the draped left, but his form was far better, all crumpled up with the smart use of a lateral dip to the right.

These fundamental differences and veteran observations should exploits Hayes vulnerabilities and introduce him to the canvas, eventually for keeps.

HomicideHenry
02-15-2009, 03:46 PM
I dont see where anyone could assume Foster could beat a solid heavyweight contender, despite his run ins with Ali and Frazier? Haye done beat Monte Barrett, while Foster got knocked out by Ernie Terrell and Doug Jones. Foster went life and death with Dick Tiger for four rounds, and that was the old Tiger. I say Haye's speed and power over comes Foster. But he has to do it early.

janitor
02-15-2009, 04:02 PM
I have a hard time picking Foster over Haye.

I just think that he relied too heavily on his physical advantages and ran into trouble when these were removed.

Foster is dynamite up to 175 lbs but runs into trouble at 176.

Having said that I do think that he caried his power up to heavyweight absolutely.

BULLFROMBORNEO
02-15-2009, 04:06 PM
I'd pick Foster to counter Haye in one of his many faults and turn his lights out. Although I also think Foster would have to get the job done quickly as Haye could just as easily turn Foster's lights out as well.

Ted Spoon
02-15-2009, 05:04 PM
I dont see where anyone could assume Foster could beat a solid heavyweight contender, despite his run ins with Ali and Frazier? Haye done beat Monte Barrett, while Foster got knocked out by Ernie Terrell and Doug Jones. Foster went life and death with Dick Tiger for four rounds, and that was the old Tiger. I say Haye's speed and power over comes Foster. But he has to do it early.

Really?

As soon as Foster landed it was game over. Tiger had been game up until that point but did not manage to visibly bother Foster.

Minotauro
02-15-2009, 05:15 PM
Depends who lands first. But with Haye low guard and reliance on his reflexes I think Bob will land first.

ray fredrickson
02-15-2009, 05:19 PM
Bob Foster didnt go life &death with Dick Tiger,Foster NEARLY KILLED HIM!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

196osh
02-15-2009, 05:35 PM
I think Haye would spark Foster out at either but it would be early at 200lbs.

Haye has massive physical advantages.

Russell
02-16-2009, 01:11 PM
Bob Foster didnt go life &death with Dick Tiger,Foster NEARLY KILLED HIM!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

:lol:

Yeah, nearly decapitating a iron chinned guy in one punch equals going life and death with him, right?

Flea Man
02-16-2009, 01:32 PM
Foster annihilated Tiger.

Foster would have a BIG chance against Haye.

Didn't Haye fight as a LHW for his first two pro fights? If so, Foster destroys that version.

But within the parameters discussed? Hmmm, I wouldn't wanna' say.

Head says Haye but heart says Foster. Foster, takes a Haye right hands just on the scuff of the neck with almost accidental movement, desperate slip if you will, trying to avoid the Hayemaker.....BANG, Foster unloads with a left hook that hits Haye on the temple, and Haye has a struggle to get up, doing a Montell Griffin/Zab Judag dance until the referee rescues him at about 4.

BUDW
02-16-2009, 01:55 PM
Foster ko's the over hyped Haye in 2rds

mcvey
02-16-2009, 02:44 PM
i think foster has more chance at the lower limit
i go with haye around the 7th
Haye had one fight ,early in his career where he weighed less than 190 [189] he would be too big for Foster.

Jear
02-16-2009, 03:26 PM
I think Haye would spark Foster out at either but it would be early at 200lbs.

Haye has massive physical advantages.

What massive physical advantages???

Both are same height and reach. If both weigh 190 then where are these huge physical advantages? At 200 Haye has the extra 10lbs because i doubt Foster would come in much over 190. Foster has more experience and is quicker and has a better jab. Foster whacks more than hard enough to stop Haye.
Can Haye knock out Bob? Sure he can, i just think Foster has enough in his repotoire to beat Haye

MAG1965
02-22-2009, 04:20 AM
whoever lands first wins.

mcvey
02-22-2009, 06:53 AM
What massive physical advantages???

Both are same height and reach. If both weigh 190 then where are these huge physical advantages? At 200 Haye has the extra 10lbs because i doubt Foster would come in much over 190. Foster has more experience and is quicker and has a better jab. Foster whacks more than hard enough to stop Haye.
Can Haye knock out Bob? Sure he can, i just think Foster has enough in his repotoire to beat Haye
Foster was a natural LH ,and could not put meaningful weight on.He weighed 189 early in his career ,for ONE fight,,188 against Frazier and 180 against Ali.Haye only scaled below 190 ONCE.Above LH, Haye kos Bob.