Tommy Hearns vs Tommy Burns

[janitor]

It rymes so I had to make this thread.

Who wins?

[GPater11093]

i think hearns

[mr. magoo]

Hearns by Ko.

[janitor]

I will go with Bearns.

[mr. magoo]

Or we can even go with Hurns.

[janitor]

Joking aside.

These two make an interesting comparison because one was a lineal champion at jr middleweight while the other was a lineal champion at heavyweight yet their careers played out over verry much the same weight range.

Mr Hearns started his career at welterweight, but I rather doubt that he would have been able to get down to 147 in Burns's era. More likley he would have started to fight at world level at middleweight like Burns did.

Hearns caried his power well up to cruiserweight which would have put him comfortably into the heavyweight picture in the Burns era. It would be interesting to see how Hearns could have done against Philadelphia Jack O'Brien at light heavyweight, and some of the heavyweight white hopes though I dont think he would have got past Marvin Hart like Burns did.

Physicaly Hearns and Burns are about as diferent as you can get.

My inclination is that Burns would win based on the fact that he would be up against the same physical disadvantages that he was in every fight and would be able to take Hearns's powe better than vice versa.

[JimmyShimmy]

As nicely as Hearns may be able to drop the right, Burns was also very fast and viscous, expect he was much stronger and would be able to infect Hearns' comfort zone.

Out of his sqauted position he would start to plunge in the right and crumple up the hitman.

[Seamus]

Burns would tear into him and break him down. Tommy stood up to a lot of abuse from the much bigger and stronger Johnson. Hearns would not have much, comparatively, to offer in opposition.

[Bummy Davis]

Burns was a strong man, I think at 170 Burns would be too much, fast strong and durable....Hearns excelled at 147-154

[Joe E]

Burns was a strong man, I think at 170 Burns would be too much, fast strong and durable....Hearns excelled at 147-154Sounds about right to me. Didn't Burns once KO a Man who weighed 300 lbs. or was that Fitzsimmons?

[Seamus]

Fitz KO'd Ed Dunkhorst, but he was around 260. "The Human Freight Car"

[Maxmomer]

Your not kidding, man. It's shameful no one has brought that into the open before. Hearns/Burns. Holy shit. Just...Holy fucking shit.

I think Burns wins by KO after some shaky moments.

[markedwardscott]

Hearns is one of my favorite fighters, but Burns is probably too strong for him.

[MRBILL]

Hmmmmmm.... I imagine Burns has got to be as strong as Hagler was.?.? Burns, like Hagler, was built for wrestling more so than boxing...... However, I'm not sure that Burns would rush Hearns like Hagler did in 1985........ If Burns stays outside the pocket with Hearns, Tommy Hearns picks him apart.... If Burns somehow turns the fight into a phone booth war with Hearns backed to the ropes, well, maybe Burns wins.?.? It's hard to call this match......

MR.BILL

[JohnThomas1]

Burns FAR too primitive. Talk about a mismatch.

[Minotauro]

I think Burns would stop Hearns late he had a great chin and big power plus I'm guessing this fight woul happen at 160 or so and Hearns didn't look as durable here as he did in th lower weights.

[Hank]

Burns had strength over Hearns, and ability to take punch. Hearns had more skills,and fought in advanced era. I would think Hearns could box him to a decison win. There is not much film shown of Burns, I don't even know if any exists besides his fight with Johnson.

It's a good topic, makes you think. I'm realizing how little anyone knows about Burns. Well, maybe I better speak for myself. :think


Was he much of a puncher, how did he train, and so on. I assume he took good shot.

[Dempsey1238]

Lots of film exist on Burns for fighters compare to other fighters of that era.

Have about 5 or so fight films starting Burns himself. Or was it 4??

I left with the thouht Burns would be to strong for Hearns imo.

[flamengo]

Hearns would dispose of Burns, in the same fashion he disposed of Duran. IMO.

Plenty of footage is available of Burns

[Duodenum]

Hearns would be getting continually hammered to his body. Burns had more than enough firepower to take him out with a head shot (especially with that right hand bomb he was filmed flattening and upsetting Squires with in California), and would match the fast start of Hearns. Burns was also a 20 round veteran who could get off the deck to put an opponent out. He took 18 of 20 rounds over Marvin Hart, proving he could dominate a longer bout from beginning to end. He has a pair of championship round knockouts on his resume. This is key.

Nobody outboxed Hearns. But Burns dealt with Philadelphia Jack O'Brien twice in defense of his heavyweight title, somebody infinitely more experienced than Hearns. Still, Burns would likely be coming from behind here. Hearns would be the one in retreat here as the Burns body attack wore him down for a late round knockout. Burns could be very cool and relaxed in the ring (something he demonstrated when making Hart lose his composure and fight in a self-defeating rage), as well as extremely aggressive (the way he was in decisioning O'Brien). He was also sturdy enough to withstand whatever Hearns could dish out.

Burns KO 14 Hearns