View Full Version : Rendall Munroe - The Future
Beeston Brawler
03-03-2009, 08:12 AM
Prior to Friday's win over Martinez..... Maloney was on boxing hour talking about the next few fights for Munroe.
After another couple of defences, he said he was looking to put him in with a contender/top 10 guy to see where he is at presently.
If you were him, would you be tempted to give Richard Schaefer a call and try to put him on the Hatton vs Pacquiao undercard against Rey Bautista?
If Munroe is going to get a shot at a title, better still to win one, these are the kind of guys he is going to need to beat in order to do so.
I see Bautista as beatable, he was stopped in one by the ordinary Ponce De Leon, and was stood on his head back in November on the undercard of Hatton vs Paulie.
Thoughts?
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I think Maloney is 100% correct with that path. Defences first.
He's gonna have to fight Maludrottu soon enough as a mandatory.
Monshipour.
Matthew Marsh.
Sidorenko would be an excellent test, he had good fights with Cordoba.
Then Dunne/Cordoba
That would be the route I would take. Certainly no ambitious world title attempts within his next 5. Only if he comes through good tests would I put him in with Dunne/Cordoba. He hasn't fought enough quality opposition with a range of styles. We've only seen him beat a crude puncher.
mryeags
03-03-2009, 09:07 AM
Yup I reckon Simone maludrottu will be next on the agenda which will be a good defence .... Maludrottu is a bantamweight moving up and rendall should have too much for him .... One fight I would like to see is Michael Hunter at a domestic level then moving onto possibly Cordobra or Pounce de leon would be interesting fights ... then bring on Juan manual Lopez next !! ....eeerrrr maybe ......
achillesthegreat
03-03-2009, 09:20 AM
I agree with Maloney. Give him a few defences for experience then see where he is v a top 10. No need to guess now. See who a top 10 is in 9 months.
kosaros
03-03-2009, 09:58 AM
bautista is very beatable and is a decent name to have on the record.
Beeston Brawler
03-03-2009, 10:08 AM
I think defences would be a good idea, but Bautista wouldn't be a bad fight to make right now IMO.
kosaros
03-03-2009, 10:09 AM
I think defences would be a good idea, but Bautista wouldn't be a bad fight to make right now IMO.
It would certainly raise his profile a lot more over in the states.
Power
03-03-2009, 10:20 AM
think its one of the best routes in ages for a british boxer. too many times we have seem them move up straight away and get knocked out. a few more defenses learn abit more then move on.
finally were not rushing someone
He's only had 19 fights. It's not as if it would be normal for a fighter to be fighting for a world title at this stage, except for exceptional talents of course.
Just as long as he doesn't fight bums and keeps developing that is the right progression. The European belt is a blessing for him as it should present a steady stream of good competition.
djoc175
03-03-2009, 10:26 AM
Its a tough division for sure it'll be tough for him to win a title there he's better off gaining experience defending the EBU
BigEars
03-03-2009, 10:50 AM
Yup I reckon Simone maludrottu will be next on the agenda which will be a good defence .... Maludrottu is a bantamweight moving up and rendall should have too much for him .... One fight I would like to see is Michael Hunter at a domestic level then moving onto possibly Cordobra or Pounce de leon would be interesting fights ... then bring on Juan manual Lopez next !! ....eeerrrr maybe ......
I doubt Maludrottu will be next, Munroe won't have to fight him for another 9 months.
I think we'll get Mora or Walstad next followed by Mark Moran(if he can cause the upset against Marsh)and then Maludrottu.
After that ???
TehRileh
03-03-2009, 12:36 PM
I can see Jeremy Parodi someone down the line too.
mryeags
03-03-2009, 12:40 PM
Zsolt Bedak would be a good fight but this Hungarian lads a decent fighter .... think Munroe would have his number but could be awkward ....
Munroe will win a world title just a matter of sitting tight enjoy the ride and wait for the right opportunity ! ....
Beeston Brawler
03-03-2009, 12:42 PM
Is Mike Oliver still around?
mryeags
03-03-2009, 12:49 PM
not Mike the machine Oliver !! - hes been Ko'd in his last two fights but still on the scene .... he fought Escalante the mexican last time up who is decent and lost by TKO in the 3rd .... think that was for one of those American belts but not sure which one
bored
03-03-2009, 12:50 PM
Take on the best competition in Europe at super bantam and try and make the much needed improvements. Try to get a bit more power behind his shots and work on those slow starts, every time he fights I get worried in those early rounds. If he does that and gets a good run of convincing wins under his belt then he can take on some contenders at world level.
mryeags
03-03-2009, 12:54 PM
Take on the best competition in Europe at super bantam and try and make the much needed improvements. Try to get a bit more power behind his shots and work on those slow starts, every time he fights I get worried in those early rounds. If he does that and gets a good run of convincing wins under his belt then he can take on some contenders at world level.
Dont u think boss sometimes its part of his game plan .... i certainly do on friday evening ... Martinex came out all fired up and Rendall took no chances early doors , covered up defended well and Martinex by the fourth looked devoid of ideas and the gas was already half empty and Munroe slowly took him apart from there on in .... i thought it was a good good performance ...even took a breather in the eighth and was unlucky not to stop Kiko in the final round ....
nufc16
03-03-2009, 12:58 PM
cant remember too well, but was munroe not considered much of a prospect when he was thrown in with andy morris in his 11th fight?
mryeags
03-03-2009, 01:02 PM
no he wasnt but some fighters progress and develop and Munroe is a thinking mans fighter - think bernie hopkins lost his first pro fight and hes not done too bad !
Beeston Brawler
03-03-2009, 01:05 PM
Losing early in a career may help a particular kind of person/fighter more than one could imagine.
It would definitely question the desire to continue and become the best that you can.
Some guys lose and disappear - regardless of the level at which they fight. Some come back stronger and become better than the guy that defeated them.
Munroe is a case in point, no doubt there are hundreds of others.
The problem is that fighters without undefeated records often become unmarketable, which is a shame. Having an '0' is seriously overrated.
bored
03-03-2009, 01:09 PM
Dont u think boss sometimes its part of his game plan .... i certainly do on friday evening ... Martinex came out all fired up and Rendall took no chances early doors , covered up defended well and Martinex by the fourth looked devoid of ideas and the gas was already half empty and Munroe slowly took him apart from there on in .... i thought it was a good good performance ...even took a breather in the eighth and was unlucky not to stop Kiko in the final round ....
True was probably smart gameplan, still it had me worried although Jim Watt's commentary didn't really help! Against Martirosyan I think it was he didn't start too well though and I would like to see him try and get into his rythm earlier because by the second half of fights he looks a lot better although that just might be from wearing out his opponents with his size and strength.
mryeags
03-03-2009, 01:10 PM
Having an '0' is seriously overrated.
Think my Mrs would disagree with you 100% there .... :hey (at least thats what the milkman said !) :rofl
Beeston Brawler
03-03-2009, 01:11 PM
I think the slower start against Martinez was part (though not totally) of a gameplan.
Against Marytosian he was just crap.
If you check out Munroe's last 5 fights its actually quite impressive.
He fought Martinez, who was seen as the best in Europe after his win over Dunne.
Okay, Bouatia was donkey shit.
Martirosyan is ranked highly by the EBU, around 5.
Trotta is ranked 10 by the EBU.
Rematches Martinez.
So he's not going too badly. He's proven himself well worthy of the belt, and on paper...he's the best in Europe regardless of what people say about Dunne.
Beeston Brawler
03-03-2009, 01:26 PM
Thoughts on a Dunne fight, should it happen?
BamBam
03-03-2009, 02:08 PM
It's bound to happen sooner or later I reckon. The thing is I'm tired of all the bitching and whinging thats gone on about it (people on fourms/maloney and peters) and now I really don't care if they fight. It's the best fight for him financially thats for sure. I'm not too sure whether he is worried about money at the minute though. He certainly doesn't seem to concerned with that in the short term anyway.
A lot of prettty good ideas floating around as to what he could do. If he stays with the EBU which seems to be the plan then Maladrottu will be his only real test in the next year. Mike Oliver is a pretty good idea when he decides to test himself outside of Europe.
I'd guess it will go EBU defence x 2 or 3 - Moderate American/Latino - Good level American/Latino - World Title attempt
I really do think he should go full time though. I know people can see reasons why he shouldn't and say he's doing fine as he is but to maximise potential he should go full time.
Just a thought here but given his size (he's looks huge for the weight) do people think he'd have a problem stepping up to Featherweight at world level? SBW could be draining his power somewhat. I know he's going fine as he is at SBW just wonder what people think of it as an option further down the line
ninebar
03-03-2009, 02:34 PM
How about a fight with Steve Molitor!
TommyV
03-03-2009, 02:48 PM
I'd like to see him defend his European belt a few more times against decent level fighters and then step up for the world title. Simone Maludrottu is his mandatory so that'll probably happen, he's a decent fighter aswell and I think Munroe will learn from the fight. Will probably be his toughest fight to date but I think he can come through it and retain his belt.
Then possibly somebody like Matthew Marsh, I don't think he's great but he's highly ranked by the EBU - at #4 - and he'd claim the British title in the process. Then maybe somebody like Mahyar Monshipour, again pretty highly ranked at #3, he might be mandatory by this point if Munroe beats #1 Maludrottu and then #2 Dunne wins the WBA regular title against Ricardo Cordoba. Again a tough fighter but I think he's past his best and only recently came back, which makes him very beatable, a good name and good learning experience for Munroe.
Realistically if he wants to win a world title it's going to have to be against the winner of Dunne v Cordoba, hopefully for him it'll be Dunne as I think he'd beat him in honesty, I mean Dunne's a good boxer but he does have chin troubles, even if Munroe isn't the biggest puncher, and I think Munroe would always be in a position to land given he's a big super-bantam, and Dunne doesn't have the firepower to keep him off.
That are against Sakata the Japanese guy that has the WBC belt, but realistically he's not going to go to Japan for a world title fight, and Sakata certainly wouldn't go to the UK. And he's not going to beat guys like Caballero or JuanMa.
jj01709
03-03-2009, 03:14 PM
In the official programme from last fridays munroe fight, it stated that if one of the boxers on the undercard 'paul hyland' wins then he is inline for a fight with munroe this summer
BamBam
03-03-2009, 03:19 PM
Does anyone know much about this Japanese lad by the way?
Just had a look at the WBC ratings and they are a disgrace even by boxings very low standards. Has Vasquez retired? I missed it if he did. He's lost his WBC rating completely. Some right slops in their top 20 as well
What Japanese?
You might be thinking of Hasegawa, he's a bantamweight.
TommyV
03-03-2009, 03:30 PM
What Japanese?
You might be thinking of Hasegawa, he's a bantamweight.
I think he's called Sakata something, like Takeshumi Sakata. He's the guy with WBC belt that Vazquez vacated.
EDIT: Nevermind, forgot Sakata was the former WBA flyweight champ. His name is Toshiaki Nishioka.
Lewisbell
03-03-2009, 03:37 PM
I think we will see Munroe vs. Maludrottu and if he wins straight up to fight Dunne/Cordoba
BigEars
03-04-2009, 10:32 AM
I think he's called Sakata something, like Takeshumi Sakata. He's the guy with WBC belt that Vazquez vacated.
EDIT: Nevermind, forgot Sakata was the former WBA flyweight champ. His name is Toshiaki Nishioka.
Nishioka has got really fast hands, a pretty average defence(will stand in front of the other man) and tries to win fights on workrate.
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Vasquez is champion emeritus like Vitali was. He needed retina surgery not that long ago so had to take some time out. He'll be mandatory whenever he comes back.
I wouldn't be surprised if Paul Hyland is matched with Munroe should he beat Ian Napa. Afterall if Hyland was to win then he'd probably inherit some decent World rankings from besting Napa. If Munroe beat Hyland it would then help elevate Munroe's World ranking(event though Hyland's rankings would be at Bantamweight) and the vacant European title would presumely be contested by Napa. Makes sense on Maloney's part anyway, he can't really lose no matter what happens.
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