Jones Jr. of the Ruiz fight vs ATG 190-ish pound heavyweights?

[Maxmomer]

According to boxrec he came in at around 193 pounds for his fight against Ruiz. How does this version of Jones do against...

Jack Dempsey
Floyd Patterson
Rocky Marciano
Sam Langford
Max Schmeling
Jersey Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney

???

[ChrisPontius]

I don't see him beating many of those......... however, it should be noted that almost all of his opponents at LHW weighed 185-190bs by fight night. He spent most of his career time as a classical heavyweight.

[MAG1965]

According to boxrec he came in at around 193 pounds for his fight against Ruiz. How does this version of Jones do against...

Jack Dempsey
Floyd Patterson
Rocky Marciano
Sam Langford
Max Schmeling
Jersey Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney

???Jones could beat most of those guys. Marciano would have been tough, but Jones punches would bust up Rocky's face.

[GPater11093]

i think he might ahve beaten

schmeling
patterson
walcott

but all the fights would be competitive

[Ezzard]

I can't see him beating any of them. 15 rounds with the same training facilities, he loses them all

[PowerPuncher]

I think a 1994-1998 circa RJJ does better than the 2003 RJJ, who was not nearly as athletic by that stage and in the coasting stage of his career

[Minotauro]

i think he might ahve beaten

schmeling
patterson
walcott

but all the fights would be competitive

Never, Walcott was too smart and powerful even more unorthodox then Jones. And Patterson is the worst style for him he very difficult to finish has great power and is one of the few heavy who could probably match a 2003 rjj's speed.

[McGrain]

Patterson would murder him, that guy is absolute poison for Jones.

I give him his best chance against Charles.

[GPater11093]

Never, Walcott was too smart and powerful even more unorthodox then Jones. And Patterson is the worst style for him he very difficult to finish has great power and is one of the few heavy who could probably match a 2003 rjj's speed.

i jsut think walcott is oen of the weakest their and he has a chance because he is fast and powerful and could out speed walcott but the fight ould be close real close maybe a draw. maybe im completly wrong here though

patterson i gave jones a chance as Patterson is suscepitapal to hard shots and RJJ's speed and power could prove abit too much for him. but i would love Patterson to beat him though

[Minotauro]

i jsut think walcott is oen of the weakest their and he has a chance because he is fast and powerful and could out speed walcott but the fight ould be close real close maybe a draw. maybe im completly wrong here though

patterson i gave jones a chance as Patterson is suscepitapal to hard shots and RJJ's speed and power could prove abit too much for him. but i would love Patterson to beat him though

I wouldn't say Walcott was on of the weakest on the list I think he would beat Schmeling, Tunney and possibly Langford and on par with Patterson plus him and Charles were fairly even. But that’s just my opinion.

[TommyV]

I don't think he beats any of them.

Possibly Schmeling and Charles but I seriously doubt he would.

[McGrain]

The thing is, Jones of the Ruiz fight is probably past his absolute best.

So putting him in with ATG fighters who have fought 190 pound plus men plenty seems a little unfair.

[radianttwilight]

Jones-Marciano would have been a great fight.

Over 12 I think Jones could decision him.

[TommyV]

The thing is, Jones of the Ruiz fight is probably past his absolute best.

So putting him in with ATG fighters who have fought 190 pound plus men plenty seems a little unfair.


Absolutely.

Testimant to how great the guy truly is that we are matching him up with ATG 190 lb or so fighters when past his best and a natural 168.

[McGrain]

It wasn't just a weight issue though, I mean JOnes had slowed down by the time he fought Ruiz. He flat out didn't have the footspeed he used to.

[Seamus]

I can't see him beating any of them. 15 rounds with the same training facilities, he loses them all

agreed.

[PowerPuncher]

I honestly think Prime Jones stands a shot against all of the fighters listed, hes slightly smaller the some, but is a far superior boxer, athlete, better stamina and big enough hitter to cause serious damage, the only fighters I make favourates over him are Charles, Patterson, Dempsey and they are slight favourates and his speed would be a problem for all, he may well outbox Dempsey. He'd run rungs round Tunney, Schmelling, Moore and Walcott. Easily win the early rounds against Marciano and quite possibly hang on for the UD. Langford I see as just being too basic

Seeing is believing with Jones, a complete other level type of talent

[McGrain]

I honestly think Prime Jones stands a shot against all of the fighters listed, hes slightly smaller the some, but is a far superior boxer, athlete, better stamina and big enough hitter to cause serious damage, the only fighters I make favourates over him are Charles, Patterson, Dempsey and they are slight favourates and his speed would be a problem for all, he may well outbox Dempsey. He'd run rungs round Tunney, Schmelling, Moore and Walcott. Easily win the early rounds against Marciano and quite possibly hang on for the UD. Langford I see as just being too basic

Seeing is believing with Jones, a complete other level type of talent

Wow. That's a bad post, buddy.

[janitor]

While his talent should give him a chance against these fighters I cant justify picking him over any of them individualy.

These guys all proved their status as great heavyweights. Jones chose not to try and there have to be uncertainties about whether he could have.

[GPater11093]

15 rounds i dont think he beats any of them execpt Schmeling but only if his chin holds up in the later rounds.

my earlier posts are based on over 12

[Maxmomer]

The thing is, Jones of the Ruiz fight is probably past his absolute best.

So putting him in with ATG fighters who have fought 190 pound plus men plenty seems a little unfair.

Fair or not, I was curious to see how people thought RJJ stacked up as a heavyweight against heavyweights of a similar weight. What 190 or so pound heavyweights do you think he would beat?

[ripcity]

According to boxrec he came in at around 193 pounds for his fight against Ruiz. How does this version of Jones do against...

Jack Dempsey
Floyd Patterson
Rocky Marciano
Sam Langford
Max Schmeling
Jersey Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney

???

I beleve that speed>skill>strength/power. However one good shot can end a fight.
Jones greatest weekness was his chin. I don't conseder a lack of triditinol boxing skills a weekness for someone as fast as Jones was. If any of these fights were to go to tHe score cards I see Jones wining them all comfortabily. I can however see him geting knocked out by the likes of Jack Dempsey, Sam Langford and Rocky Marciano. However his speed might prevent that from happening.