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Joan_Guzman
05-10-2011, 04:26 PM
How was Paris Hiltons Birthday party mate?
:lol: A lot of what I post is copy pastas from the misc. Naivity. :blurp A simple google search would tell you this.
Joan_Guzman
05-10-2011, 04:27 PM
Oh dear Christopher... are you in denial now? Backtracking on your bullshit?
I think you should see a doctor. Don't be surprised when he mentions delusions of grandeur.
4 lines and not one point made or argument presented. Why even bother. :patsch
djoc175
05-10-2011, 05:00 PM
I honestly dont think you'll get better than 11/8 for the stoppage come fight night.
The guys betting the odd 20 50 might put money on Haye, but the guys betting thousands(the smart money) will be on Wlad.
The price was 11/8 across the board a month back, its now in to 5/4 and less apart from sporting bet. Does anyone use this site?
I'll stick to the straights I think:good
Have you got money down already?
noonan
05-10-2011, 05:36 PM
On sky sports news just, they were showing the press conference and had odds scrolling along the side, ( I guess through sky bet) and it said 6-1 haye ko, this seems massive to me as it's his main chance of victory!
Joan_Guzman
05-10-2011, 05:37 PM
On sky sports news just, they were showing the press conference and had odds scrolling along the side, ( I guess through sky bet) and it said 6-1 haye ko, this seems massive to me as it's his main chance of victory!
Hes not winning no decision in Germany thats for sure. And he gases easily after 5. If your going for that bet do it early. Its his only hope. A hail mary punch.
TheUzi
05-10-2011, 05:42 PM
I'll stick to the straights I think:good
Have you got money down already?
No, not yet...
If it ends up at evens then i wont bother as i was planning on putting a fair bit on it.
Are sporting bet reliable, do they accept big bets?
WalletInspector
05-10-2011, 05:45 PM
On sky sports news just, they were showing the press conference and had odds scrolling along the side, ( I guess through sky bet) and it said 6-1 haye ko, this seems massive to me as it's his main chance of victory!
That's exact method of victory mate. Raised my eyebrows when I saw 5/2 (or something similar) for Haye to KO Harrison.
djoc175
05-10-2011, 05:49 PM
On sky sports news just, they were showing the press conference and had odds scrolling along the side, ( I guess through sky bet) and it said 6-1 haye ko, this seems massive to me as it's his main chance of victory!
Careful. That's EXACT method of victory so that's just KO not TKO etc. Consider Wladimir has never been KO'd by one punch. Most talk of his chin is bollocks to be honest.
No, not yet...
If it ends up at evens then i wont bother as i was planning on putting a fair bit on it.
Are sporting bet reliable, do they accept big bets?
Yes they're reliable but they have been known to limit accounts. You should be fine if it's your first bet with them.
noonan
05-10-2011, 05:50 PM
That's exact method of victory mate. Raised my eyebrows when I saw 5/2 (or something similar) for Haye to KO Harrison.
How do you mean 'exact'?
Haye ko any round? But exc tko?
WalletInspector
05-10-2011, 05:53 PM
How do you mean 'exact'?
Haye ko any round? But exc tko?
Yeah, just KO not TKO. :good
WalletInspector
05-11-2011, 01:14 PM
I like Sociedad at home to Zaragoza tonight at 6/4.
WalletInspector
05-11-2011, 05:48 PM
I like Sociedad at home to Zaragoza tonight at 6/4.
Just about... :blood
leo_messi
05-11-2011, 05:55 PM
of all teams to cost me money, its barcelona.
Had an Acc with Liverpool, Man City, Real MAdrid, Celtic and Barca and Barca go and fuck it up.......
Joan_Guzman
05-12-2011, 08:40 AM
Nadal getting close to evens for French after Djok beat him.
leo_messi
05-12-2011, 10:29 AM
put a whopping €2.17 on oscar Gatto to win todays stage of the Giro......Long shot
leo_messi
05-12-2011, 10:57 AM
had an opportunity to jump on vandrwalle there at 7/1 in running. I hesitated and now betting is suspended and he is 35 seconds ahead with 6km to go..
He is being caught though. It will be tight...
perspicacity
05-12-2011, 12:25 PM
I honestly dont think you'll get better than 11/8 for the stoppage come fight night.
The guys betting the odd 20 50 might put money on Haye, but the guys betting thousands(the smart money) will be on Wlad.
The price was 11/8 across the board a month back, its now in to 5/4 and less apart from sporting bet. Does anyone use this site?
If indeed the smart money goes on Wlad and the odds shorten further I might lump on a group of rounds. :good
Anyone have any tips on who'll win the Eurovision Song Contest? :D
leo_messi
05-12-2011, 12:31 PM
If indeed the smart money goes on Wlad and the odds shorten further I might lump on a group of rounds. :good
Anyone have any tips on who'll win the Eurovision Song Contest? :D
Jedward
:lol:
skel1983
05-12-2011, 12:38 PM
Havent had a flutter in ages, but feel a bit flush so these two look good.
Wade biggest checkout v Jenkins 8/11 darts
Almagro to beat Soderling 5/4. :good
perspicacity
05-12-2011, 01:05 PM
Jedward
:lol:
Met a mad gambler I knew today who has a few bob on Bosnia at 14's :lol:
Joan_Guzman
05-12-2011, 01:40 PM
Gasquet just beat Fed. 1.01 Majorly gubbed.
1.01 €306,934
1.02 €508,030
1.03 €92,160
1.04 €148,122
1.05 €65,568
1.06 €147,721
1.07 €218,224
1.08 €454,357
1.09 €459,976
1.10 €279,300
1.11 €551,614
1.12 €369,770
1.13 €327,820
1.14 €198,753
1.15 €205,505
1.16 €99,168
1.17 €59,291
1.18 €71,186
1.19 €63,891
1.20 €374,236
1.21 €461,409
1.22 €283,199
1.23 €103,971
number on right is money put on fed to win.
leo_messi
05-12-2011, 01:56 PM
He really is coming to the end.....
I cant see anymore than maybe one major title victory left in him.....
Beeston Brawler
05-13-2011, 04:03 AM
I've no idea why anybody would back something at 1.01.
It's a grand to win a tenner.
If you've got a grand's worth of tenners in your hand it's a pretty fat wedge, one more isn't going to make any difference.
If anything, I'd be tempted to just lay them and see what happens.... there were a few examples in the cricket world cup of 1.01's losing. England vs Ireland, South Africa to score 300 against India (270/3 then 296/6 with a couple of overs left) and Arsenal obviously vs Newcastle :lol:
As a general rule I don't touch anything below 1.5, not worth it.
leo_messi
05-13-2011, 07:11 AM
Desert Al 19.30 at dundalk..worth a sneaky fiver, available at 8/1
Joan_Guzman
05-13-2011, 07:41 AM
I've no idea why anybody would back something at 1.01.
It's a grand to win a tenner.
If you've got a grand's worth of tenners in your hand it's a pretty fat wedge, one more isn't going to make any difference.
If anything, I'd be tempted to just lay them and see what happens.... there were a few examples in the cricket world cup of 1.01's losing. England vs Ireland, South Africa to score 300 against India (270/3 then 296/6 with a couple of overs left) and Arsenal obviously vs Newcastle :lol:
As a general rule I don't touch anything below 1.5, not worth it.
Its crazy. You see it on every market. People automatically lay 1.01's and automatically back it. On every market. Just click money waiting to back or lay. Its like picking up pennis from under a steamroller. To think someone put up a£1,400 bet and won £140,000. Insane.
Beeston Brawler
05-13-2011, 07:50 AM
If I've got a bet on say a football match at say 2.5 and gets to 1.01, I'll lay it automatically.
The cost is next to nothing and I can watch in peace.
Maybe I'm missing a trick though. Say you've got £100 on a game at 2.5, it gets to 1.01, you can lay and guarantee a profit of about £145.
So you'd go from.....
Team A -£100
Team B + £150
Draw -£100
to
Team A +£145
Team B +£145
Draw +£145
Or, lay an extra £2k which would only cost you £20. If the score stays as is, you've still got £125, if the losing team scores there will be a switch in the odds and then you can either stick with it or lay them off even more.
i.e.
Team A +£2000
Team B +£125
Draw +£2000
If team A score, you can then put £1000 on team B at whatever the odds and nail a couple of hundred extra.
So you'd be....
Team A +£1000
Team B +£125 (plus 1000*the odds)
Draw +£1000
Worth a try. There's not much difference between £125 & £145 is there, still a win after all.
jimcox88
05-13-2011, 08:07 AM
Anyone on the horses today?
leo_messi
05-13-2011, 08:08 AM
Anyone on the horses today?
I have a 'tip' on the previous page.
daveyboy1609
05-13-2011, 08:24 AM
I'm feeling for the Klitschko Haye fight - Wlad 7-12 at 10/3.
Joan_Guzman
05-13-2011, 08:25 AM
If I've got a bet on say a football match at say 2.5 and gets to 1.01, I'll lay it automatically.
The cost is next to nothing and I can watch in peace.
Maybe I'm missing a trick though. Say you've got £100 on a game at 2.5, it gets to 1.01, you can lay and guarantee a profit of about £145.
So you'd go from.....
Team A -£100
Team B + £150
Draw -£100
to
Team A +£145
Team B +£145
Draw +£145
Or, lay an extra £2k which would only cost you £20. If the score stays as is, you've still got £125, if the losing team scores there will be a switch in the odds and then you can either stick with it or lay them off even more.
i.e.
Team A +£2000
Team B +£125
Draw +£2000
If team A score, you can then put £1000 on team B at whatever the odds and nail a couple of hundred extra.
So you'd be....
Team A +£1000
Team B +£125 (plus 1000*the odds)
Draw +£1000
Worth a try. There's not much difference between £125 & £145 is there, still a win after all.
I did try a system similar to this last year with womens tennis. Which is the most ridiculous sport imaginable. So many chokers and being on serve means nothing every point is practically a clay court point. Of course its rare a 1.01 every occurs in womens tennis you are laying at 1.2-1.1 serving for a match which after a few months is too much to be trading at. Very small edge in trading that way.
It is a nice idea but if you lay every single bet off like that and they all lose it will add up. Just waiting for that one big payoff.
jimcox88
05-13-2011, 09:03 AM
I have a 'tip' on the previous page.
sorry but after the performance of your last tip ill not be following suit haha
punchdrunkgench
05-13-2011, 11:56 AM
wakefield plus 6 on hcap against crusaders seems a good bet tonight
Beeston Brawler
05-13-2011, 12:39 PM
Yeah, I'd run with Wakefield tonight.
Stay away from Leeds though.
skel1983
05-13-2011, 01:26 PM
Arron 11/2 on points looks a decent bet to me.
leo_messi
05-13-2011, 01:28 PM
Arron 11/2 on points looks a decent bet to me.
was actually thinking that myself..
I dont know enough about sam webb though
Beeston Brawler
05-13-2011, 01:31 PM
Webb is alright but he's nothing special at all...... it's not to be missed IMO.
skel1983
05-13-2011, 01:36 PM
was actually thinking that myself..
I dont know enough about sam webb though
Only question for me is Arron doing 12 if he can do the 12 I think it is a cracking bet.
perspicacity
05-13-2011, 01:57 PM
I'm on this £10 acca tomorrow, get a 10% bonus if it comes up.
WBA 13/8
Blackpool 6/5
M City 5/6
Torquay 13/10
Also got a free £5 bet on a goals,goals,goals at Coral for my tenner acca
M City 1/1
Sunderland 5/6
Bournemouth 4/5
Torquay 5/6
Hamilton 4/5
leo_messi
05-13-2011, 02:02 PM
right went for Aaron on points or decision at 5/1...
Tomoki Kameda
05-13-2011, 02:50 PM
11/2 on Arron is a decent price
Any reason not to lump on a Ward UD at 4/6 with the usual saver on a TD?
Tomoki Kameda
perspicacity
05-13-2011, 06:56 PM
Feeling it for you guys who had Aaron on points, unbelievable, how Webb came back to survive that beating and then just when the finishing line is in sight it all took it's toll. Unlucky as fuck lads.
skel1983
05-13-2011, 07:11 PM
Feeling it for you guys who had Aaron on points, unbelievable, how Webb came back to survive that beating and then just when the finishing line is in sight it all took it's toll. Unlucky as fuck lads.
My own fault really trying to be greedy, should of just gone for the win 10/3 was a cracking price aswell.
perspicacity
05-13-2011, 07:21 PM
My own fault really trying to be greedy, should of just gone for the win 10/3 was a cracking price aswell.
Yep, great tip and unlucky as fuck not to get the points win, same luck as me, hopefully we will cane the bookies tomorrrow on the footie! :thumbsup
ShaneTheSherrif
05-13-2011, 07:23 PM
My own fault really trying to be greedy, should of just gone for the win 10/3 was a cracking price aswell.
I was kicking myself for not just playing it safe. I was extremely confident of an Arron win, just expected it to go the distance:-(
Oh well!
jim holton
05-14-2011, 07:15 AM
over 1.5 cards for blackburn @ 4/5 bet365. Wagered this accordingly at 5/6 but those odds are still well handsome. The ref has covered that in all four of his Rovers games this season. Salgado has nani to contend with and dowd has booked him in 3 of 4, 9/5 worth a punt as would be jones if starting.
perspicacity
05-14-2011, 10:18 AM
Salgado booked for dissent, Rovers with 3 yellows :thumbsup
jim holton
05-14-2011, 10:36 AM
over 1.5 cards for blackburn @ 4/5 bet365. Wagered this accordingly at 5/6 but those odds are still well handsome. The ref has covered that in all four of his Rovers games this season. Salgado has nani to contend with and dowd has booked him in 3 of 4, 9/5 worth a punt as would be jones if starting.
3 from 3
over the moon brian:rasta
perspicacity
05-14-2011, 11:57 AM
I'm on this £10 acca tomorrow, get a 10% bonus if it comes up.
WBA 13/8
Blackpool 6/5
M City 5/6
Torquay 13/10
Also got a free £5 bet on a goals,goals,goals at Coral for my tenner acca
M City 1/1
Sunderland 5/6
Bournemouth 4/5
Torquay 5/6
Hamilton 4/5
Waiting on Torquay for my acca,...... my goals,goals,goals bet got beaten by the 1-0 City scoreline. In hindsight I should've avoided the F.A Cup Final and stuck to League mtaches with that one.
Edit - 2-0 Torquay HT ...
perspicacity
05-14-2011, 11:59 AM
3 from 3
over the moon brian:rasta
Which Jones though ??? :huh :yep
53 and counting
05-14-2011, 02:22 PM
Waiting on Torquay for my acca,...... my goals,goals,goals bet got beaten by the 1-0 City scoreline. In hindsight I should've avoided the F.A Cup Final and stuck to League mtaches with that one.
Edit - 2-0 Torquay HT ...
Looking good :good Fucking Mumbai in the cricket fucked my accy. 1/80 in running and get turned over. Backed Silva 1st goal today at 9/1 and he misses a sitter and then a 1 on 1 he fucks up too. Backed Kaymer today @ 35 for the players championship and have a few quid ante post on the gers that i will hopefully be picking up on monday morning though.
perspicacity
05-14-2011, 03:17 PM
Looking good :good Fucking Mumbai in the cricket fucked my accy. 1/80 in running and get turned over. Backed Silva 1st goal today at 9/1 and he misses a sitter and then a 1 on 1 he fucks up too. Backed Kaymer today @ 35 for the players championship and have a few quid ante post on the gers that i will hopefully be picking up on monday morning though.
Silva shoulda scored m8, unlucky darts! I know hee-haw about cricket so don't know what you're on about with that one :lol:
It's squeaky bum time for Rangers tomorrow, no excuses though, "Helicopter Sunday" has a few of my Rangers mates bottling it just now :scaredas:, good luck m8, I like Kaymer too, might look into that one.
Think I got about 26/1 for my tenner acca, happy with that .... man city done me for my both teams to score free fiver bet, that'd of been another ton can't win em all
Probably do an acca tomorrow :smoke
53 and counting
05-14-2011, 03:41 PM
Stuck a score on Murray at 7/2 1 set down and 5-2 up in the 2nd, Djokovic is on a monster roll but this is value in what should be a 1 set shootout.
perspicacity
05-14-2011, 08:13 PM
Anyone see any value in Sundays footie?
jim holton
05-15-2011, 07:11 AM
Which Jones though ??? :huh :yep
The Jones boy that averages more than one card in every two games mate. 8 from 14 games since landing at Ewood. :yep He's a card magnet, and was exactly the same playing in germany.
As for phil jones, he looks a crackin' prospect. Expect a top 6 outfit to snaffle him anytime soon.
Got a couple of rugby league and prem wagers lined up for later.
Good shout with the accy, persps. :good
WalletInspector
05-15-2011, 07:29 AM
Got a couple of rugby league and prem wagers lined up for later.
What you having, Jim? :think
perspicacity
05-15-2011, 07:29 AM
The Jones boy that averages more than one card in every two games mate. 8 from 14 games since landing at Ewood. :yep He's a card magnet, and was exactly the same playing in germany.
As for phil jones, he looks a crackin' prospect. Expect a top 6 outfit to snaffle him anytime soon.
Got a couple of rugby league and prem wagers lined up for later.
Good shout with the accy, persps. :good
Yep, Jermaine Jones was a good shout m8 :rasta
Phil Jones has been in and out my Fantasy Football team this year, the potential is there with him :good
Went with these lot today
Blues
Stevenage
Wigan
Liverpool
jim holton
05-15-2011, 07:58 AM
What you having, Jim? :think
Waiting on a bit of team news in the rugby lower leagues. If it pans out and i'm around i'll put 'em up here.
A purely value standout shout is the 5/2 corals offer for 46+ booking points at The DW. The spreads have this pitched @ 52 and the nb fixed odds is 5/6 which is the truer guide.
A do or die relegation dogfight with a strict ref in Dean. He has a the feel of being an anti-'Ammer' does this pokerfaced fuck, having handed out 13 cards to west ham players from 4 aways. Over 2.5 whu cards is 2.0 and i'm having a tickle of that too.
WalletInspector
05-15-2011, 08:49 AM
You can get 6/4 on Andy Lee stopping Alex Bunema on Wednesday. Bunema hasn't fought in 2 years and wasn't in great form before that.
perspicacity
05-15-2011, 01:31 PM
Ah well, my acca got shafted today, might have some of that Lee bet Wallet :good
WalletInspector
05-15-2011, 01:43 PM
I've had a few quid on small heath to stay up at about evens. Win-win situation.
perspicacity
05-15-2011, 01:50 PM
I've had a few quid on small heath to stay up at about evens. Win-win situation.
:lol:
leo_messi
05-15-2011, 02:22 PM
Can believe that Prince aaron fight the other night.
Only 1minute 20 to survive and i would of got paid.
I also tipped oscar gatto to win stage 6 of the giro d'italia and he goes and wins stage 7..
not my week for betting
Although that horse tip came in on Friday
djoc175
05-16-2011, 08:58 AM
Fancy Swansea strongly this evening. 20/21 is decent for the team who had the strongest home form over the 46 games. Forest missed their chance last week vs 10 men at home.
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 09:12 AM
You can get 6/4 on Andy Lee stopping Alex Bunema on Wednesday. Bunema hasn't fought in 2 years and wasn't in great form before that.
Yeah, I might have some of that myself.
I've had a few quid on small heath to stay up at about evens. Win-win situation.
:lol: Not sure what to make of that.
Obviously West Ham are gone, Blackpool aren't getting fuck all at Old Trafford.... Wigan would do well to get a point at Stoke, but I can't see Birmingham getting anything at Spurs, even though they've fallen to bits since Madrid.
Can believe that Prince aaron fight the other night.
Only 1minute 20 to survive and i would of got paid.
I also tipped oscar gatto to win stage 6 of the giro d'italia and he goes and wins stage 7..
not my week for betting
Although that horse tip came in on Friday
I was pissed off about that myself.
I had an alright week, I backed Newcastle to get a point at Chelsea and laid off at 1-1, backed the draw at Wigan vs West Ham and laid off at 2-2 and BTS in the Man Utd/Blackburn game.... but had Liverpool to draw with Spurs which pegged me back a bit.
Still a decent return for not much stress.
Fancy Swansea strongly this evening. 20/21 is decent for the team who had the strongest home form over the 46 games. Forest missed their chance last week vs 10 men at home.
Me too.
Forest are going to have to attack Swansea which will play into their hands. If Forest make it through to Wembley I'd be very impressed.
WalletInspector
05-16-2011, 09:26 AM
I reckon both small heath and Wigan will get draws meaning the shit will stay up. It's mainly due to the win-win factor though. :D
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 09:36 AM
What you put on it?
WalletInspector
05-16-2011, 09:41 AM
About £50 I think it was.
Had a good weekend with the Ward fight so not too fussed.
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 09:46 AM
I left the Ward fight alone, wouldn't have surprised me to have seen a late stoppage.... maybe by the corner.
Gonna have a good bet on Hopkins by decision this week I think.
WalletInspector
05-16-2011, 09:52 AM
I left the Ward fight alone, wouldn't have surprised me to have seen a late stoppage.... maybe by the corner.
Gonna have a good bet on Hopkins by decision this week I think.
Yeah 2/1 is a cracking price for it I think... even if Hopkins is saying it's going to be like Griffith-Paret. :scaredas:
15/4 for DeGale decision ain't bad either. :think
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 09:59 AM
Yeah, 15/4 is worth a punt, if I do alright on the playoff second legs I might have £100 on that.
DeGale obviously isn't a big puncher and will be more wary of Groves than he was of Smith. My biggest concern with this bet is the amount of energy that Groves wastes.... if DeGale starts putting the pressure on he could get him out of there in the late rounds.
Could always cover it with a small bet on Degale 7-12 at 5/2?
leo_messi
05-16-2011, 10:09 AM
went with swansea myself tonight....Dont think Forrest have it in them to beat swansea..
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 10:24 AM
Draw/Swansea is 9/2 in the HT/FT market.
I can see Forest sitting back trying to keep the game tight in the first half and frustrating Swansea.
leo_messi
05-16-2011, 10:30 AM
Draw/Swansea is 9/2 in the HT/FT market.
I can see Forest sitting back trying to keep the game tight in the first half and frustrating Swansea.
I hate doing those HT/FT bets, I find them too hard to predict....
After losing out in the Prince Aaron fight by getting greedy I think i'm just gonna stick to straight bets(no homo) for a while....
PrideOfWales
05-16-2011, 10:31 AM
Cardiff-Reading second leg. Best bet is draw after 90 minutes.
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 10:36 AM
Is it straight to penalties after 90 minutes or ET?
I can see Cardiff being really nervous in this one and a bit weary about opening up because Reading will punish them.
The whacking that Middlesbrough gave them will be in the back of their minds I feel. It was cringeworthy stuff.
You can get 10/1 on both sides to win on pens, back both and you're looking at 9/2 for either side doing it.
djoc175
05-16-2011, 10:39 AM
Paddy Power are giving 2/1 on Reading to qualify in normal time. Does that means a Reading win or a score draw = 2/1?
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 10:46 AM
Away goals must count then.....
WalletInspector
05-16-2011, 10:48 AM
I don't think away goals count.
djoc175
05-16-2011, 10:50 AM
Or maybe they don't after 90 mins but do after 120? Have to look it up.
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 10:53 AM
I would before betting on that.
I think it's a shit rule anyway, hopefully they don't count.
leo_messi
05-16-2011, 10:58 AM
away goals only count in extra time....
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 11:02 AM
That's not fair at all :lol:
So if you play away first and draw 2-2, then 0-0 after 90 at home and it goes to ET.... then each team scores once who goes through? Or if each team scores twice?
That gives the away team in the second leg an extra 30 minutes to score, when being at home second is supposed to be an advantage :roll:
If anything it should count after 90 mins, then ET should be a straight 30 mins without.
leo_messi
05-16-2011, 11:29 AM
That's not fair at all :lol:
So if you play away first and draw 2-2, then 0-0 after 90 at home and it goes to ET.... then each team scores once who goes through? Or if each team scores twice?
That gives the away team in the second leg an extra 30 minutes to score, when being at home second is supposed to be an advantage :roll:
If anything it should count after 90 mins, then ET should be a straight 30 mins without.
yeah seems silly.
Dont the team who finish higher in the league get to play at home second though, so maybe its their 'reward' for finishing higher in the league in the first place.....
Beeston Brawler
05-16-2011, 12:17 PM
Yeah, the two higher teams in the four play at home second.
In our playoff campaigns we've been at home first twice and qualified, and at home second once and been beaten.
The two times we've qualified though we've been turned over at home and played against teams set up to defend, which suited us.
I'd rather play at home first all things considered, hopefully get a score on the board and make the other team do something special on their own ground under pressure. I'd rather take a 1-0 lead away than have to chase one at home.
If they want to give teams an advantage why not make it a three team playoff, highest ranking side goes straight into the final and the next two play a one off game at the higher team's ground. That way there's no dead games in the regular season.
PrideOfWales
05-16-2011, 03:16 PM
Swansea 1-0 up after 30 mins.
PrideOfWales
05-16-2011, 03:19 PM
Swansea 2-0 up after 32 mins.
WalletInspector
05-16-2011, 03:20 PM
My pick for the play offs looking good :blurp
leo_messi
05-16-2011, 05:00 PM
tight at the end there....
53 and counting
05-16-2011, 05:04 PM
My pick for the play offs looking good :blurp
Swansea vs Cardiff at Wembley for all the marbles one time please!:blurp
Beeston Brawler
05-17-2011, 05:07 AM
I think there's plenty of value on offer on various markets this week..... a quick round up:
DeGale by decision - varies between 7/2 and 4/1
Braehmer by KO/TKO - best priced 9/2. Hills have this at 10/3 :-(
Hopkins win - best priced 6/4. Decision is only 2/1 :think
Dawson by decision - best priced 4/6. Diaconu is a safe choice but has taken Pascal the distance x2
Cardiff and Reading draw - 12/5
Wakefield to beat Castleford - only one bookie showing right now, 11/10
Also if you fancy winning yourself a free bet shove a lump on Huddersfield to beat Catalans at 2/7.
Huddersfield Town are 3/1 to draw with Bournemouth :think
leo_messi
05-17-2011, 05:41 AM
Are the Catalans really that shit?
djoc175
05-17-2011, 05:46 AM
I'd be surprised if Huddersfield couldn't get the job done vs Bournemouth. They finished way out in front of the other play-off sides and haven't lost since January and that was vs Arsenal! Impressive stat.
Beeston Brawler
05-17-2011, 05:50 AM
Are the Catalans really that shit?
They're average.... nothing special.
Huddersfield are on fire at the minute, they made St. Helens look very average last week and gave us a tanking only a couple of weeks ago.
On home soil too....
I'd be surprised if Huddersfield couldn't get the job done vs Bournemouth. They finished way out in front of the other play-off sides and haven't lost since January and that was vs Arsenal! Impressive stat.
Really?
Fucking hell :lol:
Seen much of Bournemouth?
leo_messi
05-17-2011, 05:58 AM
I'm definitely tempted by Mark Cavendish in todays stage of the Giro...
My only concern was him limping over the line in last place on the last stage on Sunday, just about making the cut off time. I dont know how much that has taken out of him....
djoc175
05-17-2011, 06:17 AM
Really?
Fucking hell :lol:
Seen much of Bournemouth?
I haven't been following League One as closely as I have in the past to be honest so I'll probably stick to live betting in this game if anything even though Huddersfield look clear favourites on paper.
Beeston Brawler
05-17-2011, 07:47 AM
Yeah, I'll probably so the same.
Another value bet.... Chavez jr is 8/15 to beat Zbik.
leo_messi
05-17-2011, 11:29 AM
I'm definitely tempted by Mark Cavendish in todays stage of the Giro...
My only concern was him limping over the line in last place on the last stage on Sunday, just about making the cut off time. I dont know how much that has taken out of him....
Good man Cav, like taking candy from a baby...
Superstar stuff!!
jim holton
05-17-2011, 12:52 PM
Fancy Swansea strongly this evening. 20/21 is decent for the team who had the strongest home form over the 46 games. Forest missed their chance last week vs 10 men at home.
good stuff :good
sidthehat
05-17-2011, 12:56 PM
I've got DeGale decision (too big), Lebedev KO and Braehmer win in treble. Pays 20/1
53 and counting
05-19-2011, 11:05 AM
7/2 on the Bomber :think
WalletInspector
05-19-2011, 11:09 AM
I wouldn't bother mate.
BarraBod
05-19-2011, 11:11 AM
I put my money on a DeGale UD, but started to regert it so I've put money on rounds 7-9 and 10-12, I will win more if it goes all the way tho so fingers crossed!
WalletInspector
05-19-2011, 11:24 AM
I put my money on a DeGale UD, but started to regert it so I've put money on rounds 7-9 and 10-12, I will win more if it goes all the way tho so fingers crossed!
There's definitely a bit of value in the Decision.
I like Hopkins this weekend. 8/5 on betfair for the outright which I will probably go with.
wrimc
05-19-2011, 11:27 AM
There's definitely a bit of value in the Decision.
I like Hopkins this weekend. 8/5 on betfair for the outright which I will probably go with.
Im thinking of doubling that up with a Degale win outright just for extra value:think
WalletInspector
05-19-2011, 11:32 AM
Im thinking of doubling that up with a Degale win outright just for extra value:think
I'm fairly convinced DeGale will win but at 1/3 or less I'm not sure it's worth it.
leo_messi
05-19-2011, 12:04 PM
Another winner or Cavendish today....
Degale by stoppage though I want Groves to win thats were my money would go. Pascal to get a razor thin points win. Lebedev in 4. Clevely stoppage in 5 to 6. Dawson to stop Diacoun in 5 to 8. Probably wont bet on all of them though.
Beeston Brawler
05-19-2011, 12:53 PM
Hopkins, Cleverly and DeGale all on points is 50/1.
Gotta be worth £20.
53 and counting
05-19-2011, 12:56 PM
Hopkins, Cleverly and DeGale all on points is 50/1.
Gotta be worth £20.
Who with?
Beeston Brawler
05-19-2011, 01:05 PM
Betfred.
To be honest they're all above 40/1.
You can add Dawson by decision at 4/6 to make it 80's with Stan James. Some bookies haven't got markets up on method of victory in this fight or Clev vs Bomber. Of the bookies that have priced all four the lowest is 70/1.
wrimc
05-19-2011, 01:07 PM
Betfred.
To be honest they're all above 40/1.
You can add Dawson by decision at 4/6 to make it 80's with Stan James. Some bookies haven't got markets up on method of victory in this fight or Clev vs Bomber. Of the bookies that have priced all four the lowest is 70/1.
There is a definitely a multiple out there this weekend that will earn somebody a wedge. Just trying to pin it down :think
craigseventy
05-19-2011, 01:19 PM
sod it, put some on cleverly, degale, hopkins decision @ 41/1
also same bet as last time for me pascal inside 12 7/2.
BarraBod
05-19-2011, 01:24 PM
If I win the DeGale bet I'm going to use my winning to bet on a Hopkins UD, If i don't win it I'll prob still put the bet on :P
leo_messi
05-19-2011, 02:53 PM
Hopkins, Cleverly and DeGale all on points is 50/1.
Gotta be worth £20.
I went with Degale to win by any method, Hopkins to win on points, Cleverly to win on points.
€5 gets me back €72
Flexe
05-19-2011, 03:07 PM
Degale outright
Cleverly inside 12 rounds any method
Dawson outright
Hopkins by points
10 returns 70.
Only Hopkins i'm worried about. I'm pretty sure Cleverly will stop Bellew, as he'll be gasping for air by the 6'th.
Defiantly very winnable bet.
djoc175
05-19-2011, 10:07 PM
I can't really ignore the 8/13 available for United vs Blackpool despite the circumstances. Massively tempting.
leo_messi
05-20-2011, 05:16 AM
Went with Pozzovivo (40/1) and Sella (16/1) both e/w in todays stage of the giro...
jim holton
05-20-2011, 05:29 AM
I can't really ignore the 8/13 available for United vs Blackpool despite the circumstances. Massively tempting.
Very very rare to get Utd at those odds at home. A so called 2nd team will be on duty, but they demolished a (admittedly piss poor) Schalke outfit, amongst others.
Rooney is asking to play, so don't be surprised if he does or takes part in some of the game...those odds will disappear if so. No Fergie team rests on it's laurels, and Berbvatov etc will be starters without a doubt.
Should be goals in this, as the tangerines' defence has chuckle brothers quality about it, but going forward they can score against anyone.
skel1983
05-20-2011, 05:30 AM
I can't really ignore the 8/13 available for United vs Blackpool despite the circumstances. Massively tempting.
Great bet mate, I am all over it.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 05:33 AM
To me there's no need to rest anybody.
Blackpool at home is an ideal ''tune-up'' for Barcelona. They've got something to play for, but they aren't that good.
I'd have all the big guns either starting or on the bench, I wouldn't want to go into the CL final with all my best players having had two weeks off.
Plus Fergie won't want a repeat of the criticism he got for throwing *cough* sorry not picking his best team for the West Ham game a couple of years ago. It's not worth it.
jim holton
05-20-2011, 05:43 AM
To me there's no need to rest anybody.
Blackpool at home is an ideal ''tune-up'' for Barcelona. They've got something to play for, but they aren't that good.
I'd have all the big guns either starting or on the bench, I wouldn't want to go into the CL final with all my best players having had two weeks off.
Plus Fergie won't want a repeat of the criticism he got for throwing *cough* sorry not picking his best team for the West Ham game a couple of years ago. It's not worth it.
Fergie won't give a monkeys about the FA, and why should he? He played a 2nd string at Hull last year on the last day, and won 1-0. Not worth taking chances in such a high tempo game and two weeks is fuck all after such a long season.
Vidic, ferdinand, Evra, Van der Sar? Carrick, deffo won't play, possibly one of Nani/Valencia will get minutes and Berbatov. As i say Rooney would be the odds crasher if he's named.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 05:54 AM
Were they in the Champion's League final that year?
I'm not sure :think
Each to their own.... but I'd want at least six or seven of them to get 60 minutes under their belt before Saturday. I mean, I wouldn't have Carrick in the side for Barca because I don't rate him....
My side for Sunday would look something like...
VDS
O'Shea
Evra
Vidic/Ferdinand
Evans
Scholes (because he shouldn't be within a million miles of Barca!)
Carrick
Park
Nani
Berbatov
Rooney
Rooney is the sort that needs to play every week, if he's in and out of the side he loses his rhythm, which has taken him a year to get back. VDS should be a cert, against a better side than Blackburn they'd have been turned over last week because of that clown in goal.
jim holton
05-20-2011, 06:07 AM
The only way VDS plays, is if Fergie lets him takes the plaudits with it being his last game at Old Trafford. Otherwise, the guy needs wrapping in cotton wool. This game has no meaning why take the risk?
Same with other VIP's. Rio's always carrying a knock so he won't be playing, neither will vidic and Park. Carrick will play at wembley, he's served the team well in his current position in the latter stages of the season.
Can't see the relevance of last year European cup final. The fact that there in it this year, gives the importance of playing a weaker side, as they did last year.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 06:11 AM
You were the one who raised the point about them playing a weakened side against Hull, not me :D
I suppose it depends on the state the players are in, but if it were me I'd rather have a group primed and ready to go than players that have been kicking their heels for two weeks.
Each to their own :good
jim holton
05-20-2011, 06:23 AM
Playing safe mid table visiters, i could see half the 1st team playing. But not v a side fighting for their lives AND with Charlie Adam in it. This guy is filth.
Reckon Ferguson knows the script about cup finals preperations to be fair. There's a testimonial on tuesdayy also, maybe a kickabout for some other first teamers?
Keep tabs on that 8/13 if Rooney gets his wish.
Grant1
05-20-2011, 06:25 AM
Blackpool at home is an ideal ''tune-up'' for Barcelona.
You Leeds fans are bonkers ;)
skel1983
05-20-2011, 06:25 AM
Fergie won't give a monkeys about the FA, and why should he? He played a 2nd string at Hull last year on the last day, and won 1-0. Not worth taking chances in such a high tempo game and two weeks is fuck all after such a long season.
Vidic, ferdinand, Evra, Van der Sar? Carrick, deffo won't play, possibly one of Nani/Valencia will get minutes and Berbatov. As i say Rooney would be the odds crasher if he's named.
Fergie has said
VDS
Evra
Anderson
Scholes
Berbatov
will play, Blackpool are shit United will smash them.
Flexe
05-20-2011, 06:28 AM
I'd rather put money on Spurs to beat B'Ham. I think Man utd - blackpool is a dodgy game!!
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 06:29 AM
Playing safe mid table visiters, i could see half the 1st team playing. But not v a side fighting for their lives AND with Charlie Adam in it. This guy is filth.
Reckon Ferguson knows the script about cup finals preperations to be fair. There's a testimonial on tuesdayy also, maybe a kickabout for some other first teamers?
Keep tabs on that 8/13 if Rooney gets his wish.
I dunno, you can have bad tackles in any game to be honest.
As I say, it's only my opinion and you are entitled to disagree with it.... Fergie knows what he's doing of course.
You Leeds fans are bonkers ;)
:lol:
I didn't mean in terms of how good they are! I mean they're one of few teams that will go to Old Trafford and actually try and win (mainly because they have to!)
Nice little run out methinks.
Fergie has said
VDS
Evra
Anderson
Scholes
Berbatov
will play, Blackpool are shit United will smash them.
:thumbsup
jim holton
05-20-2011, 06:30 AM
Fergie has said
VDS
Evra
Anderson
Scholes
Berbatov
will play, Blackpool are shit United will smash them.
Thats at the most, two champions league final starters then.
End to end this'll be.
skel1983
05-20-2011, 06:31 AM
I'd rather put money on Spurs to beat B'Ham. I think Man utd - blackpool is a dodgy game!!
Yes Spurs are a punters dream :roll:. What is it 2 wins in 16 games?
United v Blackpool is like buying money, did anyone see them at home v Bolton? Yes the same Bolton who have one of the worst away records in the league, Bolton should of scored 10. I can't believe the price on United easy money. :good
Everyone can say but Blackpool need to win they only needed to win 1/2 more games for the last 5 months but they couldnt they are shite.
skel1983
05-20-2011, 06:33 AM
VDS
O Shea
Smalling
Evans
Evra
Oberton
Scholes
Anderson
Fletcher
Berbatov
Owen
That team has too much for Blackpool
WalletInspector
05-20-2011, 06:34 AM
Gavin is 4/7 to stop Mutley on SportingBet.
jim holton
05-20-2011, 06:49 AM
Yes Spurs are a punters dream :roll:. What is it 2 wins in 16 games?
United v Blackpool is like buying money, did anyone see them at home v Bolton? Yes the same Bolton who have one of the worst away records in the league, Bolton should of scored 10. I can't believe the price on United easy money. :good
Everyone can say but Blackpool need to win they only needed to win 1/2 more games for the last 5 months but they couldnt they are shite.
Why not play the over 3.5 goals at 11/8?
If the smashing arrives luvly jubbly at better odds, with any blackpool goal a bonus.
Berbatov to score/Utd win at 7/4 looks tasty. He's scored 16 goals at old trafford, thats one in two games, including in the last 3 .
He's neck and neck with tevez for golden boot, so expect him to handed peno duties too.
punchdrunkgench
05-20-2011, 06:55 AM
Why not play the over 3.5 goals at 11/8?
If the smashing arrives luvly jubbly at better odds, with any blackpool goal a bonus.
Berbatov to score/Utd win at 7/4 looks tasty. He's scored 16 goals at old trafford, thats one in two games, including in the last 3 .
He's neck and neck with tevez for golden boot, so expect him to handed peno duties too.
berbatove is the bet here he is 7/2 with betfred to score first and is he scores again they double it and if he scores a hat trick they treble it so in theory you can get £180 IF HE SCORES FIRST AND SCORES AGAIN NOT BAD FOR A SCORE
jim holton
05-20-2011, 06:56 AM
Gavin is 4/7 to stop Mutley on SportingBet.
Crackin odds, severly limited with those lightweights though.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 06:56 AM
Gavin is 4/7 to stop Mutley on SportingBet.
:yikes
Lomax is a better fighter than Mutley too......
Flexe
05-20-2011, 07:42 AM
Yes Spurs are a punters dream :roll:. What is it 2 wins in 16 games?
United v Blackpool is like buying money, did anyone see them at home v Bolton? Yes the same Bolton who have one of the worst away records in the league, Bolton should of scored 10. I can't believe the price on United easy money. :good
Everyone can say but Blackpool need to win they only needed to win 1/2 more games for the last 5 months but they couldnt they are shite.
Blackpool scraping a draw isn't out of question me thinks.
Spurs haven't been beaten in 16 home games and B'Ham are abysmal at the moment.
To be fair, a Utd & Spurs double is probably the bet for the weekend, can't see either of them losing.
Easy money...
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 07:47 AM
A lot of the games seem tempting to go for the draw.
Villa vs Liverpool
Fulham vs Arsenal
Newcastle vs WBA
Spurs vs Birmingham
West Ham vs Sunderland
and maybe Stoke/Wigan and Wolves/Blackburn too.
All between 5/2 and 3/1, apart from 7/2 for Spurs/Brum.
WalletInspector
05-20-2011, 07:53 AM
I've had a few quid on Lebedev at 1/4. Short money I know but I really don't give him a chance.
MagicMan91
05-20-2011, 07:55 AM
I've had a few quid on Lebedev at 1/4. Short money I know but I really don't give him a chance.
May as well have gone for the stoppage tbh. Obviously a bit more risky but Roy's not really gonna survive for long.
WalletInspector
05-20-2011, 07:56 AM
May as well have gone for the stoppage tbh. Obviously a bit more risky but Roy's not really gonna survive for long.
Yeah I was thinking that... oh well...
MagicMan91
05-20-2011, 07:56 AM
Lebedev and Gavin stoppage double :think
WalletInspector
05-20-2011, 07:59 AM
Lebedev and Gavin stoppage double :think
:yep
Flexe
05-20-2011, 07:59 AM
Lebedev and Gavin stoppage double :think
Add Degale in the scheduled distance and you're good to go :good
MagicMan91
05-20-2011, 08:07 AM
Alexander Petkovic v Joseph Marwa
Method Of Victory
Alexander Petkovic by KO,TKO or DQ
4/7
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
Frankie Gavin v Young Mutley
Method Of Victory
Frankie Gavin by KO,TKO or DQ
4/7
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
Denis Lebedev v Roy Jones
Method Of Victory
Lebedev by KO, TKO or DQ
1/2
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
Jean Pascal v Bernard Hopkins
Fight Winner
Bernard Hopkins
4/3
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
James DeGale v George Groves
Method Of Victory
DeGale by KO, TKO or DQ
I always get so fucking greedy on Boxing.... £10 returns £124. Might have that and £30 on the double to cover it/make a bit more... :think
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 08:09 AM
Is the Lebedev stoppage around 1/2?
He was on a run of 8 KO's in a row before the ''loss'' to Huck..... Jones won't have enough in his punches to get Lebedev's respect I don't think.
MagicMan91
05-20-2011, 08:10 AM
Is the Lebedev stoppage around 1/2?
He was on a run of 8 KO's in a row before the ''loss'' to Huck..... Jones won't have enough in his punches to get Lebedev's respect I don't think.
4/7 best priced with Skybet mate
Joan_Guzman
05-20-2011, 08:15 AM
Chad Dawson to beat Diaconu you can get 1.3 on him. Great odds. Dawson is several leagues above Diaconu.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 08:19 AM
Cheers.
I like Dawson by decision at 4/6. If Pascal couldn't get Diaconu out of there in two goes I'm not sure he can.
emallini
05-20-2011, 08:19 AM
My Treble
Degale on points 10/3
Cleverly on points 5/2
Hopkins on points 7/4
Put 20 quid on it and it pays nearly 900 pound
jonnytightlips
05-20-2011, 08:24 AM
My Treble
Degale on points 10/3
Cleverly on points 5/2
Hopkins on points 7/4
Put 20 quid on it and it pays nearly 900 pound
Thats a decent bet right there.
Joan_Guzman
05-20-2011, 08:29 AM
Cheers.
I like Dawson by decision at 4/6. If Pascal couldn't get Diaconu out of there in two goes I'm not sure he can.
Pascal only had one arm and Diaconu couldn't still couldn't do anything. Chad has all the tools to box him to pieces then get the Pascal rematch ON! I am not sure about the decision bet I think he will come out motivated tonight seeing as Pascal is on the main event. Do not rule out a stunning early stoppage for Chad.
Joan_Guzman
05-20-2011, 08:31 AM
My Treble
Degale on points 10/3
Cleverly on points 5/2
Hopkins on points 7/4
Put 20 quid on it and it pays nearly 900 pound
Cleverly on points on a ****** card with the likes of Dave Parris not doubt involved and a european journeyman has all the makings of a terrible stoppage. If it goes the distance though you can relax.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 08:35 AM
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
This would be my accy....
I think Cleverly will get his man out of there, he's been stopped twice by light hitters and is on two day's notice. His last two opponents have been six round level guys.
Dawson hasn't stopped anyone in a while, though all his opponents have been durable. Points is the bet for me I think.
Change that to Cleverly inside six rounds and it's 90/1.
Joan_Guzman
05-20-2011, 08:42 AM
Link doesn't work. I think I am just gonna go for Dawson win at 1.3 won't pay much. And the Steward factor will be there. But French Open is next week and will make a lot from that. Nadal has gone from 1.6 to win to 2.2 after the Djok streak.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 08:45 AM
Link doesn't work. I think I am just gonna go for Dawson win at 1.3 won't pay much but French Open is next week and will make a lot from that. Nadal has gone from 1.6 to win to 2.2 after the Djok streak.
Degale decision
Dawson decision
Hopkins win
Lebedev KO
Cleverly KO
Gavin KO
Pays ~50/1. If you make Cleverly 1-6 rounds it's 90/1. Saying that there ain't a lot of difference between 1/3 and 4/6, if I'm being cautious with Hopkins I may as well be with Dawson too.
Tennis isn't my strongpoint, I'm alright with individual matches but I don't bother trading.
wrimc
05-20-2011, 08:59 AM
Degale decision
Dawson decision
Hopkins win
Lebedev KO
Cleverly KO
Gavin KO
Pays ~50/1. If you make Cleverly 1-6 rounds it's 90/1. Saying that there ain't a lot of difference between 1/3 and 4/6, if I'm being cautious with Hopkins I may as well be with Dawson too.
Tennis isn't my strongpoint, I'm alright with individual matches but I don't bother trading.
I like the look of that one though don't trust the Degale fight to go to decision or stoppage either way need to have a sit down and have a look through and will post my own.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 09:05 AM
I might change that to stoppage actually, thinking about it.
I watched Groves vs Anderson yesterday on Sky Sports.... fuck me with a couple of weeks more notice Kenny would have gotten Groves out of there.
The only thing making me go for decision is that DeGale isn't really a heavy handed puncher like Anderson..... but equally Groves doesn't have the legs to take him 12 rounds.
Tough one.
Joan_Guzman
05-20-2011, 09:15 AM
I might change that to stoppage actually, thinking about it.
I watched Groves vs Anderson yesterday on Sky Sports.... fuck me with a couple of weeks more notice Kenny would have gotten Groves out of there.
The only thing making me go for decision is that DeGale isn't really a heavy handed puncher like Anderson..... but equally Groves doesn't have the legs to take him 12 rounds.
Tough one.
I am leaving that fight well alone lol. You got to think Groves must have some kind of idea of how to beat DeGale and Booth can implement game plans well. Its a lot like gamboa lopez few years back everyone said lopez beats him now a few fight later and its completely switched after some bad performances.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 09:32 AM
I don't think Booth is the right trainer for Groves though.
Watch him against Anderson, dancing around the ring like a chicken with his chin in the air, getting tagged with hard shots.
Booth was telling him to move and box but it was moving and boxing that caused him to gas out :lol:
He was much better when he planted his feet and threw bombs, especially the body shots.
If he tries that boxing and moving stuff against DeGale he'll be out on his feet after five rounds, regardless of what DeGale lands on him. His only chance is to stand in the centre of the ring and let his hands go.
I like Groves but this fight has come too soon for him. Look at his body language, I know The Dark One likes all that stuff but Groves just looks like he's on the way to the gallows.
boxingscience
05-20-2011, 09:49 AM
i think degale will stop groves. He'll probably land clean and first all night. i say 7 round stoppage for degale who shows clearly on the night that he is the much more improved boxer out of the two.
boxingscience
05-20-2011, 09:54 AM
I don't think Booth is the right trainer for Groves though.
Watch him against Anderson, dancing around the ring like a chicken with his chin in the air, getting tagged with hard shots.
Booth was telling him to move and box but it was moving and boxing that caused him to gas out :lol:
He was much better when he planted his feet and threw bombs, especially the body shots.
If he tries that boxing and moving stuff against DeGale he'll be out on his feet after five rounds, regardless of what DeGale lands on him. His only chance is to stand in the centre of the ring and let his hands go.
I like Groves but this fight has come too soon for him. Look at his body language, I know The Dark One likes all that stuff but Groves just looks like he's on the way to the gallows.
Groves body language is ok, it's just he's going to be out of his depth in boxing ability when he's in the ring with degale. He's going to be hit too clean, too often in this one.
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 10:00 AM
Yeah I agree.
Anyone fancy the relegation on Sunday?
Blackpool 4/9
Birmingham 4/5
Wigan 10/11
Wolves 15/2
Blackburn 12/1
Blackburn 40 -14
Wolves 40 -19
Birmingham 39 -20
----------------------------
Blackpool 39 -21
Wigan 39 -22
West Ham RELEGATED :happy
Fixtures.....
Blackpool away to Man Utd
Birmingham away to Spurs
Wigan away to Stoke
Wolves play Blackburn at home (draw written all over it :hey)
wrimc
05-20-2011, 10:02 AM
If Degale can stop Smith you have to think he will be capable of stopping Groves but then again its a bit of an unknown quantity.
leo_messi
05-20-2011, 10:08 AM
Yeah I agree.
Anyone fancy the relegation on Sunday?
Blackpool 4/9
Birmingham 4/5
Wigan 10/11
Wolves 15/2
Blackburn 12/1
Blackburn 40 -14
Wolves 40 -19
Birmingham 39 -20
----------------------------
Blackpool 39 -21
Wigan 39 -22
West Ham RELEGATED :happy
Fixtures.....
Blackpool away to Man Utd
Birmingham away to Spurs
Wigan away to Stoke
Wolves play Blackburn at home (draw written all over it :hey)
Not sure about that. Thats a seriously risky game to be playing, especially for Wolves. Obviously as the afternoon progresses and the news from other grounds come through, then depending on whether those results are favourable for both teams then an agreement will most likely be made
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 10:14 AM
Hmm.... if that game finishes level at least one of Wigan or Blackpool would have to win by two goals to send Wolves down.
I think it's worth a punt at 11/5.
Joan_Guzman
05-20-2011, 10:15 AM
Blackpool gonna stay up!
djoc175
05-20-2011, 10:52 AM
Great bet mate, I am all over it.
I agree but I have resisted the temptation to pile on it. Instead I have included it as part of a 10 game acc at over 33,000/1 :lol: (I found out I had a free bet on BETFRED I didn't know about so used that.)
Can't call the games down the bottom. I have gone for a Wolves win and Wigan to get a point vs Stoke.
BarraBod
05-20-2011, 11:04 AM
Does anyone know if you can make an accumulator for boxing on bet365?
I can bet on a few fights at the same time but their not added together, their just p laced as separate bets.
djoc175
05-20-2011, 11:06 AM
Does anyone know if you can make an accumulator for boxing on bet365?
I can bet on a few fights at the same time but their not added together, their just p laced as separate bets.
There should be a section at the bottom of the bet slip saying ''Multiple Options'' or something like that. Click that and it should show them.
BarraBod
05-20-2011, 11:10 AM
Got it, cheers. I've made all my bets now tho, so think I'll use it next time!
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 01:01 PM
I agree but I have resisted the temptation to pile on it. Instead I have included it as part of a 10 game acc at over 33,000/1 :lol: (I found out I had a free bet on BETFRED I didn't know about so used that.)
Can't call the games down the bottom. I have gone for a Wolves win and Wigan to get a point vs Stoke.
Get it shared!
KillerDeluxe
05-20-2011, 01:06 PM
HOLY SHIT!
I just went on Betus today to check the odds on Denis Lebedev vs. Roy Jones... and they have Lebedev at a 7.00 odd!!!!
That must be some kind of mistake.....A bookie would be CRAZY to offer a odd like this....But I jumped on it and 100$ on it :lol:
MagicMan91
05-20-2011, 01:13 PM
HOLY SHIT!
I just went on Betus today to check the odds on Denis Lebedev vs. Roy Jones... and they have Lebedev at a 7.00 odd!!!!
That must be some kind of mistake.....A bookie would be CRAZY to offer a odd like this....But I jumped on it and 100$ on it :lol:
Can I gamble on that site from the UK? Is it easy to get money from it or do I need to send passports ETC?
KillerDeluxe
05-20-2011, 01:18 PM
Can I gamble on that site from the UK? Is it easy to get money from it or do I need to send passports ETC?
All you need is a Credit/Debit card bro.....
And yes u can be form ANYWHERE in the world. I live in USA so by betting sites are very, very limited....
All you need to do is send them a email with your identification(to proove that your at least 18 yrs old) when you wanna request a payout. But you dont have to do that right away, you can do it when you payout...
MagicMan91
05-20-2011, 01:21 PM
All you need is a Credit/Debit card bro.....
And yes u can be form ANYWHERE in the world. I live in USA so by betting sites are very, very limited....
All you need to do is send them a email with your identification(to proove that your at least 18 yrs old) when you wanna request a payout. But you dont have to do that right away, you can do it when you payout...
Nice one bro :good
I doubt they'll honour it but it'd be nice!
Sam Sexton to win via KO/TKO or DQ 4/7 on Boylesports
Beeston Brawler
05-20-2011, 01:24 PM
Sam Sexton to win via KO/TKO or DQ 4/7 on Boylesports
:lol::patsch
Wow. £250 on that before someone goes very big :lol:
djoc175
05-20-2011, 01:55 PM
Get it shared!
It's ridiculously ambitous. Some picks are purely because the price appealed e.g. Fulham at home to Arsenal 11/4.
Villa vs L'pool
Fulham vs Arsenal
Everton vs Chelsea
Man Utd vs Blackpool
Wolves vs Blackburn
Bolton vs Man City
Newcastle vs West Brom - DRAW
Spurs vs B'ham - DRAW
Stoke vs Wigan - DRAW
West Ham vs Sunderland - DRAW
WalletInspector
05-20-2011, 02:04 PM
:lol::patsch
Wow. £250 on that before someone goes very big :lol:
Backed into 1/2 already... probably by you. :lol:
53 and counting
05-20-2011, 03:04 PM
Just had a score on Bradley Pryce at 7/2
:lol::patsch
Wow. £250 on that before someone goes very big :lol:
Was going to do the same but was put off by the fact it's only a 6 rounder. Still should really be over in half that though
Tommy O C
05-21-2011, 03:40 AM
50 euro acca- Cleverley ko/tko/dq
DeGale ko/tko/dq
Lebedev ko/tko/dq
Celtic
Tottenham
Man City
50 quid pays bout 570
53 and counting
05-21-2011, 04:42 AM
Lebedev Ko 1/2
Gavin Ko 4/9
Clev decision 3/1
Degale decision 7/2
pays 38/1
MagicMan91
05-21-2011, 05:46 AM
Alexander Petkovic v Joseph Marwa
Method Of Victory
Alexander Petkovic by KO,TKO or DQ
4/7
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
Frankie Gavin v Young Mutley
Method Of Victory
Frankie Gavin by KO,TKO or DQ
4/7
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
Denis Lebedev v Roy Jones
Method Of Victory
Lebedev by KO, TKO or DQ
1/2
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
Jean Pascal v Bernard Hopkins
Fight Winner
Bernard Hopkins
4/3
Possible Payout 0.00 GBP
1 bet @
James DeGale v George Groves
Method Of Victory
DeGale by KO, TKO or DQ
I always get so fucking greedy on Boxing.... £10 returns £124. Might have that and £30 on the double to cover it/make a bit more... :think
Why do I do these things? :-(
Fucking useless German
lirva
05-21-2011, 06:12 AM
Gavin stoppage
Degale stoppage
Lebedev stoppage
Cleverly stoppage
Hopkins points
Dawson points
25/1
kosaros
05-21-2011, 06:17 AM
Lebedev 1-3
Hopkins to win
Pays almost 9/1 at Bet365.
wrimc
05-21-2011, 06:26 AM
I think there is a mint ot be made with accumulators this weekend.
Im thinking
Gavin in 1-12 2/5
James Degale 3/10
Clev in 1-12 4/11
thats 7/5
add Lebedev 1-12 4/7
14/5
:think opinions?
kosaros
05-21-2011, 06:31 AM
I think there is a mint ot be made with accumulators this weekend.
Im thinking
Gavin in 1-12 2/5
James Degale 3/10
Clev in 1-12 4/11
thats 7/5
add Lebedev 1-12 4/7
14/5
:think opinions?
I've got an accumulator pretty much like that, but I've got DeGale stoppage instead of just outright and added Hopkins decision which bumped it up to about 14/1.
wrimc
05-21-2011, 06:34 AM
I've got an accumulator pretty much like that, but I've got DeGale stoppage instead of just outright and added Hopkins decision which bumped it up to about 14/1.
I will probably do a few with varying stakes depending on their chance of success but there is a lot of scope for adding a few selections such as a Hopkins decision,method of victory in the Degale fight, Dawson decision that can really bump up accumulators that have a good chance of success.
9/1 Groves to get put down in the 1st round ;)
WalletInspector
05-21-2011, 08:11 AM
Hops by decision cut to 7/4 overnight on Boyles... :twisted:
I haven't got anything down on the DeGale-Groves fight. I've got a feeling that DeGale might have a couple of problems with Groves' early movement so I'm hoping I can jump on at a better price than 1/3.
mrnutjob
05-21-2011, 08:13 AM
i just backed groves to win via tko,ko & dq at 4/1
no clue why, just after all this trash talking i sense something.......:lol:
WalletInspector
05-21-2011, 08:14 AM
i just backed groves to win via tko,ko & dq at 4/1
no clue why, just after all this trash talking i sense something.......:lol:
No chance. :nono
Are you going to be watching the Lebedev fight later?
djoc175
05-21-2011, 08:30 AM
Since people are listing accumulators:
Sexton by stoppage
Gavin by stoppage
DeGale to WIN
Lebedev by stoppage
Dawson by decision
Man Utd
11/1
Why do boxing accumulators always look more likely than say a football acc at a similar price?
perspicacity
05-21-2011, 09:33 AM
£10 on these 3 to be draws -
Villa-Liverpool
Stoke-Wigan
Wolves-Blackburn
£10 Acca on these to win -
Luton
Rennes
Barca
R. Sociedad
Beeston Brawler
05-21-2011, 09:41 AM
Rugby league..... Wakefield to beat Castleford 2/1.
Huddersfield -12 Catalans 4/5.
jim holton
05-21-2011, 10:42 AM
£10 on these 3 to be draws -
Villa-Liverpool
Stoke-Wigan
Wolves-Blackburn
£10 Acca on these to win -
Luton
Rennes
Barca
R. Sociedad
Watch yourself mate, Barca are resting Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Puyol, Villa and Valdes. Not sure who's on the bench though.
perspicacity
05-21-2011, 11:07 AM
Watch yourself mate, Barca are resting Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Puyol, Villa and Valdes. Not sure who's on the bench though.
Yep, I thought that but figured they'd bring in the replacement robots :D
Edit, Luton let me down anyway :!:
djoc175
05-21-2011, 03:55 PM
Betfair not settled bets on RJJ:rant
WalletInspector
05-21-2011, 04:43 PM
Betfair not settled bets on RJJ:rant
I know... annoying me... for some reason.
China_hand_Joe
05-21-2011, 05:36 PM
Since people are listing accumulators:
Sexton by stoppage
Gavin by stoppage
DeGale to WIN
Lebedev by stoppage
Dawson by decision
Man Utd
11/1
Why do boxing accumulators always look more likely than say a football acc at a similar price?
Because they are more likely if you know what you are doing.
Football is a sport with high variance in the results, boxing results are often something you can be certain about.
Joe Calzaghe cannot lose, Barca can.
djoc175
05-21-2011, 06:54 PM
Because they are more likely if you know what you are doing.
Football is a sport with high variance in the results, boxing results are often something you can be certain about.
Joe Calzaghe cannot lose, Barca can.
I'll go along with that.
WalletInspector
05-21-2011, 07:02 PM
Got on Groves at 4's :happy
djoc175
05-21-2011, 07:13 PM
Got on Groves at 4's :happy
Wasn't it bizarre? After the bell he was still drifting went as far out as 6.2. Managed to get matched at 6 :D
Joan_Guzman
05-21-2011, 07:18 PM
Cleverly on points on a ****** card with the likes of Dave Parris not doubt involved and a european journeyman has all the makings of a terrible stoppage. If it goes the distance though you can relax.
I am leaving that fight well alone lol. You got to think Groves must have some kind of idea of how to beat DeGale and Booth can implement game plans well. Its a lot like gamboa lopez few years back everyone said lopez beats him now a few fight later and its completely switched after some bad performances.
:D Sometimes your just on fire. Shame I never bet on these picks. You could lay Groves out from 1.4 to 1.6 until the announcement was read. DeGale also hit 1.2 from 1.7 when he hurt Groves. I never did either.
WD all winners. If you still got an accumulator going you have done very well with Gavin sleeping through his fight and Groves winning.
WalletInspector
05-21-2011, 07:23 PM
Wasn't it bizarre? After the bell he was still drifting went as far out as 6.2. Managed to get matched at 6 :D
I couldn't believe it. Shortest price I seen him in any of fight was 6/4 and that was only briefly.
Any word on Sexton, Beeston? :think
rockandrollstar
05-21-2011, 08:59 PM
In round 6 I stuck a fiver on a draw at 20/1.
Just before the last round I knew Groves had landed more shots and had better accuracy so stuck a fiver on Groves at 2/1, so a fiver up overall.
Pretty happy as I wasnt even gonna bet tonight
jonnytightlips
05-22-2011, 02:11 AM
BHop is after winning me a small fortune.
Beeston Brawler
05-22-2011, 04:26 AM
Frankie Gavin and James DeGale cost me £4k in winnings :fire
No word on Sexton yet..... might not have fought in the end.
jim holton
05-22-2011, 09:48 AM
No card at Newc WBA 9/1. Could'nt resist for obvious reasons. Hopefully Pardew does leave tiotte out as he hinted.
Sam tompkins anytime try 10/11. A bradford mate was bigging up the bulls pre-season, told him to lay off the glue. Piss poor signings, ironically on the back of a huge upturn in season ticket sales. Wigan's backs could go nap on their own today, but the layers are onto it with poor odds, except for hills' standout on sam.
Fancy plenty of goals today. Over 2.5 at stoke, man united, wham pays 19/5.
punchdrunkgench
05-22-2011, 10:02 AM
Frankie Gavin and James DeGale cost me £4k in winnings :fire
No word on Sexton yet..... might not have fought in the end.
so called funtime cost me a packet he will now be known as fuckmybettime
djoc175
05-22-2011, 10:04 AM
Man Utd to score in both halves - 6/5. Not entirely sure what to make of it.
jim holton
05-22-2011, 10:06 AM
VVDS
de siva
smalling
evans
evra
fletcher
scholes
park
anderson
nani
berbatov
Beeston Brawler
05-22-2011, 10:09 AM
I'd leave it.
It's one of those where you'd kick yourself for though if it came in.
daveyboy1609
05-22-2011, 10:12 AM
Man Utd to score in both halves - 6/5. Not entirely sure what to make of it.
I'd get on Berbatov anytime Goalscorer, going for the Golden Boot today and the United players want him to get it.
jim holton
05-22-2011, 10:18 AM
vidic in for smalling
Had to play barry ferguson card at 6/1. Hopefully brum are staring into the abyss and the volatile scotsman gets involved in some personal battles in the middle.
Man united were 6/4 for win/win Ht-Ft, think thts come in, in the vast majority of their homes.
skel1983
05-22-2011, 10:33 AM
8/13 on United :rofl Bet of the year, look at the team!! This will pay for my weekend in London on the 3rd June.
Flash Jab
05-22-2011, 10:41 AM
8/13 on United :rofl Bet of the year, look at the team!! This will pay for my weekend in London on the 3rd June.
Best I got is 2/5. Took it anyway though.
ShaneTheSherrif
05-22-2011, 10:43 AM
I had £25 on De Gale stoppage in the 1st 6 (7/4):oops: But after 4 rounds Groves was a ridiculous 9/1 to win on points so I put £3 on just to cover the loss. Then with the £30 from that I thought I may aswell put it all on Hopkins winning on points! So was a nice recovery in the end.
skel1983
05-22-2011, 11:24 AM
1-0 Park. :good
skel1983
05-22-2011, 11:42 AM
1-1 Adam decent free kick!
WalletInspector
05-22-2011, 02:25 PM
Quality betting weekend.
Had Lebedev stoppage at 4/6.
Groves at 7/2.
Hopkins Decision at 7/4.
:happy
ashishwarrior
05-22-2011, 02:29 PM
Quality betting weekend.
Had Lebedev stoppage at 4/6.
Groves at 7/2.
Hopkins Decision at 7/4.
:happy
no dawson win on there :huh still very well done :yep
WalletInspector
05-22-2011, 02:56 PM
no dawson win on there :huh still very well done :yep
Considered having Dawson Decision but wasn't sure how he would react to the new regime so didn't bother in the end.
ashishwarrior
05-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Considered having Dawson Decision but wasn't sure how he would react to the new regime so didn't bother in the end.
never mind always next time :good luck :thumbsup .
who you see winning barca united?
perspicacity
05-22-2011, 03:06 PM
Quality betting weekend.
Had Lebedev stoppage at 4/6.
Groves at 7/2.
Hopkins Decision at 7/4.
:happy
Nice one m8, my footie bets got shafted this week.:patsch
WalletInspector
05-22-2011, 03:09 PM
never mind always next time :good luck :thumbsup .
who you see winning barca united?
Not too sure tbh. You wouldn't want to bet against this Barca team but at the same time you always know Fergie will have something up his sleeve. I see manure nullifying them for a while before Barca get a breakthrough late on and win 1 or 2-0... But 3/1 ain't a terrible price for manure. Fuck knows really. :lol:
What do you reckon?
MagicMan91
05-22-2011, 03:10 PM
Considered having Dawson Decision but wasn't sure how he would react to the new regime so didn't bother in the end.
He probably didn't even realise anything different knowing his brain power
WalletInspector
05-22-2011, 03:18 PM
He probably didn't even realise anything different knowing his brain power
"Eddie's looking a bit old recently... :huh"
53 and counting
05-22-2011, 03:20 PM
Bhop decision got me my money back last night. Lazio vs Lecce is currently 1-1 after 35 mins and you can get 5/6 under 5.5 goals, surely thats massive!
MagicMan91
05-22-2011, 03:21 PM
Bhop decision got me my money back last night. Lazio vs Lecce is currently 1-1 after 35 mins and you can get 5/6 under 5.5 goals, surely thats massive sureli
Rumours that it's a bit....you know...
53 and counting
05-22-2011, 03:22 PM
Rumours that it's a bit....you know...
2-1 Lazio now :lol::patsch
leo_messi
05-22-2011, 03:30 PM
had a tenner on leinster at half time at 10/3.
Also got a tip off an airline steward who had a stake in a racehorse that was racing in the curragh today. He advised us to go each way on it. It went off at 50/1 and came second, i had a tenner e/w on it and it only lost by less than half a length. I would of told you guys about it earlier except that i was still recovering from my trip to Cardif yesterday........
ashishwarrior
05-22-2011, 03:32 PM
Not too sure tbh. You wouldn't want to bet against this Barca team but at the same time you always know Fergie will have something up his sleeve. I see manure nullifying them for a while before Barca get a breakthrough late on and win 1 or 2-0... But 3/1 ain't a terrible price for manure. Fuck knows really. :lol:
What do you reckon?
like six added minutes ;) as for who wins really aint got a clue at a guess penalties manure win :nut
noonan
05-22-2011, 03:34 PM
Chelsea let me down today, I had Sunderland,Wigan and Chelsea in a treble. wankers
ashishwarrior
05-22-2011, 03:36 PM
Chelsea let me down today, I had Sunderland,Wigan and Chelsea in a treble. wankers
you would have been better with sunderland , wigan and carlo getting sacked :good:hey:lol:
lirva
05-22-2011, 05:28 PM
Gavin stoppage
Degale stoppage
Lebedev stoppage
Cleverly stoppage
Hopkins points
Dawson points
25/1
gavin and degale let me down
jim holton
05-23-2011, 05:58 AM
Very very rare to get Utd at those odds at home. A so called 2nd team will be on duty, but they demolished a (admittedly piss poor) Schalke outfit, amongst others.
Rooney is asking to play, so don't be surprised if he does or takes part in some of the game...those odds will disappear if so. No Fergie team rests on it's laurels, and Berbvatov etc will be starters without a doubt.
Should be goals in this, as the tangerines' defence has chuckle brothers quality about it, but going forward they can score against anyone.
Love it. Classic eg of bookie error. Not the 'free money' bollocks spouted thiough, as not bet is.
jim holton
05-23-2011, 06:01 AM
No card at Newc WBA 9/1. Could'nt resist for obvious reasons. Hopefully Pardew does leave tiotte out as he hinted.
Sam tompkins anytime try 10/11. A bradford mate was bigging up the bulls pre-season, told him to lay off the glue. Piss poor signings, ironically on the back of a huge upturn in season ticket sales. Wigan's backs could go nap on their own today, but the layers are onto it with poor odds, except for hills' standout on sam.
Fancy plenty of goals today. Over 2.5 at stoke, man united, wham pays 19/5.
Halsey delivers again again at newcastle :rasta
Wigans backs 1 try short of going nap, but sam goes over at a juicy 10/11 :D
jim holton
05-23-2011, 06:04 AM
vidic in for smalling
Had to play barry ferguson card at 6/1. Hopefully brum are staring into the abyss and the volatile scotsman gets involved in some personal battles in the middle.
Man united were 6/4 for win/win Ht-Ft, think thts come in, in the vast majority of their homes.
Ferguson picks up a petty yellow at a mammoth 6/1 (7/5 next best). Fuckin love it. :cool:
Berbatov backers must be gutted, coulda shoulda had 5 or 6 yesterday.
jim holton
05-23-2011, 06:44 AM
As for Barca v Man United, the odds against for a far superior side will attract plenty of interest. Schooled them two years back, and a far better side now, whilst united are at the same level. Who'd lump against this ferguson team though?
For all the plaudits their effective style brings, they still have 3-4 of the most hideous players that lace up boots. Biscuits, Mash etc are total twats who eufa turn a blind eye to.
Not a full set of markets up yet, but watch out for MOTM. Owt around 5's for messi, but envisage 3.50 at best. Waiting on other markets.
leo_messi
05-24-2011, 06:16 AM
Its all about Contador today lads, available at 4/7 if anyone is looking to bite.
Also Garzelli at 13/1 is a great e/w bet..
So far this tour I've predicted 2 stage wins, and 1 placement out of 5 predictions. Lets hope that form continues today...
leo_messi
05-24-2011, 10:32 AM
Its all about Contador today lads, available at 4/7 if anyone is looking to bite.
Also Garzelli at 13/1 is a great e/w bet..
So far this tour I've predicted 2 stage wins, and 1 placement out of 5 predictions. Lets hope that form continues today...
Garzelli in 1st place in the Time Trial by 13 seconds so far..Still about 10 riders still to come, but he has a great chance of a top 3 here....
leo_messi
05-24-2011, 11:16 AM
Garzelli in 1st place in the Time Trial by 13 seconds so far..Still about 10 riders still to come, but he has a great chance of a top 3 here....
Happy Days,
Contador finishes first. €50 at 4/7.
Lost a tenner on Garzelli though who finished a commendable 5th...
WalletInspector
05-24-2011, 12:03 PM
Nice one :good
You can get 10/11 for Froch Decision, looks good to me.
Some new odds:
John Murray 4/6 vs Mitchell 6/4
Chisora 8/11 vs Fury 11/10
DeGale 4/7 vs Groves 5/4.
53 and counting
05-24-2011, 03:34 PM
Nice one :good
You can get 10/11 for Froch Decision, looks good to me.
Some new odds:
John Murray 4/6 vs Mitchell 6/4
Chisora 8/11 vs Fury 11/10
DeGale 4/7 vs Groves 5/4.
Froch and all favs look good tome although degale/groves aint happening. Georgie boy is movin on to better things :yep:yep. Bangalore were 1/16 in running in the ipl and let me down for an 8/1 accy. Keane let me down for a 20/1 double. 1st 2 horses have won on my lucky 15 waiting on Logans Run 8.30(delayed) and Cousin Maggie 8.45.
leo_messi
05-25-2011, 06:15 AM
Giro d'Italia.
My picks today.
Visconti and Kiryienka both each way...
Beeston Brawler
05-25-2011, 06:34 AM
Brook is 4/5 by decision over N'Dou.
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