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The Fight Doctor
08-19-2007, 02:07 AM
Given that Tua has become an active heavyweight again, has improved his conditioning, and has been ranked #13 by the WBC, it seems that a showdown with Samuel Peter is inevitable.

Personally, I think it would be a great match-up, perhaps one of the best that can be made at heavyweight right now.

Who do you guys think would win?

Executioner
08-19-2007, 02:08 AM
Easy fight for Peter

Zakman
08-19-2007, 02:13 AM
Now? Peter wins almost every round. Tua might shake him like Wlad did, but even that's doubtful with his abysmal level of activity. Peter by wide UD

bb251
08-19-2007, 02:17 AM
peter by ud

cpnasty
08-19-2007, 02:23 AM
Peter would spank him

Scar
08-19-2007, 02:38 AM
Peter by UD.

PATSYS
08-19-2007, 02:44 AM
:lol: :lol: You guys are misled by Tua's recent opposition.

Peter, as highly ranked as he is now, is tailor-made for Tua. The difference is that Tua hits harder, higher workrate and has better chin.

Tua KOs Peter, I hope this fight happens very soon.

bb251
08-19-2007, 02:49 AM
:lol: :lol: You guys are misled by Tua's recent opposition.

Peter, as highly ranked as he is now, is tailor-made for Tua. The difference is that Tua hits harder, higher workrate and has better chin.

Tua KOs Peter, I hope this fight happens very soon.

He doesn't have a higher workrate then Peter... I'd agree with the chin and power though...

TamaTonga
08-19-2007, 02:49 AM
if this fight happen,tua will ko peter,peter stand infront of tua and try to trade shot big mistake,plus david tua chin is a coconut love to see this happen tua is lost alot weight if they will fight by than tua will come out around 220s thats bad news for peter, should be a great fight tho 2 power shot guys,just cant see peter take one of the tuaman left hook

natep
08-19-2007, 03:17 AM
I wouldn't go as far to say that it would be a mistake to trade with Tua. Hasim Rahman knocked down Tua, remember? I'd say Peter has heavier hands than Rahman.

left hook 75
08-19-2007, 03:49 AM
I wouldn't go as far to say that it would be a mistake to trade with Tua. Hasim Rahman knocked down Tua, remember? I'd say Peter has heavier hands than Rahman.The fact Tua went down against Rahman had more to do with Tua swinging wildly at the bell and being totally off balance.Shit Paulie Malignaggi would've had Tua down in that situation.

Grabonator
08-19-2007, 03:54 AM
if this fight happen,tua will ko peter,peter stand infront of tua and try to trade shot big mistake,plus david tua chin is a coconut love to see this happen tua is lost alot weight if they will fight by than tua will come out around 220s thats bad news for peter, should be a great fight tho 2 power shot guys,just cant see peter take one of the tuaman left hook

I dont think Tua will weigh much less than he did today in the future, he shurely wont come in under 230. I say 235 is a good weight for him now.

PATSYS
08-19-2007, 09:00 AM
I wouldn't go as far to say that it would be a mistake to trade with Tua. Hasim Rahman knocked down Tua, remember? I'd say Peter has heavier hands than Rahman.

Even if assuming (for sake of discussion) that it was a legit KD (which it is not), it is very debatable that Peter hits harder than Rahman.

Peter is overrated really. He is the HW Lacy. I thought the loss to Wlad and Toney (yes he lost the 1st fight) made people see the B- fighter he is.

And Maskaev beats Peter, you'll see.

Ilesey
08-19-2007, 09:06 AM
I think this would be a good competitive fight. For me it would be determined by who had the higher workrate, which belongs to Peter. Not that Peter has an excellent jab but it is capable of giving Tua problems. Tua would be able to get in and would be able to land and despite his power, Peter has a solid chin. He took what Wlad through at him - even a solid left in the last round when he was exhausted. Peter would win a UD against Tua but would be made to work hard for it. His chin will be tested again and I think Tua would put up a brave but losing effort.

Ilesey
08-19-2007, 09:11 AM
I wouldn't go as far to say that it would be a mistake to trade with Tua. Hasim Rahman knocked down Tua, remember? I'd say Peter has heavier hands than Rahman.

That's a bit nonsensical.

Rahman knocked Tua down whilst Tua was loading up at the end of the round. He was off balance and for a guy his size he did well trying to stay on his feet. I'm not necessarily questioning the legitimacy of the knockdown but your assertion is wrong. It's not as if Rahman landed flush ala Lewis now was it? Was Tua even hurt? Did he get straight back up?

El Bombasto
08-19-2007, 11:23 AM
I think this would be a good competitive fight. For me it would be determined by who had the higher workrate, which belongs to Peter. Not that Peter has an excellent jab but it is capable of giving Tua problems. Tua would be able to get in and would be able to land and despite his power, Peter has a solid chin. He took what Wlad through at him - even a solid left in the last round when he was exhausted. Peter would win a UD against Tua but would be made to work hard for it. His chin will be tested again and I think Tua would put up a brave but losing effort.

Peter gets too much credit for his chin (which seems pretty good, but no cast iron like many claim) based on his fight with Wlad. I can't think of any point in that fight where Wlad unloaded on Peter, Wlad seemed more focused on protecting himself and out boxing Peter to a safe UD.

Grabonator
08-19-2007, 11:30 AM
Peter gets too much credit for his chin (which seems pretty good, but no cast iron like many claim) based on his fight with Wlad. I can't think of any point in that fight where Wlad unloaded on Peter, Wlad seemed more focused on protecting himself and out boxing Peter to a safe UD.

But Wlad definitely mixed some verry hard shots in and Peter took them.

Ilesey
08-19-2007, 01:42 PM
Peter gets too much credit for his chin (which seems pretty good, but no cast iron like many claim) based on his fight with Wlad. I can't think of any point in that fight where Wlad unloaded on Peter, Wlad seemed more focused on protecting himself and out boxing Peter to a safe UD.

I disagree. He took flush, meaty shot from arguably the heaviest hitter in the division today. He only looked in trouble toward the end of the fight where he was gassed. Wlad was never going to steam into Peter, who was noted as having a dig and a solid albeit untested chin. No way was Klitschko going to mix it or go toe to toe with Peter or he would have ended up on his back. Peter has not been knocked out, stopped, or even off his feet in any of his fights - not just his fight with Klitschko. That's good enough proof for me that he has a solid chin.

El Bombasto
08-19-2007, 05:24 PM
I disagree. He took flush, meaty shot from arguably the heaviest hitter in the division today. He only looked in trouble toward the end of the fight where he was gassed. Wlad was never going to steam into Peter, who was noted as having a dig and a solid albeit untested chin. No way was Klitschko going to mix it or go toe to toe with Peter or he would have ended up on his back. Peter has not been knocked out, stopped, or even off his feet in any of his fights - not just his fight with Klitschko. That's good enough proof for me that he has a solid chin.

One look at his resume and that's what I would expect from any C+ boxer.

Grabonator
08-19-2007, 05:26 PM
Peter UD. Both guys can crack and both can take it but i think Peter is more skilled and is taller and has a longer reach. Tua maybe would land some bombs on Peter but Peter is a hard nut to crack.

Action
08-19-2007, 05:26 PM
Tua by KO

ripcity
08-19-2007, 05:27 PM
my prdiction: There s a posibility this will happen.

PATSYS
08-19-2007, 11:52 PM
my prdiction: There s a posibility this will happen. Wtf? That is one of the safest and gayest prediction I've seen.

dave82
08-20-2007, 01:32 AM
my prdiction: There s a posibility this will happen.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA awesome post :good

Ilesey
08-20-2007, 04:14 PM
One look at his resume and that's what I would expect from any C+ boxer.

Perhaps.

Or perhaps you are being too harsh on a man who has shown no real sign of a weak chin and who has stayed upright against perhaps the biggest puncher and best heavyweight today.

I am not overrating his chin, but many a fighter has crumbled under Klitschko and to simply undervalue the power shots that were landed and spin some contorted summary that Wlad was in survival mode from the get go is undeserved and does Peter a disservice.

I have never proposed that Peter is un-knockoutable, but more that he has a solid chin. I also think that if Klitschko is unable to take Peter off his feet, let alone stop him then I don’t see Tua doing it either - despite his obvious power.

0-1
08-20-2007, 06:00 PM
Tua will have to have an impressive win first, but there's plenty of time for that whilst Peter fights Maskaev and then possibly Klitschko, if he wins, and maybe McCall. Then I can see the fight being made, but Peter should take it at this stage, on work-rate.

paulfv
08-20-2007, 10:24 PM
I think Tua would KO Peter.

As limited as Tua may be (at least in terms of reach/stature), he's nowhere near as limited as Peter is, IMO. I would love to see this fight, or Peter-Brewster if LB still wants to keep fighting.

BoxingGuru
08-20-2007, 11:02 PM
Tua would knock Scam Cheater the fuck out. Scam couldn't knock Peter out with his usual behind the head cheating tactics. He would stand right in front of Tua and let Tua hit him, then nighty night Scam Cheater.

paulfv
08-20-2007, 11:10 PM
Scam Cheater
Outstanding. I wish I had thought of that name. *applause*

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It's amazing how much 'love' Peter gets from certain segments, either those, IMO, who don't like white HW champions (oh, and BTW, I'm Latino so I don't have any particular affinity for a white champ), or those who just hate the Klitschkos and see Peter as their best hope.

Peter is an incredibly limited fighter. I like him as a person, but his discipline is awful and his skill level is about as bad. He hits hard (although I'm not sure exactly how hard) and has a good chin and good heart (well, at least he did before he lost his first fight; many undefeated fighters have a good heart; the real test comes after they learn they can lose). But what do we really know about the guy? That he can lose 10 of 12 rounds to Wlad K.? That he couldn't take out a fat middleweight, or even actually defeat him in their first bout? That he pretty much never comes into a fight in peak condition?

IMO, there's still a lot of questions to be answered by Peter. He does have natural talent, but I'm not sure about much else. We'll find out, starting with the fight against Maskaev.

Willy Bonka
08-21-2007, 01:35 AM
...2 of the HARDEST *PUNCHiNG Heavyweights out there currently!

Hmmm...

I'm gonna play "favorites", ...David Tua:bbb over Sam Peter:tired ( KO by 4 )!!!