View Full Version : Hasim Rahman considers MMA!!
Charles White
02-26-2009, 03:44 PM
I didn't see this one coming, thoughts?:
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I would of thought he would make more money getting beat up in boxing, getting twisted in knots for pennies is a stupid idea.
Charles White
02-26-2009, 03:51 PM
Here is a fighthype.com interview with Rahman:
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I never thought I would see this. How much of a force could he possibly be even with a street fighting background?
Pimp C
02-26-2009, 03:51 PM
He 'll probably have better shot at MMA than he will in boxing right now.
Heavy-Weight
02-26-2009, 04:09 PM
Oh dear... it's far too late for him to be going into pro MMA!!!!!
Punisher33
02-26-2009, 04:28 PM
Well, at least thats one place where his chin will be considered good. If a former WWE pro wrestler could become Heavyweight champ, I suppose anyone whose physically gifted as the Rock is, can do it.
Heavyrighthand
02-26-2009, 04:31 PM
I think Rock will do well at that crap. More power to him.
RonnieHornschuh
02-26-2009, 04:51 PM
Well, at least thats one place where his chin will be considered good. If a former WWE pro wrestler could become Heavyweight champ, I suppose anyone whose physically gifted as the Rock is, can do it.
not really, lesnar has a solid wrestling background, and he has a work ethic like an animal, therefor he is almost impossible to take down and he has a strength advantage over any other fighter. it would take years for rahman to get his wrestling/bjj to a good level and to avoid getting submitted by someone like mir.
FreshPrince89
02-26-2009, 04:52 PM
lmao!! at Rahman
i mean he's is gifted physically...but he's old now, his reflexes are slowing down and he would have to learn all that ground stuff...but hey i'd watch it and it might even be free
Punisher33
02-26-2009, 04:57 PM
not really, lesnar has a solid wrestling background, and he has a work ethic like an animal, therefor he is almost impossible to take down and he has a strength advantage over any other fighter. it would take years for rahman to get his wrestling/bjj to a good level and to avoid getting submitted by someone like mir. I see your point, but coming into the MMA, Lesnar's only background was in College wrestling, something he hadn't competed in competitively in nearly 10 years before entering the UFC. Rahman would be in the same boat, he was a former Heavyweight champ who has been in and out of the top 10 for the last 8 years. Rahman is also extremely athletic, competing in several sports in his highschool career, doing well in both Basketball and Football.
MAG1965
02-26-2009, 05:00 PM
Bad idea. He just lost a title fight. No big deal. Stay in boxing and beat lower ranked guys. MMA never works out well for boxers.
2ironmt
02-26-2009, 05:40 PM
He can't be serious and he should get rid of the people advising him to consider MMA. Rock's stamina is horrible even while boxing c/c plus level guys like tauras sykes. How would he deal with 5 minute rounds of action where you don't get the chance to hug and rest and lean on guys. even bad grapplers could easily tire him out. rock also is sloppy and slovenly with his punches recently so he may not even have too much advantages against any mma in shape fighter w some boxing background. rock would have to get himself in really good shape to fight anyone other than tank abbot and if he's gonna do that, why not box where he can better hide his flaws?
Williams27
02-26-2009, 05:57 PM
I dont like his chances in MMA.
FINITO
02-26-2009, 06:07 PM
I hope he fights a killer and gets hurt. Fuck Rahman.
booradley
02-26-2009, 06:14 PM
So, is MMA going to become what pro wrestling was in the 50's, 60's and 70's; the place where old heavyweights go to die?
platnumpapi
02-26-2009, 06:20 PM
hasim rahman vs kimbo slice hell yeah ill give them 29 for it.
ChrisPontius
02-26-2009, 06:21 PM
Well he is washed up and just reached the highest he could've at this point: get a crack at the title. He's very slow though, and probably too old to learn a good amount of floor work and what not, to master MMA. The only thing i don't like about it, is that MMA fans will say "see, this is a boxing champion and he lost to this and that".
Tuffnutz
02-26-2009, 06:40 PM
He has'nt been a serious boxer for years and he's a one hit wonder anyway.
I wish Lennox had of trainned right and dealt with Rahman the way he did in the rematch the first time.
He's nto taking MMA seriously and is going to go in and get beaten by a can, make himself look bad and the sport of boxing look bad.
If you are a boxer that want's to compete in MMA then you should do what Marcus Davis has done.
All The Rock is doing is going for after quick pay day or two against the likes of Tank Abbott or Kimbo.
He's shot to shit as a boxer and wont take MMA seriously or do jack shit in that sport.
Just another washed up boxer looking for a pay day.
He quit against Toney because of a cut ffs.
What's he goign to do when he get's elbowed and cut in MMA?
Cut's in MMA are HUGE gapping cunt's on the face of dome.
Anyway he'll probably fight Kimbo and get subbed in a heart beat. lol
sdsfinest22
02-26-2009, 06:47 PM
Rahman is desperate!
Tuffnutz
02-26-2009, 06:54 PM
I see your point, but coming into the MMA, Lesnar's only background was in College wrestling, something he hadn't competed in competitively in nearly 10 years before entering the UFC. Rahman would be in the same boat, he was a former Heavyweight champ who has been in and out of the top 10 for the last 8 years. Rahman is also extremely athletic, competing in several sports in his highschool career, doing well in both Basketball and Football.
Rahman is shot to shit and boxing is the worst martial art to go into MMA with.
You cannot compare Rahman to Lesnar at all.
Wrestling is one of the top martial arts to use in MMA.
Brock Lesnar with no MMA training whatsoever would hand a prime Rahman his ass on the streets.
Rhamam is old, shot and all he wants is the money.
The only way Rahman does anything worth a toss in MMA is if he get's lucky like he did against Lewis. :deal
Tuffnutz
02-26-2009, 06:55 PM
Rahman is desperate!
:yep
Tuffnutz
02-26-2009, 07:01 PM
Bad idea. He just lost a title fight. No big deal. Stay in boxing and beat lower ranked guys. MMA never works out well for boxers.
It does'nt work well for shot to shit boxer's who are old and have no desire to become an MMA fighter really.
Rhaman just wants to fight Kimbo and the Kans. :yep
Marcus Davis is a boxer turned MMA fighter who took the sport seriously and he's doing well. He fight's in the UFC and was just an average boxer.
Iv'e got time for Davis, but no time for any boxer who just wants to jump on the MMA band Wagon and make a quick buck fighting Kimbo Slice etc.
Rhaman knows hes shot and knows that he has no desire to compete in MMA at all.
He's there for the pay day and to humiliate himslef and boxing.
I don't believe a word he say's.
Rudyard
02-26-2009, 07:03 PM
Rahman just needs to leave the fight game alone...PERIOD...That dude is shot and he will get his ass handed to him very quickly.:-(
DbesoFresh
02-26-2009, 07:11 PM
Get em Rock, do ya thang
eiregobrach
02-26-2009, 07:15 PM
Good luck to him, he will never really have any other significant fight in the boxing world imo. The one fantastic memory, very grateful for it.
Punisher33
02-26-2009, 09:07 PM
Rahman is shot to shit and boxing is the worst martial art to go into MMA with.
You cannot compare Rahman to Lesnar at all.
Wrestling is one of the top martial arts to use in MMA.
Brock Lesnar with no MMA training whatsoever would hand a prime Rahman his ass on the streets.
Rhamam is old, shot and all he wants is the money.
The only way Rahman does anything worth a toss in MMA is if he get's lucky like he did against Lewis. :deal I dont know about that, Tim Sylvia's main skill was striking, he was a former Heavyweight champ, and I know Liddel was a former kick boxer.
In my opinion, if you matched prime Rahman and Lesnar in a street fight, it would be a 50/50 IMO, if Rahman catches Lesnar with the right hand, it's over. If Lesnar slams Rahman it's probably, even though Lesnar punches like a girl when he got his oppenent on the ground.:yep
Heavyrighthand
02-26-2009, 09:10 PM
I'd like to see Rock land a solid overhand right to the chin of a top MMA fighter with those tiny little gloves they wear.
Hermit
02-26-2009, 09:15 PM
So, is MMA going to become what pro wrestling was in the 50's, 60's and 70's; the place where old heavyweights go to die?
Top level MMA is no joke and no place for someone that cannot defend themselves properly. Thai clinch and knee has been shown to deliver the largest force measured in terms of striking another human being.
Vanboxingfan
02-26-2009, 09:26 PM
Top level MMA is no joke and no place for someone that cannot defend themselves properly. Thai clinch and knee has been shown to deliver the largest force measured in terms of striking another human being.
No doubt, but on the other hand, not a lot of heavyweights are using these techniques. Silva mostly boxes and not overly well at that. But any fighter without any grappling experience better be hoping for a KO prior to the fight hitting the ground, otherwise their chances are slim to none.
iceman71
02-26-2009, 09:38 PM
boxers will always fail in MMA
MMA guys will always fail at boxing
magnificentdave
02-26-2009, 09:59 PM
OMG I CANT BLIEVE IT
this is just a sign of how far rahman has fallen
he is going down the same route as Mercer
--not that I have anything against him doing it, i just think he'd stick with boxing if he still thought he was significant there.
boxingwizard
02-26-2009, 11:09 PM
I hope Rahman does well in MMA, hopefully we'll be seeing some highlight reel KO's.
achillesthegreat
02-27-2009, 04:45 AM
I disagree. Many boxers would succeed in MMA and vica versa. They are athletes with fight in them. No proper transition has been made. Belfort, Rampage and others would do well in boxing if they dedicated themselves. Similarly boxing has guys who could do well and already have MMA backgrounds i.e. Hatton, Wlad, Vitali, Cintron, Haye etc
Utter1
02-27-2009, 09:26 AM
Rahman is shot to shit and boxing is the worst martial art to go into MMA with.
You cannot compare Rahman to Lesnar at all.
Wrestling is one of the top martial arts to use in MMA.
Brock Lesnar with no MMA training whatsoever would hand a prime Rahman his ass on the streets.
Rhamam is old, shot and all he wants is the money.
The only way Rahman does anything worth a toss in MMA is if he get's lucky like he did against Lewis. :deal
Boxing is not one of the worse martial arts to go in with, your getting confused by former pro boxers who are way past it, and lack any real understanding of the sport (mma) and think that they can just go in and box etc....when they get in, the get taken to the ground etc.
Most wrestlers......that go in, know they need to train in standup etc....so in reality boxers well the ones that have gone into MMA are just too lazy and arrogant to learn grappling, wrestling, BJJ, and Take down defence.
Utter1
02-27-2009, 09:29 AM
boxers will always fail in MMA
MMA guys will always fail at boxing
black and white............your watching the world through tinted glasses....Its about the individual not the sport.
David Haye has said that when he first sparred with MMA guys.....that he would get taken down at least 7 or 8 times during a sessions and so developed Takedown defence etc and tweaked his style, he then went onto say that he only gets taken down 2 or 3 times out of ten now....and that any boxer who goes into the sport shud not be so arrogant as to not learn other disiciplines.
If you learn boxing/kickboxing/muai thai for stand up and add wrestling, BJJ etc for ground game then you can be a succes in which ever sport you do.
MaliSlamusrex
02-27-2009, 09:48 AM
i only reached the reply to this thread but it says it all. :patsch
I would of thought he would make more money getting beat up in boxing, getting twisted in knots for pennies is a stupid idea.
Tuffnutz
02-27-2009, 05:38 PM
Boxing is not one of the worse martial arts to go in with, your getting confused by former pro boxers who are way past it, and lack any real understanding of the sport (mma) and think that they can just go in and box etc....when they get in, the get taken to the ground etc.
Most wrestlers......that go in, know they need to train in standup etc....so in reality boxers well the ones that have gone into MMA are just too lazy and arrogant to learn grappling, wrestling, BJJ, and Take down defence.
I'm talking style vs style.
In that case boxing is the worst.
My reply was to a guy who thought Rahman would beat up Lesnar.
The truth is that Lesnar when he was in WWE would beat a prime Rahman in a street fight. :lol:
That is all.
nfc90210
02-27-2009, 05:40 PM
I dont know about that, Tim Sylvia's main skill was striking, he was a former Heavyweight champ, and I know Liddel was a former kick boxer.
Liddell was a kickboxer directly before getting into MMA. That's deceptive though. He wrestled in high school and was then a division 1 wrestler in college.
Also, for the shit Tim Sylvia gets for being goofy looking and ungraceful he’s from a very good camp and in fights, such as his one with Jeff Monson, has exhibited good submission defence.
Tuffnutz
02-27-2009, 05:44 PM
I dont know about that, Tim Sylvia's main skill was striking, he was a former Heavyweight champ, and I know Liddel was a former kick boxer.
In my opinion, if you matched prime Rahman and Lesnar in a street fight, it would be a 50/50 IMO, if Rahman catches Lesnar with the right hand, it's over. If Lesnar slams Rahman it's probably, even though Lesnar punches like a girl when he got his oppenent on the ground.:yep
The odds of Lesnar scoring a takedown are far greater than the odd's of Rahman landing a punch.
Its alway's "if" he lands a punch is'nt it? :lol:
If a pure boxer gets into it with a pure wrestler then most of the time the wrestler win's.
The boxer needs to learn wreslrting big time. Far mpore than the wreslter need's to learn how to box. :yep
Tuffnutz
02-27-2009, 05:49 PM
Liddell was a kickboxer directly before getting into MMA. That's deceptive though. He wrestled in high school and was then a division 1 wrestler in college.
Also, for the shit Tim Sylvia gets for being goofy looking and ungraceful he’s from a very good camp and in fights, such as his one with Jeff Monson, has exhibited good submission defence.
Plus Tim's size is a BIG advantage. :lol:
People slag off Tim but he's better to watch than Valuev and hong Man Choi etc and a better athlete.
OuterDrake
02-28-2009, 09:07 AM
I'm talking style vs style.
In that case boxing is the worst.
My reply was to a guy who thought Rahman would beat up Lesnar.
The truth is that Lesnar when he was in WWE would beat a prime Rahman in a street fight. :lol:
That is all.
So you think Tai chi, Tae kwon do, gung fu and kung fu, all these styles are better than boxing?Even Karate?:patsch
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ufoalf
02-28-2009, 11:54 AM
So you think Tai chi, Tae kwon do, gung fu and kung fu, all these styles are better than boxing?Even Karate?:patsch
Out of ALL styles its not the worst for sure. Boxing is the best at punching and no one will argue that. But out of the styles that are actually used in MMA boxing is the most limited one.
Mui Thai, kickboxing, wrestler, bjj, etc. all have advantages over boxing.
Tuffnutz
03-01-2009, 09:15 AM
Out of ALL styles its not the worst for sure. Boxing is the best at punching and no one will argue that. But out of the styles that are actually used in MMA boxing is the most limited one.
Mui Thai, kickboxing, wrestler, bjj, etc. all have advantages over boxing.
:yep
Tuffnutz
03-01-2009, 09:15 AM
Tai chi
:lol:
Rico Spadafora
03-01-2009, 11:25 AM
So you think Tai chi, Tae kwon do, gung fu and kung fu, all these styles are better than boxing?Even Karate?:patsch
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:lol::rofl:patsch
Karate is completely useless.
Utter1
03-01-2009, 03:25 PM
I'm talking style vs style.
In that case boxing is the worst.
My reply was to a guy who thought Rahman would beat up Lesnar.
The truth is that Lesnar when he was in WWE would beat a prime Rahman in a street fight. :lol:
That is all.
Pure speculation yet again...............we havent seen enough of Brock Lesnar fighting period. He has had 4 fights and lost the best fighter he has faced in Frank Mir.
Also Brock during his time in WWE would not have beaten Hasim simply by virtue of the fact that the guy didnt even train in MMA.......all he had was his wrestling background.
Wrestlers are doing well in sport because they understand that they have to add to the arsenal of skills, whearas so far we have had over the hill boxers who are to ignorant and too lazy to even train in other combats sports.
Trust me.......if MMA keeps growing you will get boxers who turn to MMA but actually add in wrestling and BJJ.
sugarngold
03-01-2009, 04:24 PM
So you think Tai chi, Tae kwon do, gung fu and kung fu, all these styles are better than boxing?Even Karate?:patsch
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Truth be told - that clip features tae kwon do guys using point sparring techniques against a boxer looking to knock them out - so they got what they deserved. They act like they've never kicked someone in the legs or head before.
This is what kyokushin karate looks like.
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IntentionalButt
03-03-2009, 02:29 PM
Cool, another sport I can go out of my way to ignore him in. :good
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