View Full Version : Franklin vs Wand at UFC 99?
LB3000
02-18-2009, 05:45 PM
According to MMA Weekly both fighters have agreed to fight each other. They also claim the fight could be at catch weight of around 195lbs. Risky fight for Wand but I hope he pulls it off.
Grievesy
02-18-2009, 06:04 PM
I've got Franklin by KO. But he needs to stay well away from the Thai clinch. Still, Franklin is a smart guy, if he comes in with a similar plan to Rampage he will win.
Shogun_12
02-18-2009, 06:32 PM
my heart says wand but my mind says rich. i just hope that in some stroke of luck, wand would be able to lock in that thai clinch and deliver those knees to rich's face. knees that would make the one's threw by anderson look like amateur. pls. wand.
tri-pod
02-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Franklin will take this one by KO
ufoalf
02-18-2009, 08:51 PM
Wanderlei via Murder even at this stage of his career.
jimmie
02-18-2009, 09:57 PM
You know this fight will be fought standing up. Franklin is much much better a striker then Wanderlei so much more crisp and techniqual but hey Wanderlei is a big puncher and can score a KO plus he has a huge advantage in the clinch not that Franklin is bad but he got murdered by Anderson Silva and Wanderleis also very devestating. Franklin should be able to keep Wanderlei at a perfect range and pick him apart and give Silva another brutal KO loss but Wanderlei has a great chance. I kinda wish it wasnt happening another loss could seriously hurt these guys at this point it would make Franklin 0-5 vs the elite guys or Wanderlei would go 1-5 in his last 6.
sugarngold
02-18-2009, 10:34 PM
This is a good match up.I don't know if Franklin has the power to KO wanderlai - but he can certainly keep him at the end of his combinations all night.
This is a crossroads for both guys if Rich loses this one he won't be getting a title shot at any weight any time soon. I thought they would give Wandy a bit of a warmup for his new weight class. This fight doesn't help either guy if it's at a catch weight, it seems Rich is in Limbo between 2 weight classes and now a catchweight?
rusty nails
02-19-2009, 03:00 AM
after what just happened to jardine i think wand will intimidate franklin.. i pick wand by KO.
MMAFIGHTER1
02-19-2009, 03:38 AM
You know this fight will be fought standing up. Franklin is much much better a striker then Wanderlei so much more crisp and techniqual but hey Wanderlei is a big puncher and can score a KO plus he has a huge advantage in the clinch not that Franklin is bad but he got murdered by Anderson Silva and Wanderleis also very devestating. Franklin should be able to keep Wanderlei at a perfect range and pick him apart and give Silva another brutal KO loss but Wanderlei has a great chance. I kinda wish it wasnt happening another loss could seriously hurt these guys at this point it would make Franklin 0-5 vs the elite guys or Wanderlei would go 1-5 in his last 6.
What r u talking about? you do realize that rich has only ever lost 2 3 people.
MMAFIGHTER1
02-19-2009, 03:43 AM
after what just happened to jardine i think wand will intimidate franklin.. i pick wand by KO.
ahh no. i knew that was going to happen 2 keith he buckles under pressure just like houston took him out. but on the other hand rich has great movement and wouldnt stand there and get bumrushed he's gonna use his footwork and circle off not letting wandy set up
rusty nails
02-19-2009, 04:22 AM
ahh no. i knew that was going to happen 2 keith he buckles under pressure just like houston took him out. but on the other hand rich has great movement and wouldnt stand there and get bumrushed he's gonna use his footwork and circle off not letting wandy set up
point being that franklins just been flogged twice on the inside and still carrys a few mental scars.. like you said he wont stand in front of wand but movements not enough.
if you dont go after wand and engage him you wont beat him..
Franklin by decision. Wand is shot.
Grievesy
02-19-2009, 05:41 AM
point being that franklins just been flogged twice on the inside and still carrys a few mental scars.. like you said he wont stand in front of wand but movements not enough.
if you dont go after wand and engage him you wont beat him..
What like Rampage went after him?
MMAFIGHTER1
02-19-2009, 05:43 AM
point being that franklins just been flogged twice on the inside and still carrys a few mental scars.. like you said he wont stand in front of wand but movements not enough.
if you dont go after wand and engage him you wont beat him..
No thats not what i was saying. Effective counterpunching and keeping him off balance not letting wandy set up. so yes movement will be enough
MMAFIGHTER1
02-19-2009, 05:46 AM
What like Rampage went after him?
excatly page didnt go out there wreckless after him he simply used wandys aggression against him and caught him being wild and swinging wide
rusty nails
02-19-2009, 06:07 AM
What like Rampage went after him?
not exactly.
but he did stand his ground and engage him..
i dont think rich will be willing to do that.
Grievesy
02-19-2009, 06:17 AM
not exactly.
but he did stand his ground and engage him..
i dont think rich will be willing to do that.
I think Franklin would. He's not the type of guy to buckle under pressure. He stands up and fights. I haven't ever seen him in a boring fight I think, even against Okami, he just goes for it.
And let's be honest the first round of Wandy-Rampage would go down as boring if it wasn't for the brutal KO.
Like I said Franklin has the ring smarts to avoid those bombs from Wandy and counter effectively. And Wandy's chin is gone tbh. Franklin has more than enough power to KO him. The only thing that may be unknown yet is whether Wandy is faster at the lower weight.
LB3000
02-19-2009, 07:15 AM
Apparently this fight will be the co-main event, with the main event being BJ vs Florian. Also Uno is expected to make his UFC return on this card vs Fisher.
Wilhelm
02-19-2009, 12:35 PM
Wanderlei via Murder even at this stage of his career.
Do you just really dislike Franklin or something? If anyone's chin is suspect nowadays it's Silva's, and he leaves himself open all the time. I give Silva a punchers chance in this, but I think a Franklin UD or KO is much more likely.
demzor
02-19-2009, 01:06 PM
Crocop has said he is fighting on UFC 99 too..
LB3000
02-19-2009, 02:37 PM
Crocop has said he is fighting on UFC 99 too.. Yeah, it is rumoured that he will be fighting Couture. 99 is looking like it will be a good card.
jimmie
02-19-2009, 03:37 PM
What r u talking about? you do realize that rich has only ever lost 2 3 people.
Do the math my man 2 losses to Anderson Silva,1 to Machida and 1 to Henderson that makes 4 losses and a loss to Wanderlei would be 5.
québecwarrior
02-19-2009, 04:25 PM
But you still count Wandy as an elite fighter?
A loss to Wandy, would be very bad for Franklin's career.
jimmie
02-19-2009, 07:21 PM
But you still count Wandy as an elite fighter?
A loss to Wandy, would be very bad for Franklin's career.
Good question my man im not sure what to classify him as now. Hes still a top 10 205 fighter and has a elite resume and a great win over another top guy in Keith Jardine although every fight surrounding that is him getting his ass kicked and laid out.
Beebs
02-20-2009, 02:47 AM
The catch weight says a lot I think, wand has said he wants to go to 185, but Frank Trigg said that he hasn't really done anything to get smaller, and he isn't a particuraly small 205. I read it as Wand not being able to make the jump down to 185, and I don't think he will show up looking very good since he apparantly hasn't really lost any bodyass and will just have to cut more water weight.
MMAFIGHTER1
02-20-2009, 04:03 AM
Do the math my man 2 losses to Anderson Silva,1 to Machida and 1 to Henderson that makes 4 losses and a loss to Wanderlei would be 5.
No that WOULD only be 4 different people. unless you consider anderson 2 people
Rich all day. sadly i think Wandy is finished.
québecwarrior
02-20-2009, 11:39 AM
Good question my man im not sure what to classify him as now. Hes still a top 10 205 fighter and has a elite resume and a great win over another top guy in Keith Jardine although every fight surrounding that is him getting his ass kicked and laid out.
I dont even put him in the top 10 205 myself, I see him as a finished guy. Even Patrick Cote could move up to 205 and KO him. He is shot. It's sad.
Each time he get koed, the next time it will be more easy.
jimmie
02-20-2009, 03:24 PM
I dont even put him in the top 10 205 myself, I see him as a finished guy. Even Patrick Cote could move up to 205 and KO him. He is shot. It's sad.
Each time he get koed, the next time it will be more easy.
He aint shot but he is past it the guy never really had great punch resistance.
jimmie
02-20-2009, 03:25 PM
No that WOULD only be 4 different people. unless you consider anderson 2 people
I said hes 0-4 vs elite fighters and yes I count Anderson Silva twice cause they fought twice unless I was totally hammered the night I ordere that rematch and it really didnt happen.
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