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Fat Joe
03-02-2009, 06:07 PM
If Diaz had got lucky against Pacman would he have been P4P #1?

I'm sure Hatton with his retarded logic would have had Diaz @ #1 in his list.
trotter
03-02-2009, 06:09 PM
Come on Joe, you're better than this.
TFFP
03-02-2009, 06:13 PM
The man has actually got a fair point, and illustrated well.

p4p #1 is obviously not lineal. Marquez has a svery strong case as it is, and certainly if Pacquiao lost would be a shoe in.
icemax
03-02-2009, 06:17 PM
This shit is getting old very quickly...I normally pop over onto the general forum to view and participate in this level of puerile debate
ishy
03-02-2009, 06:20 PM
We all know Ricky's got a problem in understanding how the p4p thing works. It's been discussed before.
Fat Joe
03-02-2009, 06:25 PM
I normally pop over onto the general forum to view and participate in this level of puerile debate

I did consider posting it in the GF.
TAM83
03-02-2009, 06:58 PM
Another fat joe thread:tired
kosaros
03-02-2009, 07:32 PM
We all know Ricky's got a problem in understanding how the p4p thing works. It's been discussed before.

Exactly, why do we have to keep answering the same questions over and over again.
GazOC
03-02-2009, 08:21 PM
The man has actually got a fair point, and illustrated well.

p4p #1 is obviously not lineal. Marquez has a svery strong case as it is, and certainly if Pacquiao lost would be a shoe in.

Its not a good point because everyone on this forum knows the P4P number 1 ranking isn't lineal. The thread is just a lame and clumsy wind up attempt.
GazOC
03-02-2009, 08:21 PM
I did consider posting it in the GF.

That might be a better idea next time....;)
brown bomber
03-03-2009, 04:25 AM
would marquez have been p4p number 1 if he'd beat PAC? Probably, it's not lineal but if a top fighter beats the man he's got a good case for arguing he's number one!
Fat Joe
03-03-2009, 04:50 AM
would marquez have been p4p number 1 if he'd beat PAC?

He did and he is.
kerrminator
03-03-2009, 05:03 AM
He did and he is.

I kinda agree there, I only judge a fighter on the fights I reckon they won and I dont think Pac was even close to winning

A fight takes more than 1 kd to decide imo and JMM had won far too many of the other rounds on my card to make a difference.
Fat Joe
03-03-2009, 05:25 AM
I dont think Pac was even close to winning


I wouldn't go that far, but I just feel that JMM has Pac's number and knows how to outbox him, I thought he just sneaked the win.
brown bomber
03-03-2009, 05:50 AM
It's his narrow punching style, unlike most mexicans he seems to rely heavily on straight punches. Even his hooks are thrown in a straight manner. He is very, very good! I'd be interested to see the chris john fight.
kerrminator
03-03-2009, 05:50 AM
I gave him 3 or 4 rounds tops but with the KD the scores might have been a little closer but no way did Pac win
TFFP
03-03-2009, 05:58 AM
It's his narrow punching style, unlike most mexicans he seems to rely heavily on straight punches. Even his hooks are thrown in a straight manner. He is very, very good! I'd be interested to see the chris john fight.
YouTube is your friend. It is most definitely found there as I watched it the other day.

Not that interesting of a fight, maybe one for the purists. Marquez definitely won, but it was pretty close and John showed he's a good fighter.
trotter
03-03-2009, 06:50 AM
He did and he is.

He didn't and he isn't I'm afraid.

I may have scored the fights for Marquez myself but that doesn't matter. The results in the record books matter. And Marquez has had 2 stabs at Manny and hasn't won.

Add to that Pacman's weight jumping feats and he has to get the nod IMO

It's tight though, I'll give you that
Jack
03-03-2009, 06:57 AM
Diaz would have been, if he was ranked highly in the first place. A win over Pacquiao would have put him around 7-10, but he was coming from about 30-40. Hatton, on the other hand, is ranked highly as it is, probably 12th, so a win for him would put him in the top 3 at least. Considering how unbeatable Pacquiao has looked recently, maybe Hatton would go top.
Beeston Brawler
03-03-2009, 07:10 AM
I wouldn't have had Diaz anywhere near the top 10.

All it would have proven for me was that Pacquiao shouldn't have been at 135.
jc
03-03-2009, 02:26 PM
Its only GBP's who think P4P number 1 is a title that can be won.

Hatton will not be p4p number ne if he beats Pac, I see no reason to put him above either Marquez or Hopkins.