Training

[Drofrah]

I will start by saying that im 6'2 and 203 pounds. I have started training quite hard (At least by my standard) and am struggling with what to eat at what times. Ill stick on my routine and if anyone could help that would be great. Bearing in mind that i am after weight loss at this point.

Monday AM - Weight circuit
Monday PM - Cardio + bag work
Tuesday AM - Run (around 5k)
Tuesday PM - Nothing
Wednesday AM - Weight Circuit
Wednesday PM - Cardio - Bag work
Thursday AM - Nothing
Thursday PM - Thai Boxing
Friday AM - Swim (around 1k)
Friday PM - Bag work
Saturday - Nothing
Sunday - 10k run

I lost half a stone last week and that seemed quite a lot so i was wondering what i should eat to have a more sustained weight loss and feel stronger doing it.

Thanks

[alex paterson]

If u want 2 lose weight dont do a lot of weights they build up muscles and will therefore put on weight but if u stick 2 ur plan youll definetly lose weight.

[GPater11093]

cardio work helps you lose weight

ignore all that training zone stuff just get out and do cardio running is the best for weight loss but you have to still eat proper just eat healthily

btw weights do bulk you up but im guessing you are dowing low weights high reps as they tone muscles instead of build muscles

[GPater11093]

about stuff to eat

eat what you normally do but have 5 meals aday but smaller than normal and eating healthy is all common sense

[RDJ]

btw weights do bulk you up but im guessing you are dowing low weights high reps as they tone muscles instead of build muscles

There's no such thing as toning muscle.

[ConcretePete]

Ive been told that doing weight training will help weight loss because the more muscle mass you have the quicker your fat will metabolise. Im goin to give it a try because I did nothing but running for 3 months, and lost 30 pounds. But now Ive been stuck at 210 pounds for like 6 weeks even though Ive increased the intensity of the runs.

[GPater11093]

didnt know that RDJ im just saying what my PE teacher told me

[Boxaholic]

didnt know that RDJ im just saying what my PE teacher told me

Your PE teacher should know better :roll:

[BlackWater]

didnt know that RDJ im just saying what my PE teacher told me

He's full of crap.

My doctor told me that if I wanted to build strength that I should high reps with lighter weight :patsch

[boxingtactics07]

I would throw some sprints in there. That'll burn the fat without sacrificing the muscle. If you're going down in weight, it make more sense to lift HEAVIER to avoid strength losses. The only way you're going to bulk up is by eating more than you are now. You don't go do some bench presses and magically gain weight each time or there wouldn't be any light powerlifting classes. Stick to basic compound weights. The more muscles that are hit, the better; regardless if you're trying to lose or gain weight.

[Boxaholic]

He's full of crap.

My doctor told me that if I wanted to build strength that I should high reps with lighter weight :patsch

It can build strength, its just not the best way of doing it.

[Scott Bolinger]

There's no such thing as toning muscle.

thats just getting in shape, toning up the muscle without bulking up.

[Drofrah]

Cheers for the responses,

I was also told that high reps lower weight would help me lose weight, is this not the case?

[scurlaruntings]

There's no such thing as toning muscle.I hate it when people say that crap. Like the common phrase of turning fat into muscle.. Like Jesus turned water into wine...

[scurlaruntings]

He's full of crap.

My doctor told me that if I wanted to build strength that I should high reps with lighter weight :patschHow can you build strength by repping with a LIGHT weight? Please explain..

[Primadonna Kool]

It is impossible to turn muscle into fat, they are two totally different things.

Muscle is Micro Damaged "Micro Tears" during training, and you regenerate and build New Muscle.

All training is..

Is a Damaging Proccess.....!

[scurlaruntings]

Ive been told that doing weight training will help weight loss because the more muscle mass you have the quicker your fat will metabolise. Im goin to give it a try because I did nothing but running for 3 months, and lost 30 pounds. But now Ive been stuck at 210 pounds for like 6 weeks even though Ive increased the intensity of the runs.Change your diet. Eat more complex carbs. Look at your calorie intake and what TYPE of calories you are consuming. Lifting heavy weights with excellent form is better for loosing weight as your metabolism increases as well as your resting heart rate. People shit on weight lifting but the facts remain is great for weight loss and lean muscle gains.

[ConcretePete]

Change your diet. Eat more complex carbs. Look at your calorie intake and what TYPE of calories you are consuming. Lifting heavy weights with excellent form is better for loosing weight as your metabolism increases as well as your resting heart rate. People shit on weight lifting but the facts remain is great for weight loss and lean muscle gains.


Thanks, ill give it a shot. I didnt think complex carbs were good for losing weight?? Ive been told to eat things like pasta, bread and potatoes sparingly and reduce them later in the day. I don't know what to believe anymore. Maybe i shoiuld go on the jimmy page smack and strawberry milkshake diet!

[scurlaruntings]

Thanks, ill give it a shot. I didnt think complex carbs were good for losing weight?? Ive been told to eat things like pasta, bread and potatoes sparingly and reduce them later in the day. I don't know what to believe anymore. Maybe i shoiuld go on the jimmy page smack and strawberry milkshake diet!Pasta is so so. Theres better complex carbs to consume than that. Whole meal bread is fine. White bread no no. Potatoes are great. You can eat less carbs and this will help you to loose weight. But its false economy as carbs are needed for energy/glycogen stores. Loose fat not muscle or dehydrating. Thats a very bad practice. Find out what your BF is. That will give you an indication as to your conditioning.

[ConcretePete]

Pasta is so so. Theres better complex carbs to consume than that. Whole meal bread is fine. White bread no no. Potatoes are great. You can eat less carbs and this will help you to loose weight. But its false economy as carbs are needed for energy/glycogen stores. Loose fat not muscle or dehydrating. Thats a very bad practice. Find out what your BF is. That will give you an indication as to your
conditioning.

Nice one, thanks for the info man.

[Sdt]

To be a better overall athlete you need to have a little bit of everything, doing lots of cardio will help and lifting weights too. I also found that adding body weight workouts is pretty good too(push ups abs etc...). As for what to eat, eat lots of proteins and cut on the carbs and the fat the best things to eat are chicken, extra lean grounded beef, tuna, salmon, egg whites and pretty much every kind of sea fruits. As for the carbs the best things are whole wheat rice and bread. Eat 5-6 times a day, with aproximately 2 hours and a half and 3 hours between each meal. Also, if you can buy dextrose somewhere, take about 50 grams of it right after your workout (any beverage with dextrose might do too like gatorade) and take a protein shake around 15 minutes after, the quick absorption of sugar raise your insulin level and put your body in an anabolic mode (basicly your body will use the proteins you ingest later to build lean muscle mass). BTW those advices are to cut off the fat while retaining a maximum of muscle mass (retaining all of it is impossible).

[scurlaruntings]

To be a better overall athlete you need to have a little bit of everything, doing lots of cardio will help and lifting weights too. I also found that adding body weight workouts is pretty good too(push ups abs etc...). As for what to eat, eat lots of proteins and cut on the carbs and the fat the best things to eat are chicken, extra lean grounded beef, tuna, salmon, egg whites and pretty much every kind of sea fruits. As for the carbs the best things are whole wheat rice and bread. Eat 5-6 times a day, with aproximately 2 hours and a half and 3 hours between each meal. Also, if you can buy dextrose somewhere, take about 50 grams of it right after your workout (any beverage with dextrose might do too like gatorade) and take a protein shake around 15 minutes after, the quick absorption of sugar raise your insulin level and put your body in an anabolic mode (basicly your body will use the proteins you ingest later to build lean muscle mass). BTW those advices are to cut off the fat while retaining a maximum of muscle mass (retaining all of it is impossible).This it will but PROTEIN is NOT a source of energy.

[Sdt]

Not what I meant, protein isn't a source of energy(even though it can be but it's not desirable), carbs and fat are. But the goal here is to lower the intake of carbs and fat so that the body will use it's glycogen and lipids reserve.

[Primadonna Kool]

Your body can break anything down into Glucose for energy.

But protien, should be used for growth and repair.

That's it's job..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1