View Full Version : MMA Fighters With Zero Stand Up Skills
Rico Spadafora
02-19-2009, 07:17 PM
who are some fighters in MMA that can't fight on their feet to save their life?
It gets old sometimes watching a guy go after his opponent like a combination of an Octopus and John Ruiz. Some of these guys immediately try and drag the fight to the ground.
Royce Gracie had horrible stand up and was like a worse version of John Ruiz he is probably the most boring fighter I have ever seen in any discipline period.
Thoughts?
jimmie
02-19-2009, 07:18 PM
Jake Rosholt is a guy that comes to mind right way for a UFC/WEC fighter.
Grievesy
02-19-2009, 07:30 PM
Shinya Aoki. Soon as he gets in range he trys to pull guard or grab a leg. Same with Imanari.
Pretty much all the Gracies except Ryan or the crazy fucker who got KTFO by Gomi.
The bunch of new Brazilians in the UFC middleweight division. Maia, Leites, Palhares.
Rani Yahya an Abu Dhabi champion in the 66kg division back in '07 I think, great BJJ fighter but can't stand up against a 12 year old girl.
Beebs
02-20-2009, 01:38 AM
There is really no hope for somebody who equates a guy for a takedown with being as boring as Ruiz.
Maia's striking isn't that bad, straight punches and good head kicks if nothing else.
Vitor Belfort
02-20-2009, 02:40 AM
Renato babalu sobral. Did u see how bad was his stand up vs chuck liddell? He looks like he was in a street fight throwing punches. If this guy wasn't so great at submission he would suck big time
rusty nails
02-20-2009, 03:48 AM
ive never been impressed with sean sherks standup.
but some people will tell you hes the ufc version of james toney..
brandon9624
02-20-2009, 04:07 AM
maricio cruz (did I spell that right?). Embarrassingly bad. Still holds win over Frank Mir, though.
scurlaruntings
02-20-2009, 08:00 AM
maricio cruz (did I spell that right?). Embarrassingly bad. Still holds win over Frank Mir, though.He brutalised Frank Mir. His stand up isnt polished but he made Mir look so ordinary.
québecwarrior
02-20-2009, 08:59 AM
jake shields
doefler182
02-20-2009, 10:40 AM
jake shields
+1
he looked horrible against Daley
SouthpawSlayer
02-20-2009, 11:07 AM
there are bloody loads i could mention
jimmie
02-20-2009, 03:22 PM
He brutalised Frank Mir. His stand up isnt polished but he made Mir look so ordinary.
Well that wasnt the real Frank Mir dude was wobbling on that leg early in that fight 2006 Frank Mir is a totally different dude.
jimmie
02-20-2009, 03:28 PM
Clay Guidas is awful to.
scurlaruntings
02-20-2009, 04:48 PM
Well that wasnt the real Frank Mir dude was wobbling on that leg early in that fight 2006 Frank Mir is a totally different dude.Yeah yeah yeah whatever skippy..
gigogreco
02-20-2009, 05:34 PM
Jake Rosholt is a guy that comes to mind right way for a UFC/WEC fighter.
i cant recall seeing anyone worse then him..
saw his fight on a wec card, against some jj fighter, he was gettting blasted when standing, but the jj guy just lacked a little power and stamina to win..
impressive he won rosholt, but that is by far, the worst ive seen in from any fighter, when talking higher level of mma..
Bill Butcher
02-20-2009, 06:27 PM
who are some fighters in MMA that can't fight on their feet to save their life?
It gets old sometimes watching a guy go after his opponent like a combination of an Octopus and John Ruiz. Some of these guys immediately try and drag the fight to the ground.
Royce Gracie had horrible stand up and was like a worse version of John Ruiz he is probably the most boring fighter I have ever seen in any discipline period.
Thoughts?
If you understand BJJ or submissions then Royce Gracie isnt boring to watch, I think he actually makes the best of his slight frame, he is never gonna be a hard striker even if he started when he was 3, he is not built for striking, thank Royce & his family we have MMA as it is today.
Minotauro
02-20-2009, 07:24 PM
Paulo Filho doesn't have great striking neither does Wallid Ismail.
Rico Spadafora
02-20-2009, 07:49 PM
If you understand BJJ or submissions then Royce Gracie isnt boring to watch, I think he actually makes the best of his slight frame, he is never gonna be a hard striker even if he started when he was 3, he is not built for striking, thank Royce & his family we have MMA as it is today.
I understand BJJ just fine. It does not change the fact that Royce was boring as hell could not strike to save his life and is the MMA version of John Ruiz.
The guy was like an octopus he would latch on and try to take it to the ground without even attempting any stand up. I literally fell asleep during a few of his fights.
ozziebattler
02-20-2009, 08:42 PM
If you understand BJJ or submissions then Royce Gracie isnt boring to watch, I think he actually makes the best of his slight frame, he is never gonna be a hard striker even if he started when he was 3, he is not built for striking, thank Royce & his family we have MMA as it is today.
He aint built for striking??
There are a million skinny or not so built guys who can punch very hard..
Watch abit of boxing from the past 100years and u will witness it.
Beebs
02-21-2009, 03:01 AM
I understand BJJ just fine. It does not change the fact that Royce was boring as hell could not strike to save his life and is the MMA version of John Ruiz.
The guy was like an octopus he would latch on and try to take it to the ground without even attempting any stand up. I literally fell asleep during a few of his fights.
Why would he "attempt a little standup"?
The fact that Royce didn't need any striking says more about the value of striking and the mentality of people like you than it does about Royce.
Which fights of Roycea were boring? Almost all of his early fights ended fairly quickly and with a submission; the only boring one really was Shamrock 2, which was really only boring because Ken knew there was a time limit and fought for the draw.
Tuffnutz
02-21-2009, 03:19 AM
Akebono.
Giant Silva.
Matt Hughes. :lol:
Paulo Filho doesn't have great striking neither does Wallid Ismail.
Yea but Ismail hasn't fought in like 8 or 9 years. He was fighting in a period where stand-up was just starting to evolve, plus he holds victories over Royce, Renzo , Ryan and another one of those Gracies in straight BJJ tournament matches under Gracie rules. So I like the guy, hahaha.
Royce getting choked out cold!
PZ_Je0nUgCo
Beebs
02-24-2009, 09:34 PM
Not only did Wallid not have standup, he didn't have anywhere near as good of a guard as the rest of his game.
Pretty amazing, he did all he did with basically just a world class top game.
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