Anyone see the little sun article 2day?

[zulander]

Just saw the above on a break and ****** has said that with Campbell loosing his belts Kahn v MAB might actually be WBO title fight. How undeserved would that be?

[robpalmer135]

its boxing mate, the most corrupt sport in the world! this has been happening since 1901

[Grievesy]

Fucking disgrace if it is!

[debaser]

Tragedy for the sport. Surely this is breaking some type of competition rules. It's time to get ****** banned.

[dan-b]

It would simply highlight how much of a joke the WBO still are.

[toffeejack]

Not even ****** could get away with this surely.

[Benjiabc]

this would be truely shocking

[dwilson]

Wank. Twat. Cunt.

[Smith]

Sqwelchy flippers.

[Ed.]

Wow, if ****** pulls this off I'll be his bitch for life. That's seriously impressive stuff. I wonder if he can get me a world title too?

[KCD]

What the hell has Khan done to deserve a title shot?

Also what has Barrera done at 135 to deserve a title shot?

[Ed.]

What the hell has Khan done to deserve a title shot?

Also what has Barrera done at 135 to deserve a title shot?
Work with ****** and King. It's all about marketing baby, fuck the ranks.

[scurlaruntings]

Remember ladies this is the same belt Joe defended 20 odd times or whatever it was. More than laughable and thoroughly indicative of a weak and pathetic championship reign as well as highlighting how much of a bad joke the WBO really are.

[surreal deal]

Wow, if ****** pulls this off I'll be his bitch for life. That's seriously impressive stuff. I wonder if he can get me a world title too?
If you sign over all options on your wife and all present and future children,Frank will get you a KFC title shot.
Guaranteed.

[surreal deal]

Remember ladies this is the same belt Joe defended 20 odd times or whatever it was. More than laughable and thoroughly indicative of a weak and pathetic championship reign as well as highlighting how much of a bad joke the WBO really are.
I think they are all jokes.
If it was just the WBC/WBA ,it would be a bastard for Euro's to get world title shots,like it was in the 70's.
It would just go back to being the 'USA World title', American vs American with the odd outsider getting a chance every few years.
Thats why i wont malign The WBO(or IBF)...It spreads the opportunities.

[dan-b]

I think they are all jokes.
If it was just the WBC/WBA ,it would be a bastard for Euro's to get world title shots,like it was in the 70's.
It would just go back to being the 'USA World title', American vs American with the odd outsider getting a chance every few years.
Thats why i wont malign The WBO(or IBF)...It spreads the opportunities.

It also spreads the legitimacy though and not to mention the dilution of the 'world' title. I'm pretty sure WBO isn't recognised in Italy. The Japanese only recgonise WBC/WBA titles, works fine for them.

[Undisputed P4P]

Barrera is there number 1 contender and the WBO are going to want a champion as soon as possible.

they could start a tournament between the top 4 ranked fighters and the winner gets the belt.

[scurlaruntings]

I think they are all jokes.
If it was just the WBC/WBA ,it would be a bastard for Euro's to get world title shots,like it was in the 70's.
It would just go back to being the 'USA World title', American vs American with the odd outsider getting a chance every few years.
Thats why i wont malign The WBO(or IBF)...It spreads the opportunities.Understood they are all corrupt but the WBO has NO legacy whatsoever. The belt was introduced in 1989 and has been rubbish ever since. At least the IBF gave there belts to the best man in that division. Anyone can challenge for the WBO and there rankings are a farce. Wasnt in them that ranked a dead man?

[surreal deal]

Understood they are all corrupt but the WBO has NO legacy whatsoever. The belt was introduced in 1989 and has been rubbish ever since. At least the IBF gave there belts to the best man in that division. Anyone can challenge for the WBO and there rankings are a farce. Wasnt in them that ranked a dead man?
If i was American i would probably malign the WBO,but as a Brit i know what a nightmare it would be for non Americans to break into the Yank vs Yank monopoly if it was the old WBA/WBC situation.
If not for the WBO,Eubank,Calzaghe,Hamed ETC would have just spent years on the British,Euro,Commonwealth merry-go-round;getting a world title shot when past their best.Like Herol Graham did.

[scurlaruntings]

If i was American i would probably malign the WBO,but as a Brit i know what a nightmare it would be for non Americans to break into the Yank vs Yank monopoly if it was the old WBA/WBC situation.
If not for the WBO,Eubank,Calzaghe,Hamed ETC would have just spent years on the British,Euro,Commonwealth merry-go-round;getting a world title shot when past their best.Like Herol Graham did.Blame ****** for that. And i cant agree there, as British fighters of years gone by like Bruno Mcguigan and Curry all fought for the big 3 and NOT the WBO. The WBO only became a good avenue for ****** to make money and nothing else. Plus historically if Frank had taken his fighters down the traditional EBU route they would have been mandatories for the WBC. LL never had that problem, guess what he wasnt promoted by ******.

[Darni187]

JMM and Juan Diaz are already fighting for the IBO title, so they wont be going mad to get the WBO, as i think both of them are also in line for the vacant IBF, WBA title aswell. Both Don King and ****** are trying to get MAB-Khan fight Sanctioned, and you bet they will get it.



March 14 Amir Khan could become the 'WBO World Lightweight Champion', at the age of 22, making him 4th youngest British world champion in history, behind Teddy Baldock, Naseem Hamed and Ted “Kid” Lewis.

[scurlaruntings]

Right now its a very insignificant achievement considering the strength of Khans claim as well as his previous opponent and wipe out loss to Bredis Prescott. Anyway this is all supposition as i don't fancy his chances against Barrera.

[surreal deal]

I see your point Scurla.It was more the 70's when it was basically the USA world title.The advent of the IBF/WBO opened things up for Euro's with the other two,just through the knock on effect of there being more choice.

I cant knock the WBO anymore than the others.They are all corrupt.
Don Kings interminable influence on The WBC was far greater than ******s with the WBO.That was a body for King to make shedloads of cash ala ******/WBO.

Then you have the ratings corruption of the IBF.

If you call the WBO a turkey,ok,but i'll say yes it is,but they are all turkeys.

[Darni187]

Well the stage is set, if he wants his dream of becoming a world champion become true he might just have to beat MAB to do that, it wont be easy, but no one saw this coming and now Khan has to make the most of it and take it with both hands.

[scurlaruntings]

I see your point.It was more the 70's when it was basically the USA world title.The advent of the IBF/WBO still opened things up for Euro's with the other two,just through the knock on effect of there being more choice.
IHmm not really. The IBF isnt a belt that has been contested here that much. The WBO of course is part of the furniture. The problem with the WBO is there rankings are pure utter garbage and there champions historically have always been weaker. I mean how does a guy like Grigorian defend a belt that many times? You can include Zsolt Erdei in that list too. Even champs like Joe and Darius have had woefully think reigns.

[RogerB]

I know this is maybe a futile question...but what happens when a belt is vacated..isnt it the next two in line fight for it??

How can Khan be eligible , or for that matter Barerra?? Is there not a mandatory??..if not then wats the point having a Boxing Org at all ...Fugg it ...Lets just make the next three fights at that weight for belts ..forget al the other fighters hard work and dedication .

[scurlaruntings]

I cant knock the WBO anymore than the others.They are all corrupt.
Don Kings interminable influence on The WBC was far greater than ******s with the WBO.That was a body for King to make shedloads of cash ala ******/WBO.

Then you have the ratings corruption of the IBF.

If you call the WBO a turkey,ok,but i'll say yes it is,but they are all turkeys.Most certainly. What the IBF did was extremely bad for boxing. They were investigated by the FBI as a result along with DKP. The WBC are just as bad for gifting Jones the WBC when Rochiganni was there champ. They got sued into chapter 11 and settled out of court as a result to save themselves. Then they created this bullshit Emeritus title and the WBA went one better with there super "duper" champ. As a whole there all bad but at least the WBC/WBA and somewhat the IBF have some legacy. The WBO has literally nothing.

[Pug1list]

All about money really, not who deserves what, Khan's world title aspirations are within grasp.

[dan-b]

All about money really, not who deserves what, Khan's world title aspirations are within grasp.

What a damning indictment on our sport that is. I'm not knocking what you've said at all, you've pretty much summed up everything that's wrong with our sport in one simple sentence.

[Tuffnutz]

I don't think i could stand hearing "World Champion" if he beat BARRERA!

I hope more than ever that Barrera kHTFO now.

[widdy]

if its for a world title,even the WBO,MAB will be even more up 4 it.
i can see khan getting the better of him in the 1st few rounds,then MAB stopping khan middle rounds,i hope.
i would be gutted if khan beats even washed up MAB,it would drive me to drink.

in the 60's 70's , if you were euro champ,you got a world title shot,i pretty sure,if you were brit champ you got a world ranking

[dan-b]

if its for a world title,even the WBO,MAB will be even more up 4 it.
i can see khan getting the better of him in the 1st few rounds,then MAB stopping khan middle rounds,i hope.
i would be gutted if khan beats even washed up MAB,it would drive me to drink.

in the 60's 70's , if you were euro champ,you got a world title shot,i pretty sure,if you were brit champ you got a world ranking

The EBU title did and, as far as I know, still does give you a top ten ranking with the WBC.

[abzmanc]

There's been bigger travesties in the sport than this but hey ho thats how it is.

[Wearside]

After the whole Joan Guzman stunt is anyone really surprised?

[Kid Lucky]

If Buncey doesn't respond to a question about this on Thursday's show with his anecdote about Don King saying 'you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate' I'll eat Tommy Morrison's jockstrap.

[mike464]

The WBO, and the WBU for that matter, are responsible for us missing out on so many quality fights. Khan will just make 20 or so defences against no-hopers and we'll never see him step up and fight Murray or Thaxton.

[scurlaruntings]

The WBU/WBO are responsible for the demise of the traditional domestic route. Lonsdale Commenwealth Europe than World Honours. I mean can you believe a tin pot title like that has a intercontinental/international belt? Honestly what a f`in farce.

[debaser]

It's an absolute joke that he jumps ahead of Murray and Thaxton in the pecking order. He has far from proved himsself as the best lightweight at domestic level yet. Good matchmaking will get you so far but the fans aren't stupid. Even the layman that buys his fights on box office must be wondering how he gets a world title shot one win after being ktfo. Forget it Frank, the boxing fans won't stand for it.

[scurlaruntings]

It's an absolute joke that he jumps ahead of Murray and Thaxton in the pecking order. He has far from proved himsself as the best lightweight at domestic level yet. Good matchmaking will get you so far but the fans aren't stupid. Even the layman that buys his fights on box office must be wondering how he gets a world title shot one win after being ktfo. Forget it Frank, the boxing fans won't stand for it.
O but they do! Frank knows this. He guided Ricky and Joe along that same route. Its tried and tested and bottom line it works for his fighters and himself at minimal risk/reward.

[mike464]

Frank ****** and the WBO have been waiting for a long time for an excuse to give Khan an easy (I mean even easier than normal) WBO title shot.

What about that guy who knocked Khan out easily? What about the guy who lost a close MD to the previous WBO champ who came in overweight? Surely that would make more sense for the vacant title? Not someone who was absolutely destroyed two fights ago and a washed up fighter who has had no significant fights at the weight.

[scurlaruntings]

Frank ****** and the WBO have been waiting for a long time for an excuse to give Khan an easy (I mean even easier than normal) WBO title shot.

What about that guy who knocked Khan out easily? What about the guy who lost a close MD to the previous WBO champ who came in overweight? Surely that would make more sense for the vacant title? Not someone who was absolutely destroyed two fights ago and a washed up fighter who has had no significant fights at the weight.
But thats what the WBO is all about. There rankings are a sham. FW did the same with Alex Arthur and waited for Guzman to vacate. Conveniently as always his fighter then gets promoted to regular champ. Its utterly shambolic and definitive proof of the con-artist that FW is. Hence why i have very little time for SN fighters. I mean where is Gary Lockett? Thats right sitting comfortably on his nest egg after a pathetic performance and worst of all a completely unworthy number 1 ranking with the WBO.

[dan-b]

Kind of following on from that, it's about time Pavlik started creating some sort of legacy as middleweight champion. He'll demolish this Rubio guy, I saw him on the Hopkins/Pavlik undercard. His team, apparently, are already looking at John Duddy after Rubio. I will be most dissapointed if we don't get Pavlik/Abraham soon.

[scurlaruntings]

Kind of following on from that, it's about time Pavlik started creating some sort of legacy as middleweight champion. He'll demolish this Rubio guy, I saw him on the Hopkins/Pavlik undercard. His team, apparently, are already looking at John Duddy after Rubio. I will be most dissapointed if we don't get Pavlik/Abraham soon.Remember Pavlik was protected VERY well in his earlier career. The guy got to 30-0 and fought no one of any note. The world only took note when he smashed up Miranda. Right now 160 is a bit of a wasteland.

[dan-b]

Remember Pavlik was protected VERY well in his earlier career. The guy got to 30-0 and fought no one of any note. The world only took note when he smashed up Miranda. Right now 160 is a bit of a wasteland.

Perhaps, but it's a wasteland with one very good match up that needs to happen.

[scurlaruntings]

Abrahams Pavlik is the only fight that matters at 160. If Pavlik had any sense he`d move to 68/75 and search for big money bouts.

[Darni187]

Looking at the broader picture if Khan does win the WBO belt, I feel he will fight better fighters, Roach believes in Khan and i dont think he would let him fight bums.

He might even want Khan to move up weight, due to Khan's weight problem, this could even be having a effect on his chin.

[hitman_hatton1]

to get any form of respect as wbo champion.

he'd have to rematch and beat breidis prescott in his 1st defence. :yep

[dan-b]

Looking at the broader picture if Khan does win the WBO belt, I feel he will fight better fighters, Roach believes in Khan and i dont think he would let him fight bums.

He might even want Khan to move up weight, due to Khan's weight problem, this could even be having a effect on his chin.

This has nothing to do with with what Roach will "let him" do. ****** will be calling the shots as long as he's Khan's promoter. Where is the precedent to suggest otherwise?

[Darni187]

This has nothing to do with with what Roach will "let him" do. ****** will be calling the shots as long as he's Khan's promoter. Where is the precedent to suggest otherwise?

Time will tell, I dont think Khan will go down Joe.C or Hatton route, Khan's in to much spotlight to fight bums for 10 years.

[Grievesy]

Time will tell, I dont think Khan will go down Joe.C or Hatton route, Khan's in to much spotlight to fight bums for 10 years.

I think that's a bit naive. If anything due to Khan's dodgy whiskers, ****** will want to keep him on the belt as long as possible earning as much money as possible, should he win it. Even then the chances of him losing to one of those bums is high. Almost everyone has a punchers chance against Amir.

[Darni187]

I think that's a bit naive. If anything due to Khan's dodgy whiskers, ****** will want to keep him on the belt as long as possible earning as much money as possible, should he win it. Even then the chances of him losing to one of those bums is high. Almost everyone has a punchers chance against Amir.

This fight with Barrera will tell us alot about Khan, If MAB can test his chin with good shots and Khan comes though can win, it can show us his chin can take some shots. I mean if his chin is that bad he will be soon found out again. I think his weight is a problem, Khan looks weight drained and this could be having a effect on his chin.

[mike464]

This fight with Barrera will tell us alot about Khan, If MAB can test his chin with good shots and Khan comes though can win, it can show us his chin can take some shots. I mean if his chin is that bad he will be soon found out again. I think his weight is a problem, Khan looks weight drained and this could be having a effect on his chin.We already know he has a bad chin. If he can take some Barrera shots that would tell us more about Barrera's shots than Khan's chin.

[Darni187]

We already know he has a bad chin. If he can take some Barrera shots that would tell us more about Barrera's shots than Khan's chin.

Well if he wants to become a great fighter he has to learn and protect the weak chin and Roach can help him do that. Otherwise if he loses again in his next few fights, The Khan Story is over.

[ishy]

Well if he wants to become a great fighter he has to learn and protect the weak chin and Roach can help him do that. Otherwise if he loses again in his next few fights, The Khan Story is over.

Do you post in threads that are not about Khan?

[Darni187]

Do you post in threads that are not about Khan?

I dont know, i think I do :huh

[dan-b]

I dont know, i think I do :huh

Will you consider Khan a real world champion if he wins the vacant WBO strap?

[Darni187]

Will you consider Khan a real world champion if he wins the vacant WBO strap?

No, but if he wins it and then defends it vs top 15 fighters then yeah.

[D-MAC]

No, but if he wins it and then defends it vs top 15 fighters then yeah.

What? The WBO's top 15?:lol:

[Darni187]

What? The WBO's top 15?:lol:

I know its a joke, some of them names in there are a joke, even Khan at 9 is a joke.

What the WBO should do is the winners of MAB-Khan, JMM-J.Diaz should fight for the title. But this would never happen.

The fact of the matter is this is happened by pure luck, Khan and Barrera was for no title, ****** is just trying to cash in on Nate's vacant titles, do you blame him?

[mike464]

Maybe afterwards Khan could unify with the WBU champion and then fight the IBO champion for the undisputed Mickey Mouse title.

[D-MAC]

The fact of the matter is this is happened by pure luck, Khan and Barrera was for no title, ****** is just trying to cash in on Nate's vacant titles, do you blame him?

I blame Frank ****** for a lot of things.

[dan-b]

Maybe afterwards Khan could unify with the WBU champion and then fight the IBO champion for the undisputed Mickey Mouse title.

I think the big three should start ranking WBO belt holders.

[abzmanc]

Seems to be a lot of blame placed squarely on WBO.... as I recall before the Prescott fight Khan was top ten ranked by Ring Magazine in a copy of Ring Mag which I saw... that was madness in itself!

[ishy]

Seems to be a lot of blame placed squarely on WBO.... as I recall before the Prescott fight Khan was top ten ranked by Ring Magazine in a copy of Ring Mag which I saw... that was madness in itself!

Yes, that was madness but Barry McGuigan is on the Ring's ratings panel. Need I say more?

[D-MAC]

Yes, that was madness but Barry McGuigan is on the Ring's ratings panel. Need I say more?

He probably voted him No.1 in the division, then the Ring just used the rest of the votes to dilute Khan's position to around No.9.

[ishy]

He probably voted him No.1 in the division, then the Ring just used the rest of the votes to dilute Khan's position to around No.9.


:lol::lol: I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.