Who can king Calzaghe fight after Kessler?

[English Nutter]

As you yanks all slag him off for not fighting the best(and i have come to believe SOME truth in what your saying),who do you think he can fight next and get true credit for beating,imo theres none,bhop is too old,taylor too small,winky,well he just lost to bhop.
Whats his next steps after the big dane,or is he fighting a losing battle to get the respect he deserves from you lot.
Opinions please(no calzaghe wannabies/haters)

[Brickhaus]

BHop is top 5 P4P right now. That's by far the best fight for Calzaghe if he can make it, despite Popkins' age. Hopkins' last 4 fights >>> Calzaghe's entire resume, before this Kessler fight.

If he's not going to take Hopkins, then either Taylor (if he beats Pavlik), Woods or Dawson would impress me. There's nobody important left at 168 though. Unless someone else is willing to move there, he should probably move up to LHW after this fight.

[Alo2006]

Well after he lose to Kessler, he can try to fight B-Hop. Old or not, B-Hop beats Calzaghe :yep

[aillmatic]

Calzaghe is getting old, and doesn't have many fights left. IF he gets passed Kessler, he'll probably want big money fights...soo he'll want to fight the names you just said, Winky, Hopkins, or Taylor.

Miranda is moving up to 168... maybe him, but this fight won't do much for his legacy at this point.

I think he should fight Lucian Bute, if he beats Berrio.

[Amsterdam]

BHop is top 5 P4P right now. That's by far the best fight for Calzaghe if he can make it, despite Popkins' age. Hopkins' last 4 fights >>> Calzaghe's entire resume, before this Kessler fight.

If he's not going to take Hopkins, then either Taylor (if he beats Pavlik), Woods or Dawson would impress me. There's nobody important left at 168 though. Unless someone else is willing to move there, he should probably move up to LHW after this fight.

:rofl

Hopkins' overall resume blows Calzaghe's away, but you think his latest run of 4 fights does?

Mate, Wright was in horrid condition and it was a piss close fight at 170, Tarver is a 'name', but he's essentially at journeyman level at this point and then the two close bouts with Taylor. Hopkins has shown his age.

The shutout of Trinidad, the KO of DLH, the shutout of Echols twice, the near shutout of Eastman and of course a really contested fight with Jones added to his 20 title defences is what blows most guys resume's away, not 2 close bouts with Taylor and then a shutout of Tarver and a really age showing fight with an unconditioned Wright has him in my top 10 P4P, not not my top 5 currently.

I hope Calzaghe-Hopkins doesn't happen, because while Hopkins is a massive name, Hopkins can only beat guys around his current age condition and Wright coming up to 170 fits that bill because it slows him down, Calzaghe is 35, but he fights as if he is 30-32 and still has the drive to really establish something and it's just a worthless fight because Hopkins can't fire off like he used to and will lose a wide UD.

But -

Unification with Bute/Berrio winner, then move up to 175 to face off with Dawson.

This is a perfect ending after he deals with Kessler in my opinion, win lose or draw against either.

[Amsterdam]

Well after he lose to Kessler, he can try to fight B-Hop. Old or not, B-Hop beats Calzaghe :yep

Not by landing 10 punches a round and eating whatever amount that comes off of Calzaghe's workrate, which will be high on an older fighter who can't fire off his best shots like a younger fighter can.

If you 'lose' to Taylor due to Taylor's higher body of work, then you definitley lose to Calzaghe.

[aillmatic]

And berrio should fight Miranda!

That would be entertaining. Two power punchers going at it.

[Shake]

Hopkins has no chance of beating Calzaghe in my honest opinion. Just too high a workrate and too little chance of a K.O.

[Amsterdam]

Hopkins has no chance of beating Calzaghe in my honest opinion. Just too high a workrate and too little chance of a K.O.

Exactly, people are decieved that he can still do it because he's beaten some names at his age, but he would defeat guys like Dawson or Calzaghe, or even Kessler for that matter at this point, as shown from the Taylor fights, who is a lesser fighter than the 3 I mentioned, even though I felt he won both, they were close.

Wright wouldn't beat any top LHW either, or top SMW for that matter, it's really a lot different than these larger, hungrier and fresher guys and people aren't seeing that.

I don't want Calzaghe-Hopkins.

[Korn_06]

He should try to redeem himself in a rematch with Kessler.

[*BOX_FAN*]

Chad Dawson in 175 :bbb

[jc]

a move to 175 is the next step after Kessler, or he could wait around for the Taylor Pavlik winner...

[Quik]

Chad Dawson in 175 :bbb

Dawson won't be champ anymore after sept 29.

[Stinky gloves]

Lacy

[BigEars]

Acceptable opponents for me would be Taylor/Pavlik winner , Hopkins , Woods , Erdei , Dawson and possibly Bute should he beat Berrio .

[dumdane]

Lacy

Whatever has Lacy done to you, to make you wanna see him hurt like that again???

[Odo]

As you yanks all slag him off for not fighting the best(and i have come to believe SOME truth in what your saying),who do you think he can fight next and get true credit for beating,imo theres none,bhop is too old,taylor too small,winky,well he just lost to bhop.
Whats his next steps after the big dane,or is he fighting a losing battle to get the respect he deserves from you lot.
Opinions please(no calzaghe wannabies/haters)

Denis Inkin is probably the number 3 at supermiddle.Inkin would be a tough match for Joe,and probably no great fun to watch due to Inkin's style.

[Axe]

Dawson if he gets past his madatory in Adrian Diaconu. Calzaghe would get massive props for such a fight early next year. :good

[sues2nd]

As you yanks all slag him off for not fighting the best(and i have come to believe SOME truth in what your saying),who do you think he can fight next and get true credit for beating,imo theres none,bhop is too old,taylor too small,winky,well he just lost to bhop.
Whats his next steps after the big dane,or is he fighting a losing battle to get the respect he deserves from you lot.
Opinions please(no calzaghe wannabies/haters)

Bhop is his best choice. BUT, you say he is old....he is also a top 5 p4per on just about every list you look at. On top of that, it would also be a HUGE purse....

So money and resume wise, Bernard is the most logical choice.

As for his fight with Kessler...I truely believe Kessler is in over his head. Joe will UD him.

[Amsterdam]

Dawson if he gets past his madatory in Adrian Diaconu. Calzaghe would get massive props for such a fight early next year. :good

That's the fight I want, my favourite vs. a current top favourite. He'd get massive credit in a win or loss, it'd be close.

[Amsterdam]

Bhop is his best choice. BUT, you say he is old....he is also a top 5 p4per on just about every list you look at. On top of that, it would also be a HUGE purse....

So money and resume wise, Bernard is the most logical choice.

As for his fight with Kessler...I truely believe Kessler is in over his head. Joe will UD him.

Yes, for as excellent as Kessler is, he's going to be drowned in this bout.

But Hopkins is a logical money choice, but a worthless fight for the long time legacy even if he is technicall a 'top 5 P4P'. Would you rate a victory over Dawson if he defeats Diaconu higher than a victory over the older Hopkins?

I know I would. I just can't rate Hopkins as a true threat anymore to any skilled 168-175 level fighters. Wright and Tarver are different.

[sues2nd]

Yes, for as excellent as Kessler is, he's going to be drowned in this bout.

But Hopkins is a logical money choice, but a worthless fight for the long time legacy even if he is technicall a 'top 5 P4P'. Would you rate a victory over Dawson if he defeats Diaconu higher than a victory over the older Hopkins?

I know I would. I just can't rate Hopkins as a true threat anymore to any skilled 168-175 level fighters. Wright and Tarver are different.

In all honesty, I would give him more credit for beating an ATG in Hopkins, even at his advanced age, than I would for an untested Dawson, or the inevitable Kessler win :hey . Taylor would also be a great choice if he beats Pavlik (which I think he will). He is an undefeated, young great in the prime of his career and is a recogized p4p top 10 fighter.

But with the Hopkins thing, it would do plenty of things for Joe.

1- It would pretty much be a given to be in the US...and what better an introduction could Joe get than Bernard for the US crowds?
2- We already mentioned the money, but seriously, there isnt a fighter at or around that weight class that would get a better purse than Hop vs Joe.
3- Bernard is the best fighter of this era (arguably...and even arguably, he is top 3), for name recognition alone, this is win win.
4- Even if Joe were to lose (which I believe is a strong possibility...sorry but anyone who counts Hop out in ANY fight is just a maniac at this point....), at least it would be to a recognized top30 ATG...there is NO SHAME in that.

Like I said, other fighters would be nice wins....but Bernard is the logical choice win or lose.

:good

[Amsterdam]

In all honesty, I would give him more credit for beating an ATG in Hopkins, even at his advanced age, than I would for an untested Dawson, or the inevitable Kessler win :hey . Taylor would also be a great choice if he beats Pavlik (which I think he will). He is an undefeated, young great in the prime of his career and is a recogized p4p top 10 fighter.

Dawson is not 'untested' in the least bit, he virtually shutout the undefeated Adamek, nearly shutout a damn good LHW veteran in Eric Harding and is about to take on top 10 Adrian Diaconu.

You can judge Hopkins on legacy alone, I'm judging him on where he currently stands H2H in my opinion, not his 'name' or 'reputation' and Dawson is easily the best H2H LHW.

I hope you understood what I meant in that the Tarver and Wright victories are decieving people when Tarver is essentially at journeyman level and Wright really looked awful at 170 and is a small MW, not a SMW or a LHW and also getting up there in age.

Dawson and Kessler both are going to go on and accomplish great things, Joe Louis' win over Charles and Walcott weren't considered much at the time, but Charles and Walcott later established awesome victories and Louis' wins over them are now signature legacy wins late in his career... this is what I mean. Bernard is 42 and at the end of the line on what he can do, he will not defeat any young, fresh skilled SMW's or LHW's because he can no longer fire it off like he needs to.


But with the Hopkins thing, it would do plenty of things for Joe.

1- It would pretty much be a given to be in the US...and what better an introduction could Joe get than Bernard for the US crowds?
2- We already mentioned the money, but seriously, there isnt a fighter at or around that weight class that would get a better purse than Hop vs Joe.


Calzaghe said after Kessler there is only 2 fights left, he's ending his career very soon, even then, I'm not so sure Hopkins would realistically select Joe at this stage of the career.

A final unification with the Bute/Berrio winner would be a good notch before a Dawson type fight to give one final attempt.



3- Bernard is the best fighter of this era (arguably...and even arguably, he is top 3), for name recognition alone, this is win win.


Agreed, Bernard is a top 30 ATG, but at this point, he'd just be name recognition and not really much of a challenge and over time, this would be looked at as lesser than the MK win coming up.


4- Even if Joe were to lose (which I believe is a strong possibility...sorry but anyone who counts Hop out in ANY fight is just a maniac at this point....), at least it would be to a recognized top30 ATG...there is NO SHAME in that.


I am a Hopkins fan, from way back also, I've always been a fan of western fighters over Euro fighters generally, but I am judging him on where he physically stands and in my opinion, he's not a top 5 H2H fighter at 175 at this point, I feel even Johnson would get him right now judging from the Wright fight.


Like I said, other fighters would be nice wins....but Bernard is the logical choice win or lose.

:good


I'm wanting a real challenge though man, you can't blame me since most fighters are not a challenge to Joe. Prime Hopkins, hell yeah that's a fight for the ages, but Hopkins is showing his age and it's not much of a fight now.

Dawson is a true 50/50 fight, I really want it, I want to see the slightly declined Calzaghe really battle tested against a future HOF fighter.... win lose or draw.:good

[sues2nd]

Dawson is not 'untested' in the least bit, he virtually shutout the undefeated Adamek, nearly shutout a damn good LHW veteran in Eric Harding and is about to take on top 10 Adrian Diaconu.

Bad choice of words on my part. Dawson has fought some good comp, but no GREAT comp. Untested was rough....as I do believe he has some good wins, but if you look, they are not as good as it would seem.

Adamek in my opinion (which I got BLASTED for before the Dawson fight BTW) is overrated. He is good, but I dont believe he will ever be great....and at CW (which I believe he is at now) he is going to get HURT, he just gets hit too damn much.

You say Harding is a damn good LHW veteran, but you consider Tarver a journeyman now? Tarver DESTROYED HIM in their last meeting. He also lost to Johnson as well. He WAS a damn good LHW veteran, but he is way past it now....if anything, he is more of a journeyman than Tarver is.

So by untested, I meant against comp on the level of a Hopkins, a Calzaghe or even a Taylor at this point. I do believe he will be great....I love Dawson's potential, but a fight vs Calzaghe would be a HUGE step up for him.

Just my opinion on the guy....and again, untested = bad choice of words...but ya see where I was coming from now! :good

You can judge Hopkins on legacy alone, I'm judging him on where he currently stands H2H in my opinion, not his 'name' or 'reputation' and Dawson is easily the best H2H LHW.

Well its hard to look at the Wright fight and fairly judge Hopkins H2H ability. Wright may be small, but except for Hopkins and maybe Floyd, he is the best defensive fighter out there. NOONE is going to look good vs Wright. The fact that Hop won it clearly should speak to the level at which he is still able to compete.

Plus, as I said, he is still top5 p4p on most peoples lists.

I hope you understood what I meant in that the Tarver and Wright victories are decieving people when Tarver is essentially at journeyman level and Wright really looked awful at 170 and is a small MW, not a SMW or a LHW and also getting up there in age.

Tarver may have faded...tho I dont believe to the severity that you are eluding to....but he was still the recognized champ at LHW and Hop shut him out. The fight was a clinic. THAT, should speak more to Hop's H2H ability!

The Wright thing, I eluded to. Look at how other great defensive fighters were able to compete above their suited weightclass. Whitaker, Byrd, HOPKINS, Jones, etc. all made fighters who were bigger and stronger and better in some instances look bad even in losses at higher weights. Wright is a fighter that NOONE will EVER look good against, even in a win. But youll be hardpressed to find anyone who gave the fight to Winky....speaks volumes if you ask me.

Dawson and Kessler both are going to go on and accomplish great things, Joe Louis' win over Charles and Walcott weren't considered much at the time, but Charles and Walcott later established awesome victories and Louis' wins over them are now signature legacy wins late in his career... this is what I mean. Bernard is 42 and at the end of the line on what he can do, he will not defeat any young, fresh skilled SMW's or LHW's because he can no longer fire it off like he needs to.

I agree with most of this. And I understand the parrellels to Charles and Walcott, but again, it touches more on the (wrongly worded) point about how much they have been tested. Whether they go on to greatness or not....I think we can both agree that they probably wont reach half of what Hop has.

And as for Bernard vs younger fighters....I dont agree. He is arguably the best defensive fighter alive right now. Until he retires, he will give EVERYONE he fights a tough night. His style dictates that (much like Wright).

Calzaghe said after Kessler there is only 2 fights left, he's ending his career very soon, even then, I'm not so sure Hopkins would realistically select Joe at this stage of the career.

I think Hop would definately take (select) this fight. Joe is closing in on HIS record for defenses. Joe is a topten fighter who is HUGE draw (much of the same reasons Floyd is fighting Hatton). Joe is also a great fighter....something I think means something to Hop who isnt just trying to get paychecks anymore, but cement a legacy....just think of what a win vs Cazaghe would mean to Hops resume. I believe only a shot at the HW title (vs the right champ...Sultan/Holyfield maybe) would deter him from taking this one.

A final unification with the Bute/Berrio winner would be a good notch before a Dawson type fight to give one final attempt.

It would...but not on the level of Kessler, then Hop and if a win, close it out vs Dawson (who would be more thought of and higher ranked at that point).

Agreed, Bernard is a top 30 ATG, but at this point, he'd just be name recognition and not really much of a challenge and over time, this would be looked at as lesser than the MK win coming up.

Not necessesarily....Hop is an ATG, and if the fight is competative it will speak to the two's longevity and true greatness. And Im sorry, as I said, I just dont see ANYONE looking good vs Hopkins....he is just too freakishly good defensively.

I am a Hopkins fan, from way back also, I've always been a fan of western fighters over Euro fighters generally, but I am judging him on where he physically stands and in my opinion, he's not a top 5 H2H fighter at 175 at this point, I feel even Johnson would get him right now judging from the Wright fight.

And I am a Calzaghe fan, was actually one of the only "Yanks" (sorry couldnt help myself...:lol: ) who picked him vs Lacy and KNEW he would win.

But as I have stated. Hop shut Tarver out and clearly beat Winky (one of the best defensive fighters alive), I think most are severly underestimating how good he still is....especially H2H.

As for Johnson....cmon. I love Glen....I mean, how could anyone not. But this guys struggled vs Tarver (Hop schooled him...as well as schooled a PRIME Johnson) and Woods recently. He would lose vs Hop....badly again actually.

I'm wanting a real challenge though man, you can't blame me since most fighters are not a challenge to Joe. Prime Hopkins, hell yeah that's a fight for the ages, but Hopkins is showing his age and it's not much of a fight now.

Dawson is a true 50/50 fight, I really want it, I want to see the slightly declined Calzaghe really battle tested against a future HOF fighter.... win lose or draw.:good

Again, I think a Dawson fight would be good....but I think a Hopkins fight is just too much win/win for Joe to turn down. It truely makes the most sense.

And totally different from you, I see Hop winning. He has one of the best chins ever....as well as is one of the best defensive fighters ever....so Joe's power (RIDICULOUSLY UNDERRATED POWER BTW) isnt going to be a factor. And tho I can see Calzaghe outworking him for a decision, I can also see him getting countered ALLLLL NIGHT as well. I think this would be a better fight than most would expect.

And damn I hope it happens. Just imagine what both fighters names would mean to the others legacy?

:good

[aliwasthegreatest]

Dawson

[PH|LLA]

Hopkins OF COURSE

[dave82]

All you guys do is make excuses for fighters when they lose . Hello :hi: Tarver and Wright where the favorites when they fought Hopkins . Now there a Journeyman and out of shape . Cut the bullshit . Hopkins will crush Calzaghe , even at 43 ! As long as Calzaghe beats Kessler it will happen . Unless Joe finds a way out of it !

I agree, with you on most things however i don't think Bhop will crush JC, i think Hop takes a close UD. I believe Bhop will benefit best by sparring with the people inin the below vid.
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[Lance_Uppercut]

Move up to 175 and fight Hopkins.

[PrideOfWales]

I think JC-Bhop happens if Joe beats Kessler. There's nothing really to lose for Joe. He's certainly not going to be knocked out by one punch and his imense workrate will see him get lots of success in the fight. The talk about Hopkins last four opponents being better than Calzaghe's whole resume has some credability (should you live in the US), but people looking in can see that:

a) Calzaghe actually throws punches and will be in shape(opposed to Winky Wright)
b) Can mix it up by boxing & brawling (opposed to Tarver being a great wet lettuce)
c) Will be insanely busy all fight

JC will pose problems to Hopkins (like speed, boxing ability and heart - attributes severely lacking from Bernard's last few opponents) that he's not had for years and years. This fight will show Hopkins true age.

But first, let's think about a more important fight: Mikkel Kessler. Hopkins means nothing in Denmark.

[brooklyn1550]

Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins or "Bad" Chad Dawson

[goofy]

Dawson won't be champ anymore after sept 29.

very true my friend ...very true :deal

[psychopath]

As you yanks all slag him off for not fighting the best(and i have come to believe SOME truth in what your saying),who do you think he can fight next and get true credit for beating,imo theres none,bhop is too old,taylor too small,winky,well he just lost to bhop.
Whats his next steps after the big dane,or is he fighting a losing battle to get the respect he deserves from you lot.
Opinions please(no calzaghe wannabies/haters)

He can chose between Ivan Calderon and Eagle Kyowa.

The fights should happen at the back of his house with his wife, Uncle and grand Pa as judges. Or if that's still inconvenient for him . . . it can also be inside his garage. :yep :hi: :good

[teekay00]

he will definately fight someone from the US whether he wins or loses to Kessler. i want to see jc fight bhop, and they both have been saying they want eachother for a while. this will be a huge payday for both and thats what they both want, cashhhh. if calzaghe doesnt fight bhop he will fight an American. i would like to see him fight jermaine taylor or pavlik, whoever wins.

[Taffyy]

All you guys do is make excuses for fighters when they lose . Hello :hi: Tarver and Wright where the favorites when they fought Hopkins . Now there a Journeyman and out of shape . Cut the bullshit . Hopkins will crush Calzaghe , even at 43 ! As long as Calzaghe beats Kessler it will happen . Unless Joe finds a way out of it !
:patsch :patsch :patsch ............. Crush Calzaghe................:rofl
Grown up son !!!!............It would be close but I think Joe could really make Hop look his age, Its the buisiness he brings & contstant workrate , In Bernards prime an awsome prospect but now JC takes a UD........If he beats Kessler its on to take Taylor/Pavlik maybe he will fight Hop as well................Seriously what kind of thoughts will people have of JC if he beats Kessler/Hopkins/Taylor in his last 3 fight..???

[hazbo]

thts if joe wins yea his mint and tht but so is kessler so we will have to see wot happens.

[Orang-Utan Jim]

If he loses to Kessler, he will make big announcements, but fight one bum after another....

If he wins vs. Kessler, he will make big announcements, but fight one bum after another....

[Decebal]

It is more than likely that Joe will want a big money fight after Kessler, if he beats Mikkel. After all, he has suggested so himself in that interview with that annoying woman...(I cannot find it, someone might be kind enough to post it...) also, he will want to fight a NAME, even if they are not dangerous to him/a live threat, because it will help him climb up the American-biased rankings. This is not what Joe would have wanted, but this is how things stand, so he will have to play the game; for money and for his legacy he will fight a NAME - most probably Hopkins, whom he will easily beat. A shame really...let us hope Joe thinks better of it, and does the right thing, as he has done by taking on Kessler.

Joe would be very well advised not to "throw good money after bad" as he has done for long stretches of his career, most obviously particularly lately, and screw the American-biased media and their silly rankings and instead concentrate on his LONG-TERM legacy WITH REAL, KNOWLEDGEABLE FANS and fight, like he is doing now, LIVE threats, dangerous opponents, the best out there, not have-been NAMES.

Thus, if I was advising Joe, I would say:

"Joe, it is a great thing you are doing fighting Kessler! After Kessler, you should AGAIN, fight the best out there, whomever it happens to be from 168-175, whether the winner of Berrio v. Bute or the winner of Taylor v. Pavlik or the winner of Dawson v. Diaconu - pick the winner who is the most dangerous and best, and fight him first, and then fight whomever is best of the rest! This is how you will secure your legacy and win the love and respect even of your harshest of critics, Joe!"

Come on, Joe!:happy

[English Nutter]

Why is it that all you yanks slag calzaghe off for fighting in his own back yard,when have any of your guys(hopkins,wright,taylor etc)fought outside America? as for Bhop Vs Calzaghe,why would calzaghe fight him in America when theres more money to be made over here:huh

[Smazz20]

I'd rather see him fight the winner of Taylor-Pavlik next. Both of them are very big men and whoever wins that fight, would be the undisputed middle champ. That's two out of two fights for Calzaghe where he's beaten world class fighters. Then go after Dawson and if he could stretch his career for just one more fight?? I'd go with Woods.

[Fab2333]

Chad Dawson at 175
Roy Jones
B-Hop
JT

Theres alot of options out there 4 him

[English Nutter]

Chad Dawson at 175
Roy Jones
B-Hop
JT

Theres alot of options out there 4 him Chad Dawson: not a big enough name outside America
Roy Jones: too old
Bhop: too old
JT: has already said he doesn't wanna fight Calzaghe and too small.


These are not my opinions but are excuses everyone will give for calzghe fighting/beating these opponents,that is why he's in a no win situation imo

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

Trinidad or Me that will cement his legacy as ATG hahaha but Hopkins is the Logical choice

[Decebal]

Chad Dawson: not a big enough name outside America
Roy Jones: too old
Bhop: too old
JT: has already said he doesn't wanna fight Calzaghe and too small.


These are not my opinions but are excuses everyone will give for calzghe fighting/beating these opponents,that is why he's in a no win situation imo

Wrong! Anybody who says JC is in a no win situation is either just making excuses for him and blaming the big, bad world instead, promoting the myth that all is fair in love, war and professional boxing. Every fighter, big or small has a duty to do their best to stand up for what is right, and not take the easy way out just because the climate surrounding and influencing the sport is corrupting.

What is more, saying he is in a no-win situation is plain wrong! His legacy, and the respect and love of fans of boxing would be cemented more if he fought the best out there than if he beat up a tired-old NAME.

[Fab2333]

We wouldn't care if he at least fought someone with a pulse ! Anyways , People want to see him fight in the U.S so he won't have the luxury of a Manfredo type stoppage against a live opponent . Plus we all know he was blood doping over there in the UK where it's legal . That's why he never took a deep breath in the whole Lacy fight . We know he won't get away with that shit over here ! So does he !:prison:thumbsup

[Grabonator]

I would have no problem if he retires after he beats Kessler. He wold have nothing to prove, propably earned enough money and hes getting old. He could retire as an undefeated champion.

[safe_pa]

We wouldn't care if he at least fought someone with a pulse ! Anyways , People want to see him fight in the U.S so he won't have the luxury of a Manfredo type stoppage against a live opponent . Plus we all know he was blood doping over there in the UK where it's legal . That's why he never took a deep breath in the whole Lacy fight . We know he won't get away with that shit over here ! So does he !:prison

Fucking awesome excuse for Jeff being schooled, I'm so convinced I don't even need to see proof.

[Korn_06]

It is really exiting with the change of generations going on at the moment. Pavlik takes MW, Kessler SMW and Dawson fast on the way in LH. Meanwhile the vanquished and the dinosaurs, Taylor, Calzaghe, Hopkins etc. will be lurking arround looking to get back into the mix. They might create an upset or 2 but the young ones are the future.

Very exiting indeed.

[English Nutter]

We wouldn't care if he at least fought someone with a pulse ! Anyways , People want to see him fight in the U.S so he won't have the luxury of a Manfredo type stoppage against a live opponent . Plus we all know he was blood doping over there in the UK where it's legal . That's why he never took a deep breath in the whole Lacy fight . We know he won't get away with that shit over here ! So does he !:prison ha ha,you dont half talk some shit mate,if you actually knew anythin about him you'd realise he's got imense stamina,thats why he's so good.:nono
As for the Dodgy stoppage,every Country is biased towards there own,i seem to remember lacy's last fight was a farse,how the hell did he win that.
You lot have got the most dodgy judges on the planet:naughty .
The main point is more people would watch it over here,in other words more money to be made.
Boxing is slowy dieing in your country mate,if i was you i'd stick to the sports no one else in the world give a fuck bout like baseball,basketball and American football,touchdown!! ha ha:yep

[safe_pa]

You sound like a girl telling her parents about her questionable boyfriend ! " You don't know him , You don't understand " . Just finish it , You love him !:love ...And if boxing is dying in this country then it never existed in yours :thumbsup

You are the one making up facts to prove a point, illegal blood doping :rofl

[teekay00]

the last few times i have seen Bernard Hopkins interviewed he has said, Calzaghe, I AM COMING FOR YOU! Calzaghe has said he want to fight a US fighter to get his name big in the US because he is not big here and also because he can make a lot of money on PPV. JC is always naming Hopkins as one of the top fighters he would want to fight. Hopkins really wants this fight, he is 42 and JC is 35 it will happen because they both know they are getting old. This will be a big pay day and that is why Bernard Hopkins is still fighting. I say this fight is still gonna happen even if Calzaghe loses to Kessler.

[China_hand_Joe]

the last few times i have seen Bernard Hopkins interviewed he has said, Calzaghe, I AM COMING FOR YOU! Calzaghe has said he want to fight a US fighter to get his name big in the US because he is not big here and also because he can make a lot of money on PPV. JC is always naming Hopkins as one of the top fighters he would want to fight. Hopkins really wants this fight, he is 42 and JC is 35 it will happen because they both know they are getting old. This will be a big pay day and that is why Bernard Hopkins is still fighting. I say this fight is still gonna happen even if Calzaghe loses to Kessler.Did Hopkins specify a time next year -questionmark- I hope he wasn't just calling Joe out because he is preoccupied with Kessler right now.

[Lance_Uppercut]

If he doesn't move up in weight he's afraid of something...

[PATSYS]

Hopkins or the winner of Taylor-Pavlik

[David UK]

All you guys do is make excuses for fighters when they lose . Hello :hi: Tarver and Wright where the favorites when they fought Hopkins . Now there a Journeyman and out of shape . Cut the bullshit . Hopkins will crush Calzaghe , even at 43 ! As long as Calzaghe beats Kessler it will happen . Unless Joe finds a way out of it !

Despite the fact that it was Hopkins who found 'a way out of it'(a Calzaghe fight) a couple of years ago?

[van the man]

the last few times i have seen Bernard Hopkins interviewed he has said, Calzaghe, I AM COMING FOR YOU! Calzaghe has said he want to fight a US fighter to get his name big in the US because he is not big here and also because he can make a lot of money on PPV. JC is always naming Hopkins as one of the top fighters he would want to fight. Hopkins really wants this fight, he is 42 and JC is 35 it will happen because they both know they are getting old. This will be a big pay day and that is why Bernard Hopkins is still fighting. I say this fight is still gonna happen even if Calzaghe loses to Kessler.

funny thing that first in a age of 35 he wanna go to us to make him self known over there! why the hell didnt he do that a long time ago:huh
look at kessler fighting mundine down under and now calzaghe in wales and after nov 3rd the HBO want him fighting in US against 4 americans!
and hey...hes only 28!
think about all the years jc have waisted fighting at home.

[Spitfire7]

Just like Tito, a ghost called "Retirement...":D

[sean]

personally i would be happy if calzaghe scrapped past kessler, before worrting what calzaghe will do after.

whatever happens IMO it will be a long tough fight v kessler and calzaghe will take a rest if he wins.

its not as if calzaghe has ever been an active 4 fights a year fighter anyway.

[T.C.W]

Hopkins or Talyor.

[English Nutter]

funny thing that first in a age of 35 he wanna go to us to make him self known over there! why the hell didnt he do that a long time ago:huh
look at kessler fighting mundine down under and now calzaghe in wales and after nov 3rd the HBO want him fighting in US against 4 americans!
and hey...hes only 28!
think about all the years jc have waisted fighting at home. This pre-concepted thing that you have to fight in America to make it big is absoulute bullocks,what Americans fight outside America regurly eh? The reason he aint done it before is cos there aint been nobody to fight,yeh he's been guilty of not always goin for the best fight's,but to say he's gotta go to the states to make is big is bullshit:nono

[Guru_Too_You]

As you yanks all slag him off for not fighting the best(and i have come to believe SOME truth in what your saying),who do you think he can fight next and get true credit for beating,imo theres none,bhop is too old,taylor too small,winky,well he just lost to bhop.
Whats his next steps after the big dane,or is he fighting a losing battle to get the respect he deserves from you lot.
Opinions please(no calzaghe wannabies/haters)

Somebody to get back into title contention.

[safe_pa]

Why don't you cry about it ?

Yeah you're right I should cry, reading something thats been made up by a guy I don't know or will ever meet really gets to me :patsch
Grow up man.

[maciek4]

After he gets beat by Kessler he can fight Taylor after he gets stopped by Pavlik.

[sues2nd]

Despite the fact that it was Hopkins who found 'a way out of it'(a Calzaghe fight) a couple of years ago?

:patsch

That is all you get....do some homework on a subject before making ridiculous claims.

[Richel Hersisia]

B-hop, Taylor or Froch seems to be the most likely opponent.

[safe_pa]

I'm not the one with a school girl like crush on another man !:love

Your debate skills are unrivaled, you are clearly very superior to every other poster, first you make up lies then when questioned about those lies you say people have a crush on Calzaghe. Great logic. You say shit about Calzahge like your his ex. Or maybe you lost some money on the lacy fight?
Either way your continued posts prove only one thing, You sir are a fool. Don't bother to reply as I am adding you to my ignore list. If I wanted to read shit I'd buy the sun newspaper.

[box03]

Hopkins is the frontrunner to fight Calazaghe if he wins the kessler fight. If the money is there hopkins will fight him

[Rock0052]

It's got to be Hopkins. The second choice is Taylor if he surprises me and beats Pavlik.

I'd love to see him fight Dawson, but I honestly think it's too soon. Outside of loyal Dawson fans, he's not as well known as Hopkins or Taylor, and if Joe won, people would be more likely to just say Dawson was overrated and a hype job like they did with Lacy, even though Dawson is legit. Lacy was a world class fighter, and look how much hate he got after the fight. If Dawson wins convincingly against Diaconu and then has another one or two impressive outings after that, he'd be validated to pretty much everyone- and he'd make the perfect fight for Joe to retire after.

Also, Dawson's the highest risk fight for him out of the 3 at this stage. High risk, low reward, not as profitable- that's not a trio of qualities that makes me think he'd be next.

The quickest way to get mainstream respect is to break into that old circle of fighters who are always ranked because they fight against each other- Winky, Taylor, and Hopkins (Tarver was in this as well before Hopkins bashed him). Winky is the least attractive option of the 3 right now.

Joe might as well go for the guy most still have at the top of the LHW division- Hopkins, who also has name recognition and is an easier fight. Taylor, if he wins, would be my 1b choice for pretty much the same reasons. Both would be more profitable for Calzaghe at this stage as well.

[Decebal]

personally i would be happy if calzaghe scrapped past kessler, before worrting what calzaghe will do after.

whatever happens IMO it will be a long tough fight v kessler and calzaghe will take a rest if he wins.

its not as if calzaghe has ever been an active 4 fights a year fighter anyway.

JC will take a break, for sure...but how long a break it will be it depends:-

if he fights just one more fight against Bhop, it doesn't matter how long his break is - in fact the longer the better. However, if he fights Taylor/Pavlik, Dawson/Diaconu or Berrio/Bute...he might not want to wait so long. Hopefully (for him and for the sport) he will do the latter.

[Amsterdam]

JC will take a break, for sure...but how long a break it will be it depends:-

if he fights just one more fight against Bhop, it doesn't matter how long his break is - in fact the longer the better. However, if he fights Taylor/Pavlik, Dawson/Diaconu or Berrio/Bute...he might not want to wait so long. Hopefully (for him and for the sport) he will do the latter.

Most people feel a win over the old gentleman, meaning Hopkins, is superior to any of those. I'm glad we know better.:D

[English Nutter]

:patsch

That is all you get....do some homework on a subject before making ridiculous claims. Calzaghe agreed to fight Bhop a few years back only for popkins to double his demands,whether he was ducking Calzaghe remains to be seen.
All i can say is that Calzaghe agreed to fight him so it's up to everyone else to decide who ducked who:think

[Drofrah]

Id like to see him fight Taylor

[English Nutter]

Id like to see him fight Taylor Taylors already said he wont go up to 168

[Decebal]

Most people feel a win over the old gentleman, meaning Hopkins, is superior to any of those. I'm glad we know better.:D

We know better, JC knows better, ****** knows better; everyone except The Ring et co knows better; that doesn't mean that JC will do the right thing, though, especially since in the establishment's eyes, he would be considered to be doing the wrong thing. Still, I hope that he will turn his back on the establishment that has sold him down the river for so long and will claim his own legacy in his own name, as every great boxer should. He would be contributing a lot to his legacy and to the sport in so doing. God knows the sport is in need of all the honest, true men it can get to fly its colours.

[Drofrah]

Taylors already said he wont go up to 168

Not much left for Taylor if he beats Pavlik though. He might consider it if he deals with Kelly easier than he thought

[THN]

As you yanks all slag him off for not fighting the best(and i have come to believe SOME truth in what your saying),who do you think he can fight next and get true credit for beating,imo theres none,bhop is too old,taylor too small,winky,well he just lost to bhop.
Whats his next steps after the big dane,or is he fighting a losing battle to get the respect he deserves from you lot.
Opinions please(no calzaghe wannabies/haters)
He should not make further plans before he have beaten Kessler,
if that happen he should meet another serius boxer and not an old Hopkins.
But dont worry it wont happen Kessler will win, and Calzaghe can have
a remacth with Manfredo.:yep

[yesihavearm]

Taylors already said he wont go up to 168

That's why it says on his OFFICIAL website that this is his last fight at 160 and his next one will definatly be at 186.

Nice.

[THN]

That's why it says on his OFFICIAL website that this is his last fight at 160 and his next one will definatly be at 186.

Nice.
Waw i didnt realize he would be that heavy:D :D :D