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thewoo
08-18-2007, 04:05 PM
Lets not get into technicalities here like saying ____is not a runner, he's a boxer or _______ doesn't hug he just rough's up his opponents a little. Based your own definition of what consititutes running and hugging which is more painfull to watch?

Toopretty
08-18-2007, 04:12 PM
A runner is a guy that is moving constantly in the ring in a way where he is not trying to fight for majority of the round but stops and makes you chase him and look for openings. If a runner has power he can be lethal b/c the guy trying to engage him can be caught with a big punch doing so. A hugger like Hatton/Ruiz are guys that clinch constantly as a tactic to land there offense or hide there lack of defense. You can actually see hatton engage and look for a clinch for no apparent reason. Then once his clinches he physically walks the guy back to the ropes and when the referee breaks he throws a punch during the break and then once the refree steps away he lunges with a big punch hoping to land then clinches again if he misses or lands. Just like a fighter uses a jab to find a range for there big punches. Hatton uses a clinch to that effect. Ruiz just wrestles to tie your arms up so you cant punch him. Been that way since being crumbled by Tua. All in all they both are not entertaining but something entertaining can come out of it. IE Hatton/Castillo. Roy Jones danced around the ring a lot of fights making the guy punch and miss without countering a few times...then all of a sudden bam..counter punch the guy hits the ground thus making him an exciting "runner" per say. Roy never got dirty on the inside and when he did he got knocked out.

BobDigi5060
08-18-2007, 04:19 PM
Huggers. Hatton doesn't bother me all that much but Ruiz kills me.

Lacyace
08-18-2007, 04:23 PM
In boxing, I've never seen anyone literally run. I don't see how you can win a fight running. I have seen plenty huggers who's only gamplan is to jab and hold.

sues2nd
08-18-2007, 04:55 PM
In boxing, I've never seen anyone literally run. I don't see how you can win a fight running. I have seen plenty huggers who's only gamplan is to jab and hold.

Go watch Andre Dirrell vs Curtis Stevens. That my friend is running.....

Words
08-18-2007, 04:59 PM
Depends what you mean by hugging. Ricky Hatton is a hugger, but he throws plenty of punches and is often in exciting fights. Whilst he's clinching he's always working away, thats his style. John Ruiz on the other hand would hug to AVOID having to throw punches. Which is really dull.

Scar
08-18-2007, 05:00 PM
Definitely a hugger, it's just WAY more annoying. Good movement isn't considered "running", I love to watch fighters that have the stamina to move well and also land big bombs while at it for 12 rounds and win the fight. Just incase you mean running as in literally, you know, Spinks vs Taylor then that's a totally different case. But I'll stick with hugging anyway.

Scar
08-18-2007, 05:01 PM
Depends what you mean by hugging. Ricky Hatton is a hugger, but he throws plenty of punches and is often in exciting fights. Whilst he's clinching he's always working away, thats his style. John Ruiz on the other hand would hug to AVOID having to throw punches. Which is really dull.

Hatton's style is more annoying than Ruiz because it's worse than just illegal. At least Ruiz hugs to stop his opponent from landing another, Hatton hugs to do the same and also lands his own the cheap way and that's worse.

Toopretty
08-18-2007, 05:02 PM
Go watch Andre Dirrell vs Curtis Stevens. That my friend is running.....

No, I dont even call that running. I call that not giving guys a Psycho exam before a fight. Dirrell is certified. I mean, did you see him in the corner. He was saying some crazy shit. I mean he literally is crazy. I mean, he is going to do something crazy. Mark my words.:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut

Toopretty
08-18-2007, 05:03 PM
Hatton's style is more annoying than Ruiz because it's worse than just illegal. At least Ruiz hugs to stop his opponent from landing another, Hatton hugs to do the same and also lands his own the cheap way and that's worse.

:good:good:good Hatton does have it down to a dirty science. I mean if you hit him with a body punch he jumps in the air and acts like it is low. I mean he has a whole load of dirty tricks..:yep

Scar
08-18-2007, 05:06 PM
:good:good:good Hatton does have it down to a dirty science. I mean if you hit him with a body punch he jumps in the air and acts like it is low. I mean he has a whole load of dirty tricks..:yep

The low blow against Tszyu SHOULD'VE costed him a point, I mean it wasn't just intentional but also BRUTAL. It's not like Tszyu landed his low blow on purpose, Hatton's was CLEARLY on purpose and it was VICIOUS, like he landed it with full power and whenever you watch it I swear just watching it could hurt you. That was as cheap as it gets and wasn't the only dirty move he pulled that night but still got away with all, I wouldn't want to watch the same junk against PBF so taking that fight to America was more than fair.

JAM Killer
08-18-2007, 07:53 PM
The most irriatating thing to watch for me is a brawler who can't really punch. Oscar Larios! And a bunch of other mexicans.

ko factor
08-18-2007, 09:10 PM
Both

PH|LLA
08-18-2007, 09:17 PM
was a tough choice for me

in the end i chose runner, just cause i can't stand Cory Spinks

But seriously i like both styles.

Rollo
08-18-2007, 09:57 PM
I think we had a similar thread a while ago, and as I said back then; it depends on what happens in between hugging and running. It is okay to hug or run, or both, as long as there are some action along with it.

Boom_Boom
08-18-2007, 10:04 PM
Runner

Cory Spinks and Andre Dirrel in their last performances made me wanted to punch a hole on my wall.

Carlos Primera
08-18-2007, 11:17 PM
hugger w/out doubt imo. ruiz hugging tactics is the epitome of a boring style. hattons hugs are Ok as he's working the body inside and that rough style takes a lot out of guys. runners like spinks are horrible as well, but at least theirs some flow to a fight, and it's not stop/start ala ruiz. so hugging is definitley more frustrating

knockout
08-19-2007, 03:54 AM
Hugger because they stop the action.