Miguel COTTO vs. Michael JENNINGS ~ Post fight analysis

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On the line

Vacant WBO World Welterweight Title

Stats & Facts

Cotto:
Age - 28
Stance - Orthodox
Height / Reach - 5' 7" / 67"
Record - 32(26)-1(1)
KO ratio - 79%

Achievements:
Former WBO Light Welterweight Champion
Former WBA Welterweight Champion

W TKO8 Carlos Maussa, W UD12 Lovemore N'dou, W TKO5 DeMarcus Corley, W KO7 Ricardo Torres, W TKO8 Gianluca Branco, W UD12 Pauli Malignaggi, W RTD5 Carlos Quintana, W TKO11 Otkay Urkal, W TKO11 Zab Judah, W UD12 Shane Mosley

L TKO 11 Antonio Margarito

Jennings:
Age - 31
Stance - Orthodox
Height - 5' 9½"
Record - 34(16)-1(0)
KO ratio - 46%

Achievements:
Former British Welterweight Champion
Current WBU Welterweight Champion

W PTS8 Rafal Jackiewicz, W TKO 9 Gavin Down, W UD12 Bradley Pryce, W UD12 Mehrdud Takaloo, W TKO9 Ross Minter

L SD12 Young Mutley

What they say...

"I don't know anything about my opponent. I have not watched any tapes of him. Right now I feel good, but I miss the gym and the fights. I am hungry to get back. I have walked around at about 176 or 178. The people in Puerto Rico have made me feel real good, as well as my family. In New York there is a strong Puerto Rican population and latin community and to fight here makes me feel at home.

I would like to get the rematch right away with Margarito, but I have to wait for the company to decide then we will see. It is a rematch that I want. Not badly (laughing), but I want it. When I fight him again, I will try to be a better boxer. I never watched the fight. I've been there, so I don't need to see it (laughing).

If Manny Pacquiao wants to stay at 147 and fight one of the biggest names in boxing - I am available. When I win this title (WBO Welterweight), I will feel like a champion. We want to give the people a good show. I am going to work hard. I want to be champion again and I am going to be champion again on Feb. 21." - Miguel Cotto

"We all saw how the fight went and it was an unlucky turn of events that he got stopped. Look at fighters like Naseem Hamed and Mike Tyson, after they lost there first fight they were never the same again. I am going to take advantage of this and I am going to punish him for taking me lightly!"

I have been undermined my whole career, people thought boxers such as Bradley Pryce, Chris Saunders and Mehrdud Takaloo were going to murder me, but I proved everyone wrong.

I will train the hardest i've ever trained in my life and I don't think, I know I can stop Miguel Cotto and be a new british world champion among the greats such as Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe!" - Michael Jennings

Venue

Madison Square Garden, New York, United States.

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Odds

Cotto - 1/50
Jennings - 10

TV coverage

Setanta Sports

VOTE, ANALYZE, DISCUSS.

[TFFP]

1. This will become a Round-by-Round on the night

2. If we hear about UK TV coverage let me know

3. What do we make of the quotes, particularly the bold parts?

4. Does anybody really believe in Jennings' chances?

[ishy]

Rob has posted a thread regarding TV coverage. He says that Setanta will show the fight at 10am the next day. No live coverage in the UK.

but I have to wait for the company to decide then we will see. :lol:

[TFFP]

This man will decide Cotto's fate
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[antcull]

Jennings UD.

I can offer absolutely no analysis to how this result will happen, nor can i contemplate how he could possibly do it.

He just will :yep

GOOOO JENNINGS!!!!!!

Would you guys like Jennings v Mosely after this, or maybe he can tempt PBF out of retirement. He could derail the Berto hype train as well.

Michael Jennings.....British ATG in the making

[TFFP]

Jennings UD.

I can offer absolutely no analysis to how this result will happen, nor can i contemplate how he could possibly do it.

He just will :yep

GOOOO JENNINGS!!!!!!

Would you guys like Jennings v Mosely after this, or maybe he can tempt PBF out of retirement. He could derail the Berto hype train as well.

Michael Jennings.....British ATG in the making
All sarcasm aside...Jennings believes this.

Check the quotes!

[MightyLondoner]

There is no way on god's planet that Michael Jennings is going to win this one! If he makes it out of this fight alive it will be an achievement.. Cotto by KO inside 5.

[ishy]

There is no way ANYONE can justify picking Jennings. He doesn't even have a punchers chance, he'll be fighting at MSG which will be packed with Ricans but sometimes things happen which defy science, nature and logic :smoke.

WAR JENNINGS!!!!!!!!

[TFFP]

Ok...let's try a different approach. The vote seems fairly unanimous at this stage.

Can anybody envisage him lasting the distance...and how? :think

[MightyLondoner]

Ok...let's try a different approach. The vote seems fairly unanimous at this stage.

Can anybody envisage him lasting the distance...and how? :think

If by somehow he has a divine power which means he can turn invisible then maybe, just maybe he can go the distance?

[Primadonna Kool]

worth a £5 is this Jennings kid any good..??????? any vid's..

[stuey]

jenno simply aint fought anywhere close to this level and i think its going to be a lot harder staying away from cotto than he thinks..

i can see him getting walked down and stopped in 6 or so, but i reckon he will be competitive up until then.

good lad jenno, hope he does himself proud.

[jc]

If JEnnings pulls this off, this would be one the biggest upset i have ever seen...

Cotto brutal tko.

[TommyV]

Jennings.

I've never heard of either of them, I'm just going for Jennings because he has a better record.

[antcull]

All sarcasm aside...Jennings believes this.

Check the quotes!

I don't think he really believes in himself to beat Cotto....the quotes like 'even when i get to fight for a world title its against bloody Cotto!' and loadin his gloves with nails to beat Cotto tells me this.

If he manages to go the distance or at least the later rounds whilst winning a couple then he can be assured of a few more decent paydays.

The truth is that nobody really knows how the brutal loss will effect Cotto....it could have affected him mentally...

Thats the best I can hope for

[BamBam]

Jennings get banjoed in a Lockett-esque fashion

[toffeejack]

This is a similar mismatch to the Pavlik v Lockett fight.

Unless Margarito has ruined Cotto then I see a stoppage in 4.

[Beeston Brawler]

I bet Jennings takes his lumps like a man though, rather than quitting like a little bitch.

[toffeejack]

I bet Jennings takes his lumps like a man though, rather than quitting like a little bitch.

It was a pathetic "effort" by Lockett I agree mate.

[Beeston Brawler]

Pathetic is too kind.

They ought to have withheld his purse.

[nulty]

I'm going with Jennnings. If the hand of god interfers and he wins I can say I predicted a miracle and look smug.

If (when) not then I can claim that I was drunk whilst making this post.

Cmon Mike.

[widdy]

i think your all being a bit bitchy about jennings.
he is a very decent boxer,good style,not a bad punch,and good chin.
i can see him out boxing cotto for 1st half of fight,then prob getting stopped later on,i really hope he dusent,he is a good lad.
who knows what that beating he took of margo,who basiclly was a nobody,who was going to get twated of cotto,but cotto folded and giv up after 6 rounds,and we all know what happened in margos next fight.
cotto's got a hard punch,but he aint the graetest boxer in the world

[nulty]

i think your all being a bit bitchy about jennings.
he is a very decent boxer,good style,not a bad punch,and good chin.
i can see him out boxing cotto for 1st half of fight,then prob getting stopped later on,i really hope he dusent,he is a good lad.
who knows what that beating he took of margo,who basiclly was a nobody,who was going to get twated of cotto,but cotto folded and giv up after 6 rounds,and we all know what happened in margos next fight.
cotto's got a hard punch,but he aint the graetest boxer in the world

A nobody? You do watch boxing right?

[GazOC]

Jennings will last longer and put up a better fight than Lockett.

[Welly]

Just how much has that loss to Margarito taken out of Cotto? I'm not sure he can fully recover from that defeat and be the fighter he was prior to that fight. However, I still believe he'll have enough to stop a brave Jennings by round nine.

[JIM KELLY]

we should be getting this frigging live, our British boy is fighting for God's sake, and we are left with delayed coverage. Its all good, delayed is better than nothing.

[TFFP]

i think your all being a bit bitchy about jennings.
he is a very decent boxer,good style,not a bad punch,and good chin.
i can see him out boxing cotto for 1st half of fight,then prob getting stopped later on,i really hope he dusent,he is a good lad.
who knows what that beating he took of margo,who basiclly was a nobody,who was going to get twated of cotto,but cotto folded and giv up after 6 rounds,and we all know what happened in margos next fight.
cotto's got a hard punch,but he aint the graetest boxer in the world
It seems unlikely he would outbox Cotto. This is not a slugging type of pressure fighter. Cotto is a great technical pressure fighter. He beat Mosley with the jab. He outboxed him 7 rounds to 5.

[9Ball]

As much as Jennings is a likeable fellow and as much as I would love nothing more than to see him beat Cotto it just simply isn't going to happen. Cotto is just too big and strong, he will walk through everything Jennings throws at him.
I can see Jennings defence holding out for 5 or maybe 6 rounds but then Cotto will begin to dominate and eventually brutally ko the kid.

A Jennings win would rank along side Honeygans win over Curry.

But like others have said, Jennings will go out on his shield. Fighting to the last. Good luck!

[Grievesy]

Can't see this going any other way than a Cotto TKO. Mid rounds.

Fair play to Jennings though for fighting Cotto. Even for a payday. Good luck to him.

[Healy]

Cotto TKO5 or 6

[Prometheus]

Jennings will barely make it out of the 3rd and will get stopped in the 4th.

[rockandrollstar]

Here's the laydown.

Jennings will make a great start in the first few rounds. Cotto will seemed shock and will take a few punches - not damaging ones though. Then is round 3 or 4, Cotto will start to dominate and force a referee stoppage in round 6 or 7.

What happens if Jennings wins though?????

[widdy]

A nobody? You do watch boxing right?

yes i do mate.
maybe a nobody was the wrong word,but he was compared to what they said about cotto,mosley and the likes:good

[PaddyD1983]

I dont think there's much point going into tactics in this one. Cotto is superior in every department. The question is around Cotto's willingness to fight after the Marg fight.

I think the hand wraps scandal might serve Cotto well here. Cotto can excuse his defeat, in his own head, to the fact that he was fighting Marg with bricks in his opponents hands. I think he may come out intent on finishing Jennings off to prove he still has a lot left.

The question around Jennings is whether he will freeze on the night or put in the performance of his life. Unfortunately I think even the latter will not be enough for him.

Cotto TKO/KO

[196osh]

Jennings is going to get brutalised, unfortunantly.

Cotto TKO4

[mughalmirza786]

Jennings is going to get brutalised, unfortunantly.

Cotto TKO4

Agree. Jennings is going to recieve a savage beating to the body.:!:

[D-MAC]

I believe Cotto is gonna walk in that ring and steamroll poor Jennings. I'm sure the Puerto Rican wants to post an emphatic "I'm back" statement; this won't go 12.

Cotto TKO3

[wuzupman]

It was a pathetic "effort" by Lockett I agree mate.I never saw this fight with lockett can someone explain to me what happened?

[D-MAC]

I never saw this fight with lockett can someone explain to me what happened?

In a nutshell he took a couple of knees and then gave up. Seemed like it was a payday for him, and he never seriously considered biting down on his gumshield and giving it his best shot; never seen the ol "going down with all guns blazing mentality" that you would hope to see from a guy challenging for a world title.

He also made some "I'm just in it for the money" comments pre-fight which, coupled with what transpired in the ring, left a bit of a bad taste in some people's mouths.

[Govanmauler]

Im gonna take the unpopular road.

Im taking Jennings , First few rounds will be tight , Cotto will come on 4-6 but wont be able to finish Jennings , then Cottos somewhat questionable stamina comes into play and Jennings squeaks by him with a narrow decision.

In all honesty its a bit of a dream , but I really don't think Cotto hits as hard as some people think he does , and I expect him to be gun shy , I know the Margo thing has taken a different turn but fighters bouncing back immediatley from an utter kicking like that are rare beasts.

So yeah I know it'll almost certianly be Cotto but I'll take the abuse come Sunday and back Jennings for a shock upset !

[D-MAC]

Im gonna take the unpopular road.

Im taking Jennings , First few rounds will be tight , Cotto will come on 4-6 but wont be able to finish Jennings , then Cottos somewhat questionable stamina comes into play and Jennings squeaks by him with a narrow decision.

In all honesty its a bit of a dream , but I really don't think Cotto hits as hard as some people think he does , and I expect him to be gun shy , I know the Margo thing has taken a different turn but fighters bouncing back immediatley from an utter kicking like that are rare beasts.

So yeah I know it'll almost certianly be Cotto but I'll take the abuse come Sunday and back Jennings for a shock upset !

I'd agree with you if he was fighting Paul Williams, but Jennings is the perfect comeback opponent for him and I can see Cotto having little trouble with him. In all honesty it should be a kicking; Jenning's can't out-box him and he can't out-brawl; the only thing he can do is try and out-last him (as you say) but it would take a Rocky-like effort on his part to accomplish this.

[Govanmauler]

I'd agree with you if he was fighting Paul Williams, but Jennings is the perfect comeback opponent for him and I can see Cotto having little trouble with him. In all honesty it should be a kicking; Jenning's can't out-box him and he can't out-brawl; the only thing he can do is try and out-last him (as you say) but it would take a Rocky-like effort on his part to accomplish this.


No doubt D , no doubt. It'll be tough !

[Healy]

nearly 1 in 10 pick Jennings to outbox Cotto...

[yesihavearm2]

I'm taking Jennings by quittage.

On the basis that Cotto is ruined by Margo's loaded gloves.

[PaddyD1983]

TFFP - have you done one of these for Pavlik? If so can you bump as I cant find it.

No worries if not.

Thanks

[TFFP]

Cotto - 146lbs
Jennings - 146.5lbs

Both looked good in this low quality stream. Higher quality pics comeing soon. Jennings compared favourably physically IMO, but as we know...this means shit.

[TFFP]

TFFP - have you done one of these for Pavlik? If so can you bump as I cant find it.

No worries if not.

Thanks
Sorry Pad, I havn't.

I pondered it, but it looks like a mismatch so I didn't bother. One could argue the same about this, but at least there is British interest.

[Lee Mc]

I've said it since the fight was confirmed. A moral victory for Jennings would be to come out for the 3rd Round.

Cotto, in his head and heart, doesn't believe he lost to Margarito fairly after what happend with Margarito's gloves pre-Mosely. He will turn up angry and will turn up with the intention of hurting Jennings, badly.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see one of the quickest ever victories in recent years in a significant alphabet title fight. Less than 1 minute.

[TFFP]

Yeah great thread mate. Do you make one of these for every big fight?
I do it for all major international fights (aside from mismatches (unless they involve Brits)).

Even some not so big ones if they seem competitive and interesting. For example I did Urango/Ngoudjo.

The plan is to get some international discussion in here too because a lot of people don't enjoy the General Forum.

[El Cepillo]

Cotto KO 7.

I expect Jennings to show heart and give a good account of himself.

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People that will insult you if you dare to differ in opinion
People that will insult you regardless
Knee jerk reactions - post fight being particularly extreme
Drama Queens that use the words "Bum", "Exposed", "Glass jaw" etc liberally, often for world champions.

There are a few other problems but these are the main ones that get me. None of that takes place in here, except for some joking around, so overall its a higher quality of discussion.

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Should be better to come.

[SouthpawSlayer]

cotto ko 4

[antcull]

Cotto has had a mental breakdown.

Jennings UD

[Healy]

Cotto has had a mental breakdown.

Jennings UD

If he had a physical breakdown he would still outbox Jennings i think

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[Healy]

Tat down Cottos right is class

[TFFP]

I think its a bit gay.

No Kessler, is he?

[El Cepillo]

Anyone else read these stories about Cotto getting a bit wild outside of the ring recently? think it might effect his performance?

[El Cepillo]

Kessler's a viking warrior. His Tatoos are crazy.

Were the Vikings from Denmark? :huh

[TFFP]

Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

His tattoo is actually a Viking fighting an Alien. There is a section on his website about it in Danish.

[El Cepillo]

Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

His tattoo is actually a Viking fighting an Alien. There is a section on his website about it in Danish.

Now that is cool.

[TFFP]

Yes I'm a fan of Kessler. And lots of other fighters, but Kessler is my favorite for his style.

I think Kessler stole the idea on his arm from Mads Larsen who has something similar. That is just tribal and the red parts are some kind of monster. On the right of his back and stomach is the monster fighting a viking. Chest is other faces of random monsters. The viking idea apart from heritage is supposed to be be metaphorical for his boxing career as vikings were traders that had to conquer the world to get what they wanted. Shame that isn't coming into fruition right now!

I havn't actually stared at his body all day to realise this :-(, it says on his website about the tattoos in Danish and I've seen a lot of bullshit spoken about them. Now it is cleared up!

[ishy]

Cotto's tattoo looks quite homo.

[El Cepillo]

Cotto's tattoo looks quite homo.

Cotto is starting to look seriously trashy, IMO. He doesn't have half the class of a Tito.

[Beeston Brawler]

Anyone else read these stories about Cotto getting a bit wild outside of the ring recently? think it might effect his performance?

I have yeah......

He admitted going up to 175/180lbs after his beating from Margarito..... from memory I remember hearing that he likes the olde ginger ale, perhaps he indulged plenty this time.

[zulander]

Is Jennings taller than Cotto and does he have a reach advantage??
Emanuel Steward is always talking about taller pressure fighters being more difficult to face then shorter ones but if Jennings can get into the fight land some shots and get Cotto going backwards the upset could be on... That said i think Cotto is one of the best fighters at any weight out there and Jennings hasnt ffaced the same level of competition so fully expecing a pretty routine stoppage after 5 rounds for Cotto BUT id love the upset the happen

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[Max Molyneux]

Are Ricans big fat arses? Walking over 30 pounds past weigh In weight.

Shame Jennings Is nothing like Margarito or he could win.

[trotter]

but fighters bouncing back immediatley from an utter kicking like that are rare beasts.


That's a very pertinent point actually, hadn't thought of it like that

Cotto could be very tentative, if Jennings can just make it competitive and start to scratch the surface of Cotto's confidence, it could get interesting

[bricky]

everybody has written off jennings,he has to look at moving all the time and everything coming of the jab staying very focused and if he gets beyond 5-6 rounds he might just do it, got to look out for cottos left hook, cotto will not be any fitter than jennings, will be very hard for jennings. but i wish all the very best and i hope he does it.

[brown bomber]

I've saved my prediction till now... I like mick and this is in no way putting him down as a fighter, he's a very good domestic level fighter who could do well at Euro level. I think Jennings will start fairly fast and Cotto will be somewhat suprised intially by his tenacity. But Cotto, despite been a slow starter tends to suprise opponents early, so don't be suprised to see jennings at least rocked early, maybe he'll suffer a first round knock down.

I think the It is going to take Cotto a little time to get into the fight after the initial opening exchanges. Jennnings fast hands and good movement will see him pecking away... not on the back foot but intelligently moving in and out of range. Say three rounds in Cotto will start taking over with his eye catching counters, it will still be fairly even but Cotto class will be beginning to tell. By around the seventh round Jennings will have been counter punched sufficiently to make him realise that the fight is no longer winnable on points. Here Jennings' heart and pride will hurt him. He'll start to stand and trade with Cotto. Cotto's hooks will find there way behind Jennings vey frontal guard. Jennings will wobble andas he tries to fight cotto off, Miguel will loop those left hooks into Jennings long body and force a knockdown.

Jennings won't give in, he'll prob try and get up and carry on but if he makes it to the end of the round Brian Hughes pulls him out and if he goes down again the towel comes in...

Cotto via stoppage rounds 6-9

[BremnerBomber]

When is the Jennings start time. ?

[TFFP]

I've saved my prediction till now... I like mick and this is in no way putting him down as a fighter, he's a very good domestic level fighter who could do well at Euro level. I think Jennings will start fairly fast and Cotto will be somewhat suprised intially by his tenacity. But Cotto, despite been a slow starter tends to suprise opponents early, so don't be suprised to see jennings at least rocked early, maybe he'll suffer a first round knock down.

I think the It is going to take Cotto a little time to get into the fight after the initial opening exchanges. Jennnings fast hands and good movement will see him pecking away... not on the back foot but intelligently moving in and out of range. Say three rounds in Cotto will start taking over with his eye catching counters, it will still be fairly even but Cotto class will be beginning to tell. By around the seventh round Jennings will have been counter punched sufficiently to make him realise that the fight is no longer winnable on points. Here Jennings' heart and pride will hurt him. He'll start to stand and trade with Cotto. Cotto's hooks will find there way behind Jennings vey frontal guard. Jennings will wobble andas he tries to fight cotto off, Miguel will loop those left hooks into Jennings long body and force a knockdown.

Jennings won't give in, he'll prob try and get up and carry on but if he makes it to the end of the round Brian Hughes pulls him out and if he goes down again the towel comes in...

Cotto via stoppage rounds 6-9
Very nice prediction.

I can see a lot of sense in this.

[dan-b]

I think Jennings is going to gut it out and go the distance but will lose a wide UD.

[Grant1]

When is the Jennings start time. ?

Think it's 3.30am.

Not sure though.

[bored]

can't wait. mates are coming round soon.

My prediction, I don't need to offer analaysis.

jennings KO1.

[TFFP]

Let's go

I don't know what you guys are getting on Setanta but...

Highly routed Russian prospect Matt KOROBOV is about to face journeyman Cory Jones over 4 rounds...middleweights.

[ishy]

Oh bollocks, I've just made a rbr thread :patsch.

[Grant1]

Let's go

I don't know what you guys are getting on Setanta but...

Highly routed Russian prospect Matt KOROBOV is about to face journeyman Cory Jones over 4 rounds...middleweights.

Yup, that's us too.

[TFFP]

First impressions...not quite as impressed as I'd hope to be. Looks okay techincally if a little stiff. Very left hand happy.

That other guy is riding the bike.

[ishy]

Okay, I have sacrificed my rbr thread.

[TFFP]

:lol:

I think we did it at the same second. This is a bit of a snoozer. Duddy-Vanda should be fun.

[ishy]

:lol:

This fight is extremely dull, worst I've seen Korobov look so far. I expect a war from Duddy and Vanda!

[GazOC]

Okay, I have sacrificed my rbr thread.

:lol: wimp!!!;)

So I'll ask the same question I asked on your thread. What undercard was the Russian on? Hopkins-Pavlik? JC-Jones?

[ishy]

:lol: wimp!!!;)

So I'll ask the same question I asked I'm your thread. What undercard was the Russian on? Hopkins-Pavlik? JC-Jones?

He was on the Margarito-Mosely card last time. He made his debut on the Chavez Jr-Vanda II card.

[TFFP]

Margarito-Mosley?

[TFFP]

Lazy SOB.

Boxrec>clickdate>Ctrl+F>"Korobov"

[GazOC]

Cheers guys. He didn't look anything special then either IIRC.

[ishy]

He's already 26, turned pro late. World Am Champ but lost in the quarters in the Olympics I think.

Woh!!!!!

[GazOC]

Lazy SOB.

Boxrec>clickdate>Ctrl+F>"Korobov"

Too complicated.....

[ishy]

A snoozer and them BAM!!!!!!

[TFFP]

Wow. Nice finish. Half makes up for the dull fight.

He looks too much like Ibragimov for me to take him seriously. Like a janitor or some shit.

[BamBam]

lovely choppy shot there. got to love that.

[ishy]

We got Michael Buffer in the house!!!


'From Russia with Love' :lol:

[ishy]

Buncey is hypeing up DeGale, saying the bloke who beat Korobov in the Olympics was 'bashed up' by DeGale.

[BamBam]

He's not hyping DeGale. He's just saying don't get carried away with the Russian isn't he? I wouldn't get carried away with either of them to be honest. This Koribov doesn't do much for me. DeGale won't do much either IMO

[TFFP]

Cotto is such an extrovert.

He just did the most monotonous, dull, cliched, rent-a-quote interview EVER.

[Stickandmove]

When is Cotto - Jennings?

[ishy]

Cotto is such an extrovert.


:huh That's a random comment.

[SouthpawSlayer]

i think korobov is good, what a shot at the end, my russian coach boxed with korobov in russia and says he is going places

[SouthpawSlayer]

good luck john, dont fuck up

[TFFP]

What are expecting from Duddy?

Another Smichet performance. Or the usual mediocre version that fought Eastman and Campas?

[ishy]

Duddy-Vanda now. I hope Duddy's doesn't try and box this guy, want to see a tear up.

[BamBam]

Interesting to see what Duddy does in his 'native' New York :nono sort it out Kerr lad :good

[GazOC]

Chavev jr beat Vanda on points, Duddy should aim to do better.

[TFFP]

No tear up so far.

Think Duddy boxed quite nicely there. Very nice work with the left hand.

[SouthpawSlayer]

duddy looking good

[BamBam]

10-09 Duddy.

Nice work off the jab. Think he realises the world title crack is just a fight away and intends to box in this fight the way he will against Pavlik.

[ishy]

Duddy's defence is still leaky. Jabbed very well though.

[SouthpawSlayer]

What are expecting from Duddy?

Another Smichet performance. Or the usual mediocre version that fought Eastman and Campas?

id like a bit of both, it has the capablity to be fight of the night so id like duddy not to box all night get some rounds under his belt then give the crowd what they want

[GazOC]

Does anyone rate Duddy or Chavez jr? IMO both are going to get found out when they get into real world class.

[BamBam]

20-18 Duddy

Duddy in behind the jab again. trades a little bit late on and you could see he was dying to dive in behind it. did well to stay away and go against his instincts and stick to the plan

[SouthpawSlayer]

fight is getting better although that blonde judge is distracting me too much damn fine

[TFFP]

Vanda having a little more success with his own jab. Nice counter from Duddy wobbles him, only balance issues I think. Duddy still largely outboxed him.

Vanda needs to get inside and rough this guy up. He can't win like this. Let's see if he can't tempt Duddy into a war.

[ishy]

Does anyone rate Duddy or Chavez jr? IMO both are going to get found out when they get into real world class.

I don;t mind Chavez Jr. but he won't do much. Will be in some entertaining fight before but nowhere near world level. Duddy is Euro level at best, if that IMO.

[SouthpawSlayer]

wait a minute she is quite fat

[ishy]

wait a minute she is quite fat

:lol:

[TFFP]

Nothing wrong with a bit of fat. I've always fancied boning a chubby lass.

30-27 Duddy

[BamBam]

30-27 Duddy

sticking to the plan so far. you know he's going to get drawn into a brawl sooner or later though

[SouthpawSlayer]

duddy up 3, not long now till cotto destroys jennings

[GazOC]

wait a minute she is quite fat

How many times do you fail to notice that small detail at half 2 in the morning?;)

[SouthpawSlayer]

wtf is going on with the lights ffs setanta

[ishy]

Is it just me or is the Setanta picture fucked up?

[SouthpawSlayer]

How many times do you fail to notice that small detail at half 2 in the morning?;)

it wouldnt be the first time, although this time im sober :huh

[TFFP]

Vanda is clearly not as effective at this weight. Duddy's jab is the difference between him and Chavez. And Duddy's power is keeping him honest, on the backfoot.

Vanda's strength isn't even coming into it.

[JIM KELLY]

great!!!!!!

[SouthpawSlayer]

god damn it sounds like a good round come on setanta fix this shit

[BamBam]

ahh!!! come on get the picture back!

[ishy]

Back on for me now.

[SouthpawSlayer]

ok we are back none of that again please

[JIM KELLY]

the timer meter was on low..come on buncey throw them coins back in.

[BamBam]

Vanda looks a bit tired to me

[SouthpawSlayer]

i have that one a draw because i didnt see most of the round

[ishy]

Saw a clip of Jennings there.

[TFFP]

I've got the Top Rank coverage...

I think you guys might have missed the nice right Vanda landed. Duddy took it well...and didn't respond by going to war which is a change in approach from him. Got right back on the jab.

40-36 Duddy

[ishy]

Yeah, we've got the Top Rank coverage as well but Setanta lost the signal or something. No worries now as it's back up.

[McGrain]

:roflJennings in his fucking vest! He'll be in the Bovril next!! Man, I hope he pulls it off.

[SouthpawSlayer]

jennings is wearing a marks and spencer wife beater vest, classy

[TFFP]

I like this from Duddy. Time to step it up now, see if he can hurt this guy too. He's softened him up.

[SouthpawSlayer]

i preferred the old duddy

[McGrain]

Duddy just doesn't want to get cut man. He's got his chin down and he's working behind that jab and he just does not want to get cut. He might Wlad him in 9 or 10 but I don't think we'll see a big gear shift TBH.

[GazOC]

i preferred the old duddy

The "old Duddy" was better to watch but the "new Duddy" will probably stand a better chance against decent fighters.

[BamBam]

Do you blame Duddy. He lost 1 year of his career (basically) and a world title shot because he went to war one time too many.

He made his name as a crowd pleaser who ploughs forward and slugs it out. He is entitled to take a fight off from that to ensure he gets to the world title shot. Interesting talk about him going to 154 though

[TFFP]

Duddy is a lot more relaxed. He was trying way too hard to impress recently. He was desperately trying to get the fight with Pavlik.

I think he's been meditating.

[SouthpawSlayer]

duddy has won every rd, lets see him take it into a brawl

damn cotto looks chunky

[BamBam]

59 - 55 Duddy

[JIM KELLY]

duddy has won every rd, lets see him take it into a brawl

damn cotto looks chunky

i noticed also, he will walk over Jennings unfortunately! I hope im wrong.

[maka]

holy shit, i fear for jennings, cotto looks in pristine condition

[TFFP]

Shit, Duddy still gets hit with huge flush shots.

[SouthpawSlayer]

Do you blame Duddy. He lost 1 year of his career (basically) and a world title shot because he went to war one time too many.

He made his name as a crowd pleaser who ploughs forward and slugs it out. He is entitled to take a fight off from that to ensure he gets to the world title shot. Interesting talk about him going to 154 though

no i cant blame him at all its been a near perfect performance by duddy, i just looking for blood tonight, maybe jennings or rubio will fill that void,

i gave vanda that round

[McGrain]

Do you think Duddy would beat Cotto at 160?

[JIM KELLY]

war duddy!!!! let them go!!

[BamBam]

Duddy will always get hit cleanly, I don't think he can work that out of his style, but he is getting hit with less. add that to the fact he has a decent chin and it's something he can live with up to a point

[SouthpawSlayer]

holy shit, i fear for jennings, cotto looks in pristine condition


yup just what i was thinking, he has huge middleweight quads

[BamBam]

Not enough body work from Duddy by the way. Thats something I'd like to see improve

[GazOC]

Cotto looked drained at the weigh in but, fuck me, he's rehydrated. He looks huge.

[SouthpawSlayer]

Do you think Duddy would beat Cotto at 160?

size difference would be too much even for cotto

[JIM KELLY]

hahah dope song that is playing..dipset!!

[SouthpawSlayer]

that ring card girl in the purple dress is ruining my life

[BamBam]

78-74 Duddy

Clean boxing performance (aside from the odd power shot from Vanda landing, which Duddy has taken well every time) but not much in the way of action. You can almost read Duddys mind by looking at him 'Don't fuck up the title shot again, don't fuck up the title shot again'

[TFFP]

Do you think Duddy would beat Cotto at 160?
:think

At 154 and I'd think about it.

[McGrain]

that ring card girl in the purple dress is ruining my life

I just said to someone else, normally American card girl look like they were scraped off the floor of a brotherl that afternoon.

These girls are a bit special.

[SouthpawSlayer]

who does that ref think he is, duddy should of jabbed him

[ishy]

One more round and then Jennings is up next!

[SouthpawSlayer]

duddys corner are enforcing him to throw over 30 jabs a round, interesting

dont think that will help if they fight pavlik

[BamBam]

ha the ref has money on a KO I reckon.

Duddy 88-83

This is a strange fight. How have the rest of you got it?

I know I may well be biased because I'm Irish ,although, I always do my best not to be when scoring

[ishy]

I think Duddy should move down to 154, that weight would suit him better.

[TFFP]

You all staying on shift for Pavlik-Rubio?

I'm sure the entrances and formalities will take longer than the fight for the pussies that are thinking of bed.

[SouthpawSlayer]

nice shots by vanda nows the time john ditch that fucking jab

[ishy]

Of course, what's the point of staying up this long and then missing the main event.

[JIM KELLY]

urgh what is this brotherly love?? lol

[BamBam]

97-93 Duddy

Last round summed it up. Try and try as he might to be a boxer-puncher, he's never going to be able to stay out of the way of taking big shots. He's blessed he has a good chin.

[GazOC]

You all staying on shift for Pavlik-Rubio?



Yep.

[McGrain]

Maybe Vanda doesn't have the gas, but I think if Vanda had put his foot on the gas half way through seven, that could have got interesting.

[SouthpawSlayer]

they are playing that puerto rico tune big pun, jennings is in the lines den

we could of done with a 12 rounder for that fight, think i had duddy winning by 3 or 4

[TFFP]

8 rounds to 2 for John Duddy on mine.

I think 154 is a good idea if he can make that. He's really not that big compared to guys like Abraham and Pavlik. He's not that hard of a puncher either.

[stuey]

duddy is going to get raped if he ever gets a world title shot:deal

[JIM KELLY]

....main event next.

[ishy]

Going by this, there isn't much between Duddy and the Son of Legend, Chavez Jr (though Chavez has had a shitload more fights).

[SouthpawSlayer]

You all staying on shift for Pavlik-Rubio?

I'm sure the entrances and formalities will take longer than the fight for the pussies that are thinking of bed.


i cant see why people ask this question, been staying up late for as long as i can remember, my motto is if you aint gonna watch it live dont watch it at all

i work nights though as well which makes it easier for me

[TFFP]

I much prefer Duddy to Chavez. That kid is garbage.

[McGrain]

Duddy just isn't that type of fighter, never has been. He's not a contender, in the old meaning of the word. He's not a journeyman either, he's just a pro. He'll get sliced up at title level whatever weight he fight at, though yes, he does have more chance of landing a strap at 154 than 160.

Is he that type of character though? The type of discipline that allows you to go south in weight and keep your sharpnes is rare indeed.

[SouthpawSlayer]

duddy is going to get raped if he ever gets a world title shot:deal

:deal:deal

i think he might actually die against pavlik, his chin is too good for his own good, and his defence is so poor, i dont like saying this type of shit but i do fear for him against pavlik

[GazOC]

duddy is going to get raped if he ever gets a world title shot:deal
I agree.

[faisal]

thats a scary fuckin commertial

[ishy]

The son of El Grande Campeon de Mexico > Duddy

[SouthpawSlayer]

hopefully jennings puts up a good fight, i really want to see a bit of a test for cotto, i also hope the stage dont get to him and he starts thinking holy fuck im in against miguel angel cotto this motherfucker is an animal

[JIM KELLY]

thats a scary fuckin commertial

the trippy one? with the kids?

[SouthpawSlayer]

theres brickfists

[TFFP]

My ass.

Chavez Jr is a lethargic fighter. He has no snap or conviction about his work whatsoever. I don't know how they have the balls to put that kid on PPV.

[SouthpawSlayer]

the trippy one? with the kids?

yeah thats freaky

[ishy]

My ass.

Chavez Jr is a lethargic fighter. He has no snap or conviction about his work whatsoever. I don't know how they have the balls to put that kid on PPV.

Because he is the offspring of El Grand Campeon de Mehico.


He looked much better in the Vanda rematch (still a shit defence though).

[JIM KELLY]

wow ...getting boo'ed huh!

[ishy]

What a shit rendition of the national anthem.

[SouthpawSlayer]

whos this fat bitch, she cant sing for shit

[stuey]

What a shit rendition of the national anthem.


fuck a duck......that was terrible:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[SouthpawSlayer]

looks like he is having a constipated shit, the puerto rican singer that is

[Headphone]

She sounded irish.

[ishy]

and the Ricans were booing, didn't the Yanks get there knickers in twist cos the Hatton fans booed there anthem?

[GazOC]

The son of El Grande Campeon de Mexico > Duddy

I'd take Duddy. Not that I'd care much either way....;)

[ishy]

looks like he is having a constipated shit, the puerto rican singer that is


:rofl:rofl

[JIM KELLY]

and the Ricans were booing, didn't the Yanks get there knickers in twist cos the Hatton fans booed there anthem?


i bet it was the Irish who were booing, lol.

[SouthpawSlayer]

She sounded irish.

yeah an irish woman with a posh english accent:huh:huh:huh

[BamBam]

why the fuck do they have to sing the american anthem? just because the fight is in their country? a load of bollocks get on with it!!

[TFFP]

The sooner the Americans take some advice from the Germans and get the hotties with violins...the better.

Much classier.

[SouthpawSlayer]

i bet it was the Irish who were booing, lol.

never:smoke

[faisal]

the lady singing the us national anthem is fit

[ishy]

i bet it was the Irish who were booing, lol.

:lol::lol:

[SouthpawSlayer]

here we go, its good to see cotto back in the ring

[ishy]

Ok, here we go.....

Come on Michael!!!

[JIM KELLY]

*snorts a line*

come on Jennings!!!!!!!

[SouthpawSlayer]

the lady singing the us national anthem is fit
:hey

[TFFP]

I really hope this isn't a Lockett situation again. And I don't mean quitting. I hope he isn't as far out of his depth. It was embarrassing.

[GazOC]

Lets fucking have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[antcull]

he is a f**king antichrist!!!!!

COME ON MICHAEL! COTTO IS AN OVERRATED BUM

117-111 Jennings....easy

[ishy]

What's this faggot shit Cotto is entering the ring to?

[Healy]

Arse's

Just put a fiver on Cotto to win in the 5th round

[SouthpawSlayer]

its really just occurred to me how fucked jennings actually is

[JIM KELLY]

I really hope this isn't a Lockett situation again. And I don't mean quitting. I hope he isn't as far out of his depth. It was embarrassing.

is ****** in the building?

yeah i hope jennings goes for it, for his brothers and dignity, lose or win, just go for it and go ballistic.

[TFFP]

Keep your elbows tucked in Michael :-(

[antcull]

its really just occurred to me how fucked jennings actually is

:-(

Keep the faith bruva

[SouthpawSlayer]

jennings looks stiff as fuck looks too tight he needs to loosen up

[ishy]

At least Jennings isn't trying that 'mean look' thing Lockett tried to do...

[JIM KELLY]

i hope mike wrapped a double cup down below.

[SouthpawSlayer]

Keep your elbows tucked in Michael :-(

was thinking the same, cotto is gonna land at will down there

[JonOli]

If Jennings goes the distance it will be a near miracle.

[faisal]

goan

[Healy]

Jennings is FUCKED

DING ING DING

[ishy]

I'm giving Jennings the first round :yep

[BamBam]

jennings looks nervous as fuck and I don't blame him. well done to him though. on his bike, don't make it easy for Cotto. don't give him anything early.

[JIM KELLY]

OK jennings using space rather well. But Cotto is chasing for that body blow.

[SouthpawSlayer]

i suppose there is an argument to give that one to jennings i gave it even though

[ishy]

i suppose there is an argument to give that one to jennings i gave it even though

If it's close it goes to Jennings :deal.

[TFFP]

He did just about okay. Looked nervous when Cotto got in close.

I hope he realised he HAS to hit this guy with right hands. He can't run all night.

[IronBull]

jenning wasting energy

[antcull]

Im givin Jennings that mo' fo' round.

11 to go!

[ishy]

Im givin Jennings that mo' fo' round.

11 to go!

:good

[GazOC]

Jennings needs to start landing punches.

[BamBam]

Good lad Jennings, keep it going. Cotto is warking up though. Giving it a good lash though is Jennings. At least he's not being stupid and handing it to Cotto on a plate

[SouthpawSlayer]

cotto's round, as time goes on class is going to come more into play

jennings is giving a good account of himself though, is it just me or does anyone else think cotto is holding back.......a lot

[TFFP]

Well, he's doing better than Lockett in that he's not taken any punishment.

He needs to stop reaching with punches and get some body into them. They won't stop Cotto or make him think.

He's gonna have to engage eventually too.

[stuey]

cotto cuts the ring off so well.......

[BamBam]

I think Cotto is using this fight to work on stuff. I think you are right, he is holding, back. Not looking for a whopper KO or anything. Using it as a confidence builder and a handy few rounds after the Margo loss. Expect him to step it up after 6 or so

[JIM KELLY]

lol @ Miguel's interpreter!!!

[46and0]

Jennings fighting a smart fight so far, landing some decent jabs. He will need a KO to have any chance of winning though.

[SouthpawSlayer]

third to cotto he is starting to get into this now, the first signs of jennings looking uncomrtable in that round,

[JIM KELLY]

he's gone.

[Pug1list]

jennings dow again from bodyshot

[ishy]

Damn!! Cotto's stepped it up now.