Cotto Will Get Exposed Badly,I'll Tell You Why.

[Sug3]

I've been watching alot of cotto's fight's and i noticed that,when cotto get's rocked or hurt he doesn't know how to clinch and against a fighter like mosley u need more than just heart and determination.

Heart and determination against mosley will just make u eat alot of punches,until the ref,the doc or your corner stop's the fight,cotto is a very good fighter,but mosley is like hopkins,because there gym rat's and there alway's in great shape.

Cotto's biggest downfall is that he never learned how to clinch when hurt and this will cause him to take alot of punishment from mosley,corley stunned cotto,torres almost knocked cotto out,zab rocked cotto.

Mosley will do what all 3 guy's did,but the only difference is cotto will get tko'ed or knocked out cold,cotto get's stronger as the fight goe's on,but guess what,so doe's mosley and the difference is mosley will still have his handspeed.

Body punching-U all forget that mosley is a great body-puncher also and wouldn't be suprised if mosley stop's cotto with a body-punch,but i have a feeling mosley will have cotto hurt early and finish him off within 5 rounds,i'll just say i told u so.

[mouse]

Interesting points. Add to that the fact that Shane's chin has been tested by some pretty vicious punchers and passed with flying colours. Sure Cotto can dish it out but can he take it? We're about to find out.

[dwilson]

Mosley by UD. I agree.

[mouse]

I must admit, I also see only one outcome here, Mosley by UD.

Having said that, if Cotto wins this one, he will make a believer of me.

[achillesthegreat]

Not at all. This is bollocks. The only thing Cotto has shown is he has great survival skills. He has shown this against Corley, Torres and Judah. Sosa and Abdulaev caught his attention for a second with right hands but he wasn't in serious trouble. Corley, Torres and Judah tried closing the show on a hurt Cotto but failed.

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Is clinching something that really needs to be taught... i didnt know that ya had to train to learn something like... reach out and grab and hold someone

[curtis]

Corley, Torres and Judah tried closing the show on a hurt Cotto but failed.

But Mosley is a bit better finisher than those guys

:deal

[MilesP]

Is clinching something that really needs to be taught... i didnt know that ya had to train to learn something like... reach out and grab and hold someone


seemingly it does....it saved this man's career:

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[Andre]

But Mosley is a bit better finisher than those guys

:deal


:good

[emanuel_augustus]

Sorry guys, Mosley isn't what he used to be and Cotto is a stone killer right in his prime.

He also has the bruising boxer/puncher style and relentless attack to trouble a boxer like Mosley. Especially an old Mosley who's legs aren't quite the same as they once were. Not to say Mosley is shot, but Cotto is simply too strong.

My feeling is Cotto will break him down and stop Shane between 7 and 9.

[nrgetic]

Klitschko was accused of not clinching when in trouble and he seems to overcome that weakness in his skills set. Its important to remember these are well paid professional athletes so it is within the realm of possibility that they improve their capabilities from fight to fight. Learning how to grab someone shouldn't be too hard

[Sizzle]

Mosley doesn't hit as hard as Zab Judah - I remember Winky Wright laughing at him and letting his guard down for a few seconds allowing Mosley to hit him as if to say "I don't respect your power!" Cottos chin is not fantastic, but it'd be one hell of a task for Mosley to rattle it.

Cotto clearly has the superior power, and I think he'll hurt Mosley more than what he's used to particularly with precise body punching - I thought Judah could defeat Cotto with his speed, movement, and slightly awkward slick southpaw style, but Cotto proved me wrong, he cut the ring off, got a little dirty and hurt Judah with efficient well-timed powerful punching.

I think he busts up this version of Mosely with a good decision victory.

[psychopath]

Cotto Will Get Exposed Badly,I'll Tell You Why.

Exposed? What is there to be exposed in Cotto. :think

Just make it plain and simple dumbfuck . . . just say Cotto is gonna lose.

PERIOD! :yep

[Zakman]

Cotto's an exciting fighter, but vulnerable too. One would assume that if a light-hitter like Corley could put him on queer street, and a limited fighter like Torres knock him down - Shane might well be able to knock him out.

[achillesthegreat]

But Mosley is a bit better finisher than those guys

:deal
Doesn't matter. Every hurdle thrown at Cotto he leaps over.

[achillesthegreat]

Cotto's an exciting fighter, but vulnerable too. One would assume that if a light-hitter like Corley could put him on queer street, and a limited fighter like Torres knock him down - Shane might well be able to knock him out.
I'm sure thats what people thought about Ali pre Liston, what with Banks, Jones and Cooper dropping or stunning him.

[kirk]

EXPOSED?

so if he loses to mosley, hes going to be EXPOSED?

as what?

hes already a very very good fighter, he wont be EXPOSED... hes past that already, that happens when fighters are on the verge of where cotto is already at, if he was exposed it would have been done against the likes of pinto, ndou, bailey, ect...

he wont be exposed, he will just be beat by a great fighter.

[brooklyn1550]

Cotto UD

[obedt]

People expecting a blowout one way or the other will be surprised IMHO. They both will have their gamplans in place -

Cotto will probably try and work mostly behind his jab. In the opening seconds he will come in with his high guard, shoot a jab and an overhand right. He does this so that the other fighter figures he has to respect both hands. This sequence I believe was what produced the cut over Paulie's eye in their fight, and if you watch the Zab fight, Judah retreated immediately after receiving the right very early. Miguel will also try to go southpaw on the outside, and his defense really suffers here, but it allows him to use his strong hand back and the straight left has been very effective since moving up in weight.
Miguel will also try and work in that right hook/uppercut he used vs Zab - [Note that this is the punch that Miguel did not time properly and what caused the 2nd (And most damaging) low blow that occurred in the 3rd Rd]. This is done trying to time where his opponent will be, and also to work him in the direction Miguel wants to go to cut-off the ring. And inside is where his bread and butter will be, since this is where he gets the hooks to the body and that left uppercut inside which was the punch that put Zab down, and also hurt him on various occasions. Note that this is the punch that Miguel did not time properly and what caused the 2nd (And most damaging) low blow that occured in the 3rd Rd. Also on the inside Miguel will get in some elbows and some kidney punches.

Shane, on the other hand, does not have as good a jab, but his footwork will be much better. Shane will try and pop in and out of range and do most of his damage w/ the right hand. It can be an overhand right or right hook both downstairs or upstairs. Shane will use a lot of head movement to try and reduce the openings for Miguel's jab, as well as the pitty pat jab designed to block punches more than anything. When circling left he has a very solid left hook. It didn't show up as much in the Collazo fight though, possibly a matter of Shane not using it against southpaws.

If Shane cannot stay away from Cotto's jab this will be a very tough fight for him. If, however, Shane can land the overhand right over Cotto's jab - well then he will be the clear favorite. On the inside, I expect Mosley do his fair share of rough housing as well, but I expect him to try and hold and stay away as much as possible. The small NY ring comes into play in this match-up guys.

I also think the later it goes the more it plays into Miguel's hands. He is money in the championship rounds. It's a great match-up - one where there is a lot more to it than "knowing how to hold."

[Boricua - TLH]

Since Mosley is one of the Top WW today Cotto will be "Badly Exposed" in front of the whole wide World as the BEST CURRENT WW, once he TKO's the Future HOF Sugar Shane Mosley... And that's that!!

[MacManJr.]

seemingly it does....it saved this man's career:

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[the_what]

I havent seen Mosley's power in the past few years. Other than knocking out Vargas who looked like a zombie in the rematch, he hasnt shown me any power. Other than the Vargas fight you would have to go to his KO of Adrian Stone back in 2001. Mosley is not the fighter he used to be. And as ive said before, Cotto will make Mosley look old in the ring. Expect Papa Jack to save his son from an ass whooping as he throws in the white towel.

[Caper]

I havent seen Mosley's power in the past few years. Other than knocking out Vargas who looked like a zombie in the rematch, he hasnt shown me any power. Other than the Vargas fight you would have to go to his KO of Adrian Stone back in 2001. Mosley is not the fighter he used to be. And as ive said before, Cotto will make Mosley look old in the ring. Expect Papa Jack to save his son from an ass whooping as he throws in the white towel.

Shane's a good dude like cooked food but he will most likely be stopped on the 10th. Not KO'd but stopped, for the first time in his career. I can also see a UD for Cotto (The more likely option to some extent)

[juancho214]

fighters don't get exposed by elite fighters, they get exposed by ordinary fighters,if he looses its not that big a deal,he'll have lost to Shane Mosley, he has a weak chin big deal ,get over it

[AG11]

EXPOSED?

so if he loses to mosley, hes going to be EXPOSED?

as what?

hes already a very very good fighter, he wont be EXPOSED... hes past that already, that happens when fighters are on the verge of where cotto is already at, if he was exposed it would have been done against the likes of pinto, ndou, bailey, ect...

he wont be exposed, he will just be beat by a great fighter.

EXACTLY 100% correct. Everyone wants to shit on a fighter once he gets his first L.

If this fight turns out to fulfill even half of its expectations (because its IS going to be a FANTASTIC fight)....it is not going to be a fight where either fighter should be ashamed of. The best man will be victourious that night and the loser will have nothing to be ashamed about.

[King Dan]

Sorry guys, Mosley isn't what he used to be and Cotto is a stone killer right in his prime.

He also has the bruising boxer/puncher style and relentless attack to trouble a boxer like Mosley. Especially an old Mosley who's legs aren't quite the same as they once were. Not to say Mosley is shot, but Cotto is simply too strong.

My feeling is Cotto will break him down and stop Shane between 7 and 9.

Oh ya cuz Shane gets broken down all the time. :lol:

The more you punch against Shane, the worse it gets.

This is a 50/50 fight for me.

[TroubleLurks]

I remember Winky Wright laughing at him and letting his guard down for a few seconds allowing Mosley to hit him as if to say "I don't respect your power!"

Winky respected Shanes power after he had to grab on to Mosley while stubbling around on rubber legs. Hell, he almost tackled him. Mosley has plenty of pop to test Cottos chin. It will just be a matter of time as much as Cotto exposes his chin. It will be tested several times.:deal

[Dorfmeister]

First and most of all, obedt, I generally agree with your logical assumption that this may rise more equivocal questions rather than straight foreeeable scenarios but one should always consider the value of suggestions, conventional wisdom and of collective knowledge too. Anyway, pure enthusiasm usually enlivens, in the more obstinate selves, some kinda insignificant daydreaming, pointed directness or straightforward simplicity rather than discreet awareness, grunted skepticism and rearranged expectation... B'sides, both Miguelito and Suga Shane are civilized guys who know the score inside out and it is hardly believable that all hell's breakin' loose at the get go... Short & to the points, Miguel tends to focus mostly under the chest area with high power punchin connect rate in way to sure wins but doing so, he forgets to use the jab as often as desirable jus like against Malignaggi in MSG - that's why Paulie went the distance and made Miguel look like a sucker for a snappy jab and flashy one-twos ever since the first bell - also against Urkal and even vs Judah, Miguel appeared mostly predictable and reckless at times, when jumping in the distance for the massive body attack and following up to the head with meatier looking hooks and uppercuts... However, the unalduterated truth and more valuable insight may be that the 2nd round knockdown against Paulie and the low blows against Judah were the real breakthroughs that really flipped the course of the action. Shane is not to expose anything relevant but should put thought into awareness instead of getting carried away and take it like against Cruz, Estrada and even Vargas, he should be light on his feet, letting his hands go loosely, snapping the jab fluid and double, triple hooking inside, break the action wisely and move away out of danger, never let Miguel narrow the field nor muscle up against him, but always spying on chances to crack in the right over the top and sudden short left hook just like against Vargas - if he sarts on good foot, stays busier and doesn't get tagged more often than not, he may make it an easy, flat road to follow on and a steep incline for Miguel at the same time, just like did happen with Collazo to the point of the other borinquan open up, got driven off, lost his footing and came tumbling down... Mosley is not some piece of precious china but may not be able to hold his own in my mind since there's more than space for worst-case scenarios, unpredictable reactions and enough surprises to make this one an extremely unpredictable contest. Compliments to obedt and everyone else.

[Vantage_West]

OMG you have Exposed Cotto :yep Not wanting to clinch, And not knowing how to clinch are too different things you can't honesty think Cotto never learned how to clinch, "cmon now".:lol: :lol: im luaghing cuz


your A DERKHEAD
OF COURSE HE KOWS HOW TO CLINCH BUT THE POINT IS HE DOESNT USE IT WELL HE JUST GRABS ON NOT A TACTICAL MANOUVRE.

[Vantage_West]

Is clinching something that really needs to be taught... i didnt know that ya had to train to learn something like... reach out and grab and hold someonei think it's getting a bad press.becuase of ruiz,akinwande,wlad,lewis,hatton.

it tires your opponant out people seem to think that just standing toe to toe with somone is going to be all out battle. but when 2 inside fighters fight each other it usually leads to both men bumping into each other and getting very close in which both men can't engage.

it is a useful tool and can be exiting or at least interesting.if people are jabbing and grabbing...thats somthing different

[Vantage_West]

Mosley doesn't hit as hard as Zab Judah - I remember Winky Wright laughing at him and letting his guard down for a few seconds allowing Mosley to hit him as if to say "I don't respect your power!" Cottos chin is not fantastic, but it'd be one hell of a task for Mosley to rattle it.

Cotto clearly has the superior power, and I think he'll hurt Mosley more than what he's used to particularly with precise body punching - I thought Judah could defeat Cotto with his speed, movement, and slightly awkward slick southpaw style, but Cotto proved me wrong, he cut the ring off, got a little dirty and hurt Judah with efficient well-timed powerful punching.

I think he busts up this version of Mosely with a good decision victory.mate the whole point is that miguel is easy to hit period he doesnt have a weak chin he doesnt have bad skills or speed.

but he is small has a guard which a good cross can flow through.

torres knocked him down even though he was very very slow
corley made him do a dance that even judah could laugh at


i have nothing wrong with the guy but he can be beat he is easy to hit and a good boxer puncher could do it...remember that zab hurt him 3 times...it's not a good sign. mosley is older now but he isnt slow and he aint weak he aint losing skills and his power he has kept.

[Grabonator]

Not at all. This is bollocks. The only thing Cotto has shown is he has great survival skills. He has shown this against Corley, Torres and Judah. Sosa and Abdulaev caught his attention for a second with right hands but he wasn't in serious trouble. Corley, Torres and Judah tried closing the show on a hurt Cotto but failed.

Exactly.