View Full Version : Tua - Wlad Klitchko
Stinky gloves
08-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Who take it right now?
Tua have excellent chin, would Wlad be able to stop him?
In other words if Wlad do not stop him will he be able to survive to the end of 12th round?
brooklyn1550
08-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Wladimir Klitschko UD12 David Tua
Wlad isn't going to KO Tua
Mrboogie23
08-19-2007, 10:05 PM
I doubt wlad KOs Tua. Stoppage from excessive punishment by the ref or corner is a possibility but I doubt it.
Wlad would be tentative because he's a smart guy and knows that Tua hits HARD.
Mrboogie23
08-19-2007, 10:07 PM
Tua wouldnt have a chance in hell. Tua even in is prime was always heavy on his feet, and he hasnt gotten any better. Wlad woul just tatoo him all night with Jabs and right Hands anytime he tried to lunge in. Wlad coudl probably score a TKO if he really wanted to, maybe even a KO if he caught him good
Its possible but I doubt he KOs him. Tua has an iron chin. He's been blasted by HEAVY hitters and walked through them.
brooklyn1550
08-19-2007, 10:11 PM
maybe even a KO if he caught him good
One big punch isn't going to KO Tua
lenin
08-19-2007, 10:14 PM
this would be 10 times more onesided than klitschko/brewster 2
Mrboogie23
08-19-2007, 10:15 PM
He has, but he is older, and his chin might not be what it once was. And I dont imagine Wlad getting a KO by one punch, but Tua tiring and then getting cracked by a right hand when he lunges in trying to land something. If hr hit the floor I can see him struggling to get up anf getting counted out. His stamina was never the same after he gained all the weight, and he has taken alot of hard punches, even with the layoff
thats a different scenario. I can agree with that. Like I said, a ref stoppage from excessive punishment or the corner stepping in is possible. I doubt Wlad could actually put Tua to sleep though.
Andrey
08-19-2007, 10:17 PM
Why wouldn't Wlad stop Tua????
Easy in fact, Wlad would KO him with a jab. Obviously not the first one but after about 200th jab and 3 right hand David would have been through.
Andrey
Stinky gloves
08-19-2007, 10:17 PM
Tua wouldnt have a chance in hell. Tua even in is prime was always heavy on his feet, and he hasnt gotten any better. Wlad woul just tatoo him all night with Jabs and right Hands anytime he tried to lunge in. Wlad coudl probably score a TKO if he really wanted to, maybe even a KO if he caught him good
Tua catch Lewis with a few good shots, would Wlad be able to take them like a man?
brooklyn1550
08-19-2007, 10:17 PM
Why wouldn't Wlad stop Tua????
Easy in fact, Wlad would KO him with a jab. Obviously not the first one but after about 200th jab and 3 right hand David would have been through.
Andrey
:patsch
Heavyrighthand
08-19-2007, 10:23 PM
Wlad would do at least as well as Lewis did against Tua.
Stinky gloves
08-19-2007, 10:24 PM
It may play out like Wlad-Brewser II, just later in the fight.
Or it may play out like Brewster-Wlad I, just later in the fight :smoke
Heavyrighthand
08-19-2007, 10:30 PM
Or it may play out like Brewster-Wlad I, just later in the fight :smoke:lol:
Wlad by stoppage. I wouldn't bet on a KO, but a TKO is a the best option. At this stage, Tua is far too easy to hit for wlad, who would stay at length and pick him apart at that range.
Tua wouldn't have much chance. I think the ref or his corner stops it around 8.
a.arthur.h
08-19-2007, 10:50 PM
:patsch God damn..I get back from the plane and check the boards and ALREADY there is a Tua -vs- Wlad topic. Holy shit guys.
I'm a huge Tua supporter but lets be real here, Tua shouldn't go for Wlad just because he KO'd Saul Montana. I nearly fainted I was so overcome with joy, thinking "Tua's BACK!" but then I calmed down and put things in perspective.
Wlad wins a UD right now. (Forget about a KO its not going to happen. A TKO might happen if he was upwards of the 250's, he isn't anymore)
If Tua continues to come in at a lower weight each time he fights then he should challenge for one of the titles. NOT Wlad's. Tua needs to be under 230 and used to fighting at under 230 again before he even entertains the idea. This isn't just a matter of drain down, he needs to be comfortable at the weight. If he is, then I believe he can get in and catch Wlad.
People say how open he is and how easy he will be for Wlad to hit, just like Brewster. That may be true, but the difference is that Tua can walk through Wlad's shots and fuck him up with a left hook (This is assuming a comfortable 225ish Tua).
Until he is comfortably fighting at least 2 fights at 220-28, he shouldn't be anywhere near Wlad. All he can do is hope to get lucky and crack him if he was to fight him right now. He can't bet on getting lucky, he needs to be in condition and ready to go to the late rounds if need be.
andyZOR
08-19-2007, 10:54 PM
Tuas chin is strong. I doubt even Wlad could KO him.
Wlad UD.
Marnoff
08-19-2007, 11:19 PM
Klitschko would be my solid bet.
Stinky gloves
08-19-2007, 11:30 PM
Just on the other thread I've ask about comparison between Tua and Peter
in terms of chin, power, boxing skills and it seems Tua is much better overall.
So why do you guys think Tau will do much less than Peter against Wlad?
wlad is superman. i doubt tua has enough kryptonite to hurt him, even if he did hit him.
Stinky gloves
08-20-2007, 12:07 AM
wlad is superman. i doubt tua has enough kryptonite to hurt him, even if he did hit him.
I guess Sanders was Batman and Brewster Spiderman :huh
I CANT STAND WLAD AND I WOULD BE ROOTING 4 TUA....BUT WLAD WOULD STOP HIM ...:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke
KobeIsGod
08-20-2007, 12:22 AM
This is not the same tua who fought crazy ike. Poor conditioning, older, low punch output, no foot movement, no jab. This Tua stands in the pocket way too much. Peter had some success against wlad cause he bulled in and just threw hayemakers the whole fight and some landed.
This would look like Lewis-Tyson but even less competitive since Wlad will employ a lot of footwork. Ref stops it in round 6or7. Tua should go after the paper champs.
Decker
08-20-2007, 01:39 AM
Just on the other thread I've ask about comparison between Tua and Peter in terms of chin, power, boxing skills and it seems Tua is much better overall. Tua is much better than Peter??? Todays Tua? :huh I'll visit that topic for a few laughs.
So why do you guys think Tau will do much less than Peter against Wlad? Maybe because us guys don't agree that Tua is much better than Peter. :roll: I'm not sure if Tua is one bit better then Peter. Let Tua fight some stiffer comp before his fans start getting too carried away. Tua is improving, but he's wasted many years.
I voted Wlad UD. The odds of a Wlad KO are better than a Tua KO (Tua's only chance to win), but Wlad will play it safe like LL.
I guess Sanders was Batman and Brewster Spiderman :huh
wlad wasnt quite superman when sanders fought him...and spiderman is in a whole different universe. and if ya look close, lex was in sanders' corner
No way he stops him, but Id bet on a 120-108 scoreline.
dragosuhail
08-20-2007, 02:22 AM
already looking for another great hope, eh, stinky? :lol:
Stinky gloves
08-20-2007, 02:26 AM
already looking for another great hope, eh, stinky? :lol:
Oh, yest Wlad is great hope :good
Grabonator
08-20-2007, 02:34 AM
Its clear to me that most pick Wlad to win and Wlad would win but he never would knock Tua out. I cant stand why so manny pick Wlad to stop Tua. Tuas chin is even better than Peters, hes verry short and moves his head a bit it would be difficult for Wlad to hit Tua with his hardest shot but he would have no problems to outbox him since Tua would never reach Wlad.
Stinky gloves
08-20-2007, 02:50 AM
Its clear to me that most pick Wlad to win and Wlad would win but he never would knock Tua out. I cant stand why so manny pick Wlad to stop Tua. Tuas chin is even better than Peters, hes verry short and moves his head a bit it would be difficult for Wlad to hit Tua with his hardest shot but he would have no problems to outbox him since Tua would never reach Wlad.
Tua reached Lewis easily. IS Wlad so better than Lewis that Tua would never reach him?
Grabonator
08-20-2007, 03:11 AM
Tua reached Lewis easily. IS Wlad so better than Lewis that Tua would never reach him?
Did Tua hit Lewis ever clean with a powershot?? If he would, Lewis would have been KOed.
ripcity
08-20-2007, 03:16 AM
I have truble seeing any heaveyweight scean today beating Wlad Klitchko.
The Tuaman
08-20-2007, 03:16 AM
Yes Tua did hit Lewis with a power shot from memory it didnt land flush but was at the very end of round 2 it caught Lewis and had him stumbling back into the ropes the ref jumped in between them as Tua moved in as the bell for the end of the round rang. From that moment on Lewis jabbed and ran!
Tua could easily beat Wlad, Wlad only chance is to stay WAY outside and use his height and reach to jab and 1-2 Tua from the outside as Montana found out you dont want to stand in front and trade. With Tua's weight comming down and looking like he's slipping punches alot better whos to say he doesnt slip a lazy jab of right hand by klit late on the fight and land a big shot to end the fight? thing is with Tua at any moment from the 1st through to the last round of a fight hes dangerous ask Maskaev and Izon both guys who were winning fights against him before being bombed out late!
Im a Tua fan yes, but im also a realist, I'd be nervous about Tua fighting Wlad in his next 2/3 fights, but also semi comfortable knowing no matter what he still has the punch and intimidation over klit
RonnieHornschuh
08-20-2007, 09:10 AM
tua should go after maskaev or the other champs, not klitschko. klitschko would probably win by ud, but COULD (t)ko him - savon won by tko and if wlad really goes for it he can get him in big trouble. the first left hook maskaev catches - he will lay down like it's four in the morning.
MrSmall
08-20-2007, 09:53 AM
Wlad is so overrated.
Because he's big, can jab, and has a decent punch for a HW.
DamonD
08-20-2007, 10:19 AM
Did Tua hit Lewis ever clean with a powershot?? If he would, Lewis would have been KOed.
Uh...several actually, including two flush hooks in a row in the 6th. Dig around for barneyrub's video on Youtube, half-jokingly called "Lewis - Iron Chin" or something like that.
Anyway, Wlad UD12 all the way for me on this. Tua needs to show more than he has done...hoopula over a KO1 is all well and good, but it was only one fight ago he was struggling.
Wladimir has the perfect trainer and style to replicate what Lewis did, and would most definitely not be the kind of fighter, like Montana, that has to rely on brawling.
J_Roth
08-20-2007, 10:27 AM
Wlad by a wide ud. Tua has struggled with some really bad opponents. Wlad would have to watch the left hook and jab straight right to a ud.
People are getting a little to worked up about Tua right now there is a big difference in opposition he is facing more or less club fighters, wait till he steps up in opposition then it will be easy to judge.
Tua has a punchers chance against Wlad but I think he would be battered into a TKO loss if they fought...and please don't go on about Klits chin as does it really matter if you are fighting a guy like Tua who hits like a mule and knocks out anyone if he lands flush which a fighter and his team like Klitschko and Steward are aware of.
TanstA
08-20-2007, 11:22 AM
People are getting a little to worked up about Tua right now there is a big difference in opposition he is facing more or less club fighters, wait till he steps up in opposition then it will be easy to judge.
Tua has a punchers chance against Wlad but I think he would be battered into a TKO loss if they fought...and please don't go on about Klits chin as does it really matter if you are fighting a guy like Tua who hits like a mule and knocks out anyone if he lands flush which a fighter and his team like Klitschko and Steward are aware of.
well said sir'
:good
MrMagic
08-20-2007, 11:28 AM
Wladimir Klitschko UD12 David Tua
Wlad isn't going to KO Tua
Exactly, this will look much like the Lewis fight except Wlad holds Tua and locks him up when he is about to get inside.
Wlad can probably KO a fat out of shape Tua, but not this Tua.
I do think though, that Tua will taste one or two good right hands and start rolling on the outside like he did against LL... which is a shame, I'm questioning Tua's heart.. specially in the performance against LL, HE GAVE UP :-(
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