View Full Version : Got a £10 bet with my workmate - Khan to win!
achillesthegreat
03-11-2009, 07:39 AM
It'll make it a little bit more interesting when watching.
Khan better not let me down.
mike464
03-11-2009, 07:53 AM
Not bad - you won't get better than evens at any bookie.
I really hope Khan lets you down!
noonan
03-11-2009, 07:56 AM
Me too!!!!! and i have gone with the pac over hatton!!!!
achillesthegreat
03-11-2009, 08:39 AM
Not bad - you won't get better than evens at any bookie.
I really hope Khan lets you down!
you are heading for a banning boy.
GazOC
03-11-2009, 08:42 AM
IIRC Kahn opened up at something like 6/4.
mike464
03-11-2009, 09:42 AM
you are heading for a banning boy.Why?
digregorio1.
03-11-2009, 10:14 AM
i got £2 on rounds 3 - 9 for khan to win by stoppage at 33/1. come on amir
fatcity
03-11-2009, 10:16 AM
I smell a rat with this fight.Something appears very odd,and with King involved?:huh
achillesthegreat
03-11-2009, 10:25 AM
Why?
You are wishing ill upon a fellow ESB'er. Blasphemy at its finest.
achillesthegreat
03-11-2009, 10:25 AM
i got £2 on rounds 3 - 9 for khan to win by stoppage at 33/1. come on amir
does that mean you would win 66quid?
thats decent.
noonan
03-11-2009, 11:19 AM
£68 pound win!!!!!!
BIG WORM
03-11-2009, 11:20 AM
khan stoppage round 6
noonan
03-11-2009, 11:21 AM
i got £2 on rounds 3 - 9 for khan to win by stoppage at 33/1. come on amir
where u get that price???????
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paddy power are normally competitive with there prices but way off yours!!
unless you did 3 and 9 at 33/1 each??
Grant1
03-11-2009, 12:41 PM
I think he did £2 on round 3, £2 on round 4 £2 on round 5 etc etc etc.........
GazOC
03-11-2009, 02:19 PM
I smell a rat with this fight.Something appears very odd,and with King involved?:huh
Care to elaborate....?
Betty Swollocks
03-12-2009, 12:19 AM
Care to elaborate....?
Khan going from fighting a bunch of nobodies (inc. Presoctt) to fighting Barrera, albeit a shot Barrera. He was fighting just a few weeks ago and not long ago in China. There are definite chances it's a set-up for the local guy, against a semi-retired name fighter looking for a last pay day and pension. A but like Tszyu-Hatton. Remember the Khan-Kindelan rematch was a set-up.
if it's not then Barrera by brutal KO.
Hazed-Out
03-12-2009, 01:17 AM
Remember the Khan-Kindelan rematch was a set-up.
What makes you think it was a setup?
I hope Khan brutally demolishes Barrera. Goodnight Barrera. :hi:
achillesthegreat
03-12-2009, 06:40 AM
Boxing fans look for a conspiracy in everything. Can't this just be a young prospect v an old veteran!
What makes you think it was a setup?
I hope Khan brutally demolishes Barrera. Goodnight Barrera. :hi:
Twat.
GazOC
03-12-2009, 08:26 AM
Boxing fans look for a conspiracy in everything. Can't this just be a young prospect v an old veteran!
Thats all it is. Roach has told ****** that MAB is too old, too slow and too small to beat Khan and to make the match before someone else gets an impressive looking win on their record at MABs expense. Whether Roach is correct in his opinion is, of course, open to debate...
Any comparions to Zoo-Hatton are a little stretched to say the least....
We have to wait and see about the Refs performance before we compare it to Hatton-Tszyu.
Who is the Ref?
GazOC
03-12-2009, 08:37 AM
Nowt wrong with the ref for Hatton-Zoo.....;O)
Parris had a shocker that night. Although that is the wrong word since it implies it was human error.
Howard Foster is just as bad.
I hope for neither of these clowns and a fair performance.
GazOC
03-12-2009, 08:47 AM
Nonsense, we've been though all this BS. Its was a rough fight, both fighters fouled, Paris carries the can around here for a lot of people getting their pick totally wrong for that fight...
achillesthegreat
03-12-2009, 08:48 AM
British refs allow guys to fight. They don't step in as much unless its for something serious. They stop journeymen too soon. This is the only traits that are visible.
achillesthegreat
03-12-2009, 08:49 AM
Nonsense, we've been though all this BS. Its was a rough fight, both fighters fouled, Paris carries the can around here for a lot of people getting their pick totally wrong for that fight...
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I didn't exist so I didn't get it wrong. What about when Hatton nodded at him??
You can put one performance down to human error but then we get another one from H. Foster and there is a recurring theme.
Not to mention performances of Brit refs in Khan's fight where they count extra slow and are desperate to help him in any way possible.
I honestly think Brit refs are the worst in the world for favouring home fighters, particularly big money fighters.
GazOC
03-12-2009, 08:52 AM
As a great man (I forget who) once said, "Its not a tickling contest in there". Wise words indeed....:good
Fair play. I suppose Barrera was correct to ram Hamed's head into a ring post. This ain't UFC, Marquess of Queensbury rules my friend!! :good
GazOC
03-12-2009, 08:56 AM
I didn't exist so I didn't get it wrong. What about when Hatton nodded at him??
You can put one performance down to human error but then we get another one from H. Foster and there is a recurring theme.
Not to mention performances of Brit refs in Khan's fight where they count extra slow and are desperate to help him in any way possible.
I honestly think Brit refs are the worst in the world for favouring home fighters, particularly big money fighters.
That "nodding" thing got brought up by certain people after the Lascano fight and I didn't see it then either. Either way one nod (that could mean anything/ nothing) doesn't make a biased ref, its not as Paris he was pulling Zoo up for infractions he was letting Hatton get away with, that fight was just a rough and tumble brawl and the ref let them both get on with it as much as possible.
GazOC
03-12-2009, 09:00 AM
Fair play. I suppose Barrera was correct to ram Hamed's head into a ring post. This ain't UFC, Marquess of Queensbury rules my friend!! :good
I know stylistically you don't tend to like the rough stuff but I think its a valid tactic when a boxer is trying to impose himself in a fight. I think Zoo-Hatton is a good example, both fighters roughing each other up and the ref only intervening when the stone wall fouls occurred for the low blows (which Zoo instigated BTW).
You are mistaken.
It was a rough (and illegal) fight because Hatton made it that way and the ref allowed it. Quite clearly it was not the way Tszyu would choose to do business based on his previous fights, but he knew with the hometown Ref and millions of fans baying for blood he had no choice but to respond in kind.
Now we've seen a continuation of these tactics from Hatton so we know who the real instigator is. Had the ref gotta control of things we would have seen an overall fairer fight from the outset from both men.
Overall it left a bad taste in many peoples mouth. It is often the first thing mentioned when Tszyu-Hatton is brought up, and not without reason.
Still, it was a great performance from Hatton. I don't think he's ever performed like that since.
I know stylistically you don't tend to like the rough stuff but I think its a valid tactic when a boxer is trying to impose himself in a fight. I think Zoo-Hatton is a good example, both fighters roughing each other up and the ref only intervening when the stone wall fouls occurred for the low blows (which Zoo instigated BTW).
It's a valid tactic yes, but to me this was the extreme end of the scale in how much he let go. I would compare Parris and Cortez. Cortez was on one end of the scale and Paris on the other. They were both horrible.
You have to be fair to both fighters IMO. Hatton wants all that constant wrestling, Tszyu doesn't. If Cortez reffed the fight it would have looked a lot better for Tszyu, wouldn't it? Just as with Parris's style of reffing on the night it completely favoured the way Hatton wanted to fight.
There is a medium to be found somewhere. A quality ref like Smoger for example would have perhaps found it.
GazOC
03-12-2009, 01:19 PM
I don't think it matters (within reason) who reffed that fight. It was the wrong style at the wrong point in Zoos career. Hatton imposed his style and gameplan and won the fight, the reffing in that fight tends to get brought up when certain people are discussing it I'll give you thaat much but most people remember that fight as a fair win for Hatton. I've certianly never heard Zoo complain.
Tszyu is a humble guy, he probably wouldn't.
I'm not saying he would have won, and yes its quite obvious Hatton's style was bad for him as Vince Phillips was. However I just gave you examples of how refereeing can affect a fight. Hatton was given no scope to implement his tactics against Mayweather and look what happens. He's given completely free license and its a different fight entirely.
Neither were upstanding examples of refereeing IMO. Wrestling is not a huge part of boxing, you can be in the pocket without constant wrestling which is why fighters are usually told to work out. Therefore it should have been cut down to a certain extent, not completely of course.
GazOC
03-12-2009, 01:34 PM
Its funny how Zoo not complaining is taken by some people as meaning that the reffing was diabolical but he's too nice a person to mention it rather than the more obvious answer that Zoo accepts he is was a professional boxer who was involved in a tough but fair title fight.
trotter
03-12-2009, 03:38 PM
It has always struck me that Cortez was FAR worse in the Hatton-Floyd fight than Parris in the Hatton-Tszyu fight.
I don't think Parris deliberately favoured Hatton, but Cortez did favour Mayweather and went into the ring intending to do so.
Not through corruption, but the weight of the media/team Mayweather pressure to not let Hatton fight his fight. Cortex is old and suggestable and he thought it was the right thing to do. It wasn't and isn't. You referee based on what you see before you. You do NOT referee according to what you've seen in previous fights.
Call me biased, I don't care, that's what I saw.
Anyway, I was asked who I thought would win this fight last night and I'm going with Khan. Mainly because ****** is on record as suggesting it's 'the right time' to get Barrera.
But I think Barrera will still have a bit left and it will be a very good fight, could even be special. Khan is in some very exciting fights at the end of the day, with his style and vulnerability, he can't be anything but exciting.
sam1222
03-12-2009, 04:37 PM
that tenner's gone mate haha you might as well pay him now.
digregorio1.
03-13-2009, 08:50 AM
rounds 3 and 9 or rounds 3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9? If the latter point me to that bet please :good
rounds 3, 4, 5 and 6 i got of william hill and rounds 7, 8 and 9 from sky bet. i also bet on rounds 10, 11 12 on sky bet. round 11 was 40-1 and round 12 was 50-1. that was 2 days ago i did that may have changed now but doubt it
digregorio1.
03-13-2009, 08:52 AM
where u get that price???????
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paddy power are normally competitive with there prices but way off yours!!
unless you did 3 and 9 at 33/1 each??
i got them from william hill and sky bet. on sky bet round 11 is 40-1 and round 12 is 50-1, great odds. i put an extra £3 on round 6 aswell so hoping he does a job then - will net me £170 if he does
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