Marcos Villasana

[WhataRock]

This bloke got a bit of a tough break hitting his straps just when guys like Azumah Nelson and Jeff Fenech were at their best.

Does anyone know the details of the first Nelson-Villasana fight and the Esparagoza fight, which were a MD and draw respectively? If he had got the nod in these fights who knows what he could have gone on to do.
Didnt really bag his title till late in his career.

[sweet_scientist]

Haven't seen the Esparagoza fight, but I felt Nelson beat him comfortably in their first encounter. Had Nelson up by 4 points. I had a couple of even rounds, which Villasana might be credited with, but Nelson still wins it on my card.

Much like the first Nelson-Fenech fight, Villasana kept Nelson up against the ropes and was wailing away, but unlike the Fenech-Nelson fight, Villasana was struggling to land clean effective blows on Nelson. Nelson was rolling with a lot of punches and was clearly landing the heavier, cleaner stuff.

[WhataRock]

Cheers for that sweet...whats your overall opinion of Marcos?
How could he have done in the Hamed-MAB-Morales-JMM era?

[sweet_scientist]

Cheers for that sweet...whats your overall opinion of Marcos?
How could he have done in the Hamed-MAB-Morales-JMM era?

Haven't seen all that much of him Rock, just the two Nelson fights and the Fenech fight, but he is extremely tough, takes a hell of a punch and is quite physically strong. I think he'd get outboxed by Hamed, JMM, Morales and MAB, but his physical presence will see him give them pretty close fights I'd say if he is at his best.

[WhataRock]

Yeah I agree...I think he is a little to wide open for a guy like Hamed, couldnt see that fight going any better then the Soto fight for him. To me seems like the kind of bloke that would be on the end of JMM's counters and MAB's combos all night.

I sort of liked his chances at giving Morales a good run seeing how hard Chi and Ayala could push him with such a limited arsenal..But at the same time I doubt he would have enough to overcome Erik in the end.

Just thought it was interesting how he came across two of the best fighters of that era when coming in his peak and that could be the reason why he isnt as well known. He certainly proved his ability by coming back and claiming the title after they had left.

[Russell]

I've seen the Esparagoza fight. Laughable decision. If you could give Esparagoza 4 rounds you'd be being generous.

Marcos stalked him all night, walked through everything he had and had him going late in the fight more then once.

[WhataRock]

Cheers for that Russ...I had a sneaking suspicion that was the case.

Esparragoza could seriously whack but the way Villasana soaked them up against Fenech and Nelson, I couldnt see him being that bothered by even Antonio's shots.

Again...take Fenech and Azumah out of the equation, give him the Esparragoza fight he deserved and history probably would have remembered the little Mexican a little fonder.

[Russell]

Marcos Villasana was the Oliver McCall of his weight class.

Jaime Garza was an absolute terror power wise. Went 40-0 and ended his career with 44 knockouts in 48 wins. Power that knocked guys cold.

Marcos beat the ever loving shit out of him. Floored him with a jab.

It was reminiscent of Shavers/Cobb. Garza was actually hitting Marcos was hard Villasana's entire upper body was snapping backwards like he was some demented human top. He just kept chugging forwards. :lol:

As far as I know Marcos was only ever stopped on cuts, which early on in his career he had a bad tendency to pick up.

Also, Fenech broke both his hands on Villasana's iron cast head. :admin

[flamengo]

Fenech breaking his hands on an opponents head, doesnt suggest the head is 'Iron cast'....

As Fenech said himself.." I have a Rolls-Royce body and Volkswagon hands"

[Bigcat]

I clearly remember him coming to Britain to box the then Wbc Champ Paul Hodkinson in Manchester and stopping Paul badly almost halting his career, then i remember Paul getting revenge on the tough bastard in Ireland just before Villassanas retirement.. he was very rugged to say the least........

[Raging B(_)LL]

Marcos is one fighter who`s name I always make sure to mention in any thread disscussing all-time great chins, this man in a p4p sense ranks right up there. I`ve got 11 fights of his altogether, and in every single one of them I seen this man take some of the most vicious and flush punches right on the noggin by some heavy handed opponents without so much as flinching, the man`s durability was downright inhuman really.

Not the most talented fighter but in terms of ruggedness, durability and punching power he was a tough nut to overcome if you didn`t have the legs or boxing ability to stay away from him or the physical strenght to match him in close and push him onto the backfoot like Fenech did. And I agree that Villasana won that bout against Esparagoza, I had him a winner by four points, too bad he got shafted by the draw verdict as he earned that win.

[Russell]

Fenech breaking his hands on an opponents head, doesnt suggest the head is 'Iron cast'....

As Fenech said himself.." I have a Rolls-Royce body and Volkswagon hands"

Yes, but how many times did he break BOTH his hands beating on someone?

[My2Sense]

Wasn't Esparagoza saved by point deductions in that fight?