View Full Version : If Cotto beats Mosley....
jlrivera81
08-19-2007, 12:50 AM
will haters finally stop...
1)doubting his skills
2)saying he has a weak chin
3)thinking fast fighters will be too much for him
4)thinking he is a one dimensional fighter
5)bringing up the corley and torres fight
i ask this b/c these are all the knocks that Cotto gets. i can understand the people that are saying it will be a tough fight b/c they give valid reasons. but you would think that people would stop saying the same things when every fight Cotto is in, he constantly proves people wrong.
aillmatic
08-19-2007, 12:57 AM
yup... I'm not a hater. I love watching Cotto fight, and beating Shane should definitely prove he is a top 10 p4p fighter.
BobDigi5060
08-19-2007, 12:58 AM
One, two, and five may follow him till the end of his career. It wouldn't matter.. That Sugar Shane victory would mean everything in the world
4Rounder
08-19-2007, 12:58 AM
Yep, if he beats Mosley then he goes to the top 10 p4p list, and really is an elite fighter.
Cotto isn't one-dimensional, he is a better boxer than Trinidad IMO.
brick city
08-19-2007, 01:09 AM
Not going to happen.
brooklyn1550
08-19-2007, 01:11 AM
Yes, if he beats Mosley in impressive fashion, then he will have entered superstardom and a spot among the P4P elite
jlrivera81
08-19-2007, 01:15 AM
What I dont get is why isnt PBF bashed so much when got rocked just as badly against Corley also. no body ever talks junk about that. they seem to conveniently forget that fact.
Napoleon
08-19-2007, 01:15 AM
will haters finally stop...
1)doubting his skills
2)saying he has a weak chin
3)thinking fast fighters will be too much for him
4)thinking he is a one dimensional fighter
5)bringing up the corley and torres fight
i ask this b/c these are all the knocks that Cotto gets. i can understand the people that are saying it will be a tough fight b/c they give valid reasons. but you would think that people would stop saying the same things when every fight Cotto is in, he constantly proves people wrong.
Why make a thread saying "If Cotto?" Chances are its not going to happen.
jlrivera81
08-19-2007, 01:18 AM
Why make a thread saying "If Cotto?" Chances are its not going to happen.
that's just your opinion. i actually wanted to name the forum...
"when cotto beats mosley...", but i didnt want to come off biased as a Cotto fan b/c although he is my favorite fighter, i'll be the first to admit that this is his toughest fight. but i do believe he will win either 9 rounds to 3 or 8 rounds to 4
Word2ThaFive
08-19-2007, 01:23 AM
He makes top 10, i'd put him at 7 if he beat mosley
i jus think he would need more domination in different weight classes
to be a high contender on p4p.
btw i dont see cotto beatin mosley.
BobDigi5060
08-19-2007, 01:31 AM
What I dont get is why isnt PBF bashed so much when got rocked just as badly against Corley also. no body ever talks junk about that. they seem to conveniently forget that fact.
Because Floyd wasn't hurt as bad nor ever officialy knocked down. We've seen Cotto on the brink of a loss and Floyd hasn't really been halfway there. Watching Cotto come so close to defeat only to win in stunning fashion touches us inside and stirs the soul. It automatically brings an aura of no doubt and fear about this man. Floyd doesn't appeal to me in that way; not that its a bad thing in any way, but he is just a whole other fighter who doesn't take risk that would allow him to be in such dangerous situations.
I see the Cotto/Mosley fight as a tossup but deep down I don't want to see Sugar Shane win. I have a lot of respect for Cotto's fight game and will be a nervous Sugar Shane supporter come fight night.
The most important thing about fighting Cotto IMO is not to let this man back into the fight. Don't let him build any momentum. I can honestly say that I wouldn't be surprised if Cotto picks himself off the canvas to put Sugar Shane down himself.
cpnasty
08-19-2007, 01:36 AM
If he beats Mosley, people will say he beat a 36 year old man
JMonster
08-19-2007, 01:39 AM
no...all they're going to say is that mosely is washed up and this n that...once somebody is hated on...they will be hated on for probably their whole career
bb251
08-19-2007, 02:23 AM
shane wins
jlrivera81
08-19-2007, 03:01 AM
Because Floyd wasn't hurt as bad nor ever officialy knocked down. We've seen Cotto on the brink of a loss and Floyd hasn't really been halfway there. Watching Cotto come so close to defeat only to win in stunning fashion touches us inside and stirs the soul. It automatically brings an aura of no doubt and fear about this man. Floyd doesn't appeal to me in that way; not that its a bad thing in any way, but he is just a whole other fighter who doesn't take risk that would allow him to be in such dangerous situations.
I see the Cotto/Mosley fight as a tossup but deep down I don't want to see Sugar Shane win. I have a lot of respect for Cotto's fight game and will be a nervous Sugar Shane supporter come fight night.
The most important thing about fighting Cotto IMO is not to let this man back into the fight. Don't let him build any momentum. I can honestly say that I wouldn't be surprised if Cotto picks himself off the canvas to put Sugar Shane down himself.
good post.
a lot of people are talking about Cotto gettin better pound 4 pound recognition. i really dont care about that. i just want to know if he will stop getting hated on so much.
Lacyace
08-19-2007, 03:51 AM
will haters finally stop...
Nope. If it's not one thing, it's another.
Grabonator
08-19-2007, 05:13 AM
Why make a thread saying "If Cotto?" Chances are its not going to happen.
The chances that Cotto wins the fight are at least 50/50, make no mistake about it!!
RafaelGonzal
08-19-2007, 09:25 AM
I think Collazo would have beat Mosely if not for the injury, I feel this is The toughest test for Cotto but I feel he is ready. This is his moment can he make it happen. He has proven to me that he is a special fighter. Mosely is getting old......... we shall see. Perfect oppurtunity for Cotto.....
the_truth
08-19-2007, 06:57 PM
Because Floyd wasn't hurt as bad nor ever officialy knocked down. We've seen Cotto on the brink of a loss and Floyd hasn't really been halfway there. Watching Cotto come so close to defeat only to win in stunning fashion touches us inside and stirs the soul. It automatically brings an aura of no doubt and fear about this man. Floyd doesn't appeal to me in that way; not that its a bad thing in any way, but he is just a whole other fighter who doesn't take risk that would allow him to be in such dangerous situations.
I see the Cotto/Mosley fight as a tossup but deep down I don't want to see Sugar Shane win. I have a lot of respect for Cotto's fight game and will be a nervous Sugar Shane supporter come fight night.
The most important thing about fighting Cotto IMO is not to let this man back into the fight. Don't let him build any momentum. I can honestly say that I wouldn't be surprised if Cotto picks himself off the canvas to put Sugar Shane down himself.
what people keep on forgetting, cotto has only been fighting for a few years compare to many other active fighters, for his first 30 fights he has fought legitimate fighters which we could compare to anyone right now, controversy is good, it just shows u have some talent, and cotto has talent, win or lose againts shane I know he will gain more fans, and as for mayweather he has had his moments esp. winning a real controversial decision against the first castillo fight, so lets not forget that one...
platnumpapi
08-19-2007, 07:01 PM
i stoped all that after he beat judah, i dont think he will be shane.i sayed the same thing about judah but shane is a different fighter all around.cotto got my respect all day every day/
will haters finally stop...
1)doubting his skills
2)saying he has a weak chin
3)thinking fast fighters will be too much for him
4)thinking he is a one dimensional fighter
5)bringing up the corley and torres fight
i ask this b/c these are all the knocks that Cotto gets. i can understand the people that are saying it will be a tough fight b/c they give valid reasons. but you would think that people would stop saying the same things when every fight Cotto is in, he constantly proves people wrong.
stevexx28
08-19-2007, 08:50 PM
yea theyll prob respect him more, but his weak chin will still be there, i believe it is no longer suspect, it is officially glass. Still he does have heart and recvery abilities.
Relentless
08-19-2007, 09:21 PM
yea theyll prob respect him more, but his weak chin will still be there, i believe it is no longer suspect, it is officially glass. Still he does have heart and recvery abilities.
what makes you say that?
it used to be suspect and now its glass?
:huh
dave82
08-19-2007, 09:56 PM
If Cotto defeats Mosley he will get nothing but praise from me. I rate Mosley and he is one of the most talented boxers out there today. I will have Cotto in the top 5 p4p.
pipe wrenched
08-19-2007, 09:59 PM
IMO, I feel Cotto is going to win this one. And apart from popular opinion on ESB (shane) I feel cotto has the best chance to beat PBF.
Druid
08-20-2007, 01:06 PM
yea theyll prob respect him more, but his weak chin will still be there, i believe it is no longer suspect, it is officially glass. Still he does have heart and recvery abilities.
That is just rubbish!
Caper
08-20-2007, 01:11 PM
yea theyll prob respect him more, but his weak chin will still be there, i believe it is no longer suspect, it is officially glass. Still he does have heart and recvery abilities.
Tell'em boy Cotto's been KO'd and floored at least a dozen times by lesser fighters, this time its over.
I'll be back...its time for my medication :p
Slicknick56
08-20-2007, 01:12 PM
u cant discuss cotto with haters. he was rocked by corley just like mayeathe was, and mayweather was rocked twice by corley actually.
but hey, they always forget that.
TroubleLurks
08-20-2007, 01:18 PM
I think Collazo would have beat Mosely if not for the injury, I feel this is The toughest test for Cotto but I feel he is ready. This is his moment can he make it happen. He has proven to me that he is a special fighter. Mosely is getting old......... we shall see. Perfect oppurtunity for Cotto.....:lol: Yeah, that hand injury kept him from winning. It hade nothing to do with Shane taking a few rounds to figure out a slick southpaw's timing.:patsch Mosley would have whipped his ass either way.
Caper
08-20-2007, 01:19 PM
:cannabis
:yep
TroubleLurks
08-20-2007, 01:20 PM
"IF" Cotto wins he will get tons of praise. Although I have little to no doubt Mosley will win this fight.
Alo2006
08-20-2007, 01:23 PM
Yes, if he beats Mosley in impressive fashion, then he will have entered superstardom and a spot among the P4P elite
I agree, but Mosley is on a mission. He has more to lose than Cotto, and he will come in this fight knowing that. Cotto first lost will happen.
Caper
08-20-2007, 01:25 PM
:lol: Yeah, that hand injury kept him from winning. It hade nothing to do with Shane taking a few rounds to figure out a slick southpaw's timing.:patsch Mosley would have whipped his ass either way.
I saw Collazo at club "Plum" downtown Manhattan a couple weeks after the fight and his hand was still fucked....I still think Mosely would have one though, Collazo's cocky attitude hurts him in the ring. He takes to many breaks and never pushes the envelope. He's a cool as cat outside the ring though eveytime I see him in the club he's always willing to talk boxing. One time he spilled my Henny with his animated talk and their was an erie pause in the action he looked at my reaction and sized me up and I remembered this a pro fighter and I quickly laughed it off. Strange moment....kodak infact.
Caper
08-20-2007, 01:26 PM
I agree, but Mosley is on a mission. He has more to lose than Cotto, and he will come in this fight knowing that. Cotto first lost will happen.
:lol:
What's the deal with the "Hypno" backround, that's a classic ghetto pic if I ever saw one.
Alo2006
08-20-2007, 01:32 PM
:lol:
What's the deal with the "Hypno" backround, that's a classic ghetto pic if I ever saw one.
:lol: Yeah it is. The pic was taken at club Dream in D.C
PR Boxing Lore
08-20-2007, 01:33 PM
yea theyll prob respect him more, but his weak chin will still be there, i believe it is no longer suspect, it is officially glass. Still he does have heart and recvery abilities.
Officially glass,what the hell?
chilost
08-20-2007, 02:07 PM
to me PBF aint shit, i look at him as "THE BLACK CAMACHO"
I'm puerto rican and i love fighters from my little island. but if u ask the island their opion of Camacho, you would know.
Camacho had all the talent in the world to be as dominating as he wanted to, but that one fight with rosario made him into a scary BIATCH. same thing goes for PBF, he has all the talent but that one fight with Castillo made him into a RUNNIN SCARY BIATCH. PBF was willing to trade and fight b4 castillo, after him, PBF doesnt want to feel that PAIN again.
PBF = CAMACHO:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol:
Imperial1
08-20-2007, 02:32 PM
to me PBF aint shit, i look at him as "THE BLACK CAMACHO"
I'm puerto rican and i love fighters from my little island. but if u ask the island their opion of Camacho, you would know.
Camacho had all the talent in the world to be as dominating as he wanted to, but that one fight with rosario made him into a scary BIATCH. same thing goes for PBF, he has all the talent but that one fight with Castillo made him into a RUNNIN SCARY BIATCH. PBF was willing to trade and fight b4 castillo, after him, PBF doesnt want to feel that PAIN again.
PBF = CAMACHO:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your comparing Comacho to Mayweather ?? Have you seen their shorts ?
Chin chilla vs low cut I don't see how anyone can compare the two :rofl
thewoo
08-20-2007, 02:40 PM
My experience on ESB leads me to beleive that people will say that Mosley was old and shot.
Not a Cotto hater and i was really impressed by the way he fought againts Judah but i think SSM is one step on top of him. If Margarito had won againts PW, it would have made the perfect test before taking on Shane. I hope i am wrong but hes not ready for mosley yet. But if he beats him, he will diserve to be ranked in the P4P top 5.
chilost
08-20-2007, 02:47 PM
Your comparing Comacho to Mayweather ?? Have you seen their shorts ?
Chin chilla vs low cut I don't see how anyone can compare the two :rofl
im comparing fight styles dumb fuk, i just comapring their fight styles . what da fuk does shorts has to do with it? :patsch
Caper
08-20-2007, 03:19 PM
im comparing fight styles dumb fuk, i just comapring their fight styles . what da fuk does shorts has to do with it? :patsch
They both have a tendancy of being a bit metrosexual but I have no problem with that.....I shave my chocolate treasure from time to time, it makes me feel clean and always ready for action.:p
achillesthegreat
08-20-2007, 03:36 PM
When Cotto beats Mosley he will break the top 10 P4P and be in line for another MAJOR bout!
jlrivera81
08-20-2007, 04:27 PM
Not a Cotto hater and i was really impressed by the way he fought againts Judah but i think SSM is one step on top of him. If Margarito had won againts PW, it would have made the perfect test before taking on Shane. I hope i am wrong but hes not ready for mosley yet. But if he beats him, he will diserve to be ranked in the P4P top 5.
Quik, no disrespect, but how the hell does fighting Margarito make a great test for Cotto before fighting Shane. They are not the same types of fighters. Margarito is to slow both with his hands and feet. He has overrated power, and an ok defense. The only thing Cotto would have gotten out of beating margarito would be that he fought a mentally tough fighter. As far as preparing him for speed and power, Zab was adequate in that area. And based on what people are saying, they think that will be the biggest advantage Shane has along side of experience. Again, I dont think that fighting Margarito would have prepared Cotto more or less for a shane fight.
MacManJr.
08-20-2007, 04:29 PM
shane winsThat's what I was thinking. I like Cotto and Shane though.
Boricua - TLH
08-20-2007, 04:30 PM
Quik, no disrespect, but how the hell does fighting Margarito make a great test for Cotto before fighting Shane. They are not the same types of fighters. Margarito is to slow both with his hands and feet. He has overrated power, and an ok defense. The only thing Cotto would have gotten out of beating margarito would be that he fought a mentally tough fighter. As far as preparing him for speed and power, Zab was adequate in that area. And based on what people are saying, they think that will be the biggest advantage Shane has along side of experience. Again, I dont think that fighting Margarito would have prepared Cotto more or less for a shane fight.
You forgot to mention that Margo is just a warm-up fight for Cotto... If he couldn't handle Williams, just imagine what Cotto would have done to him... Good that Margo lost. He would have suffered a beating that he would've never been able to come back from...
MacManJr.
08-20-2007, 04:31 PM
Quik, no disrespect, but how the hell does fighting Margarito make a great test for Cotto before fighting Shane. They are not the same types of fighters. Margarito is to slow both with his hands and feet. He has overrated power, and an ok defense. The only thing Cotto would have gotten out of beating margarito would be that he fought a mentally tough fighter. As far as preparing him for speed and power, Zab was adequate in that area. And based on what people are saying, they think that will be the biggest advantage Shane has along side of experience. Again, I dont think that fighting Margarito would have prepared Cotto more or less for a shane fight.I agree with you 100% but I still would've loved to see Cotto punish Margarito. lol
the_what
08-20-2007, 04:51 PM
Nope. They will say that Mosley is old, shot, etc.
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