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Flea Man
03-09-2009, 08:57 AM
Arguello loved to box pressure fighters, but Chavez was one of the greatest pressure fighters of all time.

Chavez had an iron chin but could he take Alexis' spectacular range of power shots?

Great fight IMO, very, very close and let's assume that Chavez lasts the distance.....9-6 Arguello.

MAG1965
03-09-2009, 02:21 PM
Arguello loved to box pressure fighters, but Chavez was one of the greatest pressure fighters of all time.

Chavez had an iron chin but could he take Alexis' spectacular range of power shots?

Great fight IMO, very, very close and let's assume that Chavez lasts the distance.....9-6 Arguello.I see Arguello edging this, but as they go up in weight Chavez starts to win. Really close at 135 maybe a draw scenario and at 140 Chavez stops Arguello. Usually the taller guys gets the advantage as he moves up.

GPater11093
03-09-2009, 02:28 PM
i think at LW i like Alexis to win by a late KO over 15 or points by 12 but i agree with MAG that as they go up Chavez would become closer

My2Sense
03-09-2009, 02:28 PM
I always felt Arguello would've had too much for Chavez to overcome.

Flea Man
03-09-2009, 05:14 PM
I agree. At 140, Chavez either stops or dominated Arguello, or maybe both.

At LW it's closer, but I think Arguello would prevail my decision.

Chavez was super-tough at SFW, and his chin was at it's most fresh. I think he would last the distance at 130, but I think Arguello would win 10-5, something like that.

GPater11093
03-09-2009, 05:16 PM
Fleaman you love your latin boxers

it wasnt you writing into Boxing news asking for stuff about mexicans was it

you pretty much some it up though but i think Alexis could stop Chavez late on in a 15rounder at LW

Flea Man
03-09-2009, 05:20 PM
No it wasn't me! I know what letter you are referring to. Nah, that guy sounded clueless, I know my boxing (well, at least I like to think I do!!!)

Dunno what it is mate, the Latin guys have got my heart (in a fighting sense obviously) When me and my mates have our boxing nights they say things like 'you can't go on holiday with a Passport like that, part English, part Jock, a Mexican Flea from Puerto Rico!'

They think it's ridiculous, that I favoured Cotto over the British fighter Jennings. But for me, watching Cotto fight is genuinely like following one of my own guys lol

GPater11093
03-09-2009, 05:25 PM
No it wasn't me! I know what letter you are referring to. Nah, that guy sounded clueless, I know my boxing (well, at least I like to think I do!!!)

Dunno what it is mate, the Latin guys have got my heart (in a fighting sense obviously) When me and my mates have our boxing nights they say things like 'you can't go on holiday with a Passport like that, part English, part Jock, a Mexican Flea from Puerto Rico!'

They think it's ridiculous, that I favoured Cotto over the British fighter Jennings. But for me, watching Cotto fight is genuinely like following one of my own guys lol

the guy did sound abit clueless but he must be abit more tahn a casual fan to be into Mexicans, might send him a letter saying i have a heap of fights.

i like the latin guys, sometimes i think im mexican in the way i fight, its all natural you want a fight i will give you a fight even in sparring. i hate going abroad and the only place i would go is mexico.

lolling at mexican flea from puerta rico

latin fighters are in a class of there own and the passion at teh fights its something else

Flea Man
03-09-2009, 05:37 PM
Definitely.

Zarate vs. Gomez, the atmosphere is like at a Roman Gladiator fight. The ferocious crowd match the reputations of the two guys in the ring, the first three cagey rounds are so intriguing even though barely anything happens. By the time Gomez starts flooring Zarate in the fourth and fifth rounds, the Puerto Ricans are bringing the house down.

It makes the humbled expression on Zarate's face when the towel comes in even more shocking.

Zamora vs. Zarate has a similarly fevered atmosphere. Hell, even Mosquera vs. Valero (in Panama) has that feel to it, even though the fight isn't great. Well, the first three rounds are good, whilst it's competitive, but after that, it's just two tired guys with little/no skill/technique swinging tiredly.

GPater11093
03-09-2009, 05:39 PM
watch barrera vs morales sums up latin boxing

Flea Man
03-09-2009, 05:50 PM
watch barrera vs morales sums up latin boxing

:good:good:good

Also, Chavez vs. Rosario, Cotto vs. Margarito, Sanchez vs. Gomez, Pintor vs. Gomez, Arguello vs. Olivares, Vasquez vs. Marquez trilogy, man we could be here all night :lol:

GPater11093
03-09-2009, 05:55 PM
:good:good:good

Also, Chavez vs. Rosario, Cotto vs. Margarito, Sanchez vs. Gomez, Pintor vs. Gomez, Arguello vs. Olivares, Vasquez vs. Marquez trilogy, man we could be here all night :lol:


all amazing fights and many more

i love mexicans i might have a mexican boxing weekend on sunday and jsut watch some mexicans

leverage
03-09-2009, 06:27 PM
Arguello would tko him at that weight. chavez would be open for arguellos punches, and the "explosive thin man" was one of the rare punchers that hurt his opponents with everything he landed. In many of his fights his opponents would be winning on the scorecards but losing at the same time because the effects of his punches would gradually slow them down which in turn set up the later round ko or tko.

Chavez would play right into arguellos hands with his pressure style and get pasted with punches the likes of which he never felt before. He would get ripped to the body and head, eventually falling apart in the late rounds in which arguello was known to get stronger in. Arguello by ko in 14.

laxpdx
03-09-2009, 10:10 PM
This would be a hell of a punch-up but I think Arguello would decision him at 130.

Sweet Pea
03-09-2009, 10:27 PM
I don't think Arguello stops him, but I think his punching power would put Chavez on the backfoot a lot more than he's used to. Chavez was a better boxer than he's given credit for though, so I don't think he'd be totally out of his realm and I can see that straight right hand landing fairly often, but he's not the type of boxer to trouble Arguello down the stretch. I see Arguello landing the bigger, more damaging blows throughout the matchup, with both fighters taking their share of punishment. I actually think Arguello would be the primary aggressor here as well, and would win a close Decision, something like 9-6 or 10-5 in a hotly contested battle.

chimba
03-09-2009, 11:22 PM
I cant think of anyone better than Alexis at 130. He would be out or range and outbox JCC and possibly be the man to KO him prime for prime

WhataRock
03-09-2009, 11:40 PM
Maybe Mayweather...I say this mostly because of from a style standpoint he would give Arguello a hard time, which boxers of his ilk often did. And with the only fair way to discuss a match like that is being to discuss it over 12 rounds, that just helps Floyd's cause.

natonic
03-09-2009, 11:53 PM
I think 130 was Arguello's best weight. I think 135 was Chavez's best weight. At 130 I'd take Arguello by decision. Other than Chavez cutting up, I don't see him being stopped.

la-califa
03-11-2009, 03:54 PM
You know who won Arguello's vacated WBC Lightweight Belt? Yep, Julio C. Chavez! Who would have won this bout if Arguello didn't vacate?

Sweet Pea
03-11-2009, 04:16 PM
You know who won Arguello's vacated WBC Lightweight Belt? Yep, Julio C. Chavez! Who would have won this bout if Arguello didn't vacate?What time frame are we talking? Early 80's is Arguello all day over the young, far less experienced Chavez.

la-califa
03-11-2009, 04:21 PM
What time frame are we talking? Early 80's is Arguello all day over the young, far less experienced Chavez. Arguello vacated in Feb. of '83. When Chavez moved up to Lightweight, I believe he had close to ten title defenses at Jr. Lightweight. I'm not sure , but wasn't Chavez first fight at Lightweight against Rosario?

la-califa
03-11-2009, 04:26 PM
Yeah, so the Arguello of '82 or '83 against the Chavez of '87 when he claimed the Lightweight crown. Would be a tough fight.