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PeterNielsen70
08-18-2007, 05:36 AM
Yay or nay? :bbb

Claypole
08-18-2007, 05:37 AM
You are kidding, right?

PeterNielsen70
08-18-2007, 05:51 AM
You are kidding, right?

Neyay – there are some similarities, don’t you think. An unorthodox fighter against a classical straight up stance?

ozziebattler
08-18-2007, 05:54 AM
Im warning you,dont ever suggest anything negetive towards joe calzaghe on this forum site mate..

Their are shitloads of his nuthuggers on here so their is really no point as you will just cop the usual (ARE YOU KIDDING ME) posts from his avid nuthuggers.

But ask me and i say u may be onto something..

PeterNielsen70
08-18-2007, 06:10 AM
Im warning you,dont ever suggest anything negetive towards joe calzaghe on this forum site mate..

Their are shitloads of his nuthuggers on here so their is really no point as you will just cop the usual (ARE YOU KIDDING ME) posts from his avid nuthuggers.

But ask me and i say u may be onto something..

Yeh, Nassem was an expert in his own sort of unorthodox approach, being able to deliver punches from every possible angle mixed up with fast combos. But when facing a boxer with very good classic technical skills, he was, however, beatable.

Amsterdam
08-18-2007, 06:20 AM
Yeh, Nassem was an expert in his own sort of unorthodox approach, being able to deliver punches from every possible angle mixed up with fast combos. But when facing a boxer with very good classic technical skills, he was, however, beatable.

He was not that quick however, struggled with a level of competition that Calzaghe has smashed and Barrera and Kessler have zero similiarities -

Kessler is a technical boxer-puncher of the euro stand up model, very rigid. Barrera is an iron chinned technical boxer/brawler of the fluid western style and utilises fantastic footwork mixed with a great combination of working behind the jab and also working well on the inside and knowing virtually every technique available.

And another thing, Calzaghe has well rounded boxing skills on top of his technical, but awkward swarming. Naseem was an awkward slugger, not a boxer-swarmer.

ozziebattler
08-18-2007, 06:22 AM
He was not that quick however, struggled with a level of competition that Calzaghe has smashed and Barrera and Kessler have zero similiarities -

Kessler is a technical boxer-puncher of the euro stand up model, very rigid. Barrera is an iron chinned technical boxer/brawler of the fluid western style and utilises fantastic footwork mixed with a great combination of working behind the jab and also working well on the inside and knowing virtually every technique available.

And another thing, Calzaghe has well rounded boxing skills on top of his technical, but awkward swarming. Naseem was an awkward slugger, not a boxer-swarmer.

The nuthuggers have arrived...

CLOSE THE THREAD

Sai
08-18-2007, 06:25 AM
No way to make a comparison. Naz just ended up believing his own hype, had a terrible preparation and was just relying on his power to carry him. Calzaghes prep will be perfect.

Amsterdam
08-18-2007, 06:27 AM
The nuthuggers have arrived...

CLOSE THE THREAD

I am not a nuthugger, a longtime fan yes.

I was only correcting the original poster on some blatant flaws in his logic, such as styles, which are not even close to the same unless you think all awkward fighters are the same and all technical boxers are the same.

Scar
08-18-2007, 06:28 AM
Definitely not. Stupid thread.

ozziebattler
08-18-2007, 06:31 AM
Close The Thread...

PeterNielsen70
08-18-2007, 07:41 AM
He was not that quick however, struggled with a level of competition that Calzaghe has smashed and Barrera and Kessler have zero similiarities -

Kessler is a technical boxer-puncher of the euro stand up model, very rigid. Barrera is an iron chinned technical boxer/brawler of the fluid western style and utilises fantastic footwork mixed with a great combination of working behind the jab and also working well on the inside and knowing virtually every technique available.

And another thing, Calzaghe has well rounded boxing skills on top of his technical, but awkward swarming. Naseem was an awkward slugger, not a boxer-swarmer.


Amsterdam, I can a long way easily accept your analysis. But I still think there is a lot of reason in the comparison. I know that both Naz and Barrera were more slugger/brawler types – but that doesn’t alter the fact, that Naz also relied much on his ability moving in and out on his opponents while throwing punches from different angels. Regarding Joe’s technical abilities, then I must say that I don’t like a lot of what I’m seeing. Holding on to your opponent with the right hand while delivering punches to the opponents neck/ear with the inside glove of the left hand. And when coming in with flurries Joe also very often strike his opponents with the underarms. :bbb

SevenSamurai
08-18-2007, 07:56 AM
To the Danish author of this thread:

Are you another nut hugger who is going to be seriously embarassed when his fighter loses the biggest fight of his career?

YES.

English Nutter
08-18-2007, 07:56 AM
Amsterdam, I can a long way easily accept your analysis. But I still think there is a lot of reason in the comparison. I know that both Naz and Barrera were more slugger/brawler types – but that doesn’t alter the fact, that Naz also relied much on his ability moving in and out on his opponents while throwing punches from different angels. Regarding Joe’s technical abilities, then I must say that I don’t like a lot of what I’m seeing. Holding on to your opponent with the right hand while delivering punches to the opponents neck/ear with the inside glove of the left hand. And when coming in with flurries Joe also very often strike his opponents with the underarms. :bbb
Calzaghe has twice the chin naseem had,Naseem was an overhyped twat,how can you compare the 2,there nothing like eachother,just shows how naive you Calzaghe wanabies are.if he done a lennox lewis and got himself an amrican accent would you like him a little bit more then?

Claypole
08-18-2007, 07:58 AM
Neyay – there are some similarities, don’t you think. An unorthodox fighter against a classical straight up stance?
I can't see any similarities between the two. Naz only knew how to fight one way, and was often made to look terrible for it, whilst Joe actually knows what he is doing in fights.

Toopretty
08-18-2007, 08:01 AM
Calzaghe has twice the chin naseem had,Naseem was an overhyped twat,how can you compare the 2,there nothing like eachother,just shows how naive you Calzaghe wanabies are.if he done a lennox lewis and got himself an amrican accent would you like him a little bit more then?


NO Calzaghe is respected by us. We know he got skills, but he has fought nobody for the level of fighter he is or was during his prime. I mean, you got to show and prove. You are not great by default.:smoke

PeterNielsen70
08-18-2007, 08:02 AM
To the Danish author of this thread:

Are you another nut hugger who is going to be seriously embarassed when his fighter loses the biggest fight of his career?

YES.

Yes, I will be a little embarrassed if that is going to happen, as I expect a UD for Kessler (116-112) in a 12 round tough and hard battle.

You shouldn’t by any chance be British (Welsh?)

YES

SevenSamurai
08-18-2007, 08:07 AM
Yes, I will be a little embarrassed if that is going to happen, as I expect a UD for Kessler (116-112) in a 12 round tough and hard battle.

You shouldn’t by any chance be British (Welsh?)

YES

Hello My Danish friend.

I am British, but I am not a Calzaghe fan at all. I do not really like the Welsh to begin with (I am a proud English man), and I do not like the fact that Calzaghe slaps with his punches and gets away with it.

I am a neutral in this one.:good

I do however expect Calzaghe to win through superior speed, superior ring movement and superior experience. Kessler is an expeptionally gifted boxer aswell though, so I see this being close and being something like 115-112/ 116-112 for Calzghe.

paulfv
08-18-2007, 08:19 AM
To answer the threadstarter's question:

Heck no. If MK beats JC, IMO, it's because Joe's getting a little long in the tooth. But I don't think Joe's going to lose.

sjc
08-18-2007, 08:55 AM
Well for a start, Calzaghe has infinitely more strength of CHARACTER than Naz ever did, something that is IMO probably the most important attribute to have in boxing.

So in answer to your thread... fuhgeddaboudit.

Rickypr18
08-18-2007, 09:11 AM
Amsterdam, I can a long way easily accept your analysis. But I still think there is a lot of reason in the comparison. I know that both Naz and Barrera were more slugger/brawler types – but that doesn’t alter the fact, that Naz also relied much on his ability moving in and out on his opponents while throwing punches from different angels. Regarding Joe’s technical abilities, then I must say that I don’t like a lot of what I’m seeing. Holding on to your opponent with the right hand while delivering punches to the opponents neck/ear with the inside glove of the left hand. And when coming in with flurries Joe also very often strike his opponents with the underarms. :bbb

hey can i just ask who that girl in your avatar is??? Im a fan of Superman.

brooklyn1550
08-18-2007, 09:50 AM
I don't think so...Calzaghe doesn't have the same style as Hamed and Kessler is no Barrera. I think Calzaghe wins this.

dwilson
08-18-2007, 10:11 AM
Barrara was a great and kes is just cannon fodder.

English Nutter
08-18-2007, 10:14 AM
Amsterdam, I can a long way easily accept your analysis. But I still think there is a lot of reason in the comparison. I know that both Naz and Barrera were more slugger/brawler types – but that doesn’t alter the fact, that Naz also relied much on his ability moving in and out on his opponents while throwing punches from different angels. Regarding Joe’s technical abilities, then I must say that I don’t like a lot of what I’m seeing. Holding on to your opponent with the right hand while delivering punches to the opponents neck/ear with the inside glove of the left hand. And when coming in with flurries Joe also very often strike his opponents with the underarms. :bbb
so there

Tu papa
08-18-2007, 10:19 AM
LOL this thread is a joke. Im rooting for Kesler cause I hate fighters that wait after they have 300 fights to fight the best out there. But in reality I think it is gonna be the other way around. Calzaghe will make Kessler look ordinary, Im afraid.

English Nutter
08-20-2007, 08:04 AM
Amsterdam, I can a long way easily accept your analysis. But I still think there is a lot of reason in the comparison. I know that both Naz and Barrera were more slugger/brawler types – but that doesn’t alter the fact, that Naz also relied much on his ability moving in and out on his opponents while throwing punches from different angels. Regarding Joe’s technical abilities, then I must say that I don’t like a lot of what I’m seeing. Holding on to your opponent with the right hand while delivering punches to the opponents neck/ear with the inside glove of the left hand. And when coming in with flurries Joe also very often strike his opponents with the underarms. :bbb
pretty effective tho aint it,everyones got there own style