ESB has more Taylor haters than Pavlik believers

[BobDigi5060]

Almost every Pavlik prediction involves some sort of JT bashing. Most posts picking Pavlik are about how JT sucks so bad instead of qualities and atributes of Pavlik. Half of the Pavlik predictions involve some sort of discredit at the hands of Taylor. JT dominates the discussion and the only mention of Pavlik is in whom the victor will be.

Its a shame and clear as day. Half of the people picking Pavlik just want to see Taylor lose more than anything.

[Shotgun]

Half of the people picking Pavlik just want to see Taylor lose more than anything.

Most likely, they'll get their wish

[Toopretty]

Hell yeah, but fuck them. Pavlik is dangerous...yes..Pavlik can knock out taylor...yes...will. he....dont know.....50/50 fight. Taylor may outbox him and win majority rounds may get knocked down early to mid way through when Pavlike lands something big and JT is not used to his power. But JT has heart and has a fighter mentality and will get up and fight harder. All JT has to do is watch out for that str8 right that pavlik is going to throw over his jab and not stand in one spot. If he does that he wins. If he slips up he may get caught. Abraham would get beat by both....clearly...NOT in Germany though....I dare him to come to the US and fight....lol

[GazOC]

I find Taylor boring to watch but I think he'll get a close UD against Pavlik.

[pipe wrenched]

< I like them both, but I'm gonna go with Pavlik. tko 7.

[Amsterdam]

Almost every Pavlik prediction involves some sort of JT bashing. Most posts picking Pavlik are about how JT sucks so bad instead of qualities and atributes of Pavlik. Half of the Pavlik predictions involve some sort of discredit at the hands of Taylor. JT dominates the discussion and the only mention of Pavlik is in whom the victor will be.

Its a shame and clear as day. Half of the people picking Pavlik just want to see Taylor lose more than anything.

And Taylor rightfully deserves all of the discredit that he recieves, he's a piss poor 'undisputed champion' who never should have been given the decision over Hopkins to begin with. Notice how he's struggled with fighters that were placed with him as showcases for him to starch(Spinks and Ouma), then people just write those sloppy victories off as if Spinks and Ouma are magnificent smaller men that would do the same to all top MW's, but this is incorrect.

I despise how people rate solely on reputation and not on actually watching the bouts.

This is how some idiots actually think that a guy who cannot handle pressure even from a small, light hitting man in Ouma is somehow going to handle the pressure from a much larger, much stronger and true KO punching big MW in Pavlik, when Taylor was ROCKED by Winky Wright.

They forget little details like that and go of off reputation, it's idiocy.

[Lacyace]

as if Spinks and Ouma are magnificent smaller men that would do the same to all top MW's, but this is incorrect.
Actually, that would be correct.

[Amsterdam]

Actually, that would be correct.

You think Ouma lasts more than a few rounds coming forward against real hard hitting MW's, or that Spinks eats a counter punch from a KO hitter of the size of Pavlik and Abraham?

Give me a break. Spinks was lit up by Judah at 147.

[nervousxtian]

Who thought he was gonna starch Ouma and Spinks?

Sure as hell not me.

Both Ouma and Spinks are GOOD to ELITE level fighters... but go on being a stupid fucking wanker, we know you will, oh and why not talk about guys 2 weight classes up will starch Taylor, because we know how fucking relevant THAT is..

[Lacyace]

You think Ouma lasts more than a few rounds coming forward against real hard hitting MW's, or that Spinks eats a counter punch from a KO hitter of the size of Pavlik and Abraham?

Give me a break. Spinks was lit up by Judah at 147.
Spinks would beat Pavlik. You act like Spinks is easy to hit. Spinks getting hit with a counter-punch is rare. Cory would outbox Pavlik over 12.

[Zakman]

Gee guys, ya think it might be the three GIFT DECISIONS he got in a row that has people pissed off???

I absolutely hate it when boxing politics give fighters victories they don't deserve - particularly when it comes at the expense of hardworking fighters like Hopkins and Wright who paid their dues, but weren't popular with the boxing establishment.

When Pavlik knocks Taylor cold I will as happy as when Sprott starched Fraudley. :yep










OK, maybe not quite THAT happy...... :lol:

[nezy37]

It's definately JT hateing which is understandible based upon his last several fights, which where terrible to watch to say the least. However I think Taylor has too much speed for Pavlik and will give him all sorts of trouble. Not that I think Pavlik is a better fighter I just think JT has the advantage in this matchup

[dave82]

I have to agree, I personally don't dislike or like JT. The man does fight top notch boxers so i do give him that much.

[compukiller]

JT is a nice enough guy, but he is more a product of hype than anything else. I also believe he never quite recovered from the Hopkins fights. He has not been the same since (in fact, he's much, much worse).

Pavlik by Late TKO.

[Lostmykeys]

I'm still a fan of Taylor and I hope he pulls it out against Pavlik.

[Toopretty]

Taylor does have a lot of haters here and rightfully so. The man was placed on a shiny mantle by HBO which tried to build him up with their hype. But through the sloppy performances and gift decisions many have come to the conclusion that the guy is more a fraud rather than a star. All the Taylor bashing is well justified.

STFU. He been in the ring with great fighters and never was beaten convincingly I thought bhop edged out the first fight. I thought winky may have gotten 1 round on him. But not no damned clear cut robberies. lol

[Scar]

JT has been hated since his first fight with Hopkins, it just got worse from then. I'm a big fan of JT and wouldn't hate any boxer that brings excitement to the division, yes his last 2 performances totally sucked but I'm sure he has what it takes to prove everyone wrong. Besides, who looks good fighting Spinks anyway?

[pipe wrenched]

JT has been hated since his first fight with Hopkins, it just got worse from then. I'm a big fan of JT and wouldn't hate any boxer that brings excitement to the division, yes his last 2 performances totally sucked but I'm sure he has what it takes to prove everyone wrong. Besides, who looks good fighting Spinks anyway?

Judah II:good

[Scar]

Then why did JT decide to fight him?

That's a question I want the answer of as well and everyone knew that it was a pointless fight that was going to be boring as hell.

[Scar]

Judah II:good

Judah brought his A game that night and totally dominated, got any more?

[Mrboogie23]

Judah II:good


hate to use a cliche but it applies in this case. Styles make fights. Judah and Taylor have totally different physical attibutes and are two totally different types of fighter.

[Alo2006]

I wonder would people be saying that Pavlik will KO JT if he never Ko'ed Miranda? It's going to be a lot of disappointed people on here :yep