View Full Version : Presscot is s**!!!!
faisal
02-20-2009, 10:40 PM
Like i said hes nothing more then a club fighter right now i'm see his arse being chased all over the ring by a featherweight bum
khans glass jaw is something out of this world
BadJuju83
02-20-2009, 10:42 PM
What the fuck fight are you watching. Prescott is dominating.
It shows how bad Khan's chin is tho, coz this guy was supposed to be chinny. Oh dear.
faisal
02-20-2009, 10:48 PM
look at this guy hes finished after this bout
BadJuju83
02-20-2009, 10:53 PM
who's finished?
faisal
02-20-2009, 11:04 PM
amir khan
BadJuju83
02-20-2009, 11:06 PM
Eh?
Because Prescott hasnt Ko'd someone, Khan's career is over?
BadJuju83
02-20-2009, 11:09 PM
:rofl
He's fuckin bit him.
faisal
02-20-2009, 11:10 PM
go to bed u idiot
Healy
02-20-2009, 11:10 PM
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BadJuju83
02-20-2009, 11:14 PM
go to bed u idiot
I'm the idiot.
Prescott dominates a fight and you start a thread calling him a clubfighter after the 2nd round.
Then Khans career is finished because Prescott doesnt KO some guy.
:nut
Betty Swollocks
02-21-2009, 02:47 AM
I never bought into this bollocks about Prescott being good and a puncher just because he banjoed Khan. He is a clubfighter. Khan's chin is just ridiculously bad.
Bad_Intentions
02-21-2009, 02:56 AM
either khan has the weakest chin in boxing, or he was drugged...
because this prescott guy CAN'T PUNCH FOR SHIT.
donizhere
02-21-2009, 02:57 AM
Boxers can go 12 rounds with a Big puncher and not get KO'd
Why do you think so many KO's have happened in the 10th and 11th rounds just with 1 clean punch...
Fact is you can avoid getting hit real flush if your good..
donizhere
02-21-2009, 02:58 AM
Fighters went the distance with a Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis
Are you going to say Mike tyson and Lennox can't punch for shit??
rumour24tiger
02-21-2009, 04:18 AM
It does look like Prescott didn't do as well as the Peterson guy and Humberto Soto. They both really beat Toledo up.
What the fuck fight are you watching. Prescott is dominating.
It shows how bad Khan's chin is tho, coz this guy was supposed to be chinny. Oh dear.
bad ju you have to rember faisel is a Khan fan,he moderated amirsfans website.He hates what he did to his precious khan.hes a nut hugger
BadJuju83
02-21-2009, 04:46 AM
It does look like Prescott didn't do as well as the Peterson guy and Humberto Soto. They both really beat Toledo up.
Toledo was stopped after being dropped twice with bodyshots from Peterson, not his chin.
Soto was smacking him all round the place though.
It's obvious Prescott isnt the reincarnation of Julian Jackson as Khan's team would like us to believe, but he's got some pop, thats obvious.
BadJuju83
02-21-2009, 04:48 AM
I never bought into this bollocks about Prescott being good and a puncher just because he banjoed Khan. He is a clubfighter. Khan's chin is just ridiculously bad.
He fought well last night against a dirty little fucker who was trying everything, headbuts, knees the lot. He didnt mix it up enough but he was still impressive in places.
He is no clubfighter, thats bull. Have to wait till he's in with someone who can last longer than a minute and someone who wasnt butting,biting and kneeing all night to properly judge him.
bad ju you have to rember faisel is a Khan fan,he moderated amirsfans website.He hates what he did to his precious khan.hes a nut hugger
I thought faisal was a Khan hater :huh
achillesthegreat
02-21-2009, 06:25 AM
i thought prescott won every round and kd the guy in the 10th. cant be bad?
faisal
02-21-2009, 07:23 AM
bad ju you have to rember faisel is a Khan fan,he moderated amirsfans website.He hates what he did to his precious khan.hes a nut hugger
:patsch
I thought faisal was a Khan hater :huh
he's a former khan fan. gone from one extreme to another.
he's a former khan fan. gone from one extreme to another.
Didn't know that :good.
faisal
02-21-2009, 07:30 AM
if allot of u read the first post i was pritty much suprised at how he had trouble taking out a fighter who had lost 5 fights all by KO and operated at sfw, in light of all this it really shows how bad khans punch resistance is, hes not the banger people were saying he was and the fight shows how concerning khans chin is
Decebal
02-21-2009, 07:32 AM
Prescott is doing pretty well given the number of fights under his belt.
faisal
02-21-2009, 07:41 AM
I'm the idiot.
Prescott dominates a fight and you start a thread calling him a clubfighter after the 2nd round.
Then Khans career is finished because Prescott doesnt KO some guy.
:nut
presscot was supposed to make easy work of this dude, people were expecting a first round ko but the fight dragged for 10 rounds, he outpointed a fighter that doesnt have the best chin in the world over the last couple of months many have been over-rating his power the fight just shows how bad khan is
BadJuju83
02-21-2009, 07:50 AM
presscot was supposed to make easy work of this dude, people were expecting a first round ko but the fight dragged for 10 rounds, he outpointed a fighter that doesnt have the best chin in the world over the last couple of months many have been over-rating his power the fight just shows how bad khan is
I get that, i was responding to you calling him a clubfighter, and that Khan's career was over because Prescott didnt blow this guy away. That's all.
He isnt the murderous puncher team Khan wanted everyone to believe, and the fact he didnt put away a guy that Soto was bouncing of the canvas does highlight Khan's weakness even further.
Harsh to say the fight dragged for 10 rounds though, Prescott dominated it from start to finish, got a knockdown, and forced the fella into a DQ. I thought he looked good in spells, considering what a dirty,spoiling,cheating little fuckwit his opponent was.
Decebal
02-21-2009, 07:52 AM
Power...power...power....just because you got it doesn't mean you got to use it every time. It's good that Prescott can outbox guys too. It's important for him to get rounds under his belt too, if he's to improve. No biggie.:good
Decebal
02-21-2009, 07:54 AM
He isnt the murderous puncher team Khan wanted everyone to believe, and the fact he didnt put away a guy that Soto was bouncing of the canvas does highlight Khan's weakness even further.
He doesn't HAVE to be a murderous puncher to make it, though. As long as his power is world class, which it probably is, if he wants to use it, it's good enough. There are other aspects that are important in making it...chin, boxing skills, etc. It's not the end of the world he's no one-punch KO.
It doesn't look good for Khan, does it? This guy was a whipping boy for the prospect Lamont Peterson. Bashed all over the place by Soto. Now we have Prescott, who is supposed to have built himself a reputation as a big puncher...and he lasts the distance.
This reaffirms the belief Khan may have one of the worst chins in the history of boxing for a talented fighter.
MIK1000
02-21-2009, 07:59 AM
what channel was this on or did u guys get it on a live stream?
BadJuju83
02-21-2009, 08:06 AM
what channel was this on or did u guys get it on a live stream?
Stream
BadJuju83
02-21-2009, 08:12 AM
It doesn't look good for Khan, does it? This guy was a whipping boy for the prospect Lamont Peterson. Bashed all over the place by Soto. Now we have Prescott, who is supposed to have built himself a reputation as a big puncher...and he lasts the distance.
This reaffirms the belief Khan may have one of the worst chins in the history of boxing for a talented fighter.
Peterson dropped him with 2 body shots.
BadJuju83
02-21-2009, 08:15 AM
He doesn't HAVE to be a murderous puncher to make it, though. As long as his power is world class, which it probably is, if he wants to use it, it's good enough. There are other aspects that are important in making it...chin, boxing skills, etc. It's not the end of the world he's no one-punch KO.
I agree. He's got obvious pop and i was glad the guy didnt just get blown away.
It just isnt "the hardest puncher in the LW division" type stuff that Team Khan claimed after it. Thats what i was refering to.
So? There is nothing to stop Prescott going to the body. Soto hammered him at super feather too. What's the excuse for that one? This Toledo guy has fought cans up until lately, and when he stepped it up he got his ass beaten up both times. For a big lightweight like Prescott, one that is supposed to be a big puncher...this really should have equated to a KO. It's not like he didn't connect.
It looks worse and worse by the day for Khan. Looking back at the Abril fight where Prescott looked crude and unrefined. Now his power is not quite so impressive either.
BadJuju83
02-21-2009, 08:27 AM
So? There is nothing to stop Prescott going to the body. Soto hammered him at super feather too. What's the excuse for that one? This Toledo guy has fought cans up until lately, and when he stepped it up he got his ass beaten up both times. For a big lightweight like Prescott, one that is supposed to be a big puncher...this really should have equated to a KO. It's not like he didn't connect.
It looks worse and worse by the day for Khan. Looking back at the Abril fight where Prescott looked crude and unrefined. Now his power is not quite so impressive either.
FFs, i was just saying it was 2 bodyshots that did for him against Lamont, wasnt making excuses for him.
I said earlier in the thread that Prescott didnt mix it up enough, he hardly went to the body at all, and he should have.
SouthpawSlayer
02-21-2009, 08:42 AM
really worrying for khan, the 2 times not including khan where prescott has fought above the usual level of colombian taxi drivers he has failed to ko his opponent, last night he landed flush quite a few times, prescott is going nowhere in this division, NOWHERE
D-MAC
02-21-2009, 08:45 AM
Also bear in mind that Prescott buckled Khan badly with his jab, even before he started unloading the power shots.
Healy
02-21-2009, 09:30 AM
Prescott is to Khan what Martinez is to Dunne
Decebal
02-21-2009, 09:42 AM
Also bear in mind that Prescott buckled Khan badly with his jab, even before he started unloading the power shots.
I haven't seen Prescott's last fight, but against Khan, he went in looking to get him out of there asap, so he went looking for huge powershots. Obviously, Khan has a bad chin, but that doesn't mean Prescott doesn't have very good power IF he's prepared to take a bit of a gamble and go for it, like he did against Khan. Do you agree?
As to how good Prescott is, I don't see how the fact that he won his last fight convincingly by outpointing his opponent round after round makes him a bad fighter. Right?
How good he is...another question, sure.:good
D-MAC
02-21-2009, 09:51 AM
I haven't seen Prescott's last fight, but against Khan, he went in looking to get him out of there asap, so he went looking for huge powershots. Obviously, Khan has a bad chin, but that doesn't mean Prescott doesn't have very good power IF he's prepared to take a bit of a gamble and go for it, like he did against Khan. Do you agree?
As to how good Prescott is, I don't see how the fact that he won his last fight convincingly by outpointing his opponent round after round makes him a bad fighter. Right?
How good he is...another question, sure.:good
Good points Dec.
I just think there's (a) getting caught cold with the opponent charging after you with all guns blazing, and (b) doing a silly jig after getting hit by the jab (ie: not a proper power shot).
I just think it is very worrying that the jab should have such an impact on him, even if it is early on in the contest.
In regards to Prescott; I'll wait and see. Haven't made up my mind about him yet.
Decebal
02-21-2009, 09:56 AM
Good points Dec.
I just think there's (a) getting caught cold with the opponent charging after you with all guns blazing, and (b) doing a silly jig after getting hit by the jab (ie: not a proper power shot).
I just think it is very worrying that the jab should have such an impact on him, even if it is early on in the contest.
In regards to Prescott; I'll wait and see. Haven't made up my mind about him yet.
We all know Khan's chin is fairly bad. We've known that for a while before Prescott got to him. Not sure why people go on about Prescott's power vis-a-vis how bad Khan's chin is. That's the only point I was making.
GazOC
02-21-2009, 09:57 AM
Yep, good point Dece. Prescott might well have made a concious decision to try and jump on Khan early because of the known chin issues.
D-MAC
02-21-2009, 09:58 AM
We all know Khan's chin is fairly bad. We've known that for a while before Prescott got to him. Not sure why people go on about Prescott's power vis-a-vis how bad Khan's chin is. That's the only point I was making.
Fair point:good
Decebal
02-21-2009, 09:59 AM
Yep, good point Dece. Prescott might well have made a concious decision to try and jump on Khan early because of the known chin issues.
It sure looked like that to me! This was his chance to make a big statement and he went all out. Makes sense. :good
BoxingFanNo1
02-21-2009, 10:12 AM
He is not a club fighter, you are wrong.
End of.
Tuffnutz
02-21-2009, 10:45 AM
Prescott is a world class fighter but he's not the best or unbeatable.
I can'tt see khan ever beating him tbh.
He may last longer in a rematch but he'd still get KTFO.
I was actually impressed with some of Prescotts move's the other night.
He's not just a banger.
He has flaws but he showed some pretty slick moves last night imo.
onourway
02-21-2009, 10:48 AM
If any other LW leaves their chin exposed like Khan did, then they'll get knocked out. Prescott caught Khan flush and I mean flush. I have no doubts if he hits anybody else that flush they'll go down.
Khan has worries over his chin, but mainly over the lack of defence he provides for that chin.
Pug1list
02-21-2009, 10:49 AM
Def not a club fighter, i think Khan can beat him if he stays on the outside, and doesn't come in like blind mule.
GazOC
02-21-2009, 10:51 AM
I think his defense is poor and his chin is even worse. Gomez fucked him up with a cuffing blow out of a clinch and Prescott had him wobbled with a jab. Both were punches that a boxer should be able to take if need be.
His chin is more of a worry than his defence, by far.
Defence can be improved.
But it can never be improved to the extent you will not be hit by world class fighters. Not unless you have talent like Whitaker. And he hasn't even fought a world class fighter yet.
faisal
02-21-2009, 10:53 AM
His power is average at best but its good enough to expose frauds like khan
onourway
02-21-2009, 10:58 AM
His chin is more of a worry than his defence, by far.
Defence can be improved.
But it can never be improved to the extent you will not be hit by world class fighters. Not unless you have talent like Whitaker. And he hasn't even fought a world class fighter yet.
His defence comes before his chin though.
The punches are landing, because of his poor defence, which then exposes his chin.
We've seen he can be put down by lightish punches, but if he continues to let people unload on his chin, then he'll be KO'd. There are only a handful of fighters who can let people land haymakers on their chin.
Everything about Khan is just wrong when it comes to taking a punch. His defence is open, his body is tense, his legs are skinny, he has no head movement and he tries to fight fire with fire after being hit. None of these things are really to do with chin, they all stem from training/technical flaws.
Tuffnutz
02-21-2009, 11:03 AM
If any other LW leaves their chin exposed like Khan did, then they'll get knocked out. Prescott caught Khan flush and I mean flush. I have no doubts if he hits anybody else that flush they'll go down.
Khan has worries over his chin, but mainly over the lack of defence he provides for that chin.
Prescott hit Toledo flush many time's last night to the heads and body.
Also back to Khan, look at his fight with Limond.
Limond was so unlucky that he did'nt KO Khan.
Khan is'nt a big puncher either. He has to land loads of shots and break people down, and even then people have complained about premature stoppages.
If he was like Haye then it would be a different story.
People question Hayes punch resitance but Haye's got The Haymakers and can finish a fight at anytime. Where as Khan can't.
With Khan's chin you'd expect him to hit like Tommy Hearns. :lol:
His defence comes before his chin though.
The punches are landing, because of his poor defence, which then exposes his chin.
We've seen he can be put down by lightish punches, but if he continues to let people unload on his chin, then he'll be KO'd. There are only a handful of fighters who can let people land haymakers on their chin.
Everything about Khan is just wrong when it comes to taking a punch. His defence is open, his body is tense, his legs are skinny, he has no head movement and he tries to fight fire with fire after being hit. None of these things are really to do with chin, they all stem from training/technical flaws.
It doesn't though, not really.
It's about levels. His defence is coming from such a poor state, it is impossible to get it to the level which is going to protect such a chin. Impossible. He would already need excepional defensive talent, reflexes and head movement.
Even if it was outstanding it is the height of optimism to expect you are not going to be touched by world class fighters. We see it every fight, even the best get hit.
The problem is the levels. His defence is like 2/10, particularly inside. His chin is a ZERO.
If his chin was reasonable, not great but reasonable, he could hope for his other talents to get him out of jail. His chin will always be the single biggest problem.
GazOC
02-21-2009, 11:06 AM
His defence comes before his chin though.
The punches are landing, because of his poor defence, which then exposes his chin.
We've seen he can be put down by lightish punches, but if he continues to let people unload on his chin, then he'll be KO'd. There are only a handful of fighters who can let people land haymakers on their chin.
Everything about Khan is just wrong when it comes to taking a punch. His defence is open, his body is tense, his legs are skinny, he has no head movement and he tries to fight fire with fire after being hit. None of these things are really to do with chin, they all stem from training/technical flaws.
I suppose it depends on how you look at it. No matter how good his defence becomes he's not going to get through a pro career without taking a hard jab or a hook in a clinch, both of which have had him in trouble but on the other hand he can't improve his chin but he can at least improve his defence.
I just don't think any improvements he can make in his defence can make up for a chin that bad.....
D-MAC
02-21-2009, 11:09 AM
As a bit of an aside here is Humberto Soto beating lumps out of Prescott's opponent Mr. Toledo (I don't care much for the music though):
fHRskUNaxlE
Pug1list
02-21-2009, 11:11 AM
Not an exact science is it, a vs b, b vs c, c vs a doesn't work well in boxing, more suited to horse racing.
yesihavearm2
02-21-2009, 12:11 PM
Decebal what huge power shots are you talking about ? You mean that initial jab that had him doing the chicken dance ?
timber
02-21-2009, 01:38 PM
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faisal
02-21-2009, 02:00 PM
theres something ammaturish about presscot, he doesnt move around the ring but he runs to get out of range, and hes very open any one with any kind of inside game has his number i wasnt impressed with what i saw last night i dont hate presscot i just dont think hes the Monster puncher many of us were led to belive, if he was he would have put taledo away with the first burst of shots in the openning round. Taledo's had a suspect chin coming into the fight all this fight did was confirm the shitness of amirs punch resistance.
Decebal
02-21-2009, 02:03 PM
Decebal what huge power shots are you talking about ? You mean that initial jab that had him doing the chicken dance ?
It looked to me like Prescott was trying to get him out of there pretty quickly.
faisal
02-21-2009, 02:04 PM
before i had murray loosing to presscot now i think murray would smash right through him if he keeps the fight on the inside
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