Did Evander Holyfield ever duck anyone??

[lefthook31]

I cant think of one situation, where Evander Holyfield was ever perceived to be ducking an opponent....

[Stinky gloves]

He fought almost everybody at HW:
Foreman, Bowe, Lewis, Tyson, Byrd, Ruiz, even Toney.

He definitely is scared of Wlad Klitchko now :admin

[Brighton bomber]

I can't think of a single fighter he ducked. He fought everyone there was to fight.The only time he ever even looked like ducking anyone was Lewis who he could have fought a year earlier than he did. But he was simply holding out for more money, which he got. Holyfield is a true warrior he'd fight anyone even now.

[sues2nd]

Nope...noone, EVER.

[brooklyn1550]

No, he NEVER did...BOTTOM LINE

He fought everybody

[jgarra23]

Evander didn't duck Roy Jones. He & Roy both wanted the fight & just couldn't agree on the payout. This may come as somewhat of a shock but just because a fight doesn't work out doens't mean that anyone was ducked or anyone is ducking.

So the fight didn't work out., So effing what?

Holyfield didn't duck anyone.

[joeboxer]

I think there is a difference between a disagreement in monetary terms and ducking....that from a guy who can't stand Holyfield. But i won't agree he ducked Jones. Clearly he fought way bigger punchers.

[youthmann]

Holyfield not taking 8 million to help his dream of being undisputed again = DUCKING

It is called negotiation mate - not ducking. He expected Don King to offer more. The real deal - don't duck.

That the true (whether it's realistic or not) that Holy believes in him self 100% - he wouldn't duck a unification fight with wlad if he gets the change. Accept it ........... The man is a warrior - deep insight.

[pipe wrenched]

He's "THE REAL DEAL"!!!

[McGrain]

Let's be clear; there's no-one who fought everyone. LaMotta didn't fight Burley.

But Hollyfield is an example of a fighter in the modern era who fought pretty much everyone he was supposed to when he was supposed to. A warrior.

[McGrain]

Burley didn't fight a whole lot of fighters.


Quiet right.

My LaMotta example was more about Jake though, an example of a fighter who took on most guys of his era (including members of the black murderers row).

Archie Moore is another candidate, though it would have been nice if he'd got Sugar.

[lefthook31]

I think there is a difference between a disagreement in monetary terms and ducking....that from a guy who can't stand Holyfield. But i won't agree he ducked Jones. Clearly he fought way bigger punchers.

it would have been a speed problem, not power punching.

[fidds]

No not to my knowledge :huh Would like to of seen a bert cooper rematch though :happy

[2smart4u]

:smoke BRUNO RUDDUCK MORRISON TUA GOLOTA ROY and he had to be forced to fight LL ! HOLY fighting everyone is a MYTH ! Just like him being a great HEAVYWEIGHT is a MYTH !

[fidds]

Bruno was never in a position to fight holy ?


Im a bruno fan and he never even mentions evander in his auto biography lol

[Smokin'Joe100]

holyfield is the epitome of the word 'cojones'. he is deinfitely the REAL DEAL.

this statement is realer than Real Deal Holyfield, now all you hookers and ho's know how i feel. :D

[maximumsg]

He did not fight jones because jones was demanding twice the money that holyfield would have gotten if he took the deal.

[Fab2333]

He fought James Toney instead who had no belt in his first heavyweight fight for far less money. Face it, he ducked Jones.
statement is very true. Even though I dont think he was necessarily scared of RJ, but he definately did take on Toney 4 lesser money. Dont kno, it does look like he might of ducked Roy

[Unchained]

The words Evander, Holyfield, Real Deal, or Warrior, should never be in the same thread as the word ducking.

[papaspank]

You would have to have shit for brains to even suggest Holyfield ducked anyone. Come on you got to be shitting me to even say the word duck in the same sentence with Evander Holyfield. It's insane, you must think Rosey O'Donnell is hot, dude either your worlds upside down or you got to get off the drugs! Dude quit posting garbage, go back to what you do best, peter puffer, Holyfield hater.

Also, to this sites biggest peter puffer, 2dumb4u, your about as good a poster as Kevin Federline is a rapper. Your hate for Holyfield is unmatched. I don't know what your problem is but in the real world Evander Holyfield is one on the GREATEST fighters who ever lived. Now go make yourself feel better and buy youself a penis enlarger, maybe that cut your hate for Holyfield.

[C Money]

Evander's too tough for his own good. He wouldnt duck a freight train, if you put gloves on it, and stuck it on a track, in a ring.

If he beats Ibragimov? I absolutely believe he'll express the desire to fight Wlad:yep :yep He isnt gonna win, but the man has NO FEAR.

[getup]

evander holyfield wouldnt duck kng kong or godzilla...,but ofcourse he ducked RJ..,riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttt!!!!!!

DAN LAW

[papaspank]

:smoke BRUNO RUDDUCK MORRISON TUA GOLOTA ROY and he had to be forced to fight LL ! HOLY fighting everyone is a MYTH ! Just like him being a great HEAVYWEIGHT is a MYTH !



This is what smoking to much crack will do to you.:lol: :rasta :lol:

[Axe]

Did you not read post #3?

Ducking Royboy after facing Lewis, Tyson, and Bowe....ridiculous!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Axe]

This is what smoking to much crack will do to you.:lol: :rasta :lol:

:lol:

He's just a bitter Klitschko nuthugger who used to get pwned every other day here in various "Wladimir vs the greats" threads. :good

[papaspank]

:lol:

He's just a bitter Klitschko nuthugger who used to get pwned every other day here in various "Wladimir vs the greats" threads. :good

You are talking about 2dumb4u, right?

[Axe]

You are talking about 2dumb4u, right?

The one and only. :yep

[papaspank]

What's with that guy? Does he have penis envy against Holyfield or what?

[Bubba]

Holyfield's goal was always to be champ and he was offered a shot against Jones who had the WBA heavy title at the time and Holy declined, so YES he did duck someone. Jones wanted the fight too.

Jones was being offered 24 million and Evander was only going to get 8 million!!!

WTF is that!!!!??? :-(

[2smart4u]

The one and only. :yep:lol: So when did you own me ? And what argument did I lose exactly ? :hi:

[2smart4u]

This is what smoking to much crack will do to you.:lol: :rasta :lol::patsch So your saying HOLY fought these guys ? :deal

[2smart4u]

:lol:

He's just a bitter Klitschko nuthugger who used to get pwned every other day here in various "Wladimir vs the greats" threads. :good:lol: And why would I be bitter when VLAD is clearly the best right now ? oh yes now I remember ! I make fools out of clowns when they are talking about ALL TIME GREAT MYTHS and you think I lost those arguments also ! Your clearly delusional !:deal

[Peter S. A.]

No. he never did. He was a true warrior.

[Zakman]

Let's be clear; there's no-one who fought everyone. LaMotta didn't fight Burley.

But Hollyfield is an example of a fighter in the modern era who fought pretty much everyone he was supposed to when he was supposed to. A warrior.

That's exactly why he's the best HW of his era.:yep

[tays001]

he never ducked anyone. holyfield is a warrior

[ironchamp]

Holyfield not taking 8 million to help his dream of being undisputed again = DUCKING

Agreed.....

[He Hate Me]

he ducked a primed tyson.

[sues2nd]

Did you not read post #3?

Yes I did read it....and again...NO, he never ducked a soul.

[Axe]

:lol: And why would I be bitter when VLAD is clearly the best right now ? oh yes now I remember ! I make fools out of clowns when they are talking about ALL TIME GREAT MYTHS and you think I lost those arguments also ! Your clearly delusional !:deal

Just because you keep babbling on and refuse to see other people's logic doesn't mean you win anything. I never owned you per se (nor argued with you), but I do recall Radar handing out a couple of thrashings in various 'Wlad vs anyone' threads. :yep

[ozziebattler]

[quote=Bubba]Jones was being offered 24 million and Evander was only going to get 8 million!!!


That cant be right..

Holyfield=tyson,bowe,foreman and draw with lewis=8million

Jones jr=JOHN RUIZ?????=24million..:rofl :rofl

Fuck im a jones jr fan but that is a joke right??

[kg0208]

I'm a huge Jones fan.....Holyfield didn't duck Jones. Neither was in their prime at that point, thought Jones was far closer to his than Holyfield was.

[divac]

On the Holyfield-Jones negotiation matter.......Holyfield wanted the Jones match, but it seems to me that Jones did'nt.

I dont know the specifics of the negotiations, but from what I remember, Holyfield was offered 8 mil in which Holyfield was reluctantly going to take.
Holyfield's rightful thinking at the time was that he was a proven PPV top seller, and that he deserved a better cut than what he was getting.
Jones was going to more than triple the amount of money that Holyfield was going to get paid.

In any regards, the deal fell through over something about Don King was going to take 3 million from the 8 million that Holyfield was going to make over a previous dispute with Holyfield about money matters.
So Holyfield told King, if you're taking 3 mil from the top, I'm not fighting Jones for 5 mil......
......and the fight never came about.

Does anybody here no the exact reason why Don King was going to take 3 mil from Holyfield's 8 mil to fight Jones?
The reason alludes me!

......but no, Holyfield never ducked Jones.
Had Jones wanted the fight, he could have spoken up and said, "take 3 mil from the over 20+ mill I'm going to make for the fight to happen.

.....but I think Jones was reluctant to fight and potentially lose to Holyfield who was being looked by many boxing scribes to be near shot!

Jones could have made the fight by giving up 3 mil of his mega purse, but like in so many of his other negotiations vs the likes of Hopkins, Jirov and others, he did'nt have the balls to make it happen.

[He Hate Me]

He also ducked his baby moma's... the dude has like 10 kids with like 7 women.:patsch

[2smart4u]

Just because you keep babbling on and refuse to see other people's logic doesn't mean you win anything. I never owned you per se (nor argued with you), but I do recall Radar handing out a couple of thrashings in various 'Wlad vs anyone' threads. :yep:patsch RADAR never handed me anything ! he made nonsence arguments about all time greats and their competition and I essentally made him look like a fool by stating facts about the issue ! last I checked he never wanted to even ingage me ! just like you dont like to engage me in a real debate about the foolishness that is the ALL TIME GREATS ! I suggest you run along now or youll own me about as much as RADAR did ! And you will look pretty stupid ! :good :yep

[papaspank]

These dumbass' trying to argue Holyfield duck someone is like using the same logic to say Star Jones is hotter than Pamela Anderson. Only a dumbass would make that statement.

[diamondDave]

I remember Evander said that Byrd was the one fighter he didn't want to fight because of his style...but then again Evander fought him anyway, so you can't really say he ducked him.

Evander can never be accused of being chicken, its part of what keeps him going even when its not for his own good.

[SevenSamurai]

Roy Jones:good


He was shit scared of Roy and would not fight him. Roy would have made him look like the slow dinosaur that he is, if he had fought Roy after the Ruiz fight.

[MacManJr.]

I cant think of one situation, where Evander Holyfield was ever perceived to be ducking an opponent....His Baby Mamas

[Thread Stealer]

Holyfield ducked the aisle in the supermarket that sells condoms.

[Thread Stealer]

he ducked a primed tyson.

Hmm....Tyson was at his peak in 1988, when Holyfield moved up from cruiserweight to heavyweight. Holyfield works his way up the heavyweight ranks in the next couple years or so. Holyfield was ringside in Tokyo in Feb 1990 when Tyson lost to Douglas, trying to mask his dissapointment that he wouldn't fight Tyson, since the fight between the 2 was set to occur after Tyson got thru Douglas. Holyfield beats Douglas for the title, defends against Foreman, then signs to fight Tyson in Nov 1991. Tyson pulls out with an injury.

[divac]

2% of this post is true, and that 2% is when he said Holyfield was offered 8.

I'm fairly certain that Don King was going to take about 3mil off the top of Holyfields fight purse to fight Jones........
......but I also found an old article that points to Holyfield signing to fight James Toney, and it has a mention of the Holyfield-Jones negotiations breaking off because Holyfield refused to let Don King have options on his next three fights if he were to beat Jones.
Apparently Holyfield did'nt want to get tied down with Don King and passed on the Roy Jones fight.

Here's the link.......
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[lefthook31]

Its true, Holyfield wanted away from King just as most fighters do once they start counting their money and finding it missing.