Best of British Boxing site

[Brian Zelley]

In reviewing the Best of British Boxing, there are many interesting
videos and commentary.

One example is the case for Howard Winstone and his bouts
with Vincente Saldivar and others.

Then there is an interesting BBC documentary called
"Finding Kirkland Laing". So the big question is why would
a boxer like Laing that had the right stuff just drop away
and drift into obscurity?

It seems a shame that over the years, that some USA based fans
are critical of British boxers. However, they don't own the
the only spot when it comes to producing excellent boxers.
e.g. Jimmy Wilde, Colin Jones, Randy Turpin, Freddy Mills,
and many more.

In recent years we have seen some excellent British warriors from Wales and England. Throw in Scotland and Northern Ireland and we could add
more. Some excellent warriors from the past include Tony Sibson,
Davy Boy Green, Henry Cooper, John Conteh and Alan Minter.

Concerning Lennox Lewis, he could be considered a Canadian or English
boxer if we consider his birth place, amateur days and pro performance.

Based on the 2008 Olympics and hope for the 2012 London Olympics,
we should see more top ranked pros as time goes by:happy:bbb

[llwynog]

does anyone know if the Finding Kirkland Laing documentary available somewhere please ? thanks

[ishy]

does anyone know if the Finding Kirkland Laing documentary available somewhere please ? thanks


hkamSEWDvSo

[HairyHighlander]

This thread/post is refreshing as hell ! !

Ok for me it is, really is, for others maybe not.

Anyways, i like it


Cheers BZ :thumbsup

[Brian Zelley]

does anyone know if the Finding Kirkland Laing documentary available somewhere please ? thanks

Yes, it can be found on You Tube.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

I have saved it!

Aside from the documentary there is also an interview,
and you can watch the Kirkland Laing - Colin Jones fight.

When you are tired of boxing, you can listen to and watch music videos
such as "Only You" - Platters (Tony williams singing is like
watching Sugar Ray Robinson box). Or for something historical
there is a ready supply of Barack Obama videos. I like the
one with the words "walking in my shoes". Obama is helping
out at some old folks residence and doing house chores.

Getting back to old tunes, I viewed one that I hadn't heard
since about 1960 called "And The Heavens Cried" with
Ronnie Savoy (another Sugar Ray Robinson of singing).
Think of Detroit music re Motown, then thank of the likes
of Ronnie Savoy for being there in the early days.:happy:hammertime

[HairyHighlander]

BZ has moi thinking F Island :)


Right or wrong :yep

[Brian Zelley]

This thread/post is refreshing as hell ! !

Ok for me it is, really is, for others maybe not.

Anyways, i like it


Cheers BZ :thumbsup

Thanks Highlander!:good

My early memories about boxing including hearing about (but not watching)
the Sugar Ray Robinson vs Randy Turpin bout in London, and hearing
about our own Islington's Terry Allen who won the flyweight title
in 1950. Then throughout the years following the likes of Terry Downes,
Henry Cooper, Johnny Prescott, Billy Walker, Eddie Avoth,
Johnny Pritchett, Wally Swift, Maurice Cullen, Howard Winstone,
Alan Rudkin, Ken Buchanan, Joe Bugner, Bunny Johnson, Alan Minter,
Tony Sibson, John Stracey and many more.:boxing1:firedevi:

[HairyHighlander]

who is your avatar pic,if i may ask ?


I maybe should expect " dont you know ? "

[Brian Zelley]

who is your avatar pic,if i may ask ?

That is me when I was fighting in the Sixties
in places like B C, Tacoma, Portland and Seattle Golden Gloves
including two bouts with Portland's own Ray Lampkin.

I have added an attachment on one post.
That is three of us at the 1984 Canadian Olympic boxing team
training site in Burnaby, BC. Some boxers from Finland
were there and the now well known Lennox Lewis was there.
I'm the one with the Los Angeles Olympic T-shirt.
I refereed some sparring sessions and interviewed some of
the Canadian boxers for an issue of the "BC Amateur Boxing News".
I talked with Lennox about London.:thumbsup

[HairyHighlander]

Cheers :thumbsup

Fire up your idea's and thoughts.


How was Ontario or there pedigree , reckoned with then ?


And again, cheers BZ

:good

[HairyHighlander]

Ishy, cheers agian, ok im a bit rubbered and...........anyways

Gazoc, cheers for asking it out and Ishy dishing up.

I am now K L's newest fan.

I saw a lot of mentions before, though it seemed to be ............ala pisstake/sarcasm...............not sure if it was.


Anyways

[HairyHighlander]

That is me when I was fighting in the Sixties
in places like B C, Tacoma, Portland and Seattle Golden Gloves
including two bouts with Portland's own Ray Lampkin.

I have added an attachment on one post.
That is three of us at the 1984 Canadian Olympic boxing team
training site in Burnaby, BC. Some boxers from Finland
were there and the now well known Lennox Lewis was there.
I'm the one with the Los Angeles Olympic T-shirt.
I refereed some sparring sessions and interviewed some of
the Canadian boxers for an issue of the "BC Amateur Boxing News".
I talked with Lennox about London.:thumbsup


checking :good

Not sure if you head into the classic area of ESB, if you dont you should. I certainly aint there enough , maybe its too many fantasy p4p.

Anyways

:thumbsup

[Brian Zelley]

checking :good

Not sure if you head into the classic area of ESB, if you dont you should. I certainly aint there enough , maybe its too many fantasy p4p.

Anyways

:thumbsup

Yes I do go there, but when it comes to debating the best in a division,
nothing every changes. It is the same old arguments with very little
movement of individual choices. Same with best P4P, after a few logical
choices, it becomes a free for all. If and when boxers like Harold Dade,
Lew Jenkins, Melio Bettina, Freddy Steele and Hogan Bassey get thrown
into the "soup & nuts" mix of debate & discussion maybe it might generate
a new list of the top 25.:rasta

[turpinr]

lew jenkins was an introverted bloke wasn't he.there was a bloke who would fight anybody and everybody including armies.

[Brian Zelley]

lew jenkins was an introverted bloke wasn't he.there was a bloke who would fight anybody and everybody including armies.


In 1976, a group of British Schoolboy boxers travelled to Canada and fought
B C select junior boxers including Dale Walters (1984 LA Olympics - bronze).

I wonder if any of the Lancashire lads or the Canuck clouters
are out there somewhere :good:hi:

[widdy]

great post,must start watching the oldish fights again,:good

[hx lad]

hkamSEWDvSoi like the bit where buncy says your pro career started well , you wone the british , then kirk after a pause says " i did dinta " . i do wish someone would write a book about him about him then maybee a film , what stories he could tell . how is he now ? the last i heard he had a bad fall not long after this piece on him

[Brian Zelley]

From the early sixties:

Jim Cooper, Teddy Haynes, Dave Charnley, Dave Coventry,
Frankie Taylor, Jackie Brown, and Brian Cartwright.

Then there were those third men in the ring such as
Harry Gibbs, Mickey Fox, Pat Floyd, Bill Williams,
Wally Thom, Ike Powell, and Jack Hart.

Many will remember Wally Thom as a boxer.

[turpinr]

In 1976, a group of British Schoolboy boxers travelled to Canada and fought
B C select junior boxers including Dale Walters (1984 LA Olympics - bronze).

I wonder if any of the Lancashire lads or the Canuck clouters
are out there somewhere :good:hi:

in 1976/77? two of the lads from our club fought against a canadian team at park hall hotel in lancashire.i'm sure one of them carried our flag into the ring.

[Brian Zelley]

in 1976/77? two of the lads from our club fought against a canadian team at park hall hotel in lancashire.i'm sure one of them carried our flag into the ring.

I wonder if any of the English boxers that toured Canada in 1976
are staying connected to the sport.