European talents

[Luigi1985]

What are some young top-prospects we don´t know that well now, for example Britsch, Di Rocco, Murray, etc.

[Tom_Tocca]

Shabani, Murat, Frenkel, Gereev to name a few...

[Luigi1985]

Shabani, Murat, Frenkel, Gereev to name a few...


I heard Murat had many problems with his last opponent, a fighter with a 14-1-0 record, did you see that fight? I only saw some parts...

Frenkel looked really nasty in the past, very good prospect, he´s pretty quick with great power...

[Tom_Tocca]

I heard Murat had many problems with his last opponent, a fighter with a 14-1-0 record, did you see that fight? I only saw some parts...

Frenkel looked really nasty in the past, very good prospect, he´s pretty quick with great power...
I was live at ringside an had it 78-74 for Murat. I can say that he can pack together good combos to body and head - handspeed seems to be average - chin must be solid as he ate 2-3 big haymakers by the Mackey. He must tighten up his defence - he was a little bit over-confident in the middle rounds.
He could be top 30 at smw within a year...

[Darien]

Balzsay

[Tom_Tocca]

Balzsay

But then, Balzsay isn't that unknown - I think he will be top10 within a year if he is matched with more risk by his promoter...

[Luigi1985]

I was live at ringside an had it 78-74 for Murat. I can say that he can pack together good combos to body and head - handspeed seems to be average - chin must be solid as he ate 2-3 big haymakers by the Mackey. He must tighten up his defence - he was a little bit over-confident in the middle rounds.
He could be top 30 at smw within a year...


Thx for the little fight report! :thumbsup

[Darien]

But then, Balzsay isn't that unknown - I think he will be top10 within a year if he is matched with more risk by his promoter...
I don't know how well-known Balzsay is outside Hungary and Germany, but he surely is a great prospect and hopefully a contender soon. Those injuries hindered him a bit. As far as I know he will figth for the WBO intercontinental title this fall.

[pioterbezkitu]

Grzegorz Proksa

[*BOX_FAN*]

Andy Lee.

[Grabonator]

Whats going with Willy Blain?? Hes verry talented and skilled and fast but lacks punching power bigtime!!

[Tom_Tocca]

Hey guys, me and Luigi want some unknown guys, not the well-known prospects in his thread...

[emanuel_augustus]

Could you put weight divisions with these names?

Scouting reports?

Frenkel,
What's the book on this Frenkel kid? Nice destruction of Shane Swartz. Anywhere near ready to step up in the Cruisers?

[Tom_Tocca]

Could you put weight divisions with these names?

Scouting reports?


What's the book on this Frenkel kid? Nice destruction of Shane Swartz. Anywhere near ready to step up in the Cruisers?
He needs imo 2-3 8-rounders to go the distance. But yes, he has decent power an is a good technician...but way too green stepping up against a top20 sort of opponent. Let him fight Mark Hobson...

[Odo]

Vladimir Tereshkin
Zsolt Bedak
Lukasz Janik
Enad Licina
Zapir Geerev
Rene Mahling
Viacheslav Senchenko
Stas Kashtanov
Vladimir Zykov
The name crossed my mind when I thought about your thread,luigi!
There are dozens of talents out there.

[Luigi1985]

Vladimir Tereshkin
Zsolt Bedak
Lukasz Janik
Enad Licina
Zapir Geerev
Rene Mahling
Viacheslav Senchenko
Stas Kashtanov
Vladimir Zykov
The name crossed my mind when I thought about your thread,luigi!
There are dozens of talents out there.


Good and interesting list, Odo! :thumbsup

[Toney]

In Finland our best procpect is no doubt about it super heavyweight Robert Helenius ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) He is still amateur and he will turn pro after the Olympics. He has already signed a deal with Sauerland.

In the pro ranks besides Amin Asikainen and Juho Tolppola we have this cruiserweight called Umar Kemilainen ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). He is 5-0, with 2 KO. Still unexperienced and untested. But I do belive that he has got talent to be a very good light heavyweight or a cruiserweight. He has been in Germany sparring with Marco Huck. The word in Finland is that he was very competitive against Huck.

[DoctorFaustus]

<<<<<<< What about this guy??? :yep

[Toney]

<<<<<<< What about this guy??? :yep
Decent prospect at Eurolevel. But I don´t belive that he can be a top10 heavyweight in the world.

[Tom_Tocca]

Decent prospect at Eurolevel. But I don´t belive that he can be a top10 heavyweight in the world.
It comes down to Sebastian's chin...if he can win the EBU belt in the next 2 years it should be a success - lets see how he progresses - by next year he needs better opposition...

[unitas]

<<<<<<< What about this guy??? :yep

his record is padded. i have seen him fight as amateur and pro and i think he lacks toughness.
looks too fragile to go anywhere. maybe, if managed well, a EBU belt.

[DoctorFaustus]

He's not the next worldbeater...that's for sure!!! EBU-Level shouldn't be a problem anyway. He's a fine boxer with decent power, but Tom said it right.....his chin is a big questionmark!!!

[BigEars]

Hungarian/Pole Lukasz Wawrzyczek loos a very good prospect to me , up to European level at least . The only thing that could let him down is his severe lack of power . Technically he's a very good boxer and throws plenty of punches , and puts combinations together very well in 3's and 4's .
He seems to have a decent defence too but it was his crisp work offensively that really impressed me .

[Grebfan9]

Hi ODO,

Do you have any info on Vlad Tereshkin?

Height/weight/reach, amateur record?

Is he a boxer/puncher?

I am starting a new message board/website and I am looking
for any info. on good prospects.

[Artani]

He's not the next worldbeater...that's for sure!!! EBU-Level shouldn't be a problem anyway. He's a fine boxer with decent power, but Tom said it right.....his chin is a big questionmark!!!

I will say Kober is good boxer. I think he spent lot of time in the amateur. His carear going well and he have progres. Its good for KOber next year to shot EBU or EU belt .

[Smazz20]

I believe it's safe to say that Kiko Matinez is a very exciting prospect. Fucking annihalted Dunne.

[Toney]

I believe it's safe to say that Kiko Matinez is a very exciting prospect. Fucking annihalted Dunne.

Yeah, I wanna see Martinez again as soon as possible! :good

[Smazz20]

Yeah, I wanna see Martinez again as soon as possible! :good

Me too. At least we know he's not afraid to travel. That perfromance should see him come into the ring ratings at about 8. Maybe he'll make a couple defences of the Euro title before moving up to World title aspirations.

[VHB]

Kashtanov was mentioned earlier... I gotta say, I wasn´t impressed with his last WBC Youth title defense at all... he beat his opponent by some points, which was aided by the young Namibian losing a point for not obeying the ref constantly. Kashtanov used his experience advantage but was in trouble many times. If I´d have to predict which one of them will make an impact on the division, I´d say that young bloke Mororo. He´s 8-1 now but very young and strong. Kashtanov is not world champion potential. I would guess he´s career goal should be european title.

[Odo]

Several of those names sound good to me! :hey

Enad Licina will appear on the undercard of Valuev vs Bergeron,robson.
He will have to nail his true colours to the mast facing a very stiff test.His opponent will be Ismail Abdoul,a Belgian based Arab.
Abdoul has shared the rings with lots of known names and is able to make the water quite hot for any promising talent.
Licina will be in hot water if he doesnt stick his nose to the grindstone and enters the ring with a good game plan IMO.
Tough match for Licina!

[Odo]

Hi ODO,

Do you have any info on Vlad Tereshkin?

Height/weight/reach, amateur record?

Is he a boxer/puncher?

I am starting a new message board/website and I am looking
for any info. on good prospects.
I dont know that much about him,grebfan! Sorry!
Height:197cm
Born in 1988 in Russia,Kovilkino.
Former kickboxer according to some posters here.
130 amateur fights,110 victories,Russian champ(juniours)
2 ko victories at the paid ranks

[Grebfan9]

Hi ODO,

Thanks for the info on Tereshkin.

Sounds like he has decent amateur creds.

Hope to hear more about him.

Young fighter, he has plenty of time to learn
more and advance up the heavyweight ranks.

[Artani]

Haxhi Krasniqi , Frank Shabani and Karo Murat are the best of the moment who will give a lot to german public in the future.

[Grebfan9]

Toney,

Does Helenius have power or is he a slick boxer?
Can he take a good punch. How tall?

Grebfan9

[Toney]

Toney,

Does Helenius have power or is he a slick boxer?
Can he take a good punch. How tall?

Grebfan9
Helenius is 200cm (about 6´6") and he weights about 110 kg (about 240 pounds).

His power is very good for a 23 year old kid. And this is only the first year that he has done anykind of strenght-training. In the last European championsips he first stropped Romanian boxer in round 1 by a cut. Then he stopped the French tough guy in round 2. The ref counted a couple of times to Samoudi and the he stopped the fight. In his third fight he stopped Turkish Gunebakan in round 3. The turk was floored and the ref counted several times to him. In the finals Helenius lost to the Russian by a decision. After the Euro championships Helenius has fought 11 times, won thema all, 7 by stoppage.

Helenius has a good defence. You don´t see him taking many bum. Before the year 2006 Helenius was a very defencive fighter, but now when his body has matured, he has become far more offencive. And he has shown good chin as well. He down only in one fight of his career. That was against against Adreas Barkhall in 2003, when Helenius was exhausted. He has never been down by a clean punch. And like you see of his record ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), he has been in the ring with very good fighters.

You can´t relly call a 6´6 guy slick boxer, but he sure is twice as slick as the Klitschko´s are...

Sauerland did not sign this guy already 2 years before the olympics for nothing. Helenius is a great talent.

[Grebfan9]

Hi Toney,

Thanks for the info. Sounds like Helenius is someone to watch as
he progresses. Big strong guy with power.

[Odo]

Helenius is 200cm (about 6´6") and he weights about 110 kg (about 240 pounds).

His power is very good for a 23 year old kid. And this is only the first year that he has done anykind of strenght-training. In the last European championsips he first stropped Romanian boxer in round 1 by a cut. Then he stopped the French tough guy in round 2. The ref counted a couple of times to Samoudi and the he stopped the fight. In his third fight he stopped Turkish Gunebakan in round 3. The turk was floored and the ref counted several times to him. In the finals Helenius lost to the Russian by a decision. After the Euro championships Helenius has fought 11 times, won thema all, 7 by stoppage.

Helenius has a good defence. You don´t see him taking many bum. Before the year 2006 Helenius was a very defencive fighter, but now when his body has matured, he has become far more offencive. And he has shown good chin as well. He down only in one fight of his career. That was against against Adreas Barkhall in 2003, when Helenius was exhausted. He has never been down by a clean punch. And like you see of his record ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), he has been in the ring with very good fighters.

You can´t relly call a 6´6 guy slick boxer, but he sure is twice as slick as the Klitschko´s are...

Sauerland did not sign this guy already 2 years before the olympics for nothing. Helenius is a great talent.

I wish he would have turned pro a few months ago.Helenius has the talent to go very far.But why................wait ........... .

[Toney]

I wish he would have turned pro a few months ago.Helenius has the talent to go very far.But why................wait ........... .
His childhood dream is to be the Olympic gold medallist! And if I have understood right; Sauerland has no problem with it. They have Povetkin and Valuev now, so Helenius will be their next top prospect.

[Odo]

His childhood dream is to be the Olympic gold medallist! And if I have understood right; Sauerland has no problem with it. They have Povetkin and Valuev now, so Helenius will be their next top prospect.

I wish him good luck,but I somehow doubt that he will win gold at the olympic games.

[Toney]

I wish him good luck,but I somehow doubt that he will win gold at the olympic games.
I hope and belive that he can take a medal! :good And I belive that he has the tools to beat anyone. Of course everything would have to go 100% perfect.

Helenius just returned to Finland from two weeks camp in Italy. There he sparred for the first time with Roberto Cammarelle. September 9th Helenius will fight someone from Latvia in Finland. And September 15th he will take on tough Russian Roman Veselov, who is Russias Northwest champion. After these fights he will go to a Sauerlans sparring camp and after that begins the World Championships in Chicago.

[victorhugo4222]

Scottish prospects:-
John Simpson - british featherweight champ
Paul Appleby - Featherweight
Craig McEwan - Middleweight (based in US and trained by fredie roach)
Ian Millarvie - Heavyweight
Kenny Anderson - Commonwealth gold medalist now turned pro

[Axe]

Mateusz Masternak is one to look out for, still very raw, but a great talent in the works.

[Grebfan9]

Scottish prospects:-
John Simpson - british featherweight champ
Paul Appleby - Featherweight
Craig McEwan - Middleweight (based in US and trained by fredie roach)
Ian Millarvie - Heavyweight
Kenny Anderson - Commonwealth gold medalist now turned pro


What info does anyone have on Ian Millarvie???

Is this guy a future contender???

[Odo]

Haxhi Krasniqi , Frank Shabani and Karo Murat are the best of the moment who will give a lot to german public in the future.


"are the best of the moment"

What did you try to tell us,artani? Karo Murat who had a death and life struggle with an unknown fighter from the Bahamas islands in one of his last fights,Shabani who may be able to beat bums with records of 1-30,and your compatriot Krasniqui who luckily won his very close encounter with American journeyman Berry Butler "are the best european talents" at present?

None of your three aforementioned fighters has the potential to fight for a european title,let alone a world title.
Shabani is a local club fighter,Murat can bang,but I watched him live on Abraham's undercard and I bet my house that he wont make it,and as for Haxhi a fighter who struggles with Butler will never ever fight for a real title.

[Artani]

"are the best of the moment"

What did you try to tell us,artani? Karo Murat who had a death and life struggle with an unknown fighter from the Bahamas islands in one of his last fights,Shabani who may be able to beat bums with records of 1-30,and your compatriot Krasniqui who luckily won his very close encounter with American journeyman Berry Butler "are the best european talents" at present?

None of your three aforementioned fighters has the potential to fight for a european title,let alone a world title.
Shabani is a local club fighter,Murat can bang,but I watched him live on Abraham's undercard and I bet my house that he wont make it,and as for Haxhi a fighter who struggles with Butler will never ever fight for a real title.

Haxhi Krasniqi will fight for WBC youth light heavyweight title , Shabani is great fighter , and Murat also . All three all future champions , i dont know what you saying , maybe have another one more but this three i saw and i can talk for them

About Bary Butler , i dont know how you canm saying for him yournyman, the man have a lot of boxing carier , he fights with Tarver and was stayed for all rounds in leg and he was rated for long time in the best top 15 of WBC ratings before. Your problem is that you think that you are smart and knows everything , no way man , you are far from your idea.

[Odo]

Haxhi Krasniqi will fight for WBC youth light heavyweight title , Shabani is great fighter , and Murat also . All three all future champions , i dont know what you saying , maybe have another one more but this three i saw and i can talk for them

About Bary Butler , i dont know how you canm saying for him yournyman, the man have a lot of boxing carier , he fights with Tarver and was stayed for all rounds in leg and he was rated for long time in the best top 15 of WBC ratings before. Your problem is that you think that you are smart and knows everything , no way man , you are far from your idea.

Berry Butler is a journeyman,artani-whether you like or not.Admittingly,he is a very good one who can now and then upset a much better name.Nevertheless he is a journeyman.
I am still amazed that Butler is still in the business as I watched his ko loss to Denis Lebedev live.Lebedev knocked the living shit out of him.Most brutal ko I have ever seen live in a box arena.
A pity that Lebedev hasnt been able to continue his pro career due to personal problems.Your compatriot Haxhi cant hold a candle to Lebedev.He must call him lucky that he got a close point decision over that American journeyman.

Murat is a great fighter,eh! He for sure is a decent fighter.No doubt about that,but I very much doubt that he will win a european title or a world title.
He struggled with an unknown fighter from the Bahamas islands and didnt look that convicing against a Russian journeyman on Povetkin's undercard.
Besides he takes too many punches.

Shabani? A local club fighter!