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ko factor
08-21-2007, 09:38 AM
Who wins & why?

MacManJr.
08-21-2007, 09:39 AM
PBF. Too fast and too smart.

ko factor
08-21-2007, 09:42 AM
PBF. Too fast and too smart.I think Floyd will be having difficulty dealing with Williams southpaw stance and also with his reach & height.

MacManJr.
08-21-2007, 09:47 AM
I think Floyd will be having difficulty dealing with Williams southpaw stance and also his reach & height.I can't argue with that. I just think Floyd will find a way to win. He always does because he is so smart.

ko factor
08-21-2007, 09:51 AM
I can't argue with that. I just think Floyd will find a way to win. He always does because he is so smart.Williams will jab Floyd to a decision win.:good

Polo28
08-21-2007, 09:53 AM
All though Paul has reach. he doesnt have very much power. But he does throw alot of punches. Floyd can do Paul like he did the Late Great Diego Corrales. Kind of Keep him off balance and kind of follow Floyd around. But saying that Paul can throw punches at all angles. This is why I picked a toss up. I dont think Paul is skillfully better. But i think he has the reciepe to give Floyd a tough tough fight. Possibly beating Him. And Floyd is one of my Favorites. So that is hard for me to say.

MacManJr.
08-21-2007, 09:53 AM
If PW throws those pitty pat punches he threw against Margo Floyd will counter him all night.

Tettsuo
08-21-2007, 09:54 AM
Williams is too easy to hit. Floyd will shut down that BS jab by countering him and not standing right in front of him like Margarito did.

Floyd by KO in the middle rounds.

Brickhaus
08-21-2007, 10:33 AM
PBF. Williams throws punches in bunches, but he telegraphs them somewhat, and Floyd is quick enough and smart enough that he'd be able to keep Williams from making much clean contact. There's a chance, however, that Williams' workrate is so high that he could take a majority of rounds, but I just see PBF landing the cleaner shots. Probably PBF's toughest fight available, either way.

Relentless
08-21-2007, 11:09 AM
floyd easy

brooklyn1550
08-21-2007, 11:38 AM
I have to believe Floyd would find a way to win...UD for PBF

Fab2333
08-21-2007, 12:27 PM
floyd easy:good

ko factor
08-21-2007, 12:27 PM
I can't believe this is even a thread.... PBF by a wide margin decision... come on guys.Why? What's wrong with this thread? Floyd by wide UD w/o explaining why?:nut:nut:nut

C Money
08-21-2007, 01:34 PM
Williams UD EASY:good

Southpaw, high volume work rate, too much height, too much reach, has a jab and uses it, uses angles and knows how to box:yep


Never fear though Floyd Boyz, Floyd doesnt have the balls to make the fight:nono :nono :nono Floyd's not interested in proving himself as a great figter and legend, he's ready to be a "rapper" and whatever else interests him, aside from being a real champion.


:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

BobDigi5060
08-21-2007, 01:37 PM
This is the last fight I would have Floyd in. It either floats one way or another and it is a high risk/low reward at this point.

He is no N'dou. Not to mention Floyd is even further away from his natural weight. It just has bad news written all over it.

Williams by akward, messy but clear UD.

ko factor
08-21-2007, 10:50 PM
This is the last fight I would have Floyd in. It either floats one way or another and it is a high risk/low reward at this point.

He is no N'dou. Not to mention Floyd is even further away from his natural weight. It just has bad news written all over it.

Williams by akward, messy but clear UD.:good

KO Boxing
08-21-2007, 10:52 PM
Tough fight stylistically, but as already said, in the end...


Floyd easy.

Lance_Uppercut
08-21-2007, 10:56 PM
I think Floyd would find a way to win. But NO FUCKIN WAY would he win EASILY. You nuthuggerss need to buy a clue...

bigtime9
08-21-2007, 11:12 PM
I think Floyd would find a way to win. But NO FUCKIN WAY would he win EASILY. You nuthuggerss need to buy a clue...


get a life hating ass bitch:thumbsup

Lance_Uppercut
08-21-2007, 11:15 PM
get a life hating ass bitch:thumbsup

WHy aren't you staying ON TOPIC YOU MORON!!! :rofl

Get an education you ignorant excuse for a black person.

bigtime9
08-21-2007, 11:16 PM
WHy aren't you staying ON TOPIC YOU MORON!!! :rofl

Get an education you ignorant excuse for a black person.

sure thing casper;)

sues2nd
08-21-2007, 11:17 PM
PBF. Too fast and too smart.

Honestly, Williams is the WORST matchup for Floyd of any of the top WWs.

This is the ONLY fight at that class I cannot see Floyd winning in any way shape or form. Stylistically and physically this is a HUGE mismatch.

Executioner
08-21-2007, 11:17 PM
Fuck, some of these Floyd fans are stupid as shit. Ok it's fair to say Floyd would find a way to win but by KO? or UD EASILY? :patsch

Williams is 6'1" and comes into fights at 162 pounds for crying out loud and throws well over 100 punches around..I think he threw like 124 in the 12th round against Margarito. Combine that with the height and reach he has = trouble for Mayweather.

Thread Stealer
08-21-2007, 11:18 PM
I think Williams beats Mayweather. I've always felt that despite his flaws, that he's a nightmare matchup for Floyd.

I think Cotto is the 2nd toughest matchup for Mayweather.

Lance_Uppercut
08-21-2007, 11:18 PM
sure thing casper;)

Two posts and NONE on the topic.. :lol::lol:

Fuckin racist little hypocrite...:rofl

KO Boxing
08-21-2007, 11:26 PM
Floyd's never had trouble with tall fighters before (e.g. Corrales and N'Dou, both were aggravated assaults)... Granted they were not as tall as Williams, but still very tall nonetheless...

The stylistic challenge for Mayweather is the tall fighter throwing such a high number of punches... Which people seem to think will NOT drop against a defensive genious such as Mayweather, who will counter a number of punches. And we all know that once you start getting countered (badly), you don't really feel like throwing those punches no more...

No way Williams throws as much punches against Floyd as he did against Margo... Just NO way.

But when I say "easy", it's "easy" in the sense that the Dela Hoya fight was "easy" for Floyd... Still close, don't get me wrong, but Floyd didn't look like he left second gear all night.

Doing that, makes it "easy"...

Executioner
08-21-2007, 11:27 PM
get a life hating ass bitch:thumbsup

Place your prediction then fuckhead

sues2nd
08-21-2007, 11:52 PM
Floyd's never had trouble with tall fighters before (e.g. Corrales and N'Dou, both were aggravated assaults)... Granted they were not as tall as Williams, but still very tall nonetheless...

Williams - 6'1 reach 82"
Corrales - 5'10 reach 70"
N'Dou - 5'10 reach 75"

Sorry to say bro...but it isnt so much the height advantage as it is the reach....he is a foot longer than Corrales and 7" longer than N'Dou...thats not even close bro. Williams is a HUGE WW...you cant compare the three.

The stylistic challenge for Mayweather is the tall fighter throwing such a high number of punches...

Not really...the stylistic matchup for Mayweather would be dealing with not only the volume of punches Williams throws...but the sheer length of his arms. With his output and reach, he could realistically keep Floyd at the end of his jab all night long....much the way he did to Margo.

Add in the fact that he has a very good, very fast...LONG jab, something that Oscar and other fighters have used well against Floyd...it just adds to how bad of a matchup this truely is.

Which people seem to think will NOT drop against a defensive genious such as Mayweather, who will counter a number of punches.

With a volume puncher such as Williams, it isnt always about landing, but more about continuously throwing. If Floyd is in constant defensive mode (with Williams almost certainly throwing much more than Floyd, who himself will never be confused with Kassim Ouma output wise...:D ), then it plays directly into Williams strengths.

And again, if you look at how ridiculous the reach advantage would be (82" - 72"), Floyd would have a very hard time countering anything.

And we all know that once you start getting countered (badly), you don't really feel like throwing those punches no more...

Not really, Margo countered Williams with some HARD shots and he kept throwing. Floyd doesnt hit nearly as hard as Antonio...I doubt the counters that he does land (as I explained earlier...he would have ALOT of trouble doing so) would have much of a disheartening effect on Williams output.

No way Williams throws as much punches against Floyd as he did against Margo... Just NO way.

That is a ridiculous statement. Think about it. Margo is a much, MUCH busier fighter than Floyd, he also hits harder (and no I DO NOT THINK Margo could beat Mayweather...so lets leave that alone...)...so if Williams could get off 1000+ vs him, he could just as easily get off 1000+ vs Floyd. There is NOTHING that would make anyone think differently, other than bias.

But when I say "easy", it's "easy" in the sense that the Dela Hoya fight was "easy" for Floyd... Still close, don't get me wrong, but Floyd didn't look like he left second gear all night.

Doing that, makes it "easy"...

Oscar and Williams are night and day in terms of styles. Oscar is a plodding, accurate puncher...he basically comes right at you. He has also slowed considerably over the years.

Williams on the other hand is slower than Mayweather, but not by nearly as much as Oscar is (not much at all actually). He is also busier...Stronger...Longer.

Floyd could NOT win this fight. I believe Mayweather can beat Cotto (pretty easily actually), will beat Hatton (again easily), would SCHOOL Cintron, would box circles around Margo and COULD win a close fight with Mosely (tho I think Shane also has some matchup advantages in this one also...)....but vs Williams, I would pick Paul 10 out of 10 times.

Again...he CANNOT win. Which is why this fight will never happen. Floyd might act like a jackass outside of the ring, but he is no dummy.

PATSYS
08-21-2007, 11:53 PM
Even if PBF wins, I think he will really look bad in this fight people might even start thinking he is shot.

KO Boxing
08-22-2007, 12:12 AM
Williams - 6'1 reach 82"
Corrales - 5'10 reach 70"
N'Dou - 5'10 reach 75"

Sorry to say bro...but it isnt so much the height advantage as it is the reach....he is a foot longer than Corrales and 7" longer than N'Dou...thats not even close bro. Williams is a HUGE WW...you cant compare the three.



Not really...the stylistic matchup for Mayweather would be dealing with not only the volume of punches Williams throws...but the sheer length of his arms. With his output and reach, he could realistically keep Floyd at the end of his jab all night long....much the way he did to Margo.

Add in the fact that he has a very good, very fast...LONG jab, something that Oscar and other fighters have used well against Floyd...it just adds to how bad of a matchup this truely is.



With a volume puncher such as Williams, it isnt always about landing, but more about continuously throwing. If Floyd is in constant defensive mode (with Williams almost certainly throwing much more than Floyd, who himself will never be confused with Kassim Ouma output wise...:D ), then it plays directly into Williams strengths.

And again, if you look at how ridiculous the reach advantage would be (82" - 72"), Floyd would have a very hard time countering anything.



Not really, Margo countered Williams with some HARD shots and he kept throwing. Floyd doesnt hit nearly as hard as Antonio...I doubt the counters that he does land (as I explained earlier...he would have ALOT of trouble doing so) would have much of a disheartening effect on Williams output.



That is a ridiculous statement. Think about it. Margo is a much, MUCH busier fighter than Floyd, he also hits harder (and no I DO NOT THINK Margo could beat Mayweather...so lets leave that alone...)...so if Williams could get off 1000+ vs him, he could just as easily get off 1000+ vs Floyd. There is NOTHING that would make anyone think differently, other than bias.



Oscar and Williams are night and day in terms of styles. Oscar is a plodding, accurate puncher...he basically comes right at you. He has also slowed considerably over the years.

Williams on the other hand is slower than Mayweather, but not by nearly as much as Oscar is (not much at all actually). He is also busier...Stronger...Longer.

Floyd could NOT win this fight. I believe Mayweather can beat Cotto (pretty easily actually), will beat Hatton (again easily), would SCHOOL Cintron, would box circles around Margo and COULD win a close fight with Mosely (tho I think Shane also has some matchup advantages in this one also...)....but vs Williams, I would pick Paul 10 out of 10 times.

Again...he CANNOT win. Which is why this fight will never happen. Floyd might act like a jackass outside of the ring, but he is no dummy.
Fuck me, make it hard, why don't ya? :lol:

First of all, I said Williams was bigger and taller. Just mentioning that Floyd actually has so far enjoyed fighter taller fighters (ala Corrales and N'Dou). The height and reach wouldn't be as much of a problem as people tend to think. Floyd has such quick reflexes, it's not as if he wouldn't be getting in and tagging Williams all night.

Secondly, I wasn't comparing Dela Hoya to Williams AT ALL... And I don't even know where you got that idea from... I mentioned that in the end, Floyd wins an "easy" UD. I was just explaining further that when I say "easy", I mean "easy" in the sense that he won the Dela Hoya fight "easy"... Now most people will agree that the Dela Hoya fight was close, but if you look at Mayweather, never once does he seem like he's going full throttle (hence why I said he looked like he never left second gear)...

That's how I think he'd do Williams, even if the score was 115-113...

Furthermore, power is not what makes counter punches effective and stop your opponents from throwing those same punches (it's merely part of the equation). Floyd is TEN times the counter puncher of Margo, and has TEN times the ability to make Williams question about throwing a punch or not. So yes, I agree with myself when I say Williams would not throw as much punches against Floyd as against Margo.

Every time he throws, he gets "stung" right on the button... Floyd's sharp, and quick, and accurate... That's a REAL counter pucnher.

Finally, no way Floyd fights Williams defensively all night. He very rarely fights defensively all night.

carras
08-22-2007, 12:22 AM
:good

your avatars are the best.

sues2nd
08-22-2007, 12:24 AM
your avatars are the best.

Fab is the KING of avatars...:good

MSTR
08-22-2007, 12:26 AM
Williams - 6'1 reach 82"
Corrales - 5'10 reach 70"
N'Dou - 5'10 reach 75"

Sorry to say bro...but it isnt so much the height advantage as it is the reach....he is a foot longer than Corrales and 7" longer than N'Dou...thats not even close bro. Williams is a HUGE WW...you cant compare the three.



Not really...the stylistic matchup for Mayweather would be dealing with not only the volume of punches Williams throws...but the sheer length of his arms. With his output and reach, he could realistically keep Floyd at the end of his jab all night long....much the way he did to Margo.

Add in the fact that he has a very good, very fast...LONG jab, something that Oscar and other fighters have used well against Floyd...it just adds to how bad of a matchup this truely is.



With a volume puncher such as Williams, it isnt always about landing, but more about continuously throwing. If Floyd is in constant defensive mode (with Williams almost certainly throwing much more than Floyd, who himself will never be confused with Kassim Ouma output wise...:D ), then it plays directly into Williams strengths.

And again, if you look at how ridiculous the reach advantage would be (82" - 72"), Floyd would have a very hard time countering anything.



Not really, Margo countered Williams with some HARD shots and he kept throwing. Floyd doesnt hit nearly as hard as Antonio...I doubt the counters that he does land (as I explained earlier...he would have ALOT of trouble doing so) would have much of a disheartening effect on Williams output.



That is a ridiculous statement. Think about it. Margo is a much, MUCH busier fighter than Floyd, he also hits harder (and no I DO NOT THINK Margo could beat Mayweather...so lets leave that alone...)...so if Williams could get off 1000+ vs him, he could just as easily get off 1000+ vs Floyd. There is NOTHING that would make anyone think differently, other than bias.



Oscar and Williams are night and day in terms of styles. Oscar is a plodding, accurate puncher...he basically comes right at you. He has also slowed considerably over the years.

Williams on the other hand is slower than Mayweather, but not by nearly as much as Oscar is (not much at all actually). He is also busier...Stronger...Longer.

Floyd could NOT win this fight. I believe Mayweather can beat Cotto (pretty easily actually), will beat Hatton (again easily), would SCHOOL Cintron, would box circles around Margo and COULD win a close fight with Mosely (tho I think Shane also has some matchup advantages in this one also...)....but vs Williams, I would pick Paul 10 out of 10 times.

Again...he CANNOT win. Which is why this fight will never happen. Floyd might act like a jackass outside of the ring, but he is no dummy.
Excellent post. I would pick Williams. A stylistic nightmare for Mayweather, who hasn't excelled vs southpaws in the past (Judah and Corley in particular), and will struggle to counter punch from the outside against a Taller guy. The difference (for KO BOXING) is that Corrales and Ndou didn't use their height, and wanted to fight on the inside, where as williams will fight from range, and being a southpaw will be much more difficult to counter. Due to the phenomanel amount of punches he throws it will be VERY difficult to win a decision. Williams UD.

C Money
08-22-2007, 12:47 AM
[quote=sues2nd]Williams - 6'1 reach 82"
Corrales - 5'10 reach 70"
N'Dou - 5'10 reach 75"

Sorry to say bro...but it isnt so much the height advantage as it is the reach....he is a foot longer than Corrales and 7" longer than N'Dou...thats not even close bro. Williams is a HUGE WW...you cant compare the three.



Not really...the stylistic match up for Mayweather would be dealing with not only the volume of punches Williams throws...but the sheer length of his arms. With his output and reach, he could realistically keep Floyd at the end of his jab all night long....much the way he did to Margo.

Add in the fact that he has a very good, very fast...LONG jab, something that Oscar and other fighters have used well against Floyd...it just adds to how bad of a match up this truly is.



With a volume puncher such as Williams, it isn't always about landing, but more about continuously throwing. If Floyd is in constant defensive mode (with Williams almost certainly throwing much more than Floyd, who himself will never be confused with Kassim Ouma output wise...:D ), then it plays directly into Williams strengths.

And again, if you look at how ridiculous the reach advantage would be (82" - 72"), Floyd would have a very hard time countering anything.



That's why Floyd don't know who he is:lol: Also why many Floyd boyz dismiss it as a relevant match up almost IMMEDIATELY. I love hearing the "PBF EASY" shit in this thread. I GOT AN IDEA, LETS SEE FLOYD PROVE THAT IN THE RING VS WILLIAMS!!! Most Floyd fans don't want to see him tested. They prefer to see him use his D and throw just enough punches to beat opponents he should. As long as he keeps that 0 and keeps talking too much shit??? Their in their GLORY DAYZ:lol: :good

Like i always say, IMAGINE THOMAS HEARNS at 47, tomorrow:think

Floyd either retires, or moves to 40 or 54:yep

Williams wont KO floyd, but he will damn sure work him with height, reach, and volume. One of the BIGGEST mistakes made by PBF's opposition, is lack of a consistent and quality jab. When you can position Floyd without getting potshotted on the way in, you're chances of victory are at least doubled, if not tripled. Williams would do just that and THEN outwork Primadonna Boy along the ropes as he lays there and tries to counter one punch at a time vs a much taller, longer, and busier opponent.

Mob
08-22-2007, 12:50 AM
Floyd is an ESTABLISHED all time great,...Williams is a contender to being an elite fighter.

WIlliams has great physical assetts and youth..

Floyd is too good for this guy, even with the size and physical disadvantages.

floyd wins this one in yet another stinking fight.

Floyd Mayweather is this era's Pernell Whitaker just like Sam Peter is to David Tua.

KO Boxing
08-22-2007, 12:52 AM
One of the BIGGEST mistakes made by PBF's opposition, is lack of a consistent and quality jab. When you can position Floyd without getting potshotted on the way in, you're chances of victory are at least doubled, if not tripled.
38 have tried... 38 have failed :deal

(Technically 37, but you know)

MSTR
08-22-2007, 01:11 AM
Floyd is an ESTABLISHED all time great,...Williams is a contender to being an elite fighter.

WIlliams has great physical assetts and youth..

Floyd is too good for this guy, even with the size and physical disadvantages.

floyd wins this one in yet another stinking fight.

Floyd Mayweather is this era's Pernell Whitaker just like Sam Peter is to David Tua.
How do you see floyd winning?

KO Boxing
08-22-2007, 01:19 AM
Floyd is an ESTABLISHED all time great,...Williams is a contender to being an elite fighter.

WIlliams has great physical assetts and youth..

Floyd is too good for this guy, even with the size and physical disadvantages.

floyd wins this one in yet another stinking fight.

Floyd Mayweather is this era's Pernell Whitaker just like Sam Peter is to David Tua.
I don't think people are comparing the greatness of the two. Just that stylistically, Williams is one of the guys in and around Mayweather's weight division that poses the biggest threat.

I mean, in another thread, you have a number of guys saying Cintron beats Williams. Or Williams by Close UD... And Mayweather is head and toes above Cintron

C Money
08-22-2007, 01:45 AM
38 have tried... 38 have failed :deal

(Technically 37, but you know)

Sure while names like SSM, Cotto, and Williams arent on there:good

Floyd wants a lasting legacy?? He'll clean out 47 and take away the speculation.

For that matter, many ATG's who fought at 40 and 47 have made noise at middleweight as well.

MSTR
08-22-2007, 01:49 AM
I don't think people are comparing the greatness of the two. Just that stylistically, Williams is one of the guys in and around Mayweather's weight division that poses the biggest threat.

I mean, in another thread, you have a number of guys saying Cintron beats Williams. Or Williams by Close UD... And Mayweather is head and toes above Cintron
Greatness and ability are 2 very different things. In beating Marg he proved to be a real force in the division. You don't have to be an ATG to beat one. Just a talented fighter with the right style and the right game plan. Look at Vince Phillips v Kostya Tszyu or Douglas vs Tyson for example.

KO Boxing
08-22-2007, 01:50 AM
Sure while names like SSM, Cotto, and Williams arent on there:good

Floyd wants a lasting legacy?? He'll clean out 47 and take away the speculation.

For that matter, many ATG's who fought at 40 and 47 have made noise at middleweight as well.
What about Spadafora? We all know how badly he scared Mayweather from a fight, despite Mayweather fighting Corrales and Castillo TWICE in between.

How many of those ATG's started at 130, by the way?

The closest I can think of is Duran, who started at 135, and is a top 10 atg.

I agree about SSM... That's a name I'd love to see on Floyd's resume (or Cotto, if he beats him, although I have a feeling Mosely comes out on top)

KO Boxing
08-22-2007, 01:59 AM
Greatness and ability are 2 very different things. In beating Marg he proved to be a real force in the division. You don't have to be an ATG to beat one. Just a talented fighter with the right style and the right game plan. Look at Vince Phillips v Kostya Tszyu or Douglas vs Tyson for example.
I agree.

Just pointing out that it's all about styles. Mayweather would handle Cintron, imo, who loses a close UD to Williams (with a shot of KO), while Williams is a stylistic nightmare for Mayweather.

C Money
08-22-2007, 02:08 AM
What about Spadafora? We all know how badly he scared Mayweather from a fight, despite Mayweather fighting Corrales and Castillo TWICE in between.

How many of those ATG's started at 130, by the way?

The closest I can think of is Duran, who started at 135, and is a top 10 atg.

I agree about SSM... That's a name I'd love to see on Floyd's resume (or Cotto, if he beats him, although I have a feeling Mosely comes out on top)


The Spadafora episode WAS AN EXAMPLE of how Floyd has cherry picked and manipulated his way to this point. Think guy's like Duran or Whitaker, would have taken the low road, were they in that situation??:lol: :nono :nono If, Spadafora is to have a fight with PBF?? He has to earn that place again. He had it at 35 and was ever so close to getting his shot, had he NOT:piss it away. Floyd's ridiculous and pathetic handling of that situation is what I exposed, and will stand by.
You can talk the talk, but the facts and timelines SHOW WHAT HAPPENED.

Notice I didnt say Floyd must fight at middleweight?? Though SURELY someone who's better than SRR and SRL could accomplish something, eh??:lol: BTW, DLH started at 130 and tried. Since, PBF fans claim that win over OLD DLH as a super significant avhievement, why cant floyd give it a shot???:huh :huh

The winner of SSM vs Cotto, Paul Williams, and Cintron are all titleholders at 47 and FOR JUST ONCE IN FLOYD"S CAREER?? Proving he is THE MAN in a division without leaving any specualtion IS REQUIRED!! Especially, when he criticizes guy's like RJJ, Hopkins, SRL, etc. and has the audacity to feel he's better than SRR:rofl :rofl :rofl Real ATG's have been the man and fought the top guy's in their respective divisions.

Talk the talk? Walk the WALK!!! You arent the best, greatest, or a lasting legacy UNTIL YOU HAVE:good

bigtime9
08-22-2007, 02:33 AM
Talk the talk? Walk the WALK!!! You arent the best, greatest, or a lasting legacy UNTIL YOU HAVE:good


sort of like spadafors right:deal

JustinD
08-22-2007, 08:37 AM
Williams and not because he is skillfully better than Gayweather. Williams may not be a one-punch KO artist, but he does have enough pop to definitely keep Gayweather off of him. Besides, Gayweather would never come forward looking to engage Williams. Gayweather has beautiful skills to counter you all night, but going forward is a risk that Gayweather will not take. Gayweather will also have a huge disadvantage in reach, which will allow Williams to throw and not worry too much on what is coming back. Williams will simply throw 80-120 punches a night vs Gayweather and beat him on activity alone. Now, if Williams weren't so tall and did not have that huge arm-length advantage than it would be a different story. Anyway, I say Williams by UD or late round KO.

Good post :good

BITCH ASS
08-22-2007, 10:27 AM
Floyd won't ever fight Williams.

Bad match up.

KO byBRIGGS
08-22-2007, 10:30 AM
after watching Willimas last fight I would say toss up and probably one hell of a fight. Williams throws over 100 puncehs per round with good reach this doesnt mean he would win but I think he puts up the best fight of anyone out there at 147. Willams could be the successor to Floyd Mayweather. I definitely would not bet on this fight I think it would go to decision and be very close.

C Money
08-22-2007, 12:53 PM
sort of like spadafors right:deal


Who said he was, PUNK BITCHTIME?????


:lol:


You are the Charmin of ESB.

Executioner
08-22-2007, 01:05 PM
It would be Mayweather-Corrales II..

I see the picks are pretty much even, so were the betting odds for Mayweather-Corrales because people said Corrales was too tall, could jab him all night, hit too hard, ect ect... look what happened to Corrales (who now that I think about it had the same record as Paul does now) and the same thing would happen to Paul Williams if he fought Mayweather

Please just stop posting!

rendog67
08-22-2007, 01:20 PM
i think if they fought 10 times i would take Floyd by decision every time. I really like Williams but he is not in floyds league and he would need much more ferocity in his game than he has to cause Floyd problems.

Pimp C
08-22-2007, 02:05 PM
Williams would give PBF trouble early on but PBF would figure him out and win by UD. BTW Williams' workrate would drop some against PBF due to PBF's movement and his counter-punching ability.

BITCH ASS
08-22-2007, 02:06 PM
:lol: You're the one who thinks shitty ass Andre Berto will KO Floyd. :rofl :rofl :rofl

I like Andre Berto.

He reminds me of me.

Guru_Too_You
08-22-2007, 02:39 PM
Right now Floyd.

By the time the bout would actually be made due to enough demand, I might have to lean towards Williams.

I have long said that Williams offers Floyd the most dangerous combination of size and skills anywhere from 135-154.

platnumpapi
08-22-2007, 02:50 PM
toss up fight i think, but paul attributes plus his skills alone would be very hard for pbf to deal with it.100 punches all angles that are pretty fast and percise with decent power and hes got good stanmia as well.

toss up fight, i could really saw paul beating him.

Ramshall1
08-22-2007, 05:47 PM
Id go with PW to use his size, reach and workrate to win. But get one thing straight, Fraud will never get anywhere near PW.

ko factor
12-10-2007, 11:04 PM
Id go with PW to use his size, reach and workrate to win. But get one thing straight, Fraud will never get anywhere near PW.:good

chimba
12-10-2007, 11:07 PM
I see alot of posts comparing Williams to Hearns therefore hed give Floyd trouble. FYI Williams with all that lenght doesnt fight with that lenght..and hes definitely not even close to Tommy

Floyd UD

igotJUIC3
12-10-2007, 11:22 PM
Floyd hands down.....look.....its not ability even though Floyd has way more.....its BOXING SMARTS and ADAPTABILITY.....the most obvious thing Floyd would do is fight on the inside to null and void that reach a long fighter does hardly any damage while your in close they cant extend their arms.

Secondly PW has nothing to hurt Floyd....he flicks his jab which would have to be his best punch against Floyd...also Floyd turns his shoulder to you and with his reflexes ducks down and as tall as PW is he would have trouble hitting that low...PBF would come up and be all inside PW and we seen what Floyd's infighting and body work is like and PW's D is not great. Floyd would just wear his body down so bad.

Symphenyceo
12-10-2007, 11:43 PM
Floyd hands down.....look.....its not ability even though Floyd has way more.....its BOXING SMARTS and ADAPTABILITY.....the most obvious thing Floyd would do is fight on the inside to null and void that reach a long fighter does hardly any damage while your in close they cant extend their arms.

Secondly PW has nothing to hurt Floyd....he flicks his jab which would have to be his best punch against Floyd...also Floyd turns his shoulder to you and with his reflexes ducks down and as tall as PW is he would have trouble hitting that low...PBF would come up and be all inside PW and we seen what Floyd's infighting and body work is like and PW's D is not great. Floyd would just wear his body down so bad.

:good

BigReg
12-12-2007, 08:24 PM
Williams, it's not that he's necessarily the better fighter, everyone knows Mayweather can't handle southpaws. I know now I'm going how he beat the mighty Sharmba Mitchell.

What left hander has Floyd struggled with?

Fedor Em
12-12-2007, 08:28 PM
Williams gives Floyd more trouble than Cotto would with his height, reach, good jab, very good chin, and great workrate. Williams is very good fighter. I give Floyd the edge cause he is so great but Williams is taking at least 4 rounds and it is going the distance if they fight.

Keihule
12-12-2007, 08:35 PM
Williams UD

puga_ni_nana
12-12-2007, 08:41 PM
i haven't seen much of williams. but if i will base it from his last fight, imo, he will give floyd some trouble because of his height and reach advantage plus his workrate. but because of mayweather's skills, he would still be a slight favorite.

LockDog387
12-12-2007, 08:42 PM
I'd say this is a toss it up. Floyd has handled boxers who were very tall for their size such as Tony Pep, (who was 6'1) Genaro Hernandez, Oscar Delahoya, Diego Coralles. He's done it before but Williams is different from those guys because he's young and naturally bigger then Coralles, Pep, Hernandez and Delahoya. In the fight against Pep (who was a good technically schooled fighter) he bascially made Pep miss on every punch he threw. Can he do that to Williams? I don't think so.

rekcutnevets
12-12-2007, 08:48 PM
Someone argue with MacManJr. or Fab2333, I am seeing way too many of other peoples' avatars in this thread. I miss theirs.

Floyd is too fast for the tall, light hitting Williams.

psychopath
12-12-2007, 08:52 PM
Who wins & why?

Floyd via UD. :yep

. . . same reason why I picked PBF to beat Hatton. Agility, smartness and speed.

JMotrain
12-12-2007, 08:59 PM
Williams, I think his style is all wrong for Floyd. I don't see Floyd figuring out a way to beat Williams, and I think he would give away a lot of the early rounds hoping to be able to slow him down and counter him. Williams will walk through Floyd and never stop throwing. I see him winning a UD 9-3.

Williams isn't Hatton, he is way bigger, has 16' more reach, a good jab (which you need to beat Mayweather), and a good chin.

Paulie
12-12-2007, 09:27 PM
Williams easy...

El Bombasto
12-12-2007, 09:37 PM
Williams UD, Floyd will never take this fight.

Ziggy Montana
12-12-2007, 09:57 PM
Cakewalk for Mayweather