Just watched Calzaghe - Reid...

[Nemesis]

some interesting notes;

McCrory had it a draw

punches thrown
reid 497
calzaghe 618

punches landed
reid 220
calzaghe 214

Punch percentage
reid 44%
calzaghe 34%


the crowd booed the decision big time


that's all!

[China_hand_Joe]

some interesting notes;

McCrory had it a draw

punches thrown
reid 497
calzaghe 618

punches landed
reid 220
calzaghe 214

Punch percentage
reid 44%
calzaghe 34%


the crowd booed the decision big time


that's all!


A few scousers booed, not big time at all -fullstop- Reid drew the fight, but lost the boxing match according to the round by round scoring system -fullstop-

[Nemesis]

A few scousers booed, not big time at all

feck off, the fight was in Newcastle, watch the fight again when the decision is announced you can hear a loud booooooooooooooooooooo


-fullstop- Reid drew the fight, but lost the boxing match according to the round by round scoring system -fullstop-

fair enough, although i would say, a lot of Calzaghe's punches were landing on the arms and gloves of Reid, where as Reid was landing the harder punches, how Calzaghe kept taking those right hands I will never know

[Nemesis]

The crowd booed at DLH-Mayweather. Doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

What a stupid post :patsch

[LeedsLad]

Calzaghe won the fight, it was the closest hes been pushed but it was a fairly clear win unless your a blind Calzaghe hater.

[Nemesis]

Calzaghe won the fight, it was the closest hes been pushed but it was a fairly clear win unless your a blind Calzaghe hater.

How can it be a clear win, if he was outpunched


BTW I am a big Calzaghe supporter

[LeedsLad]

How can it be a clear win, if he was outpunched


BTW I am a big Calzaghe supporter

Compubox numbers can be decieving. Remember, the judges have no access to the compubox numbers and, for me anyway, when you watch the fight i think Calzaghe wins it pretty clear. After the fight Reid admits he didnt do enough to win, but there should have been a rematch IMO.

[Nemesis]

How is it? The consensus of most is that Mayweather clearly won that fight, yet enough of Oscar's fans booed to say it was the wrong decision.

Boo-ing means absolutely fuck all - it was you that brought it up, fuckwit - so don't start complaining about anyone else's post.

Additionally, the difference in punches landed was... 6.

You are a moron.

touched a nerve have I?

Firstly DLH-FM was in Vegas on a Mexican celebration weeked (IE Oscar was the home fighter, which Reid was not), also the crowd tend to think the aggressor is doing more, which once again doesnt apply as Reid was the counterpuncher.

My point was that your comparison was completely irrelevant.

Secondly, the punch stats show that JC was fairly inaccurate compared to Reid's. Reid's punches were also having more of an affect on Calzaghe than vice versa.

[Nemesis]

Compubox numbers can be decieving. Remember, the judges have no access to the compubox numbers and, for me anyway, when you watch the fight i think Calzaghe wins it pretty clear. After the fight Reid admits he didnt do enough to win, but there should have been a rematch IMO.

I dont have the interviews directly after the fight, but i do remember 5years later Reid complaining on a weekly basis that he got robbed on the beeb

To me it all depended on which you prefer (as the judges scoring suggested) a fast handed flurrier (not sure thats a word) or a harder punching counter puncher

[Snorkel]

I had it close but clear for Calzaghe, 2 or 3 rounds if I remember. The fact that Reid was deducted 1 point, making it a 10-8 round was significant.

Joe took that round by 2 points, as stated above. Reid therefore needed to win 7 of the other 11 for a win. Do you honestly think he won 7 rounds, especially considering the first few were clearly Calzaghe's?

[hitman_hatton1]

i had calzaghe by 2 pts the last time i scored it.

it's definitely a close fight.

anyone that says it ain't is lying. :yep

[Nemesis]

Fair cop fellas.

I remember watching it as 15 year old and thinking that Reid won by a point. In hindsight I'd say he lost by a point.

In other words the point deduction being decisive (and deserved too). It pisses me off when people claim it was a clear decision though

[LeedsLad]

I dont have the interviews directly after the fight, but i do remember 5years later Reid complaining on a weekly basis that he got robbed on the beeb

To me it all depended on which you prefer (as the judges scoring suggested) a fast handed flurrier (not sure thats a word) or a harder punching counter puncher
If you watch the entrances to the fight Reid gets a much better reception than Calzaghe, at that time in 1999 he didnt have much of a fanbase in England. Listen to the boo's as Calzaghe enters the ring. The crowd favoured Reid, but it was also close.

He said after "Im not going to moan about it, i knew it was a close-ish fight. It depends what sort of judges" and "I agree, he won the fight, he was picking in his points. Maybe if the judges preferred my style i would have got it."

I had it to Calzaghe 7 rounds to 5, it was very close though.

[bratwurzt]

Calzaghe won the fight, it was the closest hes been pushed but it was a fairly clear win unless your a blind Calzaghe hater.

How can we respect your judgement - look at your footy team :bbb :bart

[Nemesis]

There are no nerves being touched, merely you being a graceless ass.

My comparison is not to do with the fight itself, it's to do with the fact that some people cheer because of what the perceive rather than what happened. You are clearly slow-witted enough to not see the correlation between the two.

Thereafter, you descended to name calling by saying the post was stupid when all you had to do was ask the relevance. Which, incidentally, was clear to anyone that can understand what I was implying.

People boo at fights without justification a lot of the time, but it has nothing to do with who won or not. That was my point.

Is that spelled out clearly enough for you?

ouch! that time of the month is it

[China_hand_Joe]

Robin Reid had one really good round, where he landed about 200 right hands -fullstop- This means he landed something like a total of 20 over the other 11 rounds -fullstop- I scored the fight 119-108 -fullstop-

[hitman_hatton1]

Robin Reid had one really good round, where he landed about 200 right hands -fullstop- This means he landed something like a total of 20 over the other 11 rounds -fullstop- I scored the fight 119-108 -fullstop-

ridiculous scoring tbh. :roll:

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119-108............. i have never laughed so much in my life! idiotic scoring. how far you up calzaghes ass man? reid won by a round.

[China_hand_Joe]

I may have exaggerated slightly with the scoring, but my point remains the same -fullstop- If you ant to go on punchstats, Calzaghe won -fullstop-

[Amsterdam]

Fair cop fellas.

I remember watching it as 15 year old and thinking that Reid won by a point. In hindsight I'd say he lost by a point.

In other words the point deduction being decisive (and deserved too). It pisses me off when people claim it was a clear decision though

Do you realise that a fight can be 'closely contested' but also 'clear' in the same. I hate how people act like clear and clean 7-5 wins can 'go eitherway' when some absolutely cannot, fights that can go either way have an abundance of something called 'swing rounds'.

You could even up Calzaghe to an 8-4 win, because one of Reid's 5 rounds was a 'swing round', this is why two judges had it 116-111, taking the point deduction within the scores.

But you're obviously not a Calzaghe supporter, you're looking to stir up the Calzaghe fanbase(because of how loyal and defensive we are) and I will admit that you've done so in a more subtle way.:yep

[Nemesis]

Do you realise that a fight can be 'closely contested' but also 'clear' in the same. I hate how people act like clear and clean 7-5 wins can 'go eitherway' when some absolutely cannot, fights that can go either way have an abundance of something called 'swing rounds'.

You could even up Calzaghe to an 8-4 win, because one of Reid's 5 rounds was a 'swing round', this is why two judges had it 116-111, taking the point deduction within the scores.

But you're obviously not a Calzaghe supporter, you're looking to stir up the Calzaghe fanbase(because of how loyal and defensive we are) and I will admit that you've done so in a more subtle way.:yep

Do I need to reiterate I am a fan of Calzaghe, I have his filmed career collection (about 5 missing, I dont think were filmed), I just happened to stick the fight on last night and make a few observations. Find any of my 2000 odd posts where i have denigrated Joe in anyway, thats right you cant :good

In fairness i thought most the rounds were as you would call "swing" rounds

[Amsterdam]

Do I need to reiterate I am a fan of Calzaghe, I have his filmed career collection (about 5 missing, I dont think were filmed), I just happened to stick the fight on last night and make a few observations. Find any of my 2000 odd posts where i have denigrated Joe in anyway, thats right you cant :good

In fairness i thought most the rounds were as you would call "swing" rounds

Sure, sure. Reasons like this are why China_hand_Joe has formed into the way he is.:yep

[China_hand_Joe]

116-111 was a bit wide for Calzaghe, whatever way you look at it -fullstop- Calzaghe won the fight by something in the region of 2-3 rounds give or take a round -fullstop- Of course, had it happened, Joe would have won a WIDE decision in the rematch at the very least -fullstop-

[Amsterdam]

116-111 was a bit wide for Calzaghe, whatever way you look at it -fullstop- Calzaghe won the fight by something in the region of 2-3 rounds give or take a round -fullstop- Of course, had it happened, Joe would have won a WIDE decision in the rematch at the very least -fullstop-

Or a stoppage-fullstop-

[GazOC]

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Thats really starting to annoy me now, it breaks up the flow of any point you are trying to get across...

[China_hand_Joe]

Thats really starting to annoy me now, it breaks up the flow of any point you are trying to get across...There should be less than a month more of it mate!

[Decebal]

There should be less than a month more of it mate!

Have you lost a bet, is this some kind of penance or is the medication finally going to kick in soon?:think

[madpup]

Do you realise that a fight can be 'closely contested' but also 'clear' in the same. I hate how people act like clear and clean 7-5 wins can 'go eitherway' when some absolutely cannot, fights that can go either way have an abundance of something called 'swing rounds'.

You could even up Calzaghe to an 8-4 win, because one of Reid's 5 rounds was a 'swing round', this is why two judges had it 116-111, taking the point deduction within the scores.

But you're obviously not a Calzaghe supporter, you're looking to stir up the Calzaghe fanbase(because of how loyal and defensive we are) and I will admit that you've done so in a more subtle way.:yep

Just yesterday you said that Chagaev struggled with Ruiz and Valuev. You could say exactly the same thing about those fights, which were clear wins to Chagaev. Shows your bias, you are not judging the fighters you love with the fighters you don't the same way.

[Ilesey]

I was a close fight but I had Calzaghe winning.

[GazOC]

There should be less than a month more of it mate!

I'll hang in there then!!:D

[jc]

Probably Calzaghe closest fight, but anybody who makes a case for Ried being the winner is a plum...