If PAC beats Barrera then...

[yesihavearm]

If Pac beats Barrera, then beats Marquez and Guzman. Moves up to 135 and beats David Diaz for the title, then moves up to 140 and beats Gavin Rees for the title.

Unlikely situation obviously but possible.

Where would he be ATG ?

[Stinky gloves]

Forget Rees, No one cares about him...Soto would be much more viable...Like I said Top 25 all time

Whow biggest PAC fan gives him #25 ... if I was PAC I would punch you right away in the chin :lol:

[theunderdog]

gavin rees? why?

[yesihavearm]

I mentioned Rees because of Rees' height (5"3) and would not have so much of a physical advantage over Pac at 140 as some of the other fighters who are naturally bigger than 140.

Dont forgot if he wins a title at 140 he would have come up all the way from flyweight to do so. Thats the achievement , not the fighter hes beaten.

[yesihavearm]

lol im 6ft 145, im pretty sure too

[Stinky gloves]

I think the whole topic is wrong, Barrera will beat PAC and the next PAC fight will be the rubber match with Barrera.

[PacDbest]

Pac only moves up in weight to seek Greatness. He moves to 126 for MAB, To 130 for Morales. AFter he's done with Marquez, Pac will more likely to moved up to fight Casa or Juan Diaz of who ever is the the top lightweight at that time. If he's still successful & still dominant, The only reason to moved up at 140 or 147 is for the money fight. We're Talking about Hatton, PBF or Cotto.

Pac already won Lineal titles at 112 & 126. Beating JMM will make it it's 3rd lineal title at 130. Beating Casa/Diaz makes it 4th. If he did this He'll be easy top 10 P4P of all time. Adding a win with PBF will make him top 3 P4P of ALL time.

[theunderdog]

i think pac could have easily made history if he wanted to. he jumped from 112 to 122. he could have easily won titles at 115 and 118 IMO and could have been a 6 division champ by now. shoulda woulda coulda i guess.

i think most people are overestimating the fact that pac weighs more than 140 at fight night. many think that because pac weighed more than 140 it already means that he could easily fight champs at 140 without thinking that those who are regulars at 140 weigh at around 150 at fight night

there are many many people around here that say pac should fight mayweather because pbf holds the 147lb belt and pac weighs around that much against morales in the 3rd fight. i think assuming this is absurd

[retriever]

If Pac beats Barrera, then beats Marquez and Guzman. Moves up to 135 and beats David Diaz for the title, then moves up to 140 and beats Gavin Rees for the title.

Unlikely situation obviously but possible.

Where would he be ATG ?

Top 30

[brooklyn1550]

He would be top 40 all time great

[PATSYS]

Actually if Pac now just retires and smells the coffee, he would still be considered ATG.

[Scar]

I'd rather see him stay and dominate at 135.

[la-califa]

If Barrera Beats Pac. & wins a rematch against Marquez. Would he be a solid #3 Mexican ATG just behind Chavez & Sanchez? Remember the Marquez decision could have gone easily to Barrera also. This could be just the bait to get Pacquaio in the ring. Barrera is not as ringworn as Morales & could pull off an upset.

[mad_takamura]

Actually if Pac now just retires and smells the coffee, he would still be considered ATG. but questions will rise on his legitimacy.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Even if he did all that, would he rank higher then DLH or Tito?

[theunderdog]

Actually if Pac now just retires and smells the coffee, he would still be considered ATG.

and i thought you answer would have surely been "pac by ko"

[mad_takamura]

I'd rather see him stay and dominate at 135. then it might be too late for pac to face the other greats in the higher division like the lw ,slw,and jr.ww

[Stinky gloves]

then it might be too late for pac to face the other greats in the higher division like the lw ,slw,and jr.ww

From the point of legacy its better to clean up one division completely instead jumping from one to another picking up oponents.

After he clean up such deep division he will be a living legend
and may fight whoever he wants.

[Bangis]

I'd rather see him stay and dominate at 135.


id like him to dominate 130 first! :good:good

[DobyZhee]

this is ridiculous..its not a matter of if he beats barerra its 'when'. now going back to the subject..if he keeps on knockin' dudes out at higher divisions, sooner or later BALCO is gonna come creep up. No way he goes to 140 and carries that same power.

[mad_takamura]

From the point of legacy its better to clean up one division completely instead jumping from one to another picking up oponents.

After he clean up such deep division he will be a living legend
and may fight whoever he wants. a jumpe packed division does he have now on the jr.lw! i agree with you stinky on this one since he still have what it takes to dish it out now on his division, not to mention the big names involved like guzman, soto, linares, valero, katsidis, marquez etc... what i am really anticipating is a pac-babay bull diaz bout! now that could turn the house down!!:good

[mad_takamura]

a jumpe packed division does he have now on the jr.lw! i agree with you stinky on this one since he still have what it takes to dish it out now on his division, not to mention the big names involved like guzman, soto, linares, valero, katsidis, marquez etc... what i am really anticipating is a pac-babay bull diaz bout! now that could turn the house down!!:good of course on the lw div.

[puga_ni_nana]

If Pac beats Barrera, then beats Marquez and Guzman. Moves up to 135 and beats David Diaz for the title, then moves up to 140 and beats Gavin Rees for the title.

Unlikely situation obviously but possible.

Where would he be ATG ?

after he beats mab, marquez and guzman, david diaz could possibly be a 135 champ no more. :D

[MacManJr.]

I can't see Pac beating Juan Diaz at 135. Fuk David Diaz!

[retriever]

If Pac beats Barrera, then beats Marquez and Guzman. Moves up to 135 and beats David Diaz for the title, then moves up to 140 and beats Gavin Rees for the title.

Unlikely situation obviously but possible.

Where would he be ATG ?

Too bad Pac avoided Guzrun and Gaven Rees(gavin who?):nut