Rocky Marciano vs Mike Tyson

[pijo]

Who wins a prime tyson or Marciano?

[rendog67]

I would take Tyson by K.O but who knows if Rocky lasted 5-6 rounds he could maybe pull one out of the bag and stop mike late.

[marauder1999]

Tyson would pummel him and if he didnt get to do that he would eat his children---wait,,, did Rocky have children?

[PATSYS]

Tyson was faster, hits harder, better defense and prolly better chin too. Marciano has great stamina but that wouldn't matter as he will not last 6 rounds with a prime Tyson anyway.

[Imperial1]

Marciano beats his ass !! What does Tyson do when Rocy weathers that storm ?

[Quik]

Marciano by late KO if its a 15 rounds fight since he has a lot of stamina. He would take Tyson's bombs in the beginning of the fight and KO a exhausted Tyson by the end of the fight.

[King Dan]

Marciano beats his ass !! What does Tyson do when Rocy weathers that storm ?

This is the correct question/answer.

Marciano weathers the storm and stops Tyson late.

[ripcity]

You allways have to give Marciano a chance with anyone he coud reach and he could reach Tyson. However Tyson was just as good at avoiding punches as he was at landing them.
There would be a lot of action and Marciano is dangures as long as the fight keeps going. In the end Tyson is to fast. yson scores at least one knockdown in the fight posibily more. I can see Marciano beating the count on the first knockdown, but with each knockdown that fallows the chances go down. I also think if Tyson scores 3 knockdowns which is likly the ref would stop the fight.

[RonnieHornschuh]

tyson by ko. marciano never faced a fighter like prime tyson, not even close.

[Jazzo]

The logical answer is Tyson.

Marciano can only rely on intangibles.

[josak]

This is the correct question/answer.

Marciano weathers the storm and stops Tyson late.
Why is that some people think that if you survive the early attack of prime Tyson, that somehow guarantees you victory in the fight? The Tyson of old wasnt' the same guy in the late 90's, 2000 who gave up after a few rounds. He could knock you out at any point in the fight. See: Ribalta, Thomas, Ruddock, or any of his fights where he went the distance, and you'll see that he's active the whole time. Tyson had GREAT stamina in his prime, yes I said great stamina. He never gassed out back then -- he slowed down in some instances but nothing more.

I can't ever see a small guy like Marciano beating Tyson, even if his life depended on it.

[ChampionsForever]

Marciano by late KO if its a 15 rounds fight since he has a lot of stamina. He would take Tyson's bombs in the beginning of the fight and KO a exhausted Tyson by the end of the fight.

When did a prime Tyson ever get exhausted?? even in the Buster fight he went down swinging.

Tyson would brutalise Marciano, there would be no weathering the storm.

[King Dan]

Tyson nuthuggers always think Tyson will win. :D

[ripcity]

Tyson nuthuggers always think Tyson will win. :D
And I'm sure Marciano's would think he would win.:D

[joe the great]

Marciano would back Tyson up and knock him out. Tyson can't fight well backing up against good fighters.

[Skital]

Tyson by brutal KO.

[brooklyn1550]

Tyson by early TKO

[A-50]

Marciano would make Tyson quit on his stool.

[JediPimp007]

Marciano would make Tyson quit on his stool.

Tyson would make Marciano shit a stool

[pipe wrenched]

im not educated enough on Marciano to say possitively.

[knockout]

Tyson of corse he has better all round skills,Marciano face is gonna look like a beat up steak when Tyson through him.

[psychopath]

Who wins a prime tyson or Marciano?

Tyson makes Marciano his live punching bag. :yep

Damn Bro., it's not that hard to see that Marciano is very much hittable.

[McGrain]

If Mike can hit Marciano clean then he takes it. If Marciano can get into the middle rounds, he's a live dog. Basically i'd expect this one to turn out very differently each time, but on the night, my money would be on Mike by way of an early KO.

[Max Molyneux]

Would Marciano foul his way to victory?

[aliwasthegreatest]

Tyson didn't just quit in his prime thats silly. and how is marciano supposed to back up the bigger, stronger man? he'd get brutilized

[Pantera]

These days Marciano would be able to juice up and be bigger than he was. His training probably would be different too. But if you take Marciano the way he was... I find it very difficult for him to beat Mike.

The problem with Rocky was that he was too hittable. And very few people survived being hit in the face by Mike Tyson. Once he hit you, you stayed hit.

[PATSYS]

Even the 90s Tyson would be too much for the small Rocky. Yeah Tyson gets exhausted after 6 rounds but that wouldn't matter because this fight isn't going more than 6 rounds.

Tyson starts fast and will definitely land a lot of bombs on Marciano.

Fight gets stopped on cut, Tyson wins by TKO.

[Jinx]

Marciano by late KO if its a 15 rounds fight since he has a lot of stamina. He would take Tyson's bombs in the beginning of the fight and KO a exhausted Tyson by the end of the fight.

Marciano was struggling and was dropped by an ancient Jersey Joe Walcott, who weighed about 190 lbs...no way he takes Tyson's shots, Marciano would be a cruiser if he fought today...

[hellblazer]

Tyson by K.O!!

[Silver]

tyson by brutal mid-rd ko.

[emanuel_augustus]

Tyson ko 5

[BobDigi5060]

Iron Mike.

[psychopath]

Tyson nuthuggers always think Tyson will win. :D

Well why don't you explain how you see Marciano winning . . . instead of posting that idiotic one liner? :yep

Have you seen video's of how Marciano fights? :think

[Maxmomer]

Tyson's got Marciano beat at everything besides chin and mental toughness. With his lack of defense, there's no way he's going to survive long against someone as fast, accurate and powerful as Tyson.

[Jinx]

Tyson's got Marciano beat at everything besides chin and mental toughness. With his lack of defense, there's no way he's going to survive long against someone as fast, accurate and powerful as Tyson.

Marciano was dropped by a 40 yr old Walcott, who weighed 190 lbs...he was also dumped by a 180 lbs Archie Moore...Tyson is a much bigger man with a stronger chin than Marciano...guys like Bruno and Ruddock would murder Marciano with their punches...

[HammerHead]

I think its naive to assume Marciano couldn't compete with bigger men.

The winner in a Fishing Contest is the guy with the biggest fish. Prizefighting is not a fishing contest -if the bigger boxer was automatically declared the winner we would never get past the freakin weigh-in!
You can't measure a fighter's worth by the pound.
The bigger man isn't always the better man; Max Baer (the smaller man by 60 pounds ) beat Big Primo Carnera & decked him eleven times. Dempsey destroyed Big Jess Willard. What happened to Big Michael Grant? Big "Goofi " Whitaker ? Why are people so impressed by a lumbering giant like Valuev?

[huki]

This would be an easy win for Tyson. Anyone that thinks Rocky has any kind of chance in this matchup is choosing with their heart, not their brain.

[PATSYS]

I think its naive to assume Marciano couldn't compete with bigger men.

The winner in a Fishing Contest is the guy with the biggest fish. Prizefighting is not a fishing contest -if the bigger boxer was automatically declared the winner we would never get past the freakin weigh-in!
You can't measure a fighter's worth by the pound.
The bigger man isn't always the better man; Max Baer (the smaller man by 60 pounds ) beat Big Primo Carnera & decked him eleven times. Dempsey destroyed Big Jess Willard. What happened to Big Michael Grant? Big "Goofi " Whitaker ? Why are people so impressed by a lumbering giant like Valuev?

We are not talking here of those huge but unskilled fighters. We are talking here of Mike Tyson, who at his fittest, was about 30-40 lbs bigger than Marciano.

[Brendan]

At 190, that'd be one Hell of a fight.

[Mob]

A prime Mike Tyson would be significantly bigger than a prime Rocky, PLUS......he would be a bunch faster and stronger.

No dissing Rock here....but this would be a fucking mismatch.

Tyson jumps on him early, cuts him up and drops him twice en route to a referee stoppage in the 3rd round.

[fists of fury]

Marciano had certain intangibles that were kryptonite for Tyson, such as an immense will to win, dogged determination and an iron chin. Those three things rolled into one would give Tyson trouble.

Problem for Rocky is Tyson's blazing hands and massive punch. If Marciano got sloppy or careless he would get punished. Marciano's defence was better than most give him credit for, but still Tyson will land on him, of that there's no doubt.

IF Marciano (and it's a big if) gets Tyson into the 5th or 6th round, it means he's weathered the storm, and HIS great qualities wouls start shining through.
Somehow though, I think Tyson would be too strong for the Rock. His speed would allow him to land on Rocky often enough, and his power would be too much.
Rocky goes down swinging in the 3rd.

[freesix88]

Agree

Or Tyson will win by a early ko (this is the most likely)
Or Marciano will win by a ko in the late rounds.

[Box-on]

Tyson by KO within 5 rounds.

[Sister Sledge]

Marciano would be a little too easy to hit to survivie a Tyson onlsaught. The problem for Rocky is that he is a slow starter, and Mike starts off so fast. Rocky would be gone by the 3rd round.

[Ted Stickles]

Marciano would have to be bulked up a little and his best chances would be later in the fight where Tyson was vulnerable...

[Luigi1985]

You don´t need to ask in the General Boxing Forum who wins between 2 ATg´s when Marciano is in too, he´s one of the most hated here, 80 % here even thinks that Fields or Valuev would easily KO him because both are so big whether he was so "small", Tyson, one of the most overrated figthers who never beat a great fighter in his prime, is so heavily favoured here, that says all...

[joe the great]

Tyson would make Marciano shit a stool
Only great fighters like Kevin Mc Bride can make Tyson quit on his stool.

[El Bombasto]

tyson probably knocks him out in under 8

[Hank]

I don't think Tyson hits harder. Just cause a guy weighs more does not make him harder hitter than another guy.

[box03]

Marciano was a tough 5 10 185 pound guy that knew how to put every pound of it into his punch, his chin was strong also. Its doubtful mike intimidates rock, what people dont understand about rocky he was a clumsy guy who possed alot less skill than mike. In my opinion Mike was just too skilled for rocky thats the difference, I see Mike having his way with him until he eventually stops him late in fight.

[Peter S. A.]

If an old Archie Moore could knock down and almost win over Rocky. What do You really think a prime Mike Tyson would do to him?

[Alo2006]

Tyson

[ironchamp]

Marciano beats his ass !! What does Tyson do when Rocy weathers that storm ?

He settles for the UD

[ironchamp]

People talk about "weathering the storm" and "intangibles" like its a power bar that gives you energy mid fight. Even if Marciano lasts until the 6th round his intangibles arent going to make him all of a sudden more accurate, more elusive or less immune to damage. His intagibles simply means that he will do everything in his power to win even if in the most dire circumstances. Intangibles come in to play when its a closely even match up. But in this case Rocky presents no stylistic advantage other than "intangibles" that would give Mike trouble.


Tyson KO4

[joe the great]

If an old Archie Moore could knock down and almost win over Rocky. What do You really think a prime Mike Tyson would do to him?
Tyson fell on his butt after missing a punch against Staewrt and he was knocked down in the 6th by Holy. Holy punching is decent but he has never been known for being a ppower puncher.

[Toopretty]

Fucking bunch of morons...Marciano had a good chin and good power with his haymakers..Mike is not getting hit by haymakers...Rock had no real defense and was open to be countered....Tyson would land a vicious combo and but him down. Tyson had more power...b/c he had more speed and power combination and was a precision puncher...short..crisp hard ass shots...if he didnt we would not be talking about Mike right now.

[dave82]

Tyson, way too strong and way too fast for Rocky. Tyson tko 5

[Vantage_West]

Marciano beats his ass !! What does Tyson do when Rocy weathers that storm ?outbox him...tony tucker,ruddock he went to the jab somthing surprising after 7 rounds tyson gets tired and the combo punching just wont work. he will jab and move i hae seen it happen lewis had problems getting past tysons jab.
anyone agree with me here:huh

[Guru_Too_You]

This is the correct question/answer.

Marciano weathers the storm and stops Tyson late.

LOL.

A 185 pound Marciano cannot stand up to Tyson. What's he gonna do? Box effectively and use his jab to keep Mike off?

And give Marciano the gloves Tyson had to use and his power is severely depleted. Give Tyson the gloves that Marciano used, and Marciano will die.

Seriously, he'd probably die.

[Toopretty]

:goodLOL.

A 185 pound Marciano cannot stand up to Tyson. What's he gonna do? Box effectively and use his jab to keep Mike off?

And give Marciano the gloves Tyson had to use and his power is severely depleted. Give Tyson the gloves that Marciano used, and Marciano will die.

Seriously, he'd probably die.


:good:good:good:yep:yep

[Guru_Too_You]

My EXACT thoughts. Well said.

Thanks Boss.

Upstate NY Represent.

[Dempsey1238]

Would Marciano foul his way to victory?

If he needed to, than yes, He was known for headbutts, elbows and kidney punchings. Oh yeah and hitting when down.

For my money, Marciano fights Tyson chest to chest, not giving Tyson any punching room for the power punchings which Tyson would need mid ring. Tyson may knock Marciano down a few times, but Marciano's never say die will win him the war of WILLS. This is a fight that will go down with Wills imo. And Marciano knocks Tyson out in about the tenth round after a action pack fight. And like Holyfiled, Marciano will use the clichs if need to.

[TheGreat]

Tyson is not only bigger and stronger but also to fast and to skilled defensively as well, Marciano would eat alot of leather and be stopped IMO.

[TheGreat]

What?Are you saying that Louis could not compete with the fighters from 1980 onwards? That is funny. Louis could break your ribs from just a couple inches out. He would weave into guys like Tyson, Lewis and the Klits and knowck them into next week.

There was way more competetion in the boxing ring in the old days. That is a fact. There were fighters crawling out of the wood work. Boxing was king. Now it is a side show with very little competition and you guys are saying a loser like weak minded Tyson would beat one of the best from boxings greatest days. This is strange to say the least.

You act like Tyson wasn't a great fighter either and BTW Marciano beat alot of old 38 yr old LHWs, Tyson, Liston, and foreman would have all retired undefeated against the guys he fought IMO.

[carras]

Prime tyson is all wrong for Rocky.
He beats rock like he stole something.

[ironchamp]

Why are you rounding up? Walcott was 38 for their first fight and he was in great shape.

It sure is funny reading posts by a bunch of high school kids about how Tyson was so much better than Marciano.

Children, Tyson was king when the HW division sucked. When he finally started fighting guys like Holyfield who was a cruiserweight he got his ass kicked. Tyson is a little boy. You bully him around and he folds.

This is how it breaks down.

1) Tyson talks shit for the entire pre fight
2) Tyson does a viscious stare down during the ref's instructions at the beginning of the fight. Rocky has no expression at all which starts to make Tyson think. (Think to his best ability that is)
3) Tyson comes out strong and realizes that Marciano doesn't even get fazed from his biggest bombs. Tyson even feels the pain when they bump into each other. (Marciano was known to just hurt you when you collided with him since he was so solid)
4) Rocky swings away missing a large percentage. Tyson doesn't get many in either. Yes, Marciano is not that easy to hit. Even the great but aged Joe Louis did not get many clean shots on Marciano. PLEASE don't say that Louis was shot so it doesn't matter. Louis is by far the best HW of all time and fought his way back up the ranks for his shot at the title with Rocky.
5) Tyson starts to doubt himself and realizes why they call him the Rock.
6) Rocky starts to land on the fading Tyson
7) FUCKING WHAM!! Tyson goes down and is carried out by a stretcher. It is a total fucking KO. Tyson shits his pants and his followers all start to talk about how he wasn't really all that great anyway.

Face it guys, Rocky ruled during the heyday of boxing which was for you that don't know, was the early 30's through the last days of Ali. Since Ali, the HW division has been weak. Just because Tyson was king when you were little doesn't mean shit. He wasn't that good.


You're hatred of Tyson and love for Marciano has helped you produce by far the most ridiculous post Ive seen on the matter. Its one thing to have Rocky winning but an entirely different thing to produce an argument that has no merit.

Point is that Rocky Marciano has nothing going into this fight that will give him any type of advantage over Tyson. Tyson is not only the bigger puncher but has the better chin, technique, defense and most importantly hand speed that will guide him to a decisive victory. Rocky is not a clincher, not does he have a jab that can offset Tyson's rhythm. He doesnt bring anything to the table that can offset Tyson's foward momentum.

[Rumsfeld]

Either Tyson wins via early KO or Marciano wins via mid/late round stoppage.

It could go either way.

Take Tyson out of his 1986-1988 window and I'd certainly favor Marciano.

[Guru_Too_You]

OLD-TIMERS AND NOSTALGIC FANS, PLEASE ANSWER ME THIS.

If you take the gloves worn into account, how on earth can you see Marciano hurting Tyson with today's gloves, or Marciano surviving with the gloves of Rocky's days.

PLEASE EXPLAIN.

[Rumsfeld]

OLD-TIMERS AND NOSTALGIC FANS, PLEASE ANSWER ME THIS.

If you take the gloves worn into account, how on earth can you see Marciano hurting Tyson with today's gloves, or Marciano surviving with the gloves of Rocky's days.

PLEASE EXPLAIN.

Once warmed up, Marciano was often relentless in his attack and he packed some nice pop in his punches.

He might not be able to survive an early onslaught from Tyson, regardless of the gloves, but Rocky was one of the most determined fighters I've ever seen.

I'm a strong believer in the importance of the mental aspect of the fight game, and it's here where Marciano held a huge advantage over Tyson.

Would it be enough? Tough to say.

But if Marciano DID survive Tyson's early onslaught, this wouldn't bode well for Mike.

[Guru_Too_You]

Once warmed up, Marciano was often relentless in his attack and he packed some nice pop in his punches.

He might not be able to survive an early onslaught from Tyson, regardless of the gloves, but Rocky was one of the most determined fighters I've ever seen.

I'm a strong believer in the importance of the mental aspect of the fight game, and it's here where Marciano held a huge advantage over Tyson.

Would it be enough? Tough to say.

But if Marciano DID survive Tyson's early onslaught, this wouldn't bode well for Mike.

I agree with your last point, but prime Tyson had Rooney in his corner and he fought hard for 12 rounds. I'm sure that 86-88 Tyson could fight 15 hard rounds.

The gloves are such a huge factor here, I can't believe that it is disregarded. If you use the gloves of today, Rocky is NOT going to wear down and stop Tyson, his only hope would be to survive the bout and maybe win a decision. But again, I would like to know how he was going to win a decision versus Mike. How? By standing toe to toe with him? Get the fuck outta here.

If you use the gloves of Rocky's time, Rocky's only chance is that Tyson breaks his hands, because otherwise there is no way that Rocky is surviving. No way in hell.

[ironchamp]

Once warmed up, Marciano was often relentless in his attack and he packed some nice pop in his punches.

He might not be able to survive an early onslaught from Tyson, regardless of the gloves, but Rocky was one of the most determined fighters I've ever seen.

I'm a strong believer in the importance of the mental aspect of the fight game, and it's here where Marciano held a huge advantage over Tyson.

Would it be enough? Tough to say.

But if Marciano DID survive Tyson's early onslaught, this wouldn't bode well for Mike.

Surviving the early onslaught from Tyson is not easy but even if the Rock survived it how does that translate into a win?

[Rumsfeld]

Surviving the early onslaught from Tyson is not easy but even if the Rock survived it how does that translate into a win?

It doesn't, necessarily.

However, I tend to believe that Rocky's superior mental strength would play more of a factor with each passing round he survived. Tyson has shown a tendancy to collapse mentally when the going gets tough.

I think this mental advantage would be key.

Whenever Tyson lost, it was usually due to a weak mentality. Of course, this only happened later in his career when he was past his best, but even still, it was a weakness that could be exploited.

Rocky was a slow starter who actually got better as a bout progressed; Tyson was, in many ways, the exact opposite.

I reckon it would be a much more competitive fight than many anticipate, given that Rocky survives the early rounds.

[Guru_Too_You]

You are setting up your opinion as facts. It is not likely that Tyson has a better chin that Rocky and Rocky could KO anybody no matter how big they were. Other aspects are that:

- Tyson fought in a weak era while Rocky fought in a great one.
- Tyson is a bully and a mental midget. Once he felt the heat from Rocky there is a good chance that he would back off.
- Rocky did not know the meaning of quitting like Tyson. Common, Kevin McBride made Tyson quit.

I have a first hand account of what it is like to fight Marciano. One of his victims, who was a great fighter himself and had plenty of pop said that “I hit him with shots that would have taken anybody else out” and “I knew I was in trouble within the first twenty seconds of the fight”. This is coming from a very good top 20 HW who had serious power. (Top 20 at the time of their fight)

It is really easy to put Tyson up on a pedestal since he looks and acts the part so well but the fact is that he is a very good HW but not the best. Marketing was a large part of his legacy. Lewis, Ali, Marciano, Dempsey and a few others would all beat him 90% of the time. Tyson only stands a punchers chance against the best.

The mental midget thing is the escape for nostalgic fans who cant base it on skill and technique. When in Mike's prime, with Rooney in the corner did he fold under pressure? He was a semi-retired fighter when he quit, and he took a pummeling from Lewis that I can't see more than three or four people in the history of the division soaking up.

Thats such a weak and escapist argument its ridiculous.

[ironchamp]

It doesn't, necessarily.

However, I tend to believe that Rocky's superior mental strength would play more of a factor with each passing round he survived. Tyson has shown a tendancy to collapse mentally when the going gets tough.

I think this mental advantage would be key.

Whenever Tyson lost, it was usually due to a weak mentality. Of course, this only happened later in his career when he was past his best, but even still, it was a weakness that could be exploited.

Rocky was a slow starter who actually got better as a bout progressed; Tyson was, in many ways, the exact opposite.

I reckon it would be a much more competitive fight than many anticipate, given that Rocky survives the early rounds.

Rocky never got better as bouts progressed, its more a case that his opponents get worse - which is to Rocky's credit as a result of wearing fighters down.

Also Tyson didnt lose as a result of a weak mentality, you're thinking of Andrew Golota. Tyson lost (when he was still an elite fighter) because he was underprepared and fought with no game plan and was, as a result, outboxed and beaten.

The thing about mental advantage just means that he will be in there to fight and will push himself to win. That's all. It means more when fighters are evenly matched. But having the mental advantage isnt going to make you more accurate or take shots better Otherwise Frazier would have beaten Foreman twice.

I stick with my original position

Tyson KO4

[Toopretty]

You are setting up your opinion as facts. It is not likely that Tyson has a better chin that Rocky and Rocky could KO anybody no matter how big they were. Other aspects are that:

- Tyson fought in a weak era while Rocky fought in a great one.:nut:nut:nut:nut:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
- Tyson is a bully and a mental midget. Once he felt the heat from Rocky there is a good chance that he would back off.
- Rocky did not know the meaning of quitting like Tyson. Common, Kevin McBride made Tyson quit.

I have a first hand account of what it is like to fight Marciano. One of his victims, who was a great fighter himself and had plenty of pop said that “I hit him with shots that would have taken anybody else out” and “I knew I was in trouble within the first twenty seconds of the fight”. This is coming from a very good top 20 HW who had serious power. (Top 20 at the time of their fight)

It is really easy to put Tyson up on a pedestal since he looks and acts the part so well but the fact is that he is a very good HW but not the best. Marketing was a large part of his legacy. Lewis, Ali, Marciano, Dempsey and a few others would all beat him 90% of the time. Tyson only stands a punchers chance against the best.:nut:nut:nut:nut:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl yeah a great era 8 years before he was in his prime and everybody else was old as dirt....:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:hey:hey:hey clowns of the same feather flock together

[Jazzo]

If I have not mentioned it already, then Tyson would probably (99% likely in my estimation) win in 1 round.

2 at Max.

[Rollo]

Mike by early murder.

[Pantera]

As far as Tyson taking a lot of abuse from Lewis before he went down. Lewis could have taken him out earlier but he fought the smart fight as he always did and took him apart.

And don't forget that Lennox broke his hand in, I believe, the first round, so I don't know how much of a pummeling he could really do onto Mike's head after that.

[INFIGHT]

Prime Tyson, for reasons already stated by other posters.

[Slothrop]

If Marciano can make it past the first four or five rounds in reasonably good condition, I think he takes it. But that's a huge if.

[ironchamp]

If Marciano can make it past the first four or five rounds in reasonably good condition, I think he takes it. But that's a huge if.

Out of curiousity what happens if Marciano makes it out the first 4-5 rounds?

Based on your wording the premise seems to be that the majority of the first 4-5 rounds are most likely going to be won by Tyson. It seems to be the consensus amongst this thread even by those who pick Rocky. If that is in fact the case what is it that leads you to believe, or anyone for that matter that Marciano trailing on points would all of a sudden start to land more accurate punches, have a better punch resistance and outwork an increasingly confident Mike Tyson who is building up a lead on the scorecard?

If were are talking about both fighters at thier best then lasting the distance shouldnt be an issue. Why would Mike all of a sudden crumble just because Marciano (behind on points) is still standing?

I'd like to think that my questions are valid but my observation is that this is a match up in which Tyson has a stylistic advantage which is why people seem to concede that he takes the early lead. From what I'm reading the only way Marciano takes this is if Tyson somehow gives up and stops fighting as a result of being discouraged that he hasnt stopped THe ROCK. I can't picture Tyson quitting a fight in which he's ahead. For Tyson to be ahead it means that he's connecting, he's dictating the pace. Usually in a fight when a fighter dictates the pace of a fight the only time the momentum changes is if:

A. His opponent adjusts and adopts a slightly different style/approach

B. His opponent lands a big punch and puts him on the defensive.

C. He runs out of gas.


A. Marciano only fights one way.

B. Tyson has never lost a fight because of a momentum changing punch

C. In his prime he could fight hard for 12 rounds.


So please enlighten me what Marciano will do to win this fight.


Thank you.

[Rollo]

If (Marciano) can make it past the first four or five rounds in reasonably good condition, I think he takes it. But that's a huge if.


I think that everyone who lost against Tyson said those words.

[Slothrop]

I think that everyone who lost against Tyson said those words.

Along with those who knocked the living shit out of him.

[Pantera]

I think that everyone who lost against Tyson said those words.

As opposed to those who lost against Marciano, you think?

[HammerHead]

MikeTyson & Rocky Marciano had a few things in common. They were short heavyweights - each stood only five ft.10 inches & always fought taller men, who had superior reach and were often substantially heavier. An opponent's size never seemed a disadvantage toTyson or Marciano. They weren't very artistic boxers, didn't dance or clinch and rarely threw jabs. They were two-fisted power punchers who came to FIGHT. Straight-ahead aggressors, pressure fighters who came in low- stalking, bobbing & weaving, punching under and over defensive jabs , attacking their bigger opponents from all angles with haymaker hooks & uppercuts, always pressing for the knock out-and almost always getting it. Besides both men being the same height ( maybe the two shortest Heavyweight Champs ever ?) both brutal KO punchers, somewhat similar in styles, they fought almost the same number of bouts -Tyson had 50, Marciano had 49.
That's about it for similarities between the two men. MikeTyson fought his 50 fights over a twenty year span ,and he was awesome for those first five years. Before his lack of discipline reduced him to even less of a boxer than Buster freakin Douglas. Now he's just a low life thug again

Marciano was a self confident man who had old-fashioned Italian manners, spoke softly, & was never rude. He respected boxing, The Heavyweight Crown, acting like a true champion while he held it. He was a gentleman.

Rocky packed his 49 wins into eight short years and a legendary career, with each fight growing bigger than the last, untill he cleaned out the division, & retired undefeated.
His dream was to be the best ever & he worked very hard at it. He fought off distractions, thought about boxing, and tried to be in the best physical condition possible. Rocky never, never lost his focus on boxing. He allowed himself only two days off after a fight, began training for the next one. He didn't work on the heavy bag or strength training. He felt gifted with such natural strength that when fighting any man, knew he'd always be the predator, his opponent always the prey. He trained endlessly on his weight, balance, footwork & stamina to cut off, run down & trap his opponents for the kill He trained each day till he dropped & added some unorthodox twists, like pushing a heavy log up a steep hill then chasing it back down for three hours a day. (for the legs & back). Hours of throwing punches while chest deep in a dirty pool while wearing oversized ,waterlogged boxing gloves.(for late round hand speed & stamina)
They say everyone has a bad day now & then. (Pitchers give up home runs, fielders make errors, accountants make mistakes. Boxers have to lose eventually). Not Rocky.He's 49 & 0.
What a war a "Prime" Tyson & The Rock would have had!

[brownshell]

If Tyson was not motivated or the figtht goes to the late rounds. I would give the Rock the edge. Unfortunately, I don't see the Rock boxing. So Tyson would KO him or stop him on cuts.

[ApatheticLeader]

Since you do not have anything to argue you are resorting to insulting others who you do not agree with. He's right - it was a poor era, although Ezzard Charles might have been a better heavyweight than anyone Tyson ever beat (yes, Holmes is better than Charles, but the older version of Holmes that Tyson beat?)

[Sangria]

He's right - it was a poor era, although Ezzard Charles might have been a better heavyweight than anyone Tyson ever beat (yes, Holmes is better than Charles, but the older version of Holmes that Tyson beat?)

Old or young, nobody beat any version of Holmes the way Tyson did.

[PityTheFool]

MikeTyson & Rocky Marciano had a few things in common. They were short heavyweights - each stood only five ft.10 inches & always fought taller men, who had superior reach and were often substantially heavier. An opponent's size never seemed a disadvantage toTyson or Marciano. They weren't very artistic boxers, didn't dance or clinch and rarely threw jabs. They were two-fisted power punchers who came to FIGHT. Straight-ahead aggressors, pressure fighters who came in low- stalking, bobbing & weaving, punching under and over defensive jabs , attacking their bigger opponents from all angles with haymaker hooks & uppercuts, always pressing for the knock out-and almost always getting it. Besides both men being the same height ( maybe the two shortest Heavyweight Champs ever ?) both brutal KO punchers, somewhat similar in styles, they fought almost the same number of bouts -Tyson had 50, Marciano had 49.
That's about it for similarities between the two men. MikeTyson fought his 50 fights over a twenty year span ,and he was awesome for those first five years. Before his lack of discipline reduced him to even less of a boxer than Buster freakin Douglas. Now he's just a low life thug again

Marciano was a self confident man who had old-fashioned Italian manners, spoke softly, & was never rude. He respected boxing, The Heavyweight Crown, acting like a true champion while he held it. He was a gentleman.

Rocky packed his 49 wins into eight short years and a legendary career, with each fight growing bigger than the last, untill he cleaned out the division, & retired undefeated.
His dream was to be the best ever & he worked very hard at it. He fought off distractions, thought about boxing, and tried to be in the best physical condition possible. Rocky never, never lost his focus on boxing. He allowed himself only two days off after a fight, began training for the next one. He didn't work on the heavy bag or strength training. He felt gifted with such natural strength that when fighting any man, knew he'd always be the predator, his opponent always the prey. He trained endlessly on his weight, balance, footwork & stamina to cut off, run down & trap his opponents for the kill He trained each day till he dropped & added some unorthodox twists, like pushing a heavy log up a steep hill then chasing it back down for three hours a day. (for the legs & back). Hours of throwing punches while chest deep in a dirty pool while wearing oversized ,waterlogged boxing gloves.(for late round hand speed & stamina)
They say everyone has a bad day now & then. (Pitchers give up home runs, fielders make errors, accountants make mistakes. Boxers have to lose eventually). Not Rocky.He's 49 & 0.
What a war a "Prime" Tyson & The Rock would have had!

Says it all for me.

[1HitterQuitter]

Tyson kills the 190lber EASILY.

[kingmiller8282]

Idiots who actually think that Rocky beats Tyson. Idiots :-(

[donnybrasco]

What a silly question to ask on a forum dominated by blacks,who do you think they are going to pick ? You might aswell go onto a white supremacist and ask the same question.

[don owens]

Marciano would brutally knock him out.

[Top Dog]

Marciano would get brutalised within 6 rounds easily, Tyson would slaughter hm for sure

[Jordan_Davies]

Tyson by early KO, Marciano left himself too open

[Jordan_Davies]

What a silly question to ask on a forum dominated by blacks,who do you think they are going to pick ? You might aswell go onto a white supremacist and ask the same question.

im white and im picking tyson, your argument is invalid

[LSomefun]

What a silly question to ask on a forum dominated by blacks,who do you think they are going to pick ? You might aswell go onto a white supremacist and ask the same question.

U have earned my ignore list

[Nopporn]

Marciano is naturally smaller than Tyson so I think that Tyson will stop him inside 6 rounds. However, if Tyson can't take Marciano out early then he'll have a serious problem in the late rounds.

[Toker]

I gotta go with rocky based on Ali saying his arms hurt "sparring" for the computer fight, the fact that rocky broke some other fighters arms and that every man who faced him said he was deceptively hard to hit. Oh and rocky is the epitome of a pressure fighter the likes of whose NEVER scared or intimidated. Mikey never faced anyone like the rock. That. Being said prime mikey is a nightmare for anyone.

[big_AL]

Tyson was faster, hits harder, better defense and prolly better chin too. Marciano has great stamina but that wouldn't matter as he will not last 6 rounds with a prime Tyson anyway.

tyson did not have a better chin.no way

he wins this fight though

[Toker]

What a silly question to ask on a forum dominated by blacks,who do you think they are going to pick ? You might aswell go onto a white supremacist and ask the same question.
The problem with the internet is the same thing that makes it great...everyone can voice their opinion. Unfortunately even idiots can voice their opinion. God I hate racist idiots!!!

[Son of Gaul]

What a silly question to ask on a forum dominated by blacks,who do you think they are going to pick ? You might aswell go onto a white supremacist and ask the same question.

Trust me, most caucasians would pick peak Tyson to win this matchup as well. Marciano has the conditioning advantage by far but Iron Mike is equal or superior in every other way.

[Jordan_Davies]

Trust me, most caucasians would pick peak Tyson to win this matchup as well. Marciano has the conditioning advantage by far but Iron Mike is equal or superior in every other way.

Marciano had a far better chin than tyson thats for sure but it was possible to put him down and with Tysons accuracy, speed, power and head movement Tyson takes it within 3 or 4 rounds. I dont see how Marciano could win unless he gets a lucky punch

[Manning]

Marciano's got this one in the bag, by KO no less. You don't be a top 10 heavyweight for nothing.

[Boxing Gloves]

Tyson would win, too many advantages.

[Ilesey]

Well, it would be an absolute war. Marciarno would be game and competitive but I think he would ultimately succumb to Tyson's power.

[Hook!]

IMO if they fought 5 times tyson wins 4 , marciano has a shot at KO'ing anyone but tyson would have to be favourite.

[02bash]

Tyson by KO

[eazym1979]

Tyson had one punch knockout power in either hand, marciano was

dropped by archie moore iam sorry if marciano goes three rounds god has

smiled on him tyson was a vicious motherfucker

[eagleskins]

Tyson never beat any fighter above a C level class. Marciano easily. Hits harder, better chin, smarter.

[Rexrapper 1]

Tyson would knock Marciano's dick loose. No homo.